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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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On the one hand all posts to Reddit lie. On the other not as impossible a scenario as it should be.
Fucking nerd.
Admit it, you can't play chess because the pieces remind you of Warwick.

Social justice lecturer consumed by social justice.
A professor was suspended after defending a gender-critical academic from accusations of “transphobia” Prof David Gordon said it was in the “interests” of staff and students at the University of Bristol to hear from Prof Alice Sullivan after he invited her to give a talk in November 2024.
The Russell Group university’s LGBTQ+ Staff Network had claimed Prof Sullivan, of University College London, was guilty of “transphobia” and would cause “real and enduring harm” if allowed to speak.
But when Prof Gordon, Bristol’s professor of social justice, responded to their concerns via email, he was suspended because his manager had told him not to do so.

An investigation concluded in March 2025 that he had failed to “follow reasonable management instructions” and nine months on he remains suspended.
Prof Gordon, 66, is now considering taking legal action against the university.
“I’d like them to apologise for violating my right to freedom of speech and academic freedom, and not protecting me from discrimination,” he told The Telegraph.
“I think you should obey reasonable management instructions, such as marking. But being told to not discuss academic issues is just not reasonable.”

The talk by Prof Sullivan, who led a government review last year that demanded public bodies collect data on biological sex as well as gender identity, did not go ahead until October 2025.
But after demonstrators set off multiple fire alarms during the event and shouted “shame on you” at her as she left, Prof Sullivan is now taking legal action against the university for failing to protect her right to academic freedom. The university has denied the claim.
Prof Gordon first invited Prof Sullivan to speak at Bristol in July 2024, which prompted the university’s LGBTQ+ Staff Network to object, saying:“We would like to raise an objection to this event, which is giving a platform at our university to a member of the academic community who has been noted for her transphobia views and statements.

“This kind of speaker and event causes real and enduring harm to our community.”
In the complaint, seen by The Telegraph, the network accepted the event was “acceptable under freedom of academic speech” but said it signalled to “trans students and staff that their safety is secondary”.
Prof Gordon drafted a reply in which he said: “I firmly believe that it is in the interests of the LGBTQ+ community to engage with and discuss their views about sex and gender identity with Professor Alice Sullivan.”
But when his manager as head of Bristol’s school for policy studies saw the draft on Oct 16 2024, she urged him to “leave further communications on this with me” despite recognising that “some of the content of your email is very useful”.
Accusing Prof Sullivan of transphobia is ridiculous,” Prof Gordon said. “Universities are about debating academic issues and if we stop doing that, then we have little purpose in existing.
“Because academic freedom and freedom of speech are written into the university’s charter, because I’d organised the event and because my LGBTQ+ colleagues expected an answer, I sent it anyway.”

Two days later, his manager accused him of having failed to “respect” her “management directions” and on Oct 29, he was suspended pending an investigation into whether his “emails amount to a failure to follow reasonable management instructions or even bullying and harassment”.

The suspension blocked him from accessing his university email account and forbade him from communicating with any university staff or students, even at social occasions.
The investigation concluded in March 2025 and found Prof Gordon had disobeyed a reasonable management instruction but dismissed the claims of bullying and harassment.
Despite the investigation having concluded, the academic remains suspended on full pay.
“Suspensions are meant to be concluded within six weeks,” he said. “There is no reason for it to go on for years unless they are using it to keep me quiet. But I’m not going to be bullied into resigning or retiring.
“I may well take legal action in the end for violation of my basic human rights. They could sack me but then they would likely lose the case at an employment tribunal and in cases where discrimination is found to have occurred, there is no cap to the compensation damages that can be awarded.”

The Committee for Academic Freedom (CAF) is writing to the University of Bristol to seek clarification on Prof Gordon’s suspension and its implications for academic freedom.
“The length of Professor Gordon’s ongoing suspension is hard to square with a proportionate response,” said Freddie Attenborough, its research manager.
“And when it arises in the context of his attempt to address complaints from the university’s LGBTQ+ staff network about supposedly ‘harmful’ gender-critical views being heard on campus, the message to other academics is obvious: steer clear of controversy – and leave the hard questions to those least interested in evidence.”
Prof Sullivan said: “Activists make accusations of ‘transphobia’ against anyone who acknowledges the material reality of sex. Universities should treat this tactic with the derision it deserves.
“The idea that a highly respected senior professor cannot reach out to colleagues to discuss a contentious issue without management reprimand speaks volumes.”

