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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

(which if you recall, caused a lot of kerfuffle with Rayner as she slipped up and said that would only give bennies to whites)

I missed that one, got any articles.

Instead it basically militarised the public overnight, saw Reform go from a fringe party to the clear choice for the next election and saw Labour completely crash and burn in terms of popularity and legitimacy.

What it also did is, as a result of Reform's rapid rise in popularity, is it exposed the tendrils that operate behind all of our political parties as the sudden advancement of their fortunes forced a far more rapid infiltration than normal. The sight of various politicians jumping ships, money moving from various donors and the subsequent tonal shift was fairly obvious and a helpful demonstration of the Establishment reconfiguring.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

I missed that one, got any articles.

Daily Mail, HuffPost. Correction it was Reeves not Rayner. It was Zia who attacked Reeves for suggesting the two child cap was a racist policy based off skin colour, but imho she did slip up by saying the quiet part out loud and leaving herself open to attacks like that.

 

[HairyBadger]

The real rot in UK society is not just to be thrown at the Politicians, most of whom I believe should end up in shallow graves, but in the Civil Service.

I am told that it is near impossible for a Minister to dismiss or sack or fire the head or senior staff of the department they are heading.

I would like to know the technicalities, but to me, for any Political party this seems wrong.

 

[EddyRooney]

@Chunky Salsa sort of has a point with the NHS - if we did get rid of every non-White member of staff overnight, then yes it would suffer in the short-term at the very least because:

Only structural and short term in nature. I'm assuming if we get rid of every non-white from the NHS staff, we also get to rid ourselves of all the other non-whites in the country ? The demand for NHS services would decrease, the question is, would it be at a proportional rate ?
Obviously in the short term anything like this would potentially be catastrophic for anyone unfortunate enough to be on a NHS waiting list. It would be a very hard drug to wean ourselves off.

Imagine seeing a NHS doctor and being able to communicate with them in their first language, being sure they understand the problem and being sure you understand what their proposed solution is, rather than being typically British, smiling politely, being grateful that they are trying to help and slightly embarrassed that you can't really understand them even though they are talking to you in ( sort of ) your own language.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

The public have overwhelmingly voted for the party that pledges to cut immigration since fucking 2003, the public voted for Brexit to stop the influx of Poles that were starting to cause huge labour issues and impact the job market (a significant amount of entry level factory positions were advertised in Polish) the public assumed the Tories would be tough on immigration and instead imported the fucking Boriswave. The reporting of Axel R was the last straw as it was obvious to everyone that everyone was trying to cover it up (and they kinda did, if you read the reports of how bad the 'stabbings' were, you'd discover that two of the children were nearly decapitated).

Did people forget the Polish were the original Turkish barbers? All of them ran dodgy scrap businesses or opened phone shops. They were also quite violent and cause a lot of trouble. They were 'white' but caused just as many problems as the other groups of foreigners did.

 

[Otterly]

a) We are not recruiting enough Doctors and Nursers etc. from our own countries.

A simple answer to this:

* A three year moratorium on importing overseas staff.

You need to go one layer further down.
The BMA is effectively a guild structure. It’s not that we arent hiring enough, it’s that we don’t train enough. The BMA blocks all attempts to increase training places because fewer places equal higher pay. Or it did before the influx of foreign doctors.
Now that wages are lagging the BMA has gone full commie, but the root cause is this guild structure.
Academic pay and medic pay used to be at parity, roughly. The BMA kept the medics end of the bargain up and so by the time I left academia medical pay was multiples of academic.
So to fix it you need;
-more British training places for British students.
-Keep all the properly qualified poles/russians/spaniards/japanese etc. They’re generally fine. They have qualifications that can be checked.
-ruthlessly weed out those with non equivalent qualifications (third world mainly) and get rid
-STOP importing cheap health staff from the third world. That goes for all levels.
-total overhaul of the nhs. It’s ridiculously inefficient

 

[Overdrive]

Swadlincote?

Nah, my shithole was the opposite side of Derby.

the Civil Service.

I definitely feel like most of the issues are coming from the civil service and them thinking they know better than everyone else for what the country wants/needs. If I had the power I would fire the lot of them right away and completely reform the system so it can never come back again.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

-total overhaul of the nhs. It’s ridiculously inefficient

If you do that then Cadbury and McVitties will go bankrupt. We need as many people sitting around doing nothing as possible.

 

[EddyRooney]

The real rot in UK society is not just to be thrown at the Politicians, most of whom I believe should end up in shallow graves, but in the Civil Service.

I am told that it is near impossible for a Minister to dismiss or sack or fire the head or senior staff of the department they are heading.

I would like to know the technicalities, but to me, for any Political party this seems wrong.

The latest Starkey....

I thought this comment from one of the viewers might interest you, who purports to be a civil servant -

"Speaking as a civil servant, I think that one very important element is often overlooked when talking about Blair / Cameron / May / Boris and the Uniparty, and their controlled opposition, and frequently mentioned by Matt Goodwin, is that the ruling elites, especially the senior members of the civil service, really are of one mind.

They think and believe exactly the same thing because they all went to the same schools, same universities, the same university towns, all attend the same social functions and embedded themselves with people exactly like them in organistations and institutions captured by people with precisely the same identical opinions. It's impossible to underestimate this and the creepy uniformity is directly proportional to how fanatical they are and how intensely angry they become if they come across anyone who challenges their views.

I have seen this first hand and it is something new that's emerged over the past few decades, and only it's only really comparable to watching a horror film about a creepy cult. Even the very idea of agreeing to disagree is utterly unthinkable to them and unlike anything I ever encountered before.I would like to see more of the discussion focus on this phenomenon and hope that David Starkey does talk to Matt Goodwin because I know that what's happened to the UK and the rest of the West is no accident and it's because of them."

 

[HairyBadger]

Only structural and short term in nature. I'm assuming if we get rid of every non-white from the NHS staff, we also get to rid ourselves of all the other non-whites in the country ? The demand for NHS services would decrease, the question is, would it be at a proportional rate ?
Obviously in the short term anything like this would potentially be catastrophic for anyone unfortunate enough to be on a NHS waiting list. It would be a very hard drug to wean ourselves off.

Imagine seeing a NHS doctor and being able to communicate with them in their first language, being sure they understand the problem and being sure you understand what their proposed solution is, rather than being typically British, smiling politely, being grateful that they are trying to help and slightly embarrassed that you can't really understand them even though they are talking to you in ( sort of ) your own language.

It's been near 30 years since I was at Uni. In the 90's the Govt were importing foreign medical staff to make up for a shortfall in locally trained medical staff.
The Govt at the time ( tory and labour) both failed to increase local intake in favour of more financially profitable foreign students.

 

[Product Placement]

Not much in details yet, but BBC is reporting that Met Police launch criminal investigation into Mandelson

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clynp40ekrdt?post=asset%3Ad697fa6f-b716-499d-835c-0bcb7158f123#post

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I would like to see more of the discussion focus on this phenomenon and hope that David Starkey does talk to Matt Goodwin because I know that what's happened to the UK and the rest of the West is no accident and it's because of them."

You do not accidentally import millions of people from across the globe. How could it be accidental?

I don't normally care about stickers but why did you rate my comment on the Polish dumb? My home town was infested with them the same way it is pakis and blacks now. They had 5 phone repair shops on the high street that never had customers. They were often involved in organized crime and drug dealing and those who weren't still lived 20 to a house and sent all the money back to Poland.

They were just as much a drain as the current lot. Brexit just changed which gangs were allowed to operate here as far as I've seen. Drugs, prostitution and violence are a problem with every foreign group able to move here on mass. No good people come here, they have no reason to want to. The people who live here don't even want to be here.

 

[EddyRooney]

Did people forget the Polish were the original Turkish barbers? All of them ran dodgy scrap businesses or opened phone shops. They were also quite violent and cause a lot of trouble. They were 'white' but caused just as many problems as the other groups of foreigners did.

Caused as many problems ? Please think before you type.
I'm indifferent to Jam Rolls, but to claim they caused as many problems.....
....Don't remember the Polish plumbers marching through London threatening all and sundry to join their fruity little club.
Or all those kids raped by the Polish men who viewed them as sub-human. Or that famous Polish scum bag who attacked and killed the little girls at the dance party.
Jesus wept, the Poles might have a criminal element, but to say they caused as many problems as the huge swaith of brown invaders we have now, you must be retarded.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Caused as many problems ? Please think before you type.
I'm indifferent to Jam Rolls, but to claim they caused as many problems.....
....Don't remember the Polish plumbers marching through London threatening all and sundry to join their fruity little club.
Or all those kids raped by the Polish men who viewed them as sub-human. Or that famous Polish scum bag who attacked and killed the little girls at the dance party.
Jesus wept, the Poles might have a criminal element, but to say they caused as many problems as the huge swaith of brown invaders we have now, you must be retarded.

So you have forgotten? They were running a slave trade all over the midlands area. Drug dealing. raping and murdering random students.

This is an AI summary but they were targeting little girls for sex work.

A Polish trafficking gang operating in Leeds was sentenced in January 2026 for exploiting vulnerable women, primarily from Poland, by forcing them into prostitution. Wieslaw Michniewicz, 53, and his wife Aleksandra Timoszek, 32, were convicted of modern slavery and controlling prostitution offences, receiving 15-year and 7.5-year prison sentences respectively. They orchestrated a network that brought teenage girls to the UK under false pretenses of legitimate work, only to force them into sex work for up to 20 hours a day. Their earnings funded a lavish lifestyle, including luxury sports cars like a Porsche Carrera. The gang, which included Michniewicz’s cousin Mariusz Seretny, 45, and his wife Marta Seretny, 41, was uncovered after an anonymous letter from a victim triggered a police investigation. The operation spanned from December 2015 to July 2016, with 14 victims identified.


Another major case involved Sebastian Zimoch, 48, and his wife Anna Zimoch, 46, who ran a trafficking ring across seven London brothels from 2015 to 2021.

They exploited around 300 Polish women, making £500,000, with victims subjected to extreme abuse, including starvation and drug use. In Gloucestershire, Maciej Kozlowski, Piotr Lebek, and Agata Jankowski were jailed in 2024 for running a sex trafficking ring that forced Eastern European women to work up to 10 clients a day in multiple UK cities, using threats and fake firearms to maintain control. These cases highlight ongoing efforts by UK authorities to dismantle organized trafficking networks linked to Polish nationals.

We even had Polish serial killers / rapists here attacking our kids.

A Polish serial rapist and murderer, was responsible for the 1997 murder of 12-year-old Katerina Koneva in Hammersmith, London. He fled Poland after being released on medical grounds while awaiting trial for the rape of a 10-year-old girl and entered the UK illegally. Kunowski was apprehended in 2002 after attempting to rape a 21-year-old Korean student, leading to the discovery of his DNA on Katerina’s clothing. He was convicted of murder in 2004 and sentenced to a whole life order, meaning he would never be eligible for parole. He died in prison on 23 September 2009.

Sorry Eddie but you're just wrong. They were a problem and they would still be one. They act the same way the pakis do. The polish gangs went to war with the paki gangs over prostitution and drug territory.

 

[HairyBadger]

They think and believe exactly the same thing because they all went to the same schools, same universities, the same university towns, all attend the same social functions and embedded themselves with people exactly like them in organistations and institutions captured by people with precisely the same identical opinions.

It's time for a reckoning in the Civil Service.

 

[EddyRooney]

You do not accidentally import millions of people from across the globe. How could it be accidental?

