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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Fifth man, 19, is arrested over Keir Starmer arson attacks in north London

Wild how that arson gets examined by police until the very last shred of evidence has been found and perpetrators nicked.

Arson anywhere else in the U.K.? Lol, the police are busy with arresting old ladies for saying women don’t have dicks, sorry mate.

Every black England player took opportunities from an indigenous Briton.

Was pondering this earlier today after my club signed yet another foreign player. It’s not even good for the game in other countries, when they lose their best players to come play in England. I miss the three forruns rule. It feels like way too many British kids are hoofed out of football and replaced by nippy foreign kids. So Ingerlund might not have the very bestest (most fucking paid for) top division in the world any more? So what. I want to see British kids get the very best opportunities, as well as the cash cow of the top Premier League sides being put out to pasture. It’d benefit the entire football pyramid here too.

But that’s racist, so I’m told.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Oh, those 60 business experts he took, not even one deal.

Why would they need to make a deal? Every single one of them worked for a chinese subsidiary.

He used a screwdriver to stab a 23 year old woman through the brain, for fucks sake.

I was against the death penalty when I was in my 20s. I've had a lot of time to think about it since then.

I’m now convinced that only one man could have saved this country.

One of the few things we still do is make helicopters.

 

[Overly Serious]

A Black patriot who pays tax and supports Reform UK deserves my support and respect - he or she is an ally in the cause. There's more than a few Blacks and Asians who are patriotic and care more than White Traitors and Liberals - the Gurkha's, for instance, are more British than any Guardian reader.

I'm kind of with you in that I'll take someone who supports the country and my values over someone who believes things I abhor anyday. Is there anyone who would seriously rather be mates with a nonce over some decent person who'll stand by you when the shit goes down because the nonce was White and the decent person was Black? That's idiocy and I'm entirely comfortable saying I'm against such nonsense. We all make judgements based on who individuals are and we all should make such judgements. And to the wags who say they choose neither well you don't get that option. You have to make that choice every day existing in modern Society, that's reality.

Where I'm afraid I differ from you is that I don't necessarily agree that voting Reform is supporting my country. And it's not because they're insufficiently racist. It's because I see them kick out good people because they don't fall in line under Farage. Or more accurately the Establishment campaign management team that jumped over from Conservative Head Office at his invitation.

 

[Clem Fandango]

I was against the death penalty when I was in my 20s. I've had a lot of time to think about it since then.

All you have to do is show me that bill for his 29 year incarceration.as a tax payer, I don't want to fund that shit.

New policy, from now on you only get to go to prison if you fund it yourself. We can work out the details in due course, but the bottom line should be if you're not able or willing to pay for 29 years of prison cell rent, meals and guards salary, then you've just gotta go.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Do I have a problem with all Blacks and Asians - only those who misbehave and cause us problems.

A Black patriot who pays tax and supports Reform UK deserves my support and respect - he or she is an ally in the cause.

Well, there it is.gif

I'd kick out the likes of Owen Jones before even people like Rishi Sunak. Sunak, at least, has his uses and was a decent Chancellor to give him some dues. What has Owen ever done apart from sperg out on the daily about how unfair his life is and that Margaret Thatcher still gives him nightmares?

Be white. That's the qualifier

And everyone clapped!

The paki gave me a dirty look because I watching him and his filthy mongrol mates like a hawk.

Every black England player took opportunities from an indigenous Briton.

'English' teams that are 90% back make me sick and should have points docked. One of the London clubs, Crystal Palace maybe? is just afcon in one team.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Edit: not sure why my previous comment was posted again.

All you have to do is show me that bill for his 29 year incarceration.as a tax payer, I don't want to fund that shit.

New policy, from now on you only get to go to prison if you fund it yourself. We can work out the details in due course, but the bottom line should be if you're not able or willing to pay for 29 years of prison cell rent, meals and guards salary, then you've just gotta go.

apparently in the US a death penalty costs more due to all the legal shit like questioning every last bit of the trial and asking for commutation etc etc.

The answer is obvious, but profit generally comes first.

 

[Overly Serious]

All you have to do is show me that bill for his 29 year incarceration.as a tax payer, I don't want to fund that shit.

From memory the annual cost of a prisoner in the UK averages out at around £55,000 so you're looking at around £1.6m cost to housing him assuming he served his full sentence. You can reasonably expect him to be unemployable on release and with a high chance of recidivism. So probably higher than that.

The Death Penalty could even make money as I'm certain there are people who pay to be the ones to execute such people. Hell, I probably would if I were filthy rich and it were an option. Some people like to point to the endlessly drawn out process in the USA and the costs there and claim that the death penalty wouldn't save us money. This is wrong. I've written previously about why the US system is such a mess and it is to do with automatic appeals processes, their complicated layered court system from county to state to federal and district, endless mental competency trials. It's a huge gravy train for many invested parties. It's not inherent to having the death penalty.