During his 35-year career in academia, Prof Gordon said it had become “immeasurably” more difficult to explore contested subjects such as gender identity.
“It has changed immeasurably,” he said. “I’m so old and I have been in the university sector for so long that I have a quaint belief that the purpose of the universities is to accumulate and synthesise the knowledge of humanity and pass it on to the next generation, along with the skills to continue its advance.
“Now, it seems it is to make money and build pyramids. An idea has definitely emerged that if you criticise management or the institution, then that is a disciplinary offence.”
A spokesman for the University of Bristol said: “We cannot legally comment on individual members of staff or internal staff procedures.”

Anger against St George flags continues (I went with the Mail one because they had the best photo)


A Liberal Democrat council has ordered a landlord to paint over the St George's Cross on the front of his pub after one person complained.

Jerry Kunkler, the landlord of Moonrakers Inn in Pewsey, Wiltshire, since 1981, painted the England flag on his pub in 2016.

Mr Kunkler, Wiltshire's longest-standing councillor, repainted the exterior in 2022 ahead of the World Cup in Qatar.

But Wiltshire Council launched an investigation into the paint job following a complaint in November 2025 after the Grade II listed pub featured in a Reform UK promotional video.

They ordered him to 'bring the property back to its former state' following the complaint which said the 17th century pub looked like 'the headquarters of the National Front'.

In an email, Steven Jenkins, the council's planning enforcement officer, said: 'It has been brought to my attention that you have undertaken some unauthorised works to your property without first obtaining listed building consent.

'I must therefore request that the red paint be gone over/removed with white to resolve the breach and bring the property back to its former state.'

The landlord was told he was in breach of planning rules and has now been forced to submit a retrospective application for planning consent.



Jerry Kunkler, the landlord of Moonrakers Inn in Pewsey, Wiltshire, since 1981, painted the England flag on his pub in 2016

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Jerry Kunkler, the landlord of Moonrakers Inn in Pewsey, Wiltshire, since 1981, painted the England flag on his pub in 2016
Mr Kunkler, Wiltshire's longest-standing councillor, repainted the exterior in 2022 ahead of the World Cup

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Mr Kunkler, Wiltshire's longest-standing councillor, repainted the exterior in 2022 ahead of the World Cup
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The council is expected to make a decision by March.

Mr Kunkler, a Conservative councillor, said: 'I arranged for the painting of the cross up in 2016 for the football World Cup finals in Japan.

'Apart from the two years of Covid, the red cross has been on the pub for over nine years.

'Nothing's been said about it until now.'

Previously, Mr Kunkler said he thought the complaint received in November 2025 was because of the 'hoo-ha' surrounding flags being put up across the country - something he said the pub's flag had 'nothing to do with'.

He added: 'The Moonrakers Inn is a sports bar, and I support everything England and this pub has been a venue for all those who want to watch England play, whether it is in the men's or women's football World Cup, men's or women's rugby World Cup and Six Nations, and of course the men's and women's Euros.

'I'm leaving it up for the Six Nations and the World Cup.

'This is all about the controversy around the flags. This has nothing to do with Operation Raise the Flag.

'I have looked at the rules and if the Council says I need planning permission, I'll apply for it.'

The Moonrakers Inn, an inspiration for the award-winning play Jerusalem by Jez Butterworth, is on Pewsey's high street, and Mr Kunkler has decorated the inside for occasions such as George's Day.

He added: 'We have also held the jubilee here. I am a bit of a royalist I was lucky to meet the Queen in 2012.'
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When in doubt assume quangos are breaking the law. Just because this one is only confirmed to be doing so over toilets is irrelevant.
A Welsh quango has been accused of disobeying a Supreme Court ruling on gender by allowing biological men to use female spaces.
National Resources Wales (NRW) said in guidance that employees could “use the toilets of the gender with which they identify”.
But gender-critical campaigners said this contradicted the Supreme Court ruling in April last year that said only biological women were women under equality law.
The judgment has been interpreted as meaning that trans women – biological males – must be excluded from single-sex spaces such as women’s changing rooms, lavatories and hospital wards.

