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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[ES 148]

Other key findings included a rise in binge drinking among women, especially younger ones.

Come on can't a girl drink her weekly bepis in peace

 

[Lydia of Whiterun]

Some of them might be missing out. Being married is kind of awesome. Two heads are generally better than one.

 

[drtoboggan]

Some of them might be missing out. Being married is kind of awesome. Two heads are generally better than one.

No, getting head from two is better than one.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

I'm surprised nobody's made a loicense joke yet.

EDIT: Actually, seriously, speaking as a Britbong, I wouldn't marry most British women. The only women I've met in the last 12 months who I might want to engage in a sexual relationship with of any type, I work with, and fucking your work colleagues is generally considered a Bad Idea.

 

[Lydia of Whiterun]

No, getting head from two is better than one.

I've always been envious of the ambidextrous.

 

[drtoboggan]

I've always been envious of the ambidextrous.

I'd give my right hand to be ambidextrous.

 

[Splendid]

more than half of British women over the age of 16 are unmarried.

Am I the only one who's worried that they counted from 16 instead of 18? I don't know what the age of consent in the UK is, but that's still awfully young.

 

[Spelling Bee]

This has been par for the course in most western nations for quite some time now, Fatassland included:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_the_United_States

According to the 2008-2010 American Community Survey 3-Year Estimates, 51.5% of males and 47.7% of females over the age of 15 were married.

Remember - this was measured nearly ten years ago. Who knows how much lower it could be now?

Pretty islamic of them to start measuring married women from age 16.

Am I the only one who's worried that they counted from 16 instead of 18? I don't know what the age of consent in the UK is, but that's still awfully young.

Yeah, about that...

 

[Mr. A. L. Mao]

I mean if someone can just divorce you when someone "better" comes along it's no surprise British women aren't getting married.

It's vice versa. Britain doesn't have no-fault divorce, so marriage carries a risk of being stuck with a diaper-shitting pony-diddling genderspecial for life. The valid reasons for divorce are
- infidelity
- "unreasonable behavior", which trooning out no longer is
- desertion
- living apart for 5 years, which might not be possible for financial reasons, especially if the unemployable spouse claims half your income.

Even with these restrictions in place, women are more likely to initiate divorce proceedings.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/rel...-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men.html

Whose fault is divorce? The cold statistical answer is: women.

Before the hate-mail barrage begins, let’s clarify that rather bald statement (and yes, I was partly just trying to get your attention). It’s undeniable that women request the great majority of divorces in the UK. The Office of National Statistics’ (ONS) most recent number crunch reveals that in 2011, the woman was the party granted (therefore initiating) the divorce in 66% of cases that year. It used to be an even higher share: 69% in 2001, and a whopping 72% at the start of the 1990s.

So what are the factors driving that female choice to divorce? The popular misconception is that it’s all down to adulterous men and their wandering penises. But you’d be wrong. Those same ONS stats break down the reasons for divorce, since there are only five legal justifications for ending marriage under UK law: adultery, unreasonable behavior, desertion, or separation (either with or without the consent of the spouse). Men and women are practically equal offenders in the infidelity stakes. In fact, slightly more men claim to have been cuckolded in court (15% of male-initiated divorces) than women (14%).

I’m not pretending for a moment that men are blameless. Those same ONS stats tell us that over half of female-granted divorces are down to their other half’s unreasonable behavior, which can be anything from unchecked boozing, physical abuse, wanton gambling, or that garden-variety mental cruelty you probably saw traces of at your last dinner party. Thank God women are ending those relationships.

On the other hand, it’s possible that women are more likely to initiate divorce than men because in the divorce court, especially where children are involved, the odds are in the female’s favour. Married men who get divorced are generally afraid of losing their kids, with good reason: over 80% of children of separated parents live exclusively or mainly with their mother. Men, often the higher earners, fear the crippling costs of a split. Women raising children and without much income can use taxpayer funds (through Legal Aid – for example) to fight a divorce, only paying the Crown back if they get a sufficiently large settlement. Not to sound crude, but this is like going to the Divorce Casino and playing with the house’s cash.

The UK’s divorce courts are so notorious for their supposed “wife-friendly” atmosphere that many men believe they would get a fairer hearing if their divorce proceedings were carried out elsewhere in the EU. . British courts can award ex-wives maintenance for life, while some European jurisdictions frequently limit post-marital support to only a handful of years. The potential lifetime supply of maintenance payments may make the stress and misery of divorce a high-reward gamble for British wives at the end of their tether.

It's bizarre to me that anyone in the current year thinks men are divorcing their wives to bang hot secretaries while their ex-wife and children starve. Maybe billionaires and celebrities can get away with it, but most other men will be taken to the cleaners.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

The people in the car he hit included a mum and baby.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/ne...lMTK00aSwO3HgyoBaTRoM5F_KvTMqh8j9KJ33TLzq3-Gs

"Prince Philip reportedly cried "my legs, my legs" after the horror car crash near Sandringham Estate yesterday.
There was also a baby in the Kia, according to witness Roy Warne, 75, who told The Sun that the Land Rover "came across the A149 like a somersault. It was turning on its side over and over".
He added: "It was frightening to see a powerful car rolling like that.
"I rushed to the other car - there was smoke coming out as if it may explode.
"There was a baby in the back seat screaming.""

my legs, my legs, lick my Landy and my treads

 

[Keystone]

I would venture that many of these people had no core values and sought no core values in their mates.