For someone like this guy, you could probably sell tickets.

 

[Made In Wales]

I'm kind of with you in that I'll take someone who supports the country and my values over someone who believes things I abhor anyday. Is there anyone who would seriously rather be mates with a nonce over some decent person who'll stand by you when the shit goes down because the nonce was White and the decent person was Black? That's idiocy and I'm entirely comfortable saying I'm against such nonsense. We all make judgements based on who individuals are and we all should make such judgements. And to the wags who say they choose neither well you don't get that option. You have to make that choice every day existing in modern Society, that's reality.

Where I'm afraid I differ from you is that I don't necessarily agree that voting Reform is supporting my country. And it's not because they're insufficiently racist. It's because I see them kick out good people because they don't fall in line under Farage. Or more accurately the Establishment campaign management team that jumped over from Conservative Head Office at his invitation.

Fair enough and I've been vocal in saying that I opposed what he did to Rupert Lowe. That, to me, was not a good move but I understand that there are things we don't know (not even in the party) with regards to the spat between the two.

Overall, Farage IMO only, has done well - we're on the verge of potentially getting our ninth MP in a month's time and although I get and accept the notion that we're a 'dumping ground' for old Tories, well that's beyond my power as a small cog in a big machine.

If you don't wish to support Reform UK, that's entirely fine and I will always back your decision as well as the decisions of everybody else here. There are good local Independent candidates and I expect them to do well in the future as there's quite a few people who aren't for 'any of the above'.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Edit: not sure why my previous comment was posted again.

apparently in the US a death penalty costs more due to all the legal shit like questioning every last bit of the trial and asking for commutation etc etc.

The answer is obvious, but profit generally comes first.

That would need to be addressed, but as Overly Serious says it's not inherent to having a death penalty.

For someone like this guy, you could probably sell tickets.

Televise it at the very least. Have, say, four different execution methods that the public can text in and vote for (personally I favour Blowing from a Gun, even though it sounds a bit gay). It would definitely cover costs.

 

[Overly Serious]

Fair enough and I've been vocal in saying that I opposed what he did to Rupert Lowe. That, to me, was not a good move but I understand that there are things we don't know (not even in the party) with regards to the spat between the two.

It's actually not Rupert Lowe that I refer to though that's a great example. It's the purging of the ranks of early real grass roots supporters and candidates. But I don't want to rehash the whole Reform debate. I am not at this stage against Reform necessarily, but I am against Farage.

Overall, Farage IMO only, has done well - we're on the verge of potentially getting our ninth MP in a month's time and although I get and accept the notion that we're a 'dumping ground' for old Tories, well that's beyond my power as a small cog in a big machine.

He's done well politically. My concern is how much political success will translate into, well, reform.

Also, just FWIW:

I'd kick out the likes of Owen Jones before even people like Rishi Sunak. Sunak, at least, has his uses and was a decent Chancellor to give him some dues.

Rishi Sunak was not a decent chancellor. I think the last chancellor I actually liked and thought made sense was Kwasi Kwarteng and they got rid of him faster than Clark Kent can take off his glasses. Honestly, if you're trying to make some sort of "one of the good ones" argument to the thread racists, pick someone who actually knew what he was talking about. I don't know why you would hold up Rishi Sunak as your poster boy!

 

[Overly Serious]

EDIT: Ah, sorry - accidental double post. But this is kind of a different topic. If someone wants a bit of sperging about Death Row, read on.

apparently in the US a death penalty costs more due to all the legal shit like questioning every last bit of the trial and asking for commutation etc etc.

Multiple reasons, and that's a big part of it. From replacing tried, tested and quick hanging with expensive and dubious chemical cocktails and endless procedure, to the real meat and potatoes which is that in the USA a death sentence is automatically, mandatorally appealed and then everything is gone over again by new lawyers. The original lawyers are presumed incompetent and new evidence and witnesses are sought that were never used in the original trial. If this fails to overturn the conviction you can appeal this. After all that, the case often gets moved to a federal court and re-examined again. Then if that fails it can go from District to Circuit. That part is not automatic, but pretty much everything up to this point has been and referring it up to the Circuit court is also an option. During all of this, public money is being soaked up by the lawyers involved. You can also then appeal to the State governor after all of this so far.

The UK doesn't have a federal court. We don't have a chain of appealing things up from State to District to Circuit. We don't have to review things for compliance with the Constitution like the Federal court does. We don't have State governors that have to review clemency appeals.

Now if at the end of all these very long processes in the USA, the inmate is still found liable for execution then you can make an appeal for a stay of execution on entirely new grounds, such as the inmate suddenly being found to be 'mentally incompetent to be executed'. The "I'm sorry, you're too dumb to die" defence. Yes - a decade of standing trial and only then do they suddenly discover that maybe he's not mentally competent to be found guilty.

The entire Capital Punishment process in the USA is a very lucrative farce that pays a lot of people's salaries and pads the pockets of the Prison-Industrial complex which gets a guaranteed income for one more prisoner they can throw in a box, feed glop and literally borrow money against using him as collateral.

I'm going to repeat that - not only do prisons in the USA make a nice tidy sum on every prisoner but they can literally use the prisoner's incarceration as collateral for a loan.

90% of this crap goes away in the UK if you have a population that actually wanted to bring back the death penalty and (more of the issue) a government willing to do it. The Tories could steal a whole bunch of voters back from Reform just by pledging to reintroduce it.

But to the question of the costs, we literally don't have half the institutions that slow the process in the USA. Nor does the Prison industrial complex and legal cartels have as much influence in the UK as in the USA (too much and growing, but not as pervasive yet, thank God).

In short, the costs argument based on the USA is not a problem.

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

'English' teams that are 90% back make me sick and should have points docked. One of the London clubs, Crystal Palace maybe? is just afcon in one team.

I think I talked about my local English football team somewhere else on this forum, next to none of them are from my local area and half of them aren’t even English.
It seems to be worse for Premier League teams, this is the lineup for Arsenal, for instance.

Only like two players are English and White. At least in yank professional sports like the NFL most players are actually Americans.

There is no way in hell regular Englishmen are getting sufficient opportunities to play in an English football team.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

. Is there anyone who would seriously rather be mates with a nonce over some decent person who'll stand by you when the shit goes down because the nonce was White and the decent person was Black? That's idiocy and I'm entirely comfortable saying I'm against such nonsense. We all make judgements based on who individuals are and we all should make such judgements. And to the wags who say they choose neither well you don't get that option. You have to make that choice every day existing in modern Society, that's reality.

This is manipulative bullshit. I do not have to side with a nonce or a foreigner. I can side with neither. This type of fence sitting bullshit is why you're drooling over niggers waving a little flag.

Here's who I side with : People who are like me and hold my values.

There. Simple. Now you understand why both you and Welshy deserve the oven. You're traitors trying to justify why a foreigner deserves to be sided with. And they don't. There is no justifiable reason. You are a traitor to your own people.

I will state this as clearly as possible. Every based black man will have black children. His children will not be a based black man like him. They will have their own personality, they will desire their own home, they own children, their own school places, their own dentists, their own GPs and their own jobs. How many white people are you willing to sacrificed for your based black man? How many rapists and violent criminals do you want born on this island because based black man waved a little flag? I am willing to give no more resources, I am willing to have no more foreigners born on this land. You can see the problem right in front of you and you say "maybe we need 1% of the problem to remain. That will never grow like an infection like it did this time". You cannot leave cancer in the body and expect it not to continue to grow and destroy it.

This is a war of survival. It's Us VS Them. And if you're not US, then you're Them and you aid every rape gang, nigger mugging and chink dog butchering that happens here. They all have to go and any one who doesn't like it needs to go with them. There is no other option, there will never be another option. If you allow even as much as 1 woman to remain she will breed another problem you doom your grand children to deal with. I am not such a sick fuck that I wish to see my children and their Children have to live in a world like we live today. I never want them to have to worry about grooming gangs or black violence per capita stats. Not all British people are good people, but they're sure as fuck not getting any better by siding with the wogs against them.

I'm thinking we should change the thread name to "Wog lovers united (support our football wogs)" at this point. England for the English is not a complex idea.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

The proper covering for toast is a good cheddar, melted down with sage sprinkled over it. If you want to go full Welsh rarebit you can grate it, mix in some egg, brown ale, some chopped salad onions, just make this great big cheddary topping and bake the whole thing. Also, the bread should not be pre-sliced but something you can cut to an 3/4 inch thick.

Ok but have we considered just butter. Nothing fancy just butter and let that melt from the residual heat in the toast. Maybe some jam too, especially apricot. Idk who the fuck is getting the cheese grater out and chopping up herbs in the morning?

Other than the illegal boat-folk, what is the actual mechanism they are using to come here? What visa are they coming on? How do they have the money to get settled when they first come here? How are they able to find accommodation etc...?

Idk how trustworthy ye olde propaganda shows were about the methods of illegal immigration but I remember the like border control shows it would always be either in the back of a lorry or an overstayed visa, either a just normal tourist visa or a 'student' visa that would lead to a uni that they had never attended and were never actually enrolled at. Probably a fair amount of them are being used as mules too, hey take this block of cocaine with you and we'll get you in for free.

How does a third worlder living in the Congo Basin come to hear about my small town and the fact that he can deliver parcels or set up an African Wonder-mart with government funding here? Who is telling these people about these opportunities in these completely irrelevant provincial countryside towns/villages in the UK?

