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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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The Midlands is pretty aggressive for the U.K. anyway, but there’s such a lack of fun and creativity in Brum that it depresses me every time I’m forced to go there. Duran Duran and Sabbath excepted, of course.
The Midlands is very creative but it's all tucked away in places you wouldn't visit if you didn't know they were there before hand. Small barn yards turned into art studios making some fantastic art. They do a lot of creative things using their gardens and plants. The villages have beautiful gardens when you drive through them.
The judgemental and aggressive attitude makes creativity or any kind of chasing your dreams hard. Locals just love to cut anyone down if they can, especially someone from their own town. It’s just a sad, sad area.
I feel personally targeted and slighted!

The Midlands are a lot like Hobbiton. Among their own people they're very friendly to each other, but to outsiders they are harsh. They're close enough to London to get constant immigrant invasions and they were already a hard people before that. There's a lot of paranoia and mistrust to go around when they were ground zero for the immigrant hotels and filling their area with dangerous outsiders. Hardy people who speak their mind, call a spade, a spade and try to be honest if harsh with each other don't do well in police states like we live in. Even if they are harsh and judgemental, most midlanders would give you the shirt off their back if you genuinely needed it. They are harsh, but generous to those in need.

The towns in the midlands are a thing all to themselves. No one I know from the area even considers them part of the same country. They go to them when they need something they can't get else where or have a hospital appointment. Other wise it's "This is a shit hole, council wasted all the money and unbongos are roaming the streets and no one feels safe there". There's a few small towns that are middle class and have managed to avoid it, but their councils fill the place with fag flags and waste all the money on cock sucking festivals for aids zombies.
 
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Just because you've got a gopro doesn't make you a journalist innit bruv, nice HopeNotHate namedrop too as if that means anything offline.
Their profile (aka hatchet job) on him is nice though, yet another spic huentes wannabe, really captures his yoof (nice combover lol).
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He really is called Moffitt, what a twit.
I don't care who he's "affiliated" with, truncheon his neck already, god please someone just fucking batter him (legally, in fear of their life etc).
 
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The village I grew uo in was very welcoming. We only offered 1...maybe 2, outsiders to the corn a year.
Luxury. We walked four miles in the snow uphill to school both ways and offered our strangers to the Pit. Then our mam and dad would thrash us to sleep wi’ bread knife. Still you tell kids that and they don’t believe you
 
The towns in the midlands are a thing all to themselves. No one I know from the area even considers them part of the same country. They go to them when they need something they can't get else where or have a hospital appointment. Other wise it's "This is a shit hole, council wasted all the money and unbongos are roaming the streets and no one feels safe there".

You have perfectly described Northampton. Shame, 30 years ago it was a pleasant enough place.
 
To continue my Midlands sperging, you used to be able to tell what suburb, or even street, people were from. People from Tipton (a tiny section of streets in Sandwell) have a unique accent compared to the rest of Sandwell and Dudley. All this has been lost because brown kids and white kids wanna all sound like Fake Londoners.

The Astley warehouse will be getting a feature on GBNews tonight. If you haven't followed this, Wigan Council approved an absolutely horrendous warehouse to be built behind peoples houses. It has caused multiple issues and is also just ugly as hell, and the council has ignored residents from the start. They have been campaigning for a while on instagram (you may have seen videos), I was wondering when GBNews or 'the right' would take an interest. I hope the council is thoroughly investigated.
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You have perfectly described Northampton. Shame, 30 years ago it was a pleasant enough place.
The actual town I was thinking of when I describe the midlands. Used to have a thriving shoe industry, they were making very high end shoes and shipping them the world over. Chinese sweat shops flooded the country with cheap garbage and the industry died. The town was left with nothing, it was just the central point of the country so you could stop there if you wanted to get away from London. It's an hour by train to most places and the area around it is rural enough to afford a weekend home for the ultra rich to live in an old barn. People left because there was no industry any more, there was no hope of the place being revived. Any projects the council try fail and go massively over budget. The new council merging now gives Northampton council power over all the other towns budgets and they steal their money to waste in Northampton while the other small towns stagnate even harder. It's now like 50% Black or Paki. Lots of dodgy barbers and phone shops. All the "European" super markets have disappeared and become barbers or sketchy take aways with 0 hygiene ratings. Everything is dirty and smelly, feels unsafe to walk the streets, even the market square they recently completely replaced feels unsafe due to how many darkies lurk there. The shopping centers were once high tech and full of different shops. Now there's like 4 Chinese sweat shop clothing shops like Primark.

