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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[BongoMongo]

No 10 refuses to say if key Mandelson texts were lost in phone theft (archive)

McSweeney has conveniently lost a phone that contained evidence against Mandelson.

They're good at that. I'm sure I read somewhere that one of the Labour councils where Muslims were raping kids (lol which one? Hah) "lost" laptops which had evidence on them about it all.

 

[Fun Factory]

one of the Labour councils where Muslims were raping kids (lol which one? Hah) "lost" laptops which had evidence on them about it all

If there's one thing you should know about this country by now, it's that it can always get worse:

When I went in to the office I was told that over the weekend somebody had gained access to the Risky Business office, opened the filing cabinets and removed all of the data relating to the Home Office work. To be clear to the committee that involved accessing the grounds of the International Centre; gaining access to the Centre itself; disarming the alarm; moving through a key coded and locked security door; unlocking the door to the part of the building where the project office was located; unlocking the door to the project office itself; unlocking a desk and finding the keys to the filing cabinets; identifying which filing cabinet had my Home Office pilot data in it; and removing my data but nothing else. There were no signs of a forced entry.

Additionally the office computer, which was password protected, had been accessed. Some documents had been deleted, and there appeared to be minutes of meetings which had been created over the weekend. We knew that because of a log of activity which showed that documents had been created or edited over the weekend on the computer hard drive. The minutes of those meetings, which I had purportedly attended, showed that I had apparently agreed to certain conditions regarding the disclosure of the data to the Home Office evaluators and the consequences of failing to adhere to those conditions were outlined to me. In particular, I had agreed not to submit data to the Home Office evaluators without express line management approval. I had not attended any such meetings, had such conditions outlined to me, or agreed to them. In fact the date of one of the meetings that I had supposedly attended was when I was overseas on annual leave.

For reference, Risky Business was an organisation that worked with with young women at risk of sexual exploitation in Rotherham, which is rather like being a firefighter in hell.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

For reference, Risky Business was an organisation that worked with with young women at risk of sexual exploitation in Rotherham, which is rather like being a firefighter in hell.

I read about things like this happening over 10 years ago. This isn't a single incident. There is an active attempt to cover it up. Evidence goes missing all the time, people go missing or end up threatened by shadowy groups. There is no conspiracy bigger and it makes Epstein and Jimmy look open.

I saw Louis Theroux's latest documentary. He gets bullied by IRL streamers selling life coaching courses. He can't really get them to say or do anything he can home in on and use to make them look bad because they're always filming him. So any edits to make them look bad would back fire. Other than a group of idiots assaulting a possible pedo they set up there's nothing. But they show the chat for some live streams and it's all "Louis is a JEW!"" and they lay into him constantly about Savile. Saying he was mates with him (which he half admits in interviews that he actually liked him and warmed to him when they filmed together). He claimed he was part of exposing Savile but I don't see it. He made 2016 documentary as he felt guilty for his original one, but by that point he was already outed. And it's not like you can work at the BBC, do all the research and get hired to do a documentary with a known pedo and not be forewarned. He knew, he fucking had to know.

He seems to have laid off the hit pieces a bit, but it's really boring. 90 minutes is too long and none of it is interesting. It's IRL streamers being IRL streamers with an extra camera in the room. It's a marketing vehicle for them because Louis has no angle on them. "You're toxic, you hate jews, you hate women" is answered with "yea mate". Maybe normies will be upset by it but any one who's spent any time online knows the manosphere grifters and they're edgy memes.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I read about things like this happening over 10 years ago. This isn't a single incident. There is an active attempt to cover it up. Evidence goes missing all the time, people go missing or end up threatened by shadowy groups. There is no conspiracy bigger and it makes Epstein and Jimmy look open.

The BBC is complicit with everything. Every major media organisation has been complicit to a degree, which is why so much of this information never made it to the public sphere until there was simply no way to deny it any longer. Even now, when everyone is finally becoming aware of the true scale of the problem, they're still trying to cover it up as much as possible. The only conclusion that must be drawn is that they want our children raped.

 

[Otterly]

The BBC is complicit with everything. Every major media organisation has been complicit to a degree, which is why so much of this information never made it to the public sphere until there was simply no way to deny it any longer. Even now, when everyone is finally becoming aware of the true scale of the problem, they're still trying to cover it up as much as possible. The only conclusion that must be drawn is that they want our children raped.

They dont call it the Establishment for nothing. This kind of thing is rife through every major structure in our society. The scale of it is overwhelming.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

The BBC is complicit with everything. Every major media organisation has been complicit to a degree, which is why so much of this information never made it to the public sphere until there was simply no way to deny it any longer. Even now, when everyone is finally becoming aware of the true scale of the problem, they're still trying to cover it up as much as possible. The only conclusion that must be drawn is that they want our children raped.

The police and information services are also part of it. The same with the immigrant stuff. There is something very dark going on in the halls of power.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Yeah, I got hail too, which was bizarre because the same thing happened the prior week.

 

[BongoMongo]

My house is an end of terrace (of course I live in a terrace,this is Norf FC) and the wind has been blowing so hard it's been shaking the place. It's almost booming down the chimney (though it's a small price to pay for having a fireplace. It should be a hate crime to brick over them in older homes. We reopened the one in the bedroom, got it done up properly and now have a lovely little wood burner in it. It's cosy as fuck and well worth it) and it's made me wake up earlier this afternoon thinking there were building works outside. No rain now, and clear skies so I'm not sure where this long promised show is meant to come from.

 

[Overly Serious]

There's a lot on the UK right who believe Trump is going to save them and lets be frank about that, all Trump has done is make some quips at Starmer and not improved our standard of living at all. The fact he's trying to drag the UK into a war that they've nothing to do with or America and Israel starting a war with Europe being most effected from the after effects is not something a lot on the UK right are very happy about.

In several ways Trump has made things worse for Europe, mainly through things that have driven energy costs sky high but our own governments built the heffalump traps. Hard to really blame Trump for pushing us in. American industry is the big winner right now. Blows up our pipelines, makes us enact sanctions that drive our own companies fleeing to the USA. One imagines if he told Mertz or Ursula Von der Lyon to dress up as clowns and dance, they would.

BUT, he has also shaken things up in very interesting ways and dealt a powerful blow to the Globohomo order. He's a fucking bull in a china shop but I didn't like the china in the first place. A lot of people have realised that change and nationalism are possible after all.

I mean it could be worse, if you’d been born around 1890s you’d have been drafted Into ww1 then seen your kids drafted into ww2.

I have a print of Charles Spencelayh's "Why War?" hung up on the wall of my office. It basically depicts a WWI veteran sitting contemplatively on the eve of WWII:

I once saw the play "This Happy Breed" by Noel Coward, who turns out not to just be a name but someone who actually wrote things. It's set between the wars and the father who fought in the first gets to see his son ramping up for the second. His son gets very political and his father says the quite insightful criticism: "It's not that your ideas are wrong, it's that you think they're new."

Some day I want to go through a whole bunch of newspapers and letters from the time because I bet contrary to all the revisionist takes on things, a lot of people were very cynical indeed about the wars.

What if I faced a once in a lifetime disaster and I'm still trying to pick up the pieces knowing half of them are missing?

Then we're all here to make jokes with you and upvote your rants. Hang in there, buddy!

The police and information services are also part of it. The same with the immigrant stuff. There is something very dark going on in the halls of power.

The Labour MP Alan Simpson, who I actually liked, when he resigned said it was because he could do more good from the outside than the in. That should clue in anybody.

 

[Otterly]

What if I faced a once in a lifetime disaster and I'm still trying to pick up the pieces knowing half of them are missing?

You ok?

It should be a hate crime to brick over them in older homes

Nothing better than finding an intact cast iron fireplace with the original tiles under some bit of board on a restoration job.

Some day I want to go through a whole bunch of newspapers and letters from the time because I bet contrary to all the revisionist takes on things, a lot of people were very cynical indeed about the wars.

I’ll be interested to see if you find anything. Our propaganda corps has been exceptionally good for a long time. I suspect you’ll find a lot of things about victory gardens and melting railings and very few serious explorations of what average people really thought. Imagine getting blown up and gassed in a trench and then barely a generation later they want to send your children there too. I’m amazed nobody just lynched the government.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Some day I want to go through a whole bunch of newspapers and letters from the time because I bet contrary to all the revisionist takes on things, a lot of people were very cynical indeed about the wars.

One of the biggest revisions is the national socialists were quite popular. They were making deals with their soon to be enemies. But we've always been at war with Eurasia is the history.

Then we're all here to make jokes with you and upvote your rants. Hang in there, buddy!

I'd buy some rope but in this economy I couldn't afford the good stuff. Let alone trying to hang a rope from a modern build. If you tried it you would bring half the building down when you jumped off the chair.

 

[Overly Serious]

I'd buy some rope but in this economy I couldn't afford the good stuff. Let alone trying to hang a rope from a modern build. If you tried it you would bring half the building down when you jumped off the chair.

Hell, I'd probably bring down an old build!

But if it gets that bad, always reach out to someone. If some of the cunts in power don't have the decency to top themselves, better people shouldn't be doing it. I personally am not going till I see Tony Blair buried - I ain't missing that for the World.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

You ok?

I'll live. You know what living in this country is like. Some times it gets a bit much and you need to step back. Trying to figure out how to navigate the hellscape and find meaning in life is something we all struggle with occasionally. Spring is supposed to be the time of fresh things and seeing the bright future, and I'm not seeing much joy.

Hell, I'd probably bring down an old build!

But if it gets that bad, always reach out to someone. If some of the cunts in power don't have the decency to top themselves, better people shouldn't be doing it. I personally am not going till I see Tony Blair buried - I ain't missing that for the World.

I was only joking around. We need as many people as we can to get through this mess.

 

[BongoMongo]

Spring is all well and good but it's also the time of year when bills go up. Fucking yaldy.

 

[Otterly]

I'd buy some rope but in this economy I couldn't afford the good stuff. Let alone trying to hang a rope from a modern build. If you tried it you would bring half the building down when you jumped off the chair.

I know someone who had a new build that had been so Jerry-built that there were no joists above the downstairs windows. I wouldn’t have believed them, but they’d actually taken pictures of it. They’d wanted new UPVC windows in and when they’d taken the old ones out - no joist. Clearly light fittings strong enough to hang yourself from are extra .

was only joking around.

Hmm, well if you say so. But if you’re feeling bad, reach out. I know we all snipe at each other but if you need a rant, you can rant at us.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Thanks for the heads up on that thread I'll check it out.

If you want you can stick shit like that into suno dot ai too, it'll turn whatever into a song which I always find kinda interesting if I write anything more thoughtful than just what I am currently thinking.

Matt Brittin

Can't wait for him to fill the c suite with a Paul Inglund and a Christ Skotland.

Anyone else getting snow? The forecast said rain, but I've had a blizzard in the last hour.

Fucking scared the shit out of me. I thought the roof was leaking. No it's just the noise of hail that has decided to appear randomly. I assume it's not just me that thinks the sound of hail on a roof sounds like water dripping from a ceiling onto tiles at least.

We reopened the one in the bedroom, got it done up properly and now have a lovely little wood burner in it. It's cosy as fuck and well worth it)

I love the idea of a fireplace. It just sounds really nice and cosy. But also I kinda fear that our stupid giant fluffy dog might sit a bit too close and catch her hair on fire or some shit. Idk fire is just one of those things that I refuse to fuck around with. Even candles I never leave on if I'm not in the same room. Electronics too. I just have visions of coming back home to that Glaswegian vape shop.

 

[Mound Dweller]

I know we all snipe at each other but if you need a rant, you can rant at us.

Indeed, though buyer beware; rant-backs compulsory

I love the idea of a fireplace. It just sounds really nice and cosy. But also I kinda fear that our stupid giant fluffy dog might sit a bit too close and catch her hair on fire or some shit. Idk fire is just one of those things that I refuse to fuck around with. Even candles I never leave on if I'm not in the same room. Electronics too. I just have visions of coming back home to that Glaswegian vape shop.

My parent's massive shepherd used to love plonking his head exactly 1 inch from roaring woodpiles, never so much as singed himself , fire is rightly spooky but if you do it right (using a proper burner, having a bucket of sand, cleaning the damn thing etc) it's surprisingly difficult to go wrong even when foolish children stick their hands in the damn thing.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It should be a hate crime to brick over them in older homes.

We had to rip them out in ours. Damp course had failed twenty years ago, so they were sodden and falling apart at the bottom. They only opened into the ground floor rooms anyway; no fireplace at all upstairs, just the narrow chimney from the floor below. Not a complete tragedy, though. Commons are great for building little features and raised beds in the back garden.

"It's not that your ideas are wrong, it's that you think they're new."

I'm using this one on my niece next time she gets on her high horse about something.

Can't wait for him to fill the c suite with a Paul Inglund and a Christ Skotland.

And George Wales (son of William). Might as well have a literal child running the place.

 

[EddyRooney]

I personally am not going till I see Tony Blair buried - I ain't missing that for the World.

We can have a pissing contest.

 

[Otterly]

We can have a pissing contest.

I’ll join you (you will need to turn around for the sake of propriety.)
Mind you if everyone who wanted to piss on Blair’s corpse turned up you’d need to bury him in one of those New Orleans style overground tombs. Because the ground wouldn’t hold him.