The other ones like them. They openly advertise that sort of shit on x country social media a lot of the time. Some of them are modern day slaves or just 'employed' by the traffickers, go do my work for me and I'll give you a cut of the earnings. Then they're all shoved 50 in a house so the rent is equivalent to £10 a month. They're probably not learning about some tiny English village in their country, they just know it's a thing they can do and work out the specifics when they get here. It's not like there's a shortage of 'charities' and 'mosques' to provide them with short term housing and food and help.

obvious human rights abuses and borderline slavery that props up their deliveroo

I still just don't get it. Like how fucking retarded do you need to be that you want some restaurant shit and you absolutely cannot fathom simply just going the next day? Who the fuck is out there so desperate for a specific type of food that they simply MUST have it within an hour? I just cannot understand the mindset of people that use delivery services like that. It's just american bullshit. Part of being English is just eating food and not caring about having the most incredible experience every single day. And who can afford that shit too? The cost of the food alone is expensive enough, let alone having someone deliver it even if they are on £2 an hour illegal somalian wages.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

I am not such a sick fuck that I wish to see my children and their Children have to live in a world like we live today. I never want them to have to worry about grooming gangs or black violence per capita stats.

Then don't have kids or move to a whiter country. People on here will cope, will excuse what's happening and will say "magic soil stand and fight". They don't know what they're talking about. It's not their fault, they're not ignorant by nature but because the knowledge and information is hidden from them or has yet to reach them.

Ask anyone who grew up in the late 80's who saw the turning of the tides, who grew up in one of the first areas of infestation. It's already over. This isn't dooming, this is just reality in the cold light of day. It was all over in the early 2010's, the chance to reverse course evaporated.

What we see now is the areas that have held off of infestation, finally becoming infested, 3-4 decades after ground zero. I know what happens next, people who have seen it know what happens next and the biggest worry was always when the infestation reaches critical mass. We're there. It's game over.

Here's what happens next; muslim PM, sharia law in all but name. After that it's either social unrest while the power changes hands, or a slow boil to white minority by 2050 (not a secret, the government have said this many times).

 

[Made In Wales]

Then you might be interested to hear, @Duane Dibbley that Islam might be about to go into decline:

Iran: Surveys, including those not conducted by the government, suggest that a significant portion of the population is loosening their ties to Islam. Some reports suggest that only 40% of the population considers themselves Muslim, with growing numbers identifying as atheists, agnostics, or converting to other faiths. Reports have noted a decrease in mosque attendance, especially among the youth.

Turkey: While officially reported as almost entirely Muslim, studies from religious organizations suggest that approximately 10% of the population may identify as atheists or agnostics, indicating a rise in secularization.

The Middle East and North Africa (MENA) Region: There is a documented increase in secularization and a rise in liberalism among youth in various Arab countries, with some studies suggesting that trust in traditional religious institutions is falling. Reports have highlighted a decline in the influence of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Jordan.

Specific Contexts: Reports have mentioned declining religious influence in parts of Iraq and Syria, particularly in areas formerly under the control of extremist groups where, ironically, the harsh imposition of religious rules has led to a backlash against religious authority.

Sounds like they're going to experience soon what happened to Christianity in the UK from the 60s to the present day - I just wonder if Islam will go 'woke' along the way... rainbow minaret's anybody?

Most 'Browns' I've met are not Muslim and are either agnostic or atheist, and they want nothing to do with Islam describing it as 'backwards and archaic'. They are also deeply saddened and angered by the rape gangs and want them gone from these shores as well.

Anyway, some Lucy Letby news?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/cop-who-caught-killer-nurse-33326216

https://archive.ph/wip/HBN2D

 

[FedPostalService]

Sounds like they're going to experience soon what happened to Christianity in the UK from the 60s to the present day - I just wonder if Islam will go 'woke' along the way... rainbow minaret's anybody?

You're describing the Reform shadow cabinet.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

that Islam might be about to go into decline

Yea because all the fucking cunts are coming over here instead. No muslims left in Arabia because they've all illegally immigrated to Birmingham.

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

Most 'Browns' I've met are not Muslim and are either agnostic or atheist, and they want nothing to do with Islam describing it as 'backwards and archaic'. They are also deeply saddened and angered by the rape gangs and want them gone from these shores as well.

This just means we have more lefties instead of islamists, awesome.

 

[Carbiter]

Sounds like they're going to experience soon what happened to Christianity in the UK from the 60s to the present day - I just wonder if Islam will go 'woke' along the way... rainbow minaret's anybody?

Not if they keep the having muslim immigrants imported. They ironically keep islam in the UK from adopting left-leaning social values because the new immigrants overwhelm and outdo any muslims who adopt this. That's why islamic extremism is worse in the UK than it is in muslim-majority countries like Morocco or the UAE (the stable muslim countries, that is).