The place is beautiful in many ways. Places like the Guild hall are still stunning to this day, but everything around them is so dirty. I used to enjoy visiting it as a kid. Get on the train and spend a day there going to the old Games Workshop, visiting Game and Gamestation. Get a McDonalds for tea and head back home. The rare occasions I've been back there in the last few years it's always been miserable. If you look at the news for the area the local paper is the anti MiW. Every article is whining about Reform and getting Reform members cancelled for saying Labour is full of useless women doing nothing in positions of power.

I don't know how you fix a town like Northampton. It's not totally lost but there's no fire in any one's belly to renovate it. If you got rid of all the wogs and invested some proper money cleaning the place up it has potential to be a lovely town. Like it used to be in the 90s. I don't know if the online shopping thing has completely killed the concept of an old English town like that though. Is it possible to make people want to go to a town? What industry could they offer it? There's lots of car manufacturing and warehouse work because it's a central part of the country. But being the cross roads to every where else does nothing for Jim and Debby living there.
 
Brum is the worst
Nah the city would be nice. It has some nice parts and the best aquarium in the country. Quite a lot of the city is really nice. It's just all covered in 50 layers of shit. It's nicer than people say you just have to look past shit that is almost impossible to look past.
You can almost taste it
There are few things I would want to do than use the words 'taste' and 'midlands' in the same sentence. Especially with -insert disease name here- going around.
absolutely horrendous warehouse
I FUCKING LOVE GREY BOX I AM GLAD I WENT TO TRADE SCHOOL TO MAKE GREY PLASTIC BOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you absolutely have to shit out more of these eyesores just move them back 25m and plant a big row of poplar/pine trees so no one sees it like how they used to do with these sorts of eyesores. But no. You just get your entire view ruined because sharron needed those novelty matching corrie anniversary salt and pepper shakers within the next day. If I owned a house there I would be fucking pissed. Do I get reimbursed for the damage you have done to my property value? At least it'll be rotting and falling down in a few decades I guess.
 
I don't know how you fix a town like Northampton. It's not totally lost but there's no fire in any one's belly to renovate it. If you got rid of all the wogs and invested some proper money cleaning the place up it has potential to be a lovely town.
Yeah I dunno. There have been Indian and West Indian people in Northampton for donkey's years, and back in the day, those people cared about the town as much as anyone else. There's still a crazy black guy called Wendel who is the number one superfan of the cricket team and is always there with his flag. But something changed and the last couple of times I've been there it feels as though it's been abandoned to die, and the bones are being picked over by the recent immigrants who have zero interest in the long-term wellbeing of the place where they live.
 
I’ve taken people from many other countries to the Midlands, and they’re always shocked by how people look you up and down in the street, how people talk to each other, the absolute lack of respect for anyone and anything. The judgemental and aggressive attitude makes creativity or any kind of chasing your dreams hard. Locals just love to cut anyone down if they can, especially someone from their own town. It’s just a sad, sad area.
midlands slander sans brum and leicester is lame and is usually spread by bugmen like you from built up areas in yorkshire or the home counties who live off stolen funds
 
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Yeah I dunno. There have been Indian and West Indian people in Northampton for donkey's years, and back in the day, those people cared about the town as much as anyone else. There's still a crazy black guy called Wendel who is the number one superfan of the cricket team and is always there with his flag. But something changed and the last couple of times I've been there it feels as though it's been abandoned to die, and the bones are being picked over by the recent immigrants who have zero interest in the long-term wellbeing of the place where they live.
They were dodgy back then as well.