The NRW document, titled “Transgender Quick Guide for Managers” and seen by The Telegraph, outlines how line managers can support transgender staff.
Obtained under freedom of information laws, it reads: “It is appropriate for the individual to use the toilets of the gender with which they identify.”
The body, responsible for the “sustainable management of [Wales’s] natural resources”, says “all individual toilets” are “gender neutral” whilst it also has “separate provision for male and female”.
The document also encourages staff to apologise if they use the wrong pronouns for an employee, stating: “An individual’s name and pronouns are important to them and therefore should be respected and used.”
The freedom of information request, lodged last year, asked the body to include documents covering compliance with the “clarified legal definition of sex” following the Supreme Court ruling.

‘Cavalier approach taken to trans issues’​

Helen Joyce, director of advocacy at sex-based rights charity Sex Matters, told The Telegraph: “National Resources Wales seems to have gone the extra mile in appeasing trans activists while potentially opening themselves up to an employment tribunal.

“This policy exemplifies the cavalier approach taken to trans issues by many UK public bodies, with many sticking with policies that could have been written by trans lobby groups despite those policies now clearly being unlawful.”
Bridget Phillipson, the UK women and equalities minister, is under growing pressure to publish final guidance on how employers and public bodies should implement the Supreme Court ruling.
The new code of practice was submitted to the Government by the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) for ministerial approval at the start of September.
Susan Smith, from For Women Scotland, the campaign group that won the ruling last April, said the NRW document illustrated “the need for action from [Ms] Phillipson”.
She told The Telegraph: “As long as she dithers and delays, activists will continue to lie about the law and more public money will be wasted in the inevitable court cases.
“The ruling was crystal clear; the provision of facilities is based on biological sex.”
A spokesman for Natural Resources Wales said: “We will review our policies and guidance, and engage with our staff and their representatives, in light of the Supreme Court judgement and recent case law.

“We also eagerly await a UK Government decision on the updated Code of Practice for Services, Public Functions and Associations from the Equality and Human Rights Commission so we can follow the statutory code of practice and meet our obligations under the Equality Act 2010.”

Labour really cannot decide how much longer to stall out the new guidance, mostly because they know they're getting sued either way.
 
Basically, Farage argued the only reason Labour cancelled them was that they would lose, and this would oust Starmer and Babadook. Most of the councils had all their documents prepared, etc.
Yeah I get that (and it seems pretty transparent), I'm asking what Labours argument is for cancelling them. What reasons have they provided?
 
Yeah I get that (and it seems pretty transparent), I'm asking what Labours argument is for cancelling them. What reasons have they provided?
A bunch of areas are re-organising to combine district and county councils into new unified councils. (Apparently after centuries of working this way and with all the added benefits of modern communications and technology, the existing structure is apparently too difficult). A bunch of these councils (mostly Labour but with some token Tory and Lib Dem ones) are now saying that this means they don't have time to run elections. Literally that - they don't have time.

If that excuse is allowed to stand then given how disorganised most councils are I doubt we'd ever see a local election again.

EDIT: What @Chunky Salsa says is actually their mindset, I think!
 
Days pass playing just one game
Pakis play cricket. How is cricket allowed?

"They sit on the sidelines, quiet, doing nothing almost meditating to the idols of the three sticks. Such a game is only played by godless swine like indians, who have no real god and shit on the pitch. by allah cricket should be banned and all players beaten to death with the instruments in which they protect their idols, the sticks"
 
A bunch of areas are re-organising to combine district and county councils into new unified councils. (Apparently after centuries of working this way and with all the added benefits of modern communications and technology, the existing structure is apparently too difficult). A bunch of these councils (mostly Labour but with some token Tory and Lib Dem ones) are now saying that this means they don't have time to run elections. Literally that - they don't have time.

If that excuse is allowed to stand then given how disorganised most councils are I doubt we'd ever see a local election again.

EDIT: What @Chunky Salsa says is actually their mindset, I think!
Yeah, I think Reform are right to challenge this legally. How can that be allowed to stand? I can understand Ukraine not having elections during a war, but come on. This ain't the Donbass.

My missus has done poll clerking before, and when they call a GE they basically sort everything out in four weeks. Holding an election is not rocket science.

Apologies, Clem, I read your post wrong. So they are classifying restructuring as an emergency action. This is clearly not.

No probs, I could have just looked it up myself. But it's probably a good idea to occasionally post about politics in here instead of just ranking crisp flavours.
 
Chess players don’t have any time for anything else. Days pass playing just one game. There is an incident on record that a man’s son had died whilst he was playing chess. He could not leave the game, so he appointed others to see to the funeral arrangements. So much so that he did not even participate in the Janaazah Salaah!
- Dune: Bradford, Frank Herbert
 
Yeah, I think Reform are right to challenge this legally. How can that be allowed to stand? I can understand Ukraine not having elections during a war, but come on. This ain't the Donbass.

