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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Brexit means Brexit. Fuck voting again, people knew what they wanted the first time. May needs to get the shit done or get the out of the way so someone with the gumption can steady the ship through these rough times instead of heading back to a treasonous and treacherous port.
 
The Gay Banana said:
As shit as it may be, a second referendum is probably needed at this point. And also for May to do one.
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The problem with that is who gets to decide that things are so fucked, a 2nd vote is required? You? A group of politicians? Who gets to draw the "fucked" line? As an American I can only imagine the shitstorm if someone was like "Yeah, this presidential election turned out real messy. We gotta redo the whole thing."

Recounting existing data is one thing, but starting all over again is a surefire way to fuck stuff up even more.
 
Forever Sunrise said:
I don't think you fully understand my point; it wasn't that the referendum was called, it was the fact that it was called in bad faith. This is the most ridiculous thing that I see all the time. People will, in one breath, insist that the government must be held to task and called to fulfill their obligations to the people. Then in the next breath they start complaining about how incapable and useless said government is at doing that very thing.

Here's what I'm getting at; the referendum was a bad call. Not because it was about leaving the EU, but because it was the worst possible way to leave the EU. People didn't vote for it because they saw it as a strong, organised effort to fulfill their wishes of a UK free and prosperous, they voted for it because they saw it as a shortcut to forcing a fundamentally uncooperative administration into a particular course of action. Thus, you don't get any of the benefits a progressive movement with a strong track record of voter support, but you instead get all the negatives of a movement that was going in the exact opposite direction being forced by a 'gotcha' to act against what it sees as its own best interests. Instead of voting for it, the best course of action would've been to abstain, and then use the democratic process to push for an EU referendum that had a strong core of supporters with a unified goal and plan of action ahead of time. But no, people didn't want that. They wanted a quick fix and to walk home from the voting booth with the smug feeling of sticking it to all those incompetent fools who totally will never expect this outcome.
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What on earth are you on about? Presented with a referendum on the question we wanted, and which was a manifesto promise of the party winning the preceding general election, we should abstain and push for..."an EU referendum with a strong core of supporters"??

Mate, we had enough to win this one! You're talking cobblers.
 
So as a basic timeline, since 55 BC, the Brits have managed to kick the Romans(over a few hundred years), Saxons (well just basically fucked them until they became Brits), Vikings, French, Catholic Church, Dutch, Spain, told France and Napoleon to fuck off again, and held Germany at bay and kicked them back to Berlin. Mind you, over a course of over 2000 years here, Britain has fought off invasions of many kinds, but still got conquered through paper work.

Many times that island has stood up and fended off despots, kings and churches. The Brit's stout fighting spirit was brought down and conquered by paperwork. Which now has laws being dictated to them by non elected officials in an empire. The EU Empire, an Empire is what it is, and people think after all these years its better to remain or take a deal with them instead of saying "no, fuck off".

The shit is already going downhill, people in other nations are starting to realize they were bamboozled by this EU and they want out as well. The sooner everyone gets out the better, the only reason this hasn't evolved to war as one country tries to impose their will over another is because the only real standing army there with numbers is the US to back up the NATO treaty, to still dissuade the Russians.

Whether through war, or paperwork a united Europe has and will always be a bad idea. It may last 50 years, it may last 500 years, but eventually people are going to say enough of this shit and speak up, as they already have. To remain makes those politicians foolish, those people foolish and the U will never stand for Utopia.
 
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BigRuler said:
how do you think this would work out?
if it results in leave again, then nothing changes about the situation.
if it results in remain, then what? now you have two conflicting referendum results, and no matter how you proceed from there, one side will be EXTREMELY pissed off and feel cheated and scammed to the highest degree.
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The only way I feel it works is if there's a deal on the table that parliament will put through and remain as options I guess. That's the only way i personally see the deadlock being broken.
 
CWCissey said:
432 reject-202 accept

Worst government defeat in modern times

lol get fukt.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46885828
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Well that was expected, let's be fair. The real fun starts now. All bets are off. Mogg and the ERG are going to push to go ahead and "crash out without a deal" on 29 March 2019; Corbyn is going to flop about like a beached whale because he lacks the courage of his convictions to nail his colours to the Brexiteer mast even though he's been severely Eurosceptic since the 1980s and used to criticise it as a ploy by the ruling classes to do over the working classes and he mustn't upset Chuka Umunna or Keir Starmer; the Lib Dems will bounce and squeak for a People's Vote; and Sarah Wollaston and John Bercow are likely to try the time honoured tactic of bending the rules to ensure Article 50 is extended indefinitely.

Brexit: The Ride Never Ends.
 
Ginger Piglet said:
Mogg and the ERG are going to push to go ahead and "crash out without a deal" on 29 March 2019.
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The ERG's amendment regarding the backstop got knocked down, so I imagine they'll be quiet for a bit.

EDIT: SHIT SHIT SHIT! CORBACHEV IS TABLING A MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE.
 
CWCissey said:
The ERG's amendment regarding the backstop got knocked down, so I imagine they'll be quiet for a bit.

EDIT: SHIT SHIT SHIT! CORBACHEV IS TABLING A MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE.
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Maybot is well and truly fucked now, as no MP in their right mind would support her after that historic performance.
 
Aristophanes said:
Maybot is well and truly fucked now, as no MP in their right mind would support her after that historic performance.
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Well the DUP has already pledged to support the Governme-

Yeah I see your point.
 
So, doing some maths here...

May loses VoNC tomorrow.

Fourteen days until revote takes us to 30 Jan.

May loses that too.

General election triggered, but this needs to take place after 25 working days.

So assuming they go for the traditional Thursday GE...pop 7 March in your calendars lads!
 
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