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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[HomeAloneTwo]

There really doesn't seem to be any real benefits today to be married by a court. Waste of time, effort and money in the long run. A lot of younger adults probably dealt with their parents divorce and just don't even want to deal with that again. I saw how my parents dealt with having me and I have no intent to have children because of that.

 

[The Flawless Gazelles]

so most british females are incels?

 

[Pargon]

Cue Dynastia kicking down the door to scream about how the women of the Empire are horsewhipped and wholly unsatisfying.

 

[Damocles_Sword]

so most british females are incels?

Nah, they all have multiple boyfriends, There's Allah Bin Mohammed Al Muhammed, his 14 "cousins", and PC Walker over there.

 

[xX_rAcE_wAr_420_Xx]

most importantly, marriage simply doesn't fullfil its purpose anymore.
the main point of it is security - security that your husband won't just dump you for a younger girl one day and leave you with nothing, security that your wife won't just run off with her boss and leave you with nothing, security that you will always have your spouse to depend on no matter what happens. that's what marriage is supposed to provide, that's the foundation you need to build a stable family and future.

but a "marriage" that can be broken at will without consequences, and that can be opted out at any time for any reason or for no reason at all? that is just a worthless piece of paper. it provides no more security or commitment than a regular no-strings-attached relationship, so what is the point of it all?

At the risk of vindicating the MGTOW crowd, this is one point where by the numbers they seem kinda right. A lot of the cultural significance of marriage is gone (at least when compared to just 'being in a long-term relationship'), fewer people are religious, and divorce pretty much ruins years of your life, emotionally and financially. As much fun as it is to shit on millenials for being eternal children, it doesn't make a lot of sense to legally bind yourself to someone when they can decide, years down the line, to divorce you just because they want to get filled with black cock, and they also get to take half your shit.

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm's Ghost]

At the risk of vindicating the MGTOW crowd, this is one point where by the numbers they seem kinda right. A lot of the cultural significance of marriage is gone (at least when compared to just 'being in a long-term relationship'), fewer people are religious, and divorce pretty much ruins years of your life, emotionally and financially. As much fun as it is to shit on millenials for being eternal children, it doesn't make a lot of sense to legally bind yourself to someone when they can decide, years down the line, to divorce you just because they want to get filled with black cock, and they also get to take half your shit.

Comes down to who you choose as a partner. Nothing in life is guaranteed of course, but if you marry well and marry the right one, you substantially reduce your risks of her leaving you, or you leaving her.

 

[The Flawless Gazelles]

Nah, they all have multiple boyfriends, There's Allah Bin Mohammed Al Muhammed, his 14 "cousins", and PC Walker over there.

Operation Sea Lion shall commence again?

 

[Duke Nukem]

every single person things HIS chosen partner is 'the right one' and will of course never leave him. around half of them turn out to be wrong later down the line.
"dude just pick a good one lmao" simply isn't good enough when you consider the sheer magnitude of the problem.

My theory is that humans are not meant to be monogamous, and it's just some bullshit pushed on society to ensure that alpha males don't hog the mates like they do in nature. Most males are, in a Darwinist sense, not necessary for the species to survive, so who cares about them.

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm's Ghost]

every single person things HIS chosen partner is 'the right one' and will of course never leave him. around half of them turn out to be wrong later down the line.
"dude just pick a good one lmao" simply isn't good enough when you consider the sheer magnitude of the problem.

I would disagree with that statement, purely for the fact that I've never viewed a single relationship in my life by that metric, ever. Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I've always been very particular with dating, and would go into a relationship with the optimistic view that this is a person I could spend my life with potentially, but I've never been absolutist about it.

Again it comes down to how much one can separate what is sensible versus what is governed by emotions. There are always choices, then better choices, success in not guaranteed, but again if your prudent with your decision making, then you can find someone who maximizes your chances of familial happiness.

 

[GentlemanFaggot]

I can't blame people for not wanting to marry British women.

 

[Oxidative Phosphorylation]

I like how he's still driving at 97.

My brain refused to comprehend that he could be 97 and read that as 9' 7'' which makes even less sense. I think most of England/the UK are pretty surprised he and the Queen are still alive.