My missus has done poll clerking before, and when they call a GE they basically sort everything out in four weeks. Holding an election is not rocket science.



No probs, I could have just looked it up myself. But it's probably a good idea to occasionally post about politics in here instead of just ranking crisp flavours.
Starmer fears Farage beating him, and losing control in any way is terrible for him.

Labour are going to lose control of Wales for the first time in over 100 years in May, and they will no doubt lose Scotland as well given time as well as the North and Midlands.

Starmer also has a lot of his own MP's against him, possibly now including Reeves of all people according to Sunday's Daily Express. If she has had enough, it's game over.

Also, Starmer being made to allow the Council Elections to go through by order of a Judge would hurt his pride badly and I don't think he'd take it well at all - anybody who opposes him is wrong and gets the Urquhart treatment no matter who they are (from backbenchers to McSweeney).

People who are motivated to demand an immediate election aren't disaffected they're fully engaged in the political process.

They want a different government but that's entirely normal.

I'm sure you wouldn't expect another election a year into the first parliament with a Reform majority just because people don't like seeing women's prisons stuffed full of trannies, or because pork has been banned.
I'd support a General Election if Farage was not running the country fairly.

I support fairness before I support an individual or a party, and whether it's Reform UK, the Communists, the National Front or the Bus Pass Elvis Society in charge they have to work in the best interests of the electorate - for the people, never against them as Labour are doing.

I'm sure that you'd want a GE if the elected Government wished to impose on your freedom?

Edit: You know you're old when you remember....

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sorry, a bit out of the loop here. whats the deal with all the warick davis hate lately? i have no real opinion on the guy, but i see it everywhere now lol
Noncing little girls probably. Why else would he choose to be so short other than to blend in at a primary school and to look up their skirts?
So it'll be arresting people for nothing after hallucinating crimes
Remember a year ago when the police said they had started using ai facial recognition software and then once the backlash started it very quickly disappeared from the news cycle? Just saying the americans seem to be noticing some issues with that stuff so.
I'm not convinced it's good, let alone God.
Ai is like every other technology. It is neither good or bad. It is a big pile of 1s and 0s that has no concept of good or evil. It is as always the people that use it that are good or evil, ai is just more powerful than what came before so the scale of the good or evil is too. Already being used in medicine and that sort of stuff, specifically spotting early signs of cancer in a scan. And already being used to censor and surveil the masses. As a technology it is completely amoral, it just shows how absolutely evil politicians are.
AN AI-generated mural has been approved by a Scottish council, despite it featuring an American bald eagle.
Looks like shit. Very fucking clearly chatgpt because they are too lazy to bother colour correcting it. Literally every image that chatgpt generates will have this fucked mexico piss filter and if you're too much of a lazy cunt to go into photoshop and click two buttons to colour correct it then it'll look like this.
One replied: "I guess the planners aren’t judging artistic merit, but there should be some kind of committee in my opinion to filter out bullshit like this."
DING DING DING WAITER MORE PAPERWORK PLEASE MR KIER I CRAVE FOR MORE GOVERNMENTAL INVOLVEMENT IN MY LIFE imagine looking at american hoa bullshit and thinking yea no I'd like some of that where I live too.
Chess takes up a lot of time and makes the player oblivious of his surroundings. This causes him to miss Salaah, and to neglect important religious and social duties. Experience has shown that this always happens. Chess players don’t have any time for anything else. Days pass playing just one game. There is an incident on record that a man’s son had died whilst he was playing chess. He could not leave the game, so he appointed others to see to the funeral arrangements. So much so that he did not even participate in the Janaazah Salaah!
Islam is pretty English I guess. It makes sense. The nanny state and islam get along pretty well. Ban sugar because my kid got fat and it's the government's fault. Ban chess because I don't know what an alarm/clock is for and missed my daily rape pep talk.

Also you all have terrible tastes in food and crisps are mid unfilling shit unless it's prawn cocktail and maybe cheese and onion ones in a sandwich. Best drink by far is literally any -ade by Barr. Like 70p for a liter of pineappleade that's the proper shit. Sweets the best are either just normal fizzy cola bottles or those Barnet's mega sour blue raspberry ones. Never tried half the shit you guys were talking about idk sorry but when I was a kid I was too busy being a millionaire and getting laid to worry about pocket money and sweets. Also disappointed that no one mentioned custard cremes or bourbons or fucking shortbread. All of them are mid anyway just because they're so unfilling. The real top English snack or lunch type food whatever is scotch eggs.
 