Pleasure and attraction are necessary for cathexis but you can’t build a relationship on that alone.
M. Scott Peck wrote about how our fixations on romantic love, the hot and sexy time parts, are damaging our experience and expectations of what happens when you must, inevitably, move on from that.

Never would've thought American Pie would actually be insightful on this topic:

I can't rightly blame Bong boys for not wanting to get hitched though. How does that one meme go?
"What you want, what you'll settle for, and what you get."

What British men want are Page 3 girls
What British men will settle for is a normal "lass next door over" type
What British men will get is @LagoonaBlue

 

[Stoneheart]

The people in the car he hit included a mum and baby.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/ne...lMTK00aSwO3HgyoBaTRoM5F_KvTMqh8j9KJ33TLzq3-Gs

"Prince Philip reportedly cried "my legs, my legs" after the horror car crash near Sandringham Estate yesterday.
There was also a baby in the Kia, according to witness Roy Warne, 75, who told The Sun that the Land Rover "came across the A149 like a somersault. It was turning on its side over and over".
He added: "It was frightening to see a powerful car rolling like that.
"I rushed to the other car - there was smoke coming out as if it may explode.
"There was a baby in the back seat screaming.""

my legs, my legs, lick my Landy and my treads

They were just peasants...

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

Alien lizard people are hard to kill. Maybe not use a KIa next time, Mr. Icke

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

Does he not have a chauffeur or a personal driver or anything? He's married to the queen, it's not like if he gave up driving he'd have to rely on the bus. There's enough staff working for the royals doing really stupid shit like filling the bath to a specific depth and making special food for the corgis, you'd think one of them could give him a lift.

Quite the opposite. A lot of people think Liz will be about forever. Hell the government are putting plans in place for the aftermath it's that bad.

The good news is Charles is a big fan of homeopathy, so he's probably going to get a fairly treatable illness and die trying to cure it with herbal tea and crystals long before he gets to be king.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

The UK should adopt the Russian model of royalty management.

 

[Orkeosaurus]

Does he not have a chauffeur or a personal driver or anything? He's married to the queen, it's not like if he gave up driving he'd have to rely on the bus.

He likes being independent and puts off a down to earth persona. I recall reading that he once asked why he couldn't just have what the servants were eating because the meal reminded him of his navy days.

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm's Ghost]

Am I the only one who's worried that they counted from 16 instead of 18? I don't know what the age of consent in the UK is, but that's still awfully young.

16 year old is the age of consent, and they can get married at that age with special permission from parents.
I think the reason it's included in the study is the fact that, that is the age that you either go into college (highschool) or leave school completely.

Most working class girls who don't go into further education, usually have two choices, go into a depressed labor market depending on the region and work their way up in a job, or get knocked up at that point because it is a way to secure a nice flat and more benefits. Families are always prioritized in terms of social welfare and housing.

 

[Ali della Fenice]

There really doesn't seem to be any real benefits today to be married by a court. Waste of time, effort and money in the long run. A lot of younger adults probably dealt with their parents divorce and just don't even want to deal with that again. I saw how my parents dealt with having me and I have no intent to have children because of that.

The past is not equal to the future. If you've done work on yourself and are able to choose a man who has his shit together, that shit wont happen to you.

every single person things HIS chosen partner is 'the right one' and will of course never leave him. around half of them turn out to be wrong later down the line.
"dude just pick a good one lmao" simply isn't good enough when you consider the sheer magnitude of the problem.

Thats why you shouldnt marry at least until you've been together for a few years and lived under the same roof for at least 2.

I mean if someone can just divorce you when someone "better" comes along it's no surprise British women aren't getting married. Imagine spending years of your life being a home-maker and taking care of the kids and then finding out your husband is fucking the secretary at his job. And he actually plans on divorcing you for her. That's not what marriage is about. If marriage laws were a bit more restricted I imagine a guy like that wouldn't get married at all(because he wouldn't be able to divorce her whenever he wanted to) and marriage would just be between people that are actually capable of making it work out(and are prob a bit on the religious side).

Funny you make that example, because it is usually men who are getting dumped for someone better or because theyve become complacent and their spouses are unhappy.

 

[melty]

I don't really see any purpose to being married, and i'm a woman.
The biggest benefit I could see would be taking half of my husband's stuff in a divorce, but I don't... really want to do that. What a shit way to get money.
It's also possible I make more money in the future and that would get taken, it's not unlikely.
We would probably sign a pre nup, I don't really care. But I wonder what the point of getting married in the first place is.
We've looked into tax benefits and various pros and cons.
If we moved to a different country we would consider it for visa purposes.
Weddings are a waste of money.
I'm not religious, don't care about that. I don't even like my family, spending a bunch of money to have them all in one place to "celebrate" sounds like a nightmare.

Sometimes I wonder about people judging me but then I remember most people who are married don't have as great a relationship as I do (10+ years) so their opinions are irrelevant.

Another thing is once you get married you get the much more obnoxious "when are you going to have kids?". If you aren't married people expect you to do that step first so they ask that instead, which is still annoying, but not as much.

My mom tried to explain to me that when you get married, "things just change. You become closer. I can't explain it."
She and my dad have a terrible relationship so there's another opinion to discard.

 

[Swinecake]

This article is from 2001, you silly sods.