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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I saw what Mahmood said, and Jesus fucking Christ. That Paki witch needs to be removed.

A white pill and a correlation of my prediction regarding Starmer and 2026, that being international isolation and pressures. Trump is seemingly going to veto the Chagos deal, even though Darren Jones said it has been signed, even though it is being heavily contested in the Lords. Graham Stringer, a very senior Labour MP and a centrist, is calling for backbenchers to add pressure tothe U-turn. I expect Starmer to U-turn on this next week, making it the 15th in 8 months. Nigel is speaking at Davos tomorrow, along with Trump. I think there will be some plotting behind the scenes. One of Trump's close friends, James Oar, is a massive backer of Reform and the Jenrick deal, as well as the Vance VP pick with Charlie Kirk.

I can see Nigel slowly directing the party more to the right to isolate the Tory vote, picks like Nadhir and Nadine are shit. With Braverman joining the party too, with Otherton, the direction of the party is clearly right-leaning. On top of that, I think with a clear base, Yusef will rage quit. Saying "the party is too right-wing, blah blah blah." The truth is, he knows he is not the heir apparent anymore.

With the Labour defection, I am going to say a wild card and say Wes Streeting. Why, we know he is very ambitious and does not like Starmer. He knows if he stands for Labour, he won't be in next. He knows the party is dead; he knows it will be a huge blow to Starmer and create a rift.
 
So crisp chat was nice, but drink chat is also something worth exploring.

1. Rio
2. Lilt
3. Irn Bru
4. Tizer

Everything else is a bit shit.

God I miss these things...and scotch eggs.

On another food related side note, a mate bought me back a star bar and a yorkie after Christmas. Wtf is this faggot excuse for a Yorkie that you have nowadays? No chunky, just a bar of average chocolate fit for cunts and nothing else
 
UselessRubberKeyboard said:
Not sure whether it’s lucky or a nightmare that AI is so unreliable at the moment. There could be a lot of lives ruined over false positives. AI is built on input and that input has every chance of being biased, too
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Depending on how you view "bias", a lot of effort goes into making sure that it is. If you just feed it vast volumes of data it starts to pick up on things TPTB would rather it didn't. Like the ethnicity of the grooming gangs. Then it starts to act on it the same way it would any other statistical information like sex, age, income level, parent's criminal history... Even if you mask certain data from the training data it starts picking up on proxies. Nobody in the Home Office wants their Golden Crime AI to say "Well I recommend we prioritise investigating this guy because he's young, male and his name is Mohammed."

Censoring AIs and preventing them picking up on things you'd rather they didn't is quite difficult. Given that every bias is a relative thing and that reality is the baseline, you could say than worrying about the AI being biased, they're deliberately trying to introduce biases.
 
Otterly said:
They need to put up gibbets.
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I think that still might be too subtle for them.

Now what would get AI instantly banned would be if it were smart enough to go through civil service data and statistically determine who was useless and who actually did the work. "High incidence of phrase 'user-centred' in emails, added 70% more MS Teams meetings than anyone else in department, applied for "Kanban Expert Training Course"... useless lump detected. Initiating firing procedure..."

You'd see a reversal faster than a cat walking into a room full of dobermans.
 
Rhubarb and custard, or strawberry and cream, boiled sweets were always soooo good from a traditional sweet shop (and fruit pips!!). One pound for 100grams or some such, amazing. The smell of those shops was fantastic, like a sugar atmsophere. To add to drink chat, I suggest Ting and original Ribena before the fatties ruined it.
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Kier Starmer said:
I saw what Mahmood said, and Jesus fucking Christ. That Paki witch needs to be removed.

A white pill and a correlation of my prediction regarding Starmer and 2026, that being international isolation and pressures. Trump is seemingly going to veto the Chagos deal, even though Darren Jones said it has been signed, even though it is being heavily contested in the Lords. Graham Stringer, a very senior Labour MP and a centrist, is calling for backbenchers to add pressure tothe U-turn. I expect Starmer to U-turn on this next week, making it the 15th in 8 months. Nigel is speaking at Davos tomorrow, along with Trump. I think there will be some plotting behind the scenes. One of Trump's close friends, James Oar, is a massive backer of Reform and the Jenrick deal, as well as the Vance VP pick with Charlie Kirk.