I don't normally care about stickers but why did you rate my comment on the Polish dumb? My home town was infested with them the same way it is pakis and blacks now. They had 5 phone repair shops on the high street that never had customers. They were often involved in organized crime and drug dealing and those who weren't still lived 20 to a house and sent all the money back to Poland.

They were just as much a drain as the current lot. Brexit just changed which gangs were allowed to operate here as far as I've seen. Drugs, prostitution and violence are a problem with every foreign group able to move here on mass. No good people come here, they have no reason to want to. The people who live here don't even want to be here.

How can I put this politely without being condescending ? I think you're tired.
If you read my original comment below the Youtube link to Starkey, I am quoting someone claiming to be from the Civil Service, in reply to Hairy Badger's original question about how the Civil Service seem to structure, create and enact policy, regardless of who is in "power". I thought it might be insightful to read what somebody on the inside of the organisation wrote. So in terms of you questioning this, you would have to take it up with them. Although they do clearly say it is NO accident.

Whilst I generally agree with your final paragraph, I would argue that there are some foreign individuals that do add value - possibly the bar should be set higher in terms of what you earn to encourage the more professional people who clearly aren't criminals to come ( without choking the opportunity of the idigenous population to do the jobs as clearly seems to have happened in the NHS ).

Sorry Eddie but you're just wrong. They were a problem and they would still be one. They act the same way the pakis do. The polish gangs went to war with the paki gangs over prostitution and drug territory.

To quote your good self -

"They were 'white' but caused just as many problems as the other groups of foreigners did." If you honestly think that the Poles are as much of a problem as an the invading brown army is...you are a retard. It is nothing like the same scale and that's just for starters. One is a bunch of criminals, the other is an invading army coming to fundamentally change our way of life.

 

[HairyBadger]

Not much in details yet, but BBC is reporting that Met Police launch criminal investigation into Mandelson

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clynp40ekrdt?post=asset%3Ad697fa6f-b716-499d-835c-0bcb7158f123#post

Will go no where. All involved are corrupt.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Poles are racist and love border control, as long as it's not for them. But the enemy of my enemy is my ally for now. They're also going back in droves, allegedly, because Warsaw is so much more nicer than Walsall.

Full list of candidates for Gorton and Denton
Labour - Angeliki Stogia
Reform UK - Matt Goodwin
Green Party - Hannah Spencer
Conservatives - Charlotte Cadden
Lib Dem - Jackie Pearcey
Social Democrat Party - Sebastian Moore
Libertarians - Dan Clarke
Advance UK - Nick Buckley
Monster Raving Loony Party - Sir Oink A-Lot
Rejoin EU - Joseph O'Meachair
Communist League - Hugo Wils
Your Party is abstaining to 'prevent vote split'. Good to see the other lefties don't agree with that

 

[Kofi Drinka]

"They were 'white' but caused just as many problems as the other groups of foreigners did." If you honestly think that the Poles are as much of a problem as an the invading brown army is...you are a retard. It is nothing like the same scale and that's just for starters. One is a bunch of criminals, the other is an invading army coming to fundamentally change our way of life.

They are just as much as a problem because they fundamentally do change your life. Your kids and wife cannot walk the streets safely when there are polish drug gangs every where. I've seen paki pimps escorting young girls around the same way I've seen Polish pimps doing it. They were illegally smuggling in hundreds of their own people, the exact same way the Pakis do.

They are both an invading army. There isn't a difference and it's especially not a difference when you realize Polish women are the biggest race mixers on the planet. They would fuck the pakis and blacks to get pregnant and have a baby here. They were helping to breed the foreigners we're dealing with now.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

FYI, she is a a member of the LGB Alliance which is basically a "get the trannies out of our movement" organisation.

Unlikely to win, wonder if the Tories have fielded her in the hope the TRA's come out the woodwork to do their usual excellent behaviour and provide footage for the tabloids.