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm's Ghost]

My theory is that humans are not meant to be monogamous, and it's just some bullshit pushed on society to ensure that alpha males don't hog the mates like they do in nature. Most males are, in a Darwinist sense, not necessary for the species to survive, so who cares about them.

We're not meant to be monogamous in a biological sense, in the purest form of it, men are more advantageous when it comes to sex with strangers, where as women traditionally had pregnancy as a side effect of promiscuity.
The earlier human civilizations practiced polygamy for this reason, as those who could afford to have the highest number of offspring often could keep more than one mate. Hence family in that sense is closer to what Muslims have with larger extended families.

The major shift came with the advent of Christianity in the west, which preferred monogamy as a practice, which led to a change in structures which created the nuclear family.

that approach is fine when all you want is a little fun.
but again, to build a stable family and future, you need a more secure foundation than that. that's what marriage was supposed to provide, but doesn't anymore.

I'm failing to see your thinking here. Are you referring to the fact that marriage no longer forms the basis of a social contract, which traditionally it was frowned upon breaking, or the fact that better mate selection provides a good basis for successful long term relationships?

 

[CWCissey]

My brain refused to comprehend that he could be 97 and read that as 9' 7'' which makes even less sense. I think most of England/the UK are pretty surprised he and the Queen are still alive.

Quite the opposite. A lot of people think Liz will be about forever. Hell the government are putting plans in place for the aftermath it's that bad.

 

[MasterDisaster]

At the risk of vindicating the MGTOW crowd, this is one point where by the numbers they seem kinda right. A lot of the cultural significance of marriage is gone (at least when compared to just 'being in a long-term relationship'), fewer people are religious, and divorce pretty much ruins years of your life, emotionally and financially. As much fun as it is to shit on millenials for being eternal children, it doesn't make a lot of sense to legally bind yourself to someone when they can decide, years down the line, to divorce you just because they want to get filled with black cock, and they also get to take half your shit.

Honestly this is extremely well written and phenomenal post. It really hits all the points I would have made myself. Kudos.

 

[Sable]

They've both slowed down a lot and let Charles pick up some of the slack.

Note that I said some.

The Queen's aware of pretty much everything that goes on be it governmental or espionage/ foreign stuff, though she's only comparatively recently swapped to modern technology instead of just...reading everything in physical paper reports.

 

[Buer]

I mean if someone can just divorce you when someone "better" comes along it's no surprise British women aren't getting married. Imagine spending years of your life being a home-maker and taking care of the kids and then finding out your husband is fucking the secretary at his job. And he actually plans on divorcing you for her. That's not what marriage is about. If marriage laws were a bit more restricted I imagine a guy like that wouldn't get married at all(because he wouldn't be able to divorce her whenever he wanted to) and marriage would just be between people that are actually capable of making it work out(and are prob a bit on the religious side).

 

[repentance]

Lots of loaded language in that report.

 

[Safir]

I mean if someone can just divorce you when someone "better" comes along it's no surprise British women aren't getting married. Imagine spending years of your life being a home-maker and taking care of the kids and then finding out your husband is fucking the secretary at his job. And he actually plans on divorcing you for her. That's not what marriage is about. If marriage laws were a bit more restricted I imagine a guy like that wouldn't get married at all(because he wouldn't be able to divorce her whenever he wanted to) and marriage would just be between people that are actually capable of making it work out(and are prob a bit on the religious side).

It's vice versa. Britain doesn't have no-fault divorce, so marriage carries a risk of being stuck with a diaper-shitting pony-diddling genderspecial for life. The valid reasons for divorce are
- infidelity
- "unreasonable behavior", which trooning out no longer is
- desertion
- living apart for 5 years, which might not be possible for financial reasons, especially if the unemployable spouse claims half your income.

 

[Red Hood]

Time to hop on over to Limeyland and find me a sugar mama Baroness of something or other!

 

[NN 401]

every single person things HIS chosen partner is 'the right one' and will of course never leave him. around half of them turn out to be wrong later down the line.
"dude just pick a good one lmao" simply isn't good enough when you consider the sheer magnitude of the problem.

I would venture that many of these people had no core values and sought no core values in their mates.

Pleasure and attraction are necessary for cathexis but you can’t build a relationship on that alone.
M. Scott Peck wrote about how our fixations on romantic love, the hot and sexy time parts, are damaging our experience and expectations of what happens when you must, inevitably, move on from that.