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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Anomalous Coward]

slaughter methods need to be labelled properly

The packaging should be like cigarettes and tobacco pouches. If you want halal, you should have to look at a picture of a cow having its throat cut, and everyone who sees it on the shelf has a right to know what it means

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Ever since the forced government lockdowns the food quality has noticeably dropped. I don't eat chicken from supermarkets anymore because it comes ropey and weird and slimy.

Thank fuck! I thought I was going crazy, as @Otterly said, vedge goes off so quickly now. I honestly don't bother buying fruit now and just stick to vedge. I will say American Chicken is not that bad, as I did a lot of meal prep out there, but we did get the more expensive kinds. I have noticed especially that beef quality has taken a fucking nose dive. I was astounded by the difference in US beef. In the states I could actually taste something. You get a premium burger over here, but it tastes of nothing.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

After Eights are awful, and I'm tired of pretending they're not. I'm not going to be suckered in by advertising saying that they're oh so classy and refined.

They're like a practical joke you play on someone. Ooh, look a delicious square of chocolate. Hang on, what's this weird viscous goo inside? Looks like liquid soap, or bodywash? Urgh, mint??

Vomit.

Tell me with a straight face that they wouldn't be improved by replacing the goo with caramel. You can't.

They were probably initially made to dispose of large quantities of minty effluent left over by some sort of industrial process. And you allllll fell for it.

Can someone from the mod team please ban this man?
Disgusting, offensive post.

 

[Clem Fandango]

We need to deport you along with Kemi.

That won't make After Eights not shit



Edit:

I see the battle lines have been drawn up for the new civil war.

 

[Jason_Cruiser]

Gb news are reporting that a Ukip Christian march was banned in Whitechapel. (Article archive)

 

[Overly Serious]

The BIG food talk at the minute is the banning of non stun slaughter, which potentially includes Halal and Kosher. RSPCA are behind it as well, tho not banning religious slaughters yet (i don't see the difference), but they are agreeing that slaughter methods need to be labelled properly.

An important note for anyone getting into debates on this is to be aware that there are two broad types of "stunning" and that sometimes people will try to pass Halal meat off as also being "stunned".

The type of stunning used as standard is a penetrative bolt gun that goes through the cattle's brain and renders it instantly brain dead. Whilst anything can go wrong on occasion basically this is the most humane method you can probably get (allowing for the conditions leading up to it not being traumatic which is true for all methods). Happens before the cattle is even aware it's being done.

This is forbidden in Islam because Islam says that the cause of death must be the throat slitting. Therefore whilst there's a fig leaf of stunning still happening, it has to be a method that the cattle would recover from. So it's more akin to tazing the cattle. Arguably it might make things worse.

And Kosher meat to my knowledge forbids stunning altogether but my main point is to make people aware of the gotcha about "stunning" not always being what you think it is.

Thank fuck! I thought I was going crazy, as @Otterly said, vedge goes off so quickly now. I honestly don't bother buying fruit now and just stick to vedge. I will say American Chicken is not that bad, as I did a lot of meal prep out there, but we did get the more expensive kinds. I have noticed especially that beef quality has taken a fucking nose dive. I was astounded by the difference in US beef. In the states I could actually taste something. You get a premium burger over here, but it tastes of nothing.

I've also run into what I'm fairly sure is Bill Gate's Apeel which is fucking disgusting and I'm not convinced is safe. The UK govt. decided that they didn't have to label foods treated with it because it's "natural ingredients". It turns fruit into a consistency which I can only describe as rubberised. I got some bananas from Sainsbury's once and it was like eating a sort of crumbly pencil eraser. I can't convey it better than that but it was distinctly unpleasant. I suspect Apeel is used routinely and on that day they simply got the dose a little higher than normal. But even when not as extreme I think I can detect it - fruit and veg which simply tastes slightly off, the texture not right somehow. I haven't bought bananas from Sainsbury's since.

Food quality in the UK has suffered a genuinely noticeable drop in quality in recent years. I'm becoming more and more careful in where I shop.

 

[Otterly]

crumbly pencil eraser.

It’s horrible and I think I can taste it too. A while back people were talking about the texture of fruit. It’s just disgusting. I get really annoyed when we get experimented in like with this and bovaer

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Food quality in the UK has suffered a genuinely noticeable drop in quality in recent years. I'm becoming more and more careful in where I shop.

Open question: how are we meant to solve this and the price rises? Beyond going back to the medieval times where we'd hold peoples kids hostages so they'd behave or outright executing the current Tesco CEOs and Directors in public? Do we have to start forcing prisoners to work on British farms? Focus on local/British produce only and tell people to get used to having less options but better quality and cheaper?

Ignore connected issues like people being retarded with money and people not knowing how to cook, how do we even begin to start getting food prices down and quality up? I'm genuinely wondering if we need some kind of 'Offense against The People' crime for corporations and governments and just start hanging with a stern 'now try again' to the new owners. I'm appalled this isn't like front page news 24/7 and we've just rolled over and accepted 'cozzy livs!!'.

 

[Otterly]

we have to start forcing prisoners to work on British farms? Focus on local/British produce only and tell people to get used to having less options but better quality and cheaper?

Energy and farm policy.
Cheap energy. If we have cheap energy we can have UK based greenhouses and heated poly tunnels. And cheaper machinery and processing and transport. All the net zero stuff needs to go. Concentrate on the sensible stuff - tha keeps soil air and water and ecosystem healthy as it can be.
We need to treat farmers properly. They literally feed us and take care of the land. They are vital and if we have to give them tax breaks and subsidies then let’s do it. I would much rather my money went to sensible conservation and decent quality food than most of the other things
Break the supermarket monopolies. Allow smaller scale cooperatives to flourish. Local food, with more profit to the farmer.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Break the supermarket monopolies. Allow smaller scale cooperatives to flourish. Local food, with more profit to the farmer.

The Yanks attempted to break the Google monopoly, but the courts shut it down. I hope something like that wouldn't happen here if we did, or do we just say fuck the courts and forcibly break it up?

Crowborough: A worker coming home from Gatwick Airport claims he spotted 3 Illegal Immigrants escaping from RAF Crowborough, reports are unconfirmed however the rumour is spreading fast and police did respond to an incident. Tensions are already high with people pulling their kids from school and the local patrols and protests that continued despite rain. Once again a lot of talk from locals about not paying council tax. It feels like everyone is waiting for the first enrichening to happen and for things to get really nasty. The migrants have their own GP on site, by the way.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Crowborough plans a protest Sunday, there are reports of demonstrations already and parents pulling kids from school due to the school busroute sharing a stop with the base (unconfirmed). I keep thinking about how the EU was concerned about the UK's military spending and how we're not doing enough, and Mahmood and Starmer just shove a bunch of wogs into barracks. I yearn for nuclear winter.

The labourists are probably confused about why people are protesting, because the developing consensus a while back was "they should be in ex military bases or something". Devil's in the details, though, and this lot don't do detail. People wanted them shoved into remote camps, not suburban barracks, so labour are going to act like they're trying to do what people want even when it's not what people want, and then expand the spreading of migrants into social housing under the cover of "listening to the people".

 

[Chunky Salsa]

The labourists are probably confused about why people are protesting, because the developing consensus a while back was "they should be in ex military bases or something". Devil's in the details, though, and this lot don't do detail. People wanted them shoved into remote camps, not suburban barracks, so labour are going to act like they're trying to do what people want even when it's not what people want, and then expand the spreading of migrants into social housing under the cover of "listening to the people".

The reality is that labour know that no one wants them, they just don't care lmao.

 

[BongoMongo]

The supply chain in this country is seriously fucked. There's way too much reliance on just in time logistics, because it saves a few pennies for supermarkets. There's no food reserves,last I read we have about 8-10 days worth of food in the country. And that's at normal buying levels, it doesn't account for panic buying and a run on stuff.

I honestly don't want to know what's going on with fruit and veg but I clocked this as far back as 2010. Spuds,you used to buy a big bag and stick ones you don't use in a pillow case, and they'd last ages. Now they go off in a week.

Some of the stuff I deal with at work makes me aware that it only takes one thing breaking to fuck deliveries up, and no delivery has a knock on effect because there's no back up plan. I've amassed a pretty good food store since I started my job because it honestly worries me how fragile it all is.

One big logistics chain which deal with lots of stuff,no just food, has got significant signs of financial issues partly caused by internal politics and change right now and if they tank things will get messy.

 

[2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious]

Don't know the best place for this (not quite tankie or Breadtube) but if true it involves UK police so I'll put it here.

If you're on X you may have heard of Eyup Lovely, Chapo-adjacent leftist edgelord with a green ogre avatar with the face of David Blunkett(?) Can be funny, supposedly got hold of Morgan McSweeney's phone number and asked him if he knew anything about "Keir Starmer having an extramarital affair and ejaculating inside his mistress." Keeps crashing out and talking about how he's a suicidal drug addict and they're trying to take his Universal Credit away (pays for a blue tick and seemingly gives hundreds of pounds to Palestinian causes), not sure how much of this is a bit. Has a podcast that I don't listen to with a similarly unstable gay guy who posts topless pictures of himself. Has a hateboner for Glinner which is about the only thing that unites him with the rest of the left, thinks Jeremy Corbyn is a "psychopath" because he's not anti-Israel enough. Beefs with D-list comedian Ava Vidal who he says raped his friend and sold her own daughter into sex slavery.

Now he claims a Jewish charity tried to phish his email, before he was arrested and beaten by the police "because a “neighbour” “overheard” me “threatening to murder [my] mother”."

X | Archive

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Of course I'm sure they have lots of bullshit justifications about efficiency, or saving all that paper or something, and they'll never admit it's because almost every new driver is an illiterate nigger or paki who can't work the machine.

I have had several times where I will ask for a type of ticket and not quite know the exact name and it just fucking stumps the driver completely. If I change the names a bit it's like me asking for a £10 day pass but the driver doesn't fucking understand what that means because he can only understand the specific writing on the machine that says £10 day rover pass. They never try to understand or ask either, they just stare at you blankly and tell you they don't know what it is. They don't try to work with you, they expect you to do all of the work for them as if I am meant to perfectly understand the names of everything on a service I hardly ever use. Get the mythical rare 1/10000 pull of a white bus driver and do the same and they'll just go oh you mean this right? I am not joking when I say I have had better luck with communicating with native Japanese people in Japan with no expectation of them being able to speak English. It's kinda like going to starbucks or whatever and asking for a large, most of the people there will understand you mean a grande or whatever the fuck it's called, aside from these people not only have no clue what that means but won't ask if you mean a large, won't tell you their sizing options, will not help you at all and just expect you to magically pull the name out your ass even though you have shown that is not something you can do.

Also on a note about food. Am I insane or does it all seem to go bad faster now?

Check your fridge temperature. Not the bullshit little button or screen at the top of it, half the time their readings are bullshit or those are just the target temperatures not any reading. Put a thermometer into your fridge and wait an hour, stick one of the logging thermometers in if you have one. And check the entirety of the fridge, check the temperatures of every shelf/drawer. If it's not that then I would be willing to bet the reason why is because your fridge is not full. Ideally both your fridge and freezer should have as little air in them as possible. If you do not use a drawer in your freezer then fill it with bottles of ice, water for your fridge. You want as much stable thermal mass in your fridge as possible.

But yea food quality has been real shit so it could just be that. For me the main thing I've noticed is apples. Precovid apples you needed both hands to hold the things, could barely bite them without unhinging your jaw like a snake. Now I can fit an apple in my mouth whole no problem. There's a few apple trees around here and their apples are always fucking massive compared to any of the ones you buy. I swear the current apple size is closer to the size of a grape than it is to an actual apple. Even though I always have the same few varieties.

After Eights are awful

Remember when you were a kid and you tried some of your parent's alcohol, especially if it was anything above 3%, it tasted fucking horrific and burnt your mouth and left you with the awful taste and mouthfeel for hours? After eights are the closest thing and adult can get to recreating that experience.

The packaging should be like cigarettes and tobacco pouches. If you want halal, you should have to look at a picture of a cow having its throat cut, and everyone who sees it on the shelf has a right to know what it means

>implying that muslims don't already know and enjoy it
The people eating halal shit know how it's killed and they want everything to be done that way. Stick photos of cows having their throats cut on meat packaging and the meat aisle becomes the local muslim goonspot. The people that I know who don't know what halal stuff is have just said oh that's the muslim shit I don't want that any time it's come up. The people who buy halal shit already do not have the level of empathy or care for animals that you have. They do not function on the same level as you. They don't care and never will. If they want their meat beheaded isis style then they can fuck off back to their shithole and do it. Reminds me of the cows in india compared to the west. Our food is treated better than their holy deities are. Never seen any underweight cow in my life until I saw videos from india.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I have had several times where I will ask for a type of ticket and not quite know the exact name and it just fucking stumps the driver completely. If I change the names a bit it's like me asking for a £10 day pass but the driver doesn't fucking understand what that means because he can only understand the specific writing on the machine that says £10 day rover pass. They never try to understand or ask either, they just stare at you blankly and tell you they don't know what it is. They don't try to work with you, they expect you to do all of the work for them as if I am meant to perfectly understand the names of everything on a service I hardly ever use. Get the mythical rare 1/10000 pull of a white bus driver and do the same and they'll just go oh you mean this right? I am not joking when I say I have had better luck with communicating with native Japanese people in Japan with no expectation of them being able to speak English. It's kinda like going to starbucks or whatever and asking for a large, most of the people there will understand you mean a grande or whatever the fuck it's called, aside from these people not only have no clue what that means but won't ask if you mean a large, won't tell you their sizing options, will not help you at all and just expect you to magically pull the name out your ass even though you have shown that is not something you can do.

I have a hard time putting the concept into proper words, but all I can describe it as, is dealing with a machine. Dealing with thirdies, is like dealing with a strict input/output machine. They are just fundamentally not able to properly take action beyond the very basic. It's why I hate working with them, because you have to herd and manage them over the most basic fucking thing.

 

[Professor Donger]

Does anyone have any hard evidence that I can present to a friend of mine? He thinks that the UK's recent protests against migrants have all been caused by social media and that people are being indoctrinated against Muslims. He thinks it's both social media and the Russians trying to cause problems, instead of the government trying to replace it's native british population and ignoring it's citizens problems.

 

[Overdrive]

I've amassed a pretty good food store since I started my job because it honestly worries me how fragile it all is

I've always had some amount of food stored for a rainy day as when I was a kid we went through times where there wasn't enough money for a meal every evening - curse of growing up in a mining town in the 80s/90s. Since the mid-late 2010s and covid I came to realise just like you how fucked we'd be if there's even anything more than a mild to moderate upset to supply chains so now I have around 2-3 months of food, water and other essentials stored away. I'd say about 1/3rd of it is stuff in tins which just sit in the pantry gaining dust while the rest are things I use on the daily/weekly/monthly that I just happen to keep a lot of.

That won't make After Eights not shit

I agree After Eights are shit, but mint is one of the best flavours and specifically mint-choc-chip mogs any other icecream flavour and I will flight anyone who says different.

 

[FedPostalService]

Does anyone have any hard evidence that I can present to a friend of mine? He thinks that the UK's recent protests against migrants have all been caused by social media and that people are being indoctrinated against Muslims. He thinks it's both social media and the Russians trying to cause problems, instead of the government trying to replace it's native british population and ignoring it's citizens problems.

There is an attempt by Russia and Iran to stir things up like this, but this is normies protesting.

Fat Baz is talking to his mates down the pub after Greasy Allan got lifted by the plod for reposting a cat picture on Facebook. Fat Baz and his mates dare not post how they’re not racist, they just don’t like them online.

Things are fucked up that spectacularly that you don’t need foreign interference. Normies are not only noticing but they are sick of it.

People overestimate how important the internet is.

Go down your local pub and ask people if they know who Turkey Tom is.

 

[Professor Donger]

There is an attempt by Russia and Iran to stir things up like this, but this is normies protesting.

Fat Baz is talking to his mates down the pub after Greasy Allan got lifted by the plod for reposting a cat picture on Facebook. Fat Baz and his mates dare not post how they’re not racist, they just don’t like them online.

Things are fucked up that spectacularly that you don’t need foreign interference. Normies are not only noticing but they are sick of it.

People overestimate how important the internet is.

Go down your local pub and ask people if they know who Turkey Tom is.

I should have prefaced this by saying both of us are American. He thinks everything going on in the west in general with regards to the right or right leaning ideologies rising is because of twitter and russia so