They've all got to go back. There's so many Islamic countries if they want to live according to that culture. In England we play chess and eat bacon. If you're not on board with that DO NOT COME HERE.

Fucksake.
When I lived in the gulf we were told that we have to respect their culture and play by their rules, or we could be on a plane and deported ASAP, or in jail. There was a woman's jail in Doha filled with women who were pregnant outside of wedlock (sex outside of marriage is no no, as are public displays of affection [unless you're a jeet holding the hand of another man like a faggot while walking through the souk...MiW just came reading that])

When they come here...we must bend over backwards to 'respect their culture'. At which point do they get treated like GUESTS, many of whom are only in the UK because they are fleeing the 3rd world country known as France.
 
I'd support a General Election if Farage was not running the country fairly.
Well that's politics isn't it. What you think is fair isn't necessarily what other people think is fair.

Some people don't think it's fair that their taxes pay for other people's kids to have an education.

Others don't think it's fair that people can become millionaires.

But a belief that your personal dissatisfaction with the currently elected members of parliament should result in an immediate election, presumably repeating the exercise over and over until you are satisfied is just childish. And not realising the consequences of this for when you do get the fair result you want is just idiotic.

No system of democracy is perfect, but online petitions are far worse. Democracy requires losers, and right now you're one of them. If Nigel can stop dipping in his local mosque for new party members you might be a winner next time.
 
When I lived in the gulf we were told that we have to respect their culture and play by their rules
What was that saying. Something about an Englishman going to india to experience the culture and customs and how similar we were to them, we both cremate husbands and widows the only difference is that we normally wait for the widow to die first. And then coming to the conclusion that yea maybe not all cultures are as equal and valid.
 
Well that's politics isn't it. What you think is fair isn't necessarily what other people think is fair.

Some people don't think it's fair that their taxes pay for other people's kids to have an education.

Others don't think it's fair that people can become millionaires.

But a belief that your personal dissatisfaction with the currently elected members of parliament should result in an immediate election, presumably repeating the exercise over and over until you are satisfied is just childish. And not realising the consequences of this for when you do get the fair result you want is just idiotic.

No system of democracy is perfect, but online petitions are far worse. Democracy requires losers, and right now you're one of them. If Nigel can stop dipping in his local mosque for new party members you might be a winner next time.
I'll hold you to that.

I still expect the usual suspects to be butt-hurt when Nigel becomes PM.

No matter what he does, it'll be wrong and the party will be hated but that's life I guess.

It's about doing the right things, even if it means pissing certain people off.

Speaking of which, Starmer's allowed the Chinese Embassy to be built - and of course this won't prove problematic at all...
 
No matter what he does, it'll be wrong and the party will be hated but that's life I guess.
No, that's politics.

Im not sure what you intend to hold me to. If Reform are able to form a government following the next election with a huge majority then I'll judge them on their performance and vote accordingly at the subsequent election. Right now I have absolutely no idea who I'll be voting for.

What I won't do is whine about it being unfair and sign some pointless petition which does nothing other than demonstrate my ignorance of the Westminster parliamentary process.
 
I'll hold you to that.

I still expect the usual suspects to be butt-hurt when Nigel becomes PM.

No matter what he does, it'll be wrong and the party will be hated but that's life I guess.

It's about doing the right things, even if it means pissing certain people off.

Speaking of which, Starmer's allowed the Chinese Embassy to be built - and of course this won't prove problematic at all...
You made your own dead gay thread for Reform coping and astroturfing.
 
No, that's politics.

Im not sure what you intend to hold me to. If Reform are able to form a government following the next election with a huge majority then I'll judge them on their performance and vote accordingly at the subsequent election. Right now I have absolutely no idea who I'll be voting for.

What I won't do is whine about it being unfair and sign some pointless petition which does nothing other than demonstrate my ignorance of the Westminster parliamentary process.
A bit like how it's pointless for Farmers to protest over the loss of their livelihoods and homes, or that Pensioners shouldn't kick up a fuss that Starmer sent their Winter Fuel allowances to the Ukraine?

You sound like a Labour/Starmer fan and I am pretty sure there's a few Lefty infiltrators here.

'What I won't do is whine about it being unfair'

Yeah, right, I don't believe you and the other snakes on here.
 
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