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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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At first I thought this funny feeling in me waters was an impending UTI, but nope. It's a small, nascent seed of hope.

Lowe looking down the lens at us like Clint eastwood in his first campaign video: "that tingle you feel in your waters is not a urinary tract infection. it's hope."
 
It seems that Lowe was kicked out of Reform and went straight to writing policies like a lovelorn emo writes break-up poems.
It was the fact he was writing policy proposals that got him kicked out to begin with. Farage doesn't like anyone else coming up with ideas.

My worry now (the thread is all-in on Restore, so I have to introduce a little discontent) is that Lowe, being a financebro, will also slip into the same egomania and turn himself into the same messiah figure he criticised Farage as being. I suppose the difference is he was in property, whereas Farage was a commodities broker. Maybe they process ego differently.
 
Saw this today, didn't know where else to post this: lefty British parents react poorly to early 20's son making right wing social media posts, police called:

 
@Clem Fandango: I like how they described the benefits explosion as a pisstake that needs to end. That resonated with me.

However, I would support better state welfare in the short term for people out of work, and looking for a job. Unemployment is part of life. It is morally sick to me that someone in that position should have their income reduced to under £850 a month (£837 odd of pure single, no kids, outside of London. A figure I'll remember to my death bed) and have to deal with the worry of complete financial insecurity alongside the stress of job hunting. It's morally repugnant.

On that note, unemployment is at 5.2%, a five year high. Quelle surprise, Labour isn't working.
 
Reform have announced their departmental leaders for any future government.

Tice - Deputy PM, Business, Trade & Energy
Jenrick - Treasury
Yusuf - Home Affairs
Braverman - Education, Skills and Equality

You may notice that they did not announce an owner of the Foreign Affairs brief. It was leaked last night that this was going to be Zahawi, but no announcement was made today. Intriguing.
Holy fuck it’s literally majority brown
 
My worry now (the thread is all-in on Restore, so I have to introduce a little discontent) is that Lowe, being a financebro, will also slip into the same egomania and turn himself into the same messiah figure he criticised Farage as being. I suppose the difference is he was in property, whereas Farage was a commodities broker. Maybe they process ego differently.
It's important to stay sceptical. My hope is that Lowe seems to be cut of a different cloth and has put his money where his mouth is IE the Rape Gang Inquiry, doing it with no/little media attention or headlines like Farage would want (or be given, if you think he's controlled opposition). IIRC Habib wanted Lowe to join/lead a party right after he was tossed out Reform, but he didn't. While Restore will have been in the works for a while, it didn't seem to be his first move.
Lowe also donates to charities in Yarmouth with his MP salary and seems to do a lot of work there, I have never heard of Farage doing anything for Clacton.
 
My worry now (the thread is all-in on Restore, so I have to introduce a little discontent) is that Lowe, being a financebro, will also slip into the same egomania and turn himself into the same messiah figure he criticised Farage as being
I hope he is an egomaniac. I hope he builds a 50ft statue of two Lowes noshing themselves off in the middle of Bradford.
If he sets the social clock back to the 60's/70's and we see a renaissance because of it, he can make every eighth day Lowesday, where we have to dress up as Lowe and have a public parade in his honour for all I care.

I am skeptical of him, because he is another establishment snob, BUT! he seems to be an old-school rich English gent, where money came secondary to decency, order and rules.

To be effective, he has to be an egomaniac.
On that note, unemployment is at 5.2%, a five year high. Quelle surprise, Labour isn't working.
Immigration is also at a five year high. I thought migrants were supposed to plug the labour gaps, not increase them?
 
However, I would support better state welfare in the short term for people out of work, and looking for a job. Unemployment is part of life. It is morally sick to me that someone in that position should have their income reduced to under £850 a month (£837 odd of pure single, no kids, outside of London. A figure I'll remember to my death bed) and have to deal with the worry of complete financial insecurity alongside the stress of job hunting. It's morally repugnant.
Agree. There should be a safety net. Some European countries have a scheme where you pay in every month, and if you lose your job you get a set percentage of your salary for several months, which would cover the things most people potentially face, like redundancy and job loss, etc. It’s easy to say e dry one should save but wages are low and costs high and I doubt many people have a few months salary sat by.
We do need a safety net, short term, for those who fall on hard times. What we can’t have is endless welfare for people who just walked into the country, or people gaming the system.
 
With the claims of the right's vote being split 3-ways, do you think Labour could be emboldened to call an early general election down the line?
The interesting part is how GBNews and TalkTV are going to deal with this.
They showcased a poll claiming 92% of people can't recognise Rupert Lowe. Not really groundbreaking news since he's kept low profile the past few months.
 
Agree. There should be a safety net. Some European countries have a scheme where you pay in every month, and if you lose your job you get a set percentage of your salary for several months, which would cover the things most people potentially face, like redundancy and job loss, etc. It’s easy to say e dry one should save but wages are low and costs high and I doubt many people have a few months salary sat by.
We do need a safety net, short term, for those who fall on hard times. What we can’t have is endless welfare for people who just walked into the country, or people gaming the system.
The thing is,the system maximises the £££ you get if you go down the PIP route. And what makes people sick? Financial worries for one thing.