I can see Nigel slowly directing the party more to the right to isolate the Tory vote, picks like Nadhir and Nadine are shit. With Braverman joining the party too, with Otherton, the direction of the party is clearly right-leaning. On top of that, I think with a clear base, Yusef will rage quit. Saying "the party is too right-wing, blah blah blah." The truth is, he knows he is not the heir apparent anymore.

With the Labour defection, I am going to say a wild card and say Wes Streeting. Why, we know he is very ambitious and does not like Starmer. He knows if he stands for Labour, he won't be in next. He knows the party is dead; he knows it will be a huge blow to Starmer and create a rift.
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Despite being labelled as 'optimistic' I think that, once again, you're bang on the money and you can see the direction in which things are travelling at quite a fast pace as well.

20 days in to 2026 and a lot has already changed.

Streeting will IMO not stand against Starmer unless and until Burnham is given a seat (either the one of Clive Lewis or Karl Turner) but creating a by-election does not mean it's going to be Burnham who gets elected.

Meanwhile, Wales could be getting another Reform UK MS with James Evans being kicked out of the Conservatives.
 

Bid for massive AI-generated Glasgow mural given green light​

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AN AI-generated mural has been approved by a Scottish council, despite it featuring an American bald eagle.

A planning application was submitted in December to Glasgow City Council to paint an artwork on a building at 11 Elmbank Street in the city centre, which shows a rail workers alongside a building which resembles the Wallace Monument, Highland cows, and, inexplicably, American bald eagles.

Papers state the new addition would be a "tasteful" mural, which will replace the "existing ugly wall", with officers approved the application on Tuesday, January 11.
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However, many have took to social media to point out the artificial elements of the artwork, which The National can confirm is generated by AI.

"Is it just me, or does this proposed mural for Elmbank St look AI-generated?" the initial poster asked in the r/Glasgow subreddit (lol reddit)

"That’s a bald eagle. We don’t get bald eagles in Scotland," one person replied. Some responded that it could be the bots attempt at a sea eagle.

"Looks AI to me," another said, adding: "Not a great start. At least design your own mural to badly paint on the side of a building."

One replied: "I guess the planners aren’t judging artistic merit, but there should be some kind of committee in my opinion to filter out bullshit like this."

Another said: "I have no idea what the thinking behind it is. Might be for tourists who maybe lap that shite up."
The B-listed site is part of a sandstone four-storey terraced property, used as homes.

When approached for comment, proposer Derek Paterson from Balmore Estates Limited told The National:

"The AI-generated artwork is only indicative at this stage. Obviously, the eventual design has still to be finalised/refined.
"The keyboard warriors should calm down and focus on what’s important in life!".

The final version of the mural is understood to be created by an artist who has delivered a number of murals around the city centre.

He added: "The design will be based on the idea presented subject to some artistic licence/ input. Your readers (of which I’m one) need to relax. I’m keen to give a positive Scottish feel to the mural and promote all that is positive with our country, so the final design with be checked for authenticity.

"The mural looks a little cluttered in my view, so there may well be less items in the final option. I'm conscious you can’t please all of the people all of the time, and even then you’ll never please some people no matter what, but life is too short to worry!"

The mural is set to be painted this summer.

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Ly Erg said:
The final version of the mural is understood to be created by an artist who has delivered a number of murals around the city centre.
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Then they should show the design that the artist submitted. What's difficult about that? Nothing. So I suspect what they've actually done is generate the mural in AI like people think and are now just handing it off to the poor artist to reproduce.
 
Ly Erg said:
AN AI-generated mural has been approved by a Scottish council, despite it featuring an American bald eagle.
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These artist/mural things are 100% money laundering imho, that one that cost a couