UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[FedPostalService]

I should have prefaced this by saying both of us are American. He thinks everything going on in the west in general with regards to the right or right leaning ideologies rising is because of twitter and russia so

Get out of the King’s Greggs thread, traitor.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

LABOUR PULLED THE CHAGOS BILL VOTE.


Via Priti Patel. It seems the Tories pulled a three line whip and Labour became certain the Bill would fail.

Breaking news on CHAGOS. In the face of relentless Conservative pressure, Labour have pulled their shameful Chagos Surrender Bill from Monday’s House of Lords order paper.
This is a major victory for everyone standing against Keir Starmer’s disgraceful Chagos Surrender.
The deal, which hands British sovereign territory and £35 billion to an ally of China, should be dropped altogether. The Conservatives will continue to fight the surrender every step of the way.

Seriously is this the 4th, or 5th serious U-turn in recent weeks?

 

[the rat]

Does anyone have any hard evidence that I can present to a friend of mine? He thinks that the UK's recent protests against migrants have all been caused by social media and that people are being indoctrinated against Muslims. He thinks it's both social media and the Russians trying to cause problems, instead of the government trying to replace it's native british population and ignoring it's citizens problems.

Rotherham:

• https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a8152f4ed915d74e33fd945/46966_Report_of_Inspection_of_Rotherham_WEB.pdf (Casey report)
• https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...e-independent-inquiry-into-child-sexual-abuse (Jay reports)
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigations_into_the_Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

The general gist is that Pakistanis were the majority perpetrators and that while there were some Paki girls that were also raped the majority of girls were British (White not British Asian that is not a real thing let me make that so fucking clear British is its own ethnicity not a fucking skin suit for a real life walking terminal from the 80s or a foreign rapist to wear when convenient).

Migrant statistics:

• https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/channel-crossings-tracker
• https://www.gov.uk/government/colle...latest-release-on-stat-xplore-and-data-tables (a lot of these migrants are also likely being helped through NGOs so they wouldn't appear on these statistics)
• there was a migrant tracker for where they're staying but @Crunkle has been too busy ogling at glow in the dark tits so unfortunately the site is down. https://kiwifarms.st/threads/uk-migrant-crime-tracker-development-thread.226251/page-6#post-23247778 if you're interested in the data however since he did release a backup of the SQL database.

If I recall there was a YouTube channel that went around some of these hotels but I couldn't remember the name, perhaps someone else here does? On the topic of hotels though, the current Government statement is that they are planning on removing the foreigners (who crossed the border illegally) from hotels by........ putting them in active military camps instead of deportation. THANK YOU SHAFAGNA MAHMUD.

The government is thinking about islamaphobia (blasphemy) laws instead of listening to the majority public and deporting those of Muslim faith while exclaiming how we have a rich history of free speech.

Spoiler: Ministers finalising definition of anti-Muslim hatred

The government is considering a draft definition of anti-Muslim hatred which does not include the term "Islamophobia".

The BBC has seen the form of words from the Islamophobia/Anti-Muslim hatred working group, which the government has taken to stakeholders for consultation.

Free speech campaigners have expressed concerns that protections for "Islamophobia" would mean it would not be possible to criticise the religion itself.

Members of the working group argue the definition protects individuals while avoiding overreach.
A working group was established in February to provide the government with a working definition of anti-Muslim hatred/Islamophobia.

They submitted their proposal to the government in October.

The definition will be non-statutory, meaning it is not set in law or legally binding, but will provide a form of words public bodies can adopt.

It provides guidance to the government and other bodies on what constitutes unacceptable treatment of Muslims, aiming to help them better understand and quantify prejudice and hate crimes against this group.

The draft definition is: "Anti-Muslim hostility is engaging in or encouraging criminal acts, including acts of violence, vandalism of property, and harassment and intimidation whether physical, verbal, written or electronically communicated, which is directed at Muslims or those perceived to be Muslims because of their religion, ethnicity or appearance.

"It is also the prejudicial stereotyping and racialisation of Muslims, as part of a collective group with set characteristics, to stir up hatred against them, irrespective of their actual opinions, beliefs or actions as individuals.

"It is engaging in prohibited discrimination where the relevant conduct – including the creation or use of practices and biases within institutions - is intended to disadvantage Muslims in public and economic life."

The working group met last week to consider changes from the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government.

The BBC understands one area of debate is around the use of the word "racialisation" in the definition.

Baroness Gohir, who sits on the working group, said their submission achieves "the right balance" by "safeguarding individuals while avoiding overreach".

"The definition also recognises that Muslims are frequently targeted not only for their beliefs but also because of their appearance, race, ethnicity, or other characteristics," she said.

"Including the element of racialisation validates these lived experiences."
The Free Speech Union is concerned that any definition of anti-Muslim hatred could infringe on free speech and possibly introduce a blasphemy law through the back door.

Conservative peer Lord Toby Young, the campaign group's director, said: "The definition is unnecessary because it's already a criminal offence to stir up religious hatred and unlawful for employers or service providers to discriminate against people on the basis of their religion or belief.

"Granting Muslims additional protections not extended to people of other faiths will have the effect of increasing anti-Muslim hostility, not reducing it."

Former Attorney General Dominic Grieve, who chairs the working group, is adamant the form of words does not remove the right to free speech.

Mr Grieve said: "The review done by the working group is within a framework that makes it clear that no definition of anti-Muslim hatred should have an adverse impact on freedom of expression under law including the right to criticise Islam and its practices.

"The working group has been mindful of this at all times in the advice it is giving to government."

A spokesperson for the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government said they do not comment on leaks.

"With all hate crime on the rise and anti-Muslim hate incidents at a record high, we are tackling hatred and extremism wherever it may occur," the spokesperson said.

"We will always defend freedom of speech, this remains at the front of our minds as we carefully consider the recommendations."

There was a 19% increase in religious hate crimes targeted at Muslims last year, with a spike after the Southport murders and riots that followed last summer, according to Home Office figures.

Labour had promised to introduce a new definition of Islamophobia, after the last Conservative government rejected a cross-party proposal in 2019.

The All-Party Parliamentary Group on British Muslims had defined Islamophobia as "rooted in racism" and "a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness".

Critics had argued this definition was too vague and could inhibit freedom of speech.

The new draft definition being considered by the government differs from this previous proposal, which was adopted by the Labour Party in 2019 when it was in opposition.

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We are a poverty struck country that is currently having its resources stretched thin, Kent has just suffered a water supply disruption on an Island where it does nothing but fucking rain, the NHS waiting lists are up to 7m compared to the roughly 4m+ in 2019 (before boriswave) no thanks to both the influx of migrants and their incest babies which the NHS just lovingly told us isn't that common between cousins (hey remind me again who is it that loves cousin marriage so much? Oh right! Pakistanis!), migration (that we know of) is at unprecedented levels and they're clearly not exactly good folk when they're either escaping from their hotel to assault schoolgirls or even beating the hotel staff up.

I am sure other people ITT can give you far more and likely far better showings of the problems with migrants in this country. You should get that guy to read the qu'ran and understand the teachings of Islam and then think about why something like that should ever be accepted in any country let alone ours.

As for Russians: you should tell your friend that this has been going on long before Twitter or the USSR boy band broke up; to my knowledge there are reports from around the late 40s early 50s regarding Pakistani rape gangs.

Part of the reason it's becoming such a hot topic now is because of both how fucked all of our services have become, the internet becoming both huge and easily accessible for so many people allowing for immediate information to a supremely wide audience outside of journalist (Government gagged) control and the unprecedented influx of migrants since 2021.

Russian infiltrators or not these foreigners are an undeniably legitimate strain on our country both financially and socially and there is no legitimate reason to keep them (they're coming from France, why the FUCK can't they stay in France???? Why a tiny fucking island that's just barely the size of California????), the British public have repeatedly expressed when they could the desire for less of them and have been consistently ignored by both of our largest parties. The foreigners are generally violent and do not integrate with British society instead usually choosing to keep to themselves and terrorise those they deem as outsiders which you might find as no-go areas or Birmingham. You figure out why people are unhappy regarding migrants.

I don't need some fucking outsider telling me how it is in my own country THANKS.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Man that's a good photo. Trump just looks fucking fed up of him. Which is pretty relatable. That is the face of a grandma who just found out you have an onlyfans or some shit. Kier's fucking cuck hand placement too. Looks like a fucking dog with it's paws on your table trying to beg for food. That's not feminine, it's not even cucked, it's just fucking strange. Have you ever seen a man do that before? Looks like a giant trying to play a child size piano.

problems with migrants

I always found these kinda funny. Pakis eating swans.
‘I wanted to see what it tasted like’ Man fined for killing and eating Queen’s swan | Nature | News | Express.co.uk
Curry chef caught by police covered in blood and feathers after killing swan is given suspended prison sentence | Daily Mail Online

 

[EddyRooney]

That won't make After Eights not shit

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I see the battle lines have been drawn up for the new civil war.

and finally monsieur, a wafer thin mint.......It starts at 3'50.