If someone is demonstrably looking for work and spending hours per week day looking for a job, then we should pay up to 80% of their salary or pay for a few months. I got extremely lucky with my last involvement with the job centre (there's a lot of non cash help they don't tell you about. You have to ask. If anyone needs any advice, ever on this , please feel free to message me) but it shouldn't rely on luck and it is so offensive that someone doing as much in terms of a job search as a full time job should have to go to a fold bank, FFS.
 
The funny thing about safety nets is that they almost always benefit the terminally unemployed. Work for 40 years and get enough pension contributions for a pension and you've got your state pension (lets just pretend it's 100% still there when we retire) now if you'd simply done fucking nothing for your entire life and contributed ZERO pension contributions, you're fucked right? Wrong. You get Pension Credit which is like 20 quid less per week than the state pension. You'll also get other shit like rent assistance and the winter fuel allowance.

40 years of contributions. An unbelievable amount of NI taken from your pay every single fucking month only to end up with 20 quid more per week than Rita the crackhead.
 
They showcased a poll claiming 92% of people can't recognise Rupert Lowe. Not really groundbreaking news since he's kept low profile the past few months.

On the face of it, being recognised by 'only' 8% of the public doesn't sound impressive, but my understanding is that the survey which generated that figure is both quite dated, having been carried out shortly after Rupert left Reform, and involved showing the respondents a picture of Rupert's face (as well as other politicians) and asking them to name the politician they were shown (I seem to remember that several surveyees thought that Rupert was David Amess, and I think there is a vague resemblance).

On that basis, I think having 8% of the population able to name you on sight alone is quite impressive. How many active politicians can do better? Starmer, obviously. Reeves & Miliband as well. Maybe Cooper and Lammy. Not sure any other member of the Cabinet would get 8% recognition. Beyond that you would have Badenoch, maybe Patel. Sunak, obviously. Maybe Hunt. Davey probably. Definitely Farage & Corbyn. Maybe Jenrick. Hypnoboobs would probably be around that level but certainly neither of the 2 that preceded him as Green leader. So 8% for a guy who has never had much of a mainstream media presence is quite good going in my opinion.
 
With the claims of the right's vote being split 3-ways, do you think Labour could be emboldened to call an early general election down the line?
I hope they're dumb enough to do this. Theresa May found out the hard way that people will coalesce fast, even in a snap GE with only a few weeks notice. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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If anyone needs any advice, ever on this , please feel free to message me)
Were you the former podiatrist? I may need to DM you on an...unrelated matter.
 
What a terrible cabinet. Tice as business sec, he fucking lives in Dubai shagging Isabelle Oakshot as she gives her daily glaze to TalkTV. A Muzzie Home Sec, you mean like the corrupt bitch in currently?

On top of that, Reform commentators are welcoming to join up with the Tories. What the fuck even changed?

I rarely agree with Starmer, if ever, but I am actually starting to think Farage is a plant by Russia or some other foreign power. These waspy women are insane; they cannot see they are voting for the same party.
 
Reform coming out looking like they're a slightly lighter blue Tories is pretty amusing, ngl. So what colour of the rosette did Restore decide to take?
 
Excellent video by Sargon of Appleby's
Jesus fucking Christ we must be in a dark timeline if the word 'excellent' and soygoy are being said in the same sentence.
The interesting part is how GBNews and TalkTV are going to deal with this.
Look I don't give a shit about politics, I've said a few times I don't care about most of this thread other than just making jokes that I am legally not allowed to anywhere else. And I knew who the fuck Lowe was. Restore is 24 hours old but that doesn't mean it came from nowhere. Half the reason why he made a party is because people were already listening to him and telling him they support him. He already had a decent amount of support before starting the party. Even if he did only get 10% of the vote that's still better than the tories and labour that have ruled for centuries.
did you read your daily mandated Lowe post this morning?
Isn't it fucking depressing that we're happy to hear this though? Something that is not a political standpoint or even an opinion, just something that until incredibly recently everyone just agreed as fact. And now we have to vote for it.
Just including a quote from that 'The accelerated funding has been prompted by increasing Russian aggression and concerns that the US is now a less reliable ally under Donald Trump'. Now mr starmer why might trump not want to help us? Could it be maybe a certain someone making us look like a fucking shitshow? And why do you think that the country that has given the most military aid to Ukraine would suddenly not help us? America would fucking love to fund another proxy war with Russia.
With the claims of the right's vote being split 3-ways, do you think Labour could be emboldened to call an early general election down the line?
Even if they did what's to stop the 'split' right just forming a coalition?
Were you the former podiatrist? I may need to DM you on an...unrelated matter.
If you need foot related help just send the images to null he'll help you right out.
 
I hope they're dumb enough to do this. Theresa May found out the hard way that people will coalesce fast, even in a snap GE with only a few weeks notice. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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Were you the former podiatrist? I may need to DM you on an...unrelated matter.
Absolutely feel free to do so. Send feet pics pls hahahha
 
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