The final nail in the coffin was the amount of blacks brought in. As the high street declined and the market was replaced with dodgy phone stalls the town gave up. It used to be run down but it felt sleepy rather than dangerous. Now you visit and you will see open drug dealing. I met a lass a few weeks back who had to go there for some appointment and told her to watch where she went. Some estates are no go zones. They've been in paki hands for decades and they will go after whites who go near them. It's not spoke about a lot. Even the award winning chippies have been bought out by foreigners who still use the name, claim the prize but serve crap food.

When the Southport stuff was kicking off Northampton was used as one of the propaganda centers. They rallied all the foreigners into the streets for photo ops and they showed it in quite a few news articles.

I could go on but it's just sad at this point. I'm a warhammer autist and the Midlands has shops and clubs in every town. I keep my eye on the region to see what is going on, but increasingly me and my mates hear an event is in Northampton and skip it.

The only good thing in that town any more are the little robots that deliver things. It's cool to see a little box on wheels riding around the paths.
 
They were dodgy back then as well.
It's a numbers game

You can tolerate small numbers outside the social norm but when there's too many they can't be policed

I've noticed it with something as simple as queuing

Used to be, ten people in the queue for the bus or whatever. There was always maybe 10% who'd try to skip and had to be told to fuck off. Social pressure works. There's another 20-30% who are latent skippers. They'll try it if they think there'll be no pushback. Plenty will try to skip kids but not adults for example.

Anyway. 1 skipper, kept in check by the 6 who are "committed" to the system. The 3 latent kept in check by seeing the one get policed.

That was the antediluvian detente.

Took a little bit of work to keep it in stasis.

Now though, foreigners don't know how to or care to learn about queuing. Not just browns, continentals don't either. Spanish students on English language trips have been catching flak for it for decades.

Anyway, now you have one native chancer, an extra couple who just don't understand the idea on epistemological level, so you get more infractions, which emboldens the latent queue skippers.

Eventually you get to a situation where everyone *has* to skip because the stalemate is broken and you can only lose if you don't participate in the new normal.

Anyway. It's a bit autistic but it's amazing explaining the breakdown in queuing to someone without blaming there being too many brownies, because you can just see the cogs spinning and then settling on that conclusion anyway
 
Selhurst Park? Yeah, I’d want to get out if I were a Palace player, too.

Weird what your brain does with word association, innit?


And a very lovely place it is too, although attempting to type the name in quite a few gentler places on the internet can get you censored or banned. Ditto for ‘Arsenal’ (and not because of the utterly boring football they play).


There is nothing nice about Brum. The whole thing would be deserving of a bulldozer and some nice turfing over, if that didn’t mean rehoming the Brummies elsewhere in the U.K.

Of all the places I’ve been (and I’ve been to some pretty horrible places), Brum is the worst. Not just how it looks, or the accent or the people (or the mass of immigrants), there’s just an awful atmosphere to the place. The Midlands is pretty aggressive for the U.K. anyway, but there’s such a lack of fun and creativity in Brum that it depresses me every time I’m forced to go there. Duran Duran and Sabbath excepted, of course.
It was a nice place once, but it got hollowed out by the Distribution of Industry Act, the Local Employment Act and the Office Development Permit system.

Basically there were prosperous hubs like London and Birmingham, but midcentury planners felt urban sprawl was bad, so they figured they could balance employment opportunities oop North by forcing industry and service industry to focus on building facilities in more deprived regions (basically "levelling up"). London was too big to kill, but it effectively constrained Birmingham. Manchester is nice now because Birmingham was sacrified on a pyre.
 
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