 

[diroama]

The shitty chagos islands bill has been 'paused' after Trump's change of heart, fears of a loss in a vote on Monday and the small matter that somebody noticed that the treaty with Mauritius directly contradicts an existing treaty with the USA.

A rare piece of good news and the best Starmer can do is forgot the whole ridiculous idea.

 

[Professor Donger]

I don't need some fucking outsider telling me how it is in my own country THANKS.

Sent all of this to my friend and his entire response is "it's all made up and fake"

his exact responses

Him: If one third of your population wants the other third dead, you have to do something to protect them, That's why I said it never should've gotten to this point. Social media should've been regulated a long time ago

Me: So... England needs to protect the Muslims they've imported, who are routinely raping and killing normal English citizens From normal English citizens? That's the solution?


Him: This is no different from the "coke raging black man" of the 1910s.Crime happens. These accounts and news sites are trying to paint a narrative by blasting you with every case they can find.

If you're being served information that "X group is almost all like this", you're in the first step of genocide: dehumanization

That's all this is. News media and Twitter accounts trying to get you to buy into genocide

Me:
...the bbc? And the actual British government research? Which I linked?


Him: The BBC did not publish any of the crime reports you mentioned.Nor is the UK government a monolithic entity. Ministers of any party can arrange such things. Even monsters
You've been propagandized into supporting genocide. What would yourself before social media think of all this?


Me; So these are just made up


Him: As I said. Any minister can arrange such things. Statistics can always be nudged to sell a story
Because crime happens among a group, does not mean the answer is to kill the whole group.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Sent all of this to my friend and his entire response is "it's all made up and fake"

his exact responses

Your friend is a retarded homosexual with prey brain and he should be ground into mince meat and fed to immigrants in the death camps. Politely.

 

[Professor Donger]

Your friend is a retarded homosexual with prey brain and he should be ground into mince meat and fed to immigrants in the death camps. Politely.

Your good, he's been pissing me off for a while

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Sent all of this to my friend and his entire response is "it's all made up and fake"

I've got a couple of mates like that. It's important o keep in mind that this is not their fault, that response is 100% the line taken by multiple news sources, politicians and more. We are in a stage of absolutely disgusting propaganda and the general public aren't popping onto Kiwi Farms for news.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

you're in the first step of genocide: dehumanization

If the first step in genocide is based in the objective observations and facts or statistics you sent him from the fucking government then uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what exactly is he implying? Idk have you considered that maybe just watching them dehumanises them enough because they sure don't fucking act like humans.

Buy him a one way ticket to Birmingham or any of the shitholes around it and tell him to stay there for a month. See how he feels after that. The vast vast majority of these types of people have never had to deal with third worlders. Lock him to a chair and force him to view any of the media from any of this site's threads on that sort of stuff, if he spouts the same shit afterwards then just make sure he votes for something retarded like the greens instead of anything that could benefit from his vote.

the general public aren't popping onto Kiwi Farms for news

Tbf I'm not either. I just want to take the piss out of whatever the fuck this country is without risking jail for it. I don't give a shit about 99% of the news, I just like being part of the white nationalist terrorism avengers, comprised of Gimli, some brown guy, a sheep rapist, a fart fetishist and the only remaining racist white woman in the country. If we put our minds together we can like idk say nigger louder than the average person or something idk.

 

[Professor Donger]

If the first step in genocide is based in the objective observations and facts or statistics you sent him from the fucking government then uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what exactly is he implying? Idk have you considered that maybe just watching them dehumanises them enough because they sure don't fucking act like humans.

Buy him a one way ticket to Birmingham or any of the shitholes around it and tell him to stay there for a month. See how he feels after that. The vast vast majority of these types of people have never had to deal with third worlders. Lock him to a chair and force him to view any of the media from any of this site's threads on that sort of stuff, if he spouts the same shit afterwards then just make sure he votes for something retarded like the greens instead of anything that could benefit from his vote.

Yeah he's an idiot, ended up blocking him because I'm tired of trying to drag someone out of a hole they just keep digging deeper.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Yeah he's an idiot, ended up blocking him because I'm tired of trying to drag someone out of a hole they just keep digging deeper.

Tbf I politically disagree with a lot of my friends. Even people that are on the same 'side' as me. I think in general blocking someone over their politics is kinda dumb but that certain liberal people tend to be obnoxious cunts and that's why they have their political views. I've stopped talking to a fair few people because the jokes and shit I say got met with the classic urmmm that's problematic type shit as if dms between two white men somehow cause indians to kill themselves because I joked about do not redeem type shit. Were they insufferable because they're sjw types? Or are they sjw types because they're insufferable?

Or could just be that I tend to not call people friends until they're pretty good friends and we're just talking about different levels of friendship.

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

Sent all of this to my friend and his entire response is "it's all made up and fake"

his exact responses

So he acknowledges the criminal activities caused my migrant groups but proposes no solutions, instead demanding we put up with it? Man, such a great idea he’s got me convinced there.

 

[Professor Donger]

I think in general blocking someone over their politics is kinda dumb

I normally try not to block people, especially people I've known as long as the guy in question. But we've been having issues for a while; he essentially called me a devil worshiper a few months ago (we're both Christians) because I support Trump. He apologized a few months later, but he's been poking my buttons these last few months, and his essentially saying that an entire portion of a population that thinks they're being replaced is wrong and indoctrinated was just the final straw.

 

[Clem Fandango]

LABOUR PULLED THE CHAGOS BILL VOTE.

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Via Priti Patel. It seems the Tories pulled a three line whip and Labour became certain the Bill would fail.

Seriously is this the 4th, or 5th serious U-turn in recent weeks?

Fucking hell, I was just talking to a mate I haven't seen for ages about this in the pub tonight, and Trump has felted me for the second time this week by the time I get home. Fuck you orange man!!

 

[femboy fart huffer]

he essentially called me a devil worshiper a few months ago (we're both Christians) because I support Trump

Christianity is about forgiveness and tolerance. Unless you support trump in which case you are going to fucking burn in hell forever.

I think trump is maybe the least Satanic thing you could think of. The entire point of Satanic influence is that it is slowly and subtly corrupting and subverting in silence from the shadows. There are many things you can say about trump, subtle and silent are definitely not on that list. He's sure as shit sinful and I wouldn't question if people tried to argue that some of his followers were idolators but he's hardly the Devil. If you want to talk about cowards hiding in the shadows, too afraid to show themselves, instead just corrupting in the dark, well, that's what blair's for.

So he acknowledges the criminal activities caused my migrant groups but proposes no solutions, instead demanding we put up with it? Man, such a great idea he’s got me convinced there.

You see it a lot in these sorts of people. They bring up 'oh white people do x crime too' to fucking everything, they'll ignore per capita and all that shit, just yep black people are allowed to do it because white people do too. They completely ignore the fact that the fucking black people are coming here to do the crime. They aren't natives doing crime, those are just an unfortunate part of society and humanity. Instead these crimes are completely optional and could be instantly stopped by simply saying fuck off we're full. They act like it's some great big gotcha moment that you care about black people crime, they'll say oh you only care about the grooming gangs because they're all pakis but you don't care about when white people do it. And then conveniently forget that time where for around and entire year straight the entire fucking country were absolutely repulsed by saville to the point of pissing and shitting on and damaging his grave. The amount of times someone has told me that I only think rapists deserve the death penalty is because I want to kill browns and then their absolute refusal to believe that I also think that white rapists deserve the same thing.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Fucking hell, I was just talking to a mate I haven't seen for ages about this in the pub tonight, and Trump has felted me for the second time this week by the time I get home. Fuck you orange man!!

can you loudly proclaim at the pub that Trump will never nuke Starmer into orbit? I want to see how far the Fandango curse goes.

Some of my mates are retarded lefties but are fine with me being a giganazi fag-basher. They tried to set me up some guy recently saying we'd hit it off because he was 'also racist'... not really something you can advertise for in the lonely hearts is it.

 

[the rat]

Sent all of this to my friend and his entire response is "it's all made up and fake"

his exact responses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigations_into_the_Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

Your friend should seriously read the Wikipedia page I linked + the inquiry documents.

To simply pass it off as "the media are trying to make it seem like le foreigners are actually bad when in reality it's #notallofthem ministers are fudging the numbers social media is le lying" as a fucking outsider is so fucking disgusting and a spit on the face to the countless girls abused by the scum we have allowed in for decades. READ THE FUCKING DOCUMENTS CUNT.

Don't waste your energy on people like him mind, unless you're into the long game of buck breaking people it will wear you down.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

not really something you can advertise for in the lonely hearts is it.

You just need to word it differently. No I'm not racist. I just have an interest in history and folk music, I love animals especially dogs and I love playing chess. Or just 'I prefer Stella'.