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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Can Mogg run for leadership? As far as I know, the old prohibition against a Catholic Prime Minister still stands. Even Blair had to wait before he left office to finally convert.

Long outdated, but seeing as the PM is the one who selects Bishops of the Church of England for the Queen to approve; I'm sure Thatcher converted from Methodism because she had to at least claim to profess Anglicanism.
 
id say either Mogg or Johnson are planning for leadership.

also where the hell is the Farage in all of this? the pub?

He's usually on LBC too.

There's to be a confidence vote tomorrow in the government. It's unlikely May will lose it, but the government also has three days to come up with Plan B to present to Parliament.

Tories are still six points ahead of Labour, so the chances of them losing a GE is slim to none too.

Any 2nd Referendum which has "remain" on the ballot paper would be the biggest sham and likely to cause a dramatic voting shift in the wider British Public. The constant, tone deaf creaking you can see and hear (including the speaker who went rogue last week) is a sign that an alignment is coming. The last one was the rise of Labour from 4th position to leading a government in just 8 years.

Tory Party itself has supposedly sought candidates for the European Parliament, meaning they're ready for the 2019 elections we aren't supposed to be partaking in. Which means the chances of New-Kip rising with Farage's followers being ultra-high.
 
He was on BBC2 calling for a 2nd ref.

What?

Fucking what?

Tories are still six points ahead of Labour, so the chances of them losing a GE is slim to none too.

They were 20 points ahead in 2017 but flushed their majority. May's lot seem to have perfected the art of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
Same place Cameron is. At home, hiding in his shed, trying to pretend none of this shit is their fault.
Didn’t he buy citizenship in Monaco or some shit? Or was he trying for Germany, I can’t remember.

All the rats wanting to leave the ship. At the end of the day the UK should have just said enough pols, Indians, pakis etc. we’re lowering our immigration numbers and staying in the EU.

That’s probably appease most everyone.
 
It's going to be interesting to see how the Tories will vote tomorrow now that their hands are being forced - and either way it's going to hit them hard.

Corbyn was right to hold off the motion of no confidence until this evening.
 
Tory Party itself has supposedly sought candidates for the European Parliament, meaning they're ready for the 2019 elections we aren't supposed to be partaking in. Which means the chances of New-Kip rising with Farage's followers being ultra-high.

We didn't really "partake" when we were in the EU. What was the turnout, ~30?
 
Didn’t he buy citizenship in Monaco or some shit? Or was he trying for Germany, I can’t remember.

All the rats wanting to leave the ship. At the end of the day the UK should have just said enough pols, Indians, pakis etc. we’re lowering our immigration numbers and staying in the EU.

That’s probably appease most everyone.

To be fair to the EU, Migrant Crisis aside, they're not to thank for Commonwealth immigration. That's just the chickens from the Empire coming back to roost, price of handing out all those passports during WWI. Couldn't stop laughing when I read crisis articles from Poland about how there's Ghost villages and nobody around to fill jobs.

EU can't allow a limit on free movement though, it's literally their hill to die on. Switzerland's no residency arrangement in Schegen already winds enough of the continentals up.
 
Prediction: govt survives vote of no confidence tomorrow.

This leaves us with an opposition who can't bring down the government, and a government who can't pass what at this point is the only thing in the legislative timetable. Same deadlock we are in now, but with the only negotiated withdrawal agreement now completely off the table.

No deal by default on 29 March. Every party blames every other party plus a chunk of their own party for the outcome for the next twenty years. Turnout in elections hits 20% and stays there for a generation.
 
They were 20 points ahead in 2017 but flushed their majority. May's lot seem to have perfected the art of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

The Tory party won't give May another GE chance. Her campaign in 2017 was so shit it let Corbyn perform as well as he did.

If they replace May with anyone reasonably normal, dull even, we'll have another Tory government, and my guess is another Scottish indyref, and the break up of the UK.
 
Prediction: govt survives vote of no confidence tomorrow.

This leaves us with an opposition who can't bring down the government, and a government who can't pass what at this point is the only thing in the legislative timetable. Same deadlock we are in now, but with the only negotiated withdrawal agreement now completely off the table.

No deal by default on 29 March. Every party blames every other party plus a chunk of their own party for the outcome for the next twenty years. Turnout in elections hits 20% and stays there for a generation.

We then, most likely, find out that "crashing out without a deal" was all much ado about nothing. Yes, there'll probably be some short term unpleasantness but that's as much due to our failure to properly prepare for no deal as anything else. The scare stories about running out of Mars Bars or people collapsing and dying in the streets due to lack of medication are most likely just that. My old man works in the pharmaceutical industry and I asked him if there was any truth about "crashing out without a deal" leading to medication shortages. He replied that since medications are tariff-exempt under WTO, the only thing they needed to put in place to buy precursor chemicals or materials from the EU or sell the finished product to the EU was to have someone actually within the EU signing off on their compliance. Since they are all already compliant, the needed preparations boiled down to his company renting an office in Amsterdam and putting a couple of guys in it to handle all those sign-offs.

Possibly the most exceptional Project Fear story to date is that we'll run out of clean water because water purification chemicals are imported from the EU and can't be stockpiled. I was informed that things like sodium hexafluorosilicate, calcium hydroxide, sodium fluoride, and suchlike will run out. Bollox, said I. These are all fairly simple inorganic salts. You can make them from rocks and sand. CaOH can be made in your kitchen by heating chalk over a gas burner and dunking the resulting material in water. NaF and Na2SiF6 can be synthesised from common minerals; it's a bit trickier than CaOH because fluorine is evil shit but not difficult.
 
The Tories created this mess, but Labour aren't helping by cynically playing party politics when the issue demands reconciliation. Labour frontbenchers are constantly reminding us that a 'no deal' Brexit would be the worst case scenario for the UK (it's also their official position), yet they are working tirelessly to ensure that becomes a reality by refusing to back May in what is clearly going to be the final deal before the exit deadline. It's really obvious that they care more about hurting Tory poll numbers than they do about the fate of the country.
 
We then, most likely, find out that "crashing out without a deal" was all much ado about nothing. (snipped)

I hope no deal is a festival of rioting, looting, shitshowery, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria. Because the lulz will be epic. People genuinely voted for disruptive change, so let's honour the vote and have as much disruption as possible. This is the Farms after all. And I have a plastic paddy passport, so I can bail if Waitrose run out of organic avocados too often for my liking.
 
I think the Irish backstop is the most retarded thing.

Ireland don't want it, we don't want it. It's purely an EU thing to cause fear.

Fuck off Brussels.
 
We then, most likely, find out that "crashing out without a deal" was all much ado about nothing. Yes, there'll probably be some short term unpleasantness but that's as much due to our failure to properly prepare for no deal as anything else. The scare stories about running out of Mars Bars or people collapsing and dying in the streets due to lack of medication are most likely just that. My old man works in the pharmaceutical industry and I asked him if there was any truth about "crashing out without a deal" leading to medication shortages. He replied that since medications are tariff-exempt under WTO, the only thing they needed to put in place to buy precursor chemicals or materials from the EU or sell the finished product to the EU was to have someone actually within the EU signing off on their compliance. Since they are all already compliant, the needed preparations boiled down to his company renting an office in Amsterdam and putting a couple of guys in it to handle all those sign-offs.

Possibly the most exceptional Project Fear story to date is that we'll run out of clean water because water purification chemicals are imported from the EU and can't be stockpiled. I was informed that things like sodium hexafluorosilicate, calcium hydroxide, sodium fluoride, and suchlike will run out. Bollox, said I. These are all fairly simple inorganic salts. You can make them from rocks and sand. CaOH can be made in your kitchen by heating chalk over a gas burner and dunking the resulting material in water. NaF and Na2SiF6 can be synthesised from common minerals; it's a bit trickier than CaOH because fluorine is evil shit but not difficult.


Yeah I don't see much of an issue happening the thing is in the chaos people looking for the next big thing rise up and fill gaps, look at the fear that surrounded Carillion's collapse that was going to cause the UK to implode apparently and then pretty much nothing because the big company collapsed and smaller ones looking for a piece of the pie took their place.

Hell with all the tears about Dover how about making some new ports further up the country we were a trading country once why not do it again? We can become the place other countries and companies want to import to and then we export to the EU or some other shit. The only way anything bad happens is for everyone to do nothing and just let it happen in fear.

EDIT: Oh and hey the North needs jobs and we need new ways to provide what we need but with less impact on the environment how about jobs that do that up there rather than sending ewaste, plastic and shit of to china and india but do it better because I know this fucking country can when it stops being apathetic because everyone just passes the buck until it gets to the mysterious EU machine and then disappears out of sight and mind.
 
The British are subhumans who can't understand democracy unless an orphan is singing about it or some shit.
 
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Yup, it's exactly what hardcore leave voters called ages ago. The deal was a precursor to another attempt to reverse the decision. These cunts are looking to reverse it, no doubt saying "look at what a fucking shit show this deal process has been, it has completely fucked our party's chances of ever getting elected for the next 20 years, we fucked it so badly that the old commie is making his move for a vote of no confidence in the government, therefore let's reverse the decision."

I am so glad I left that complete shit hole last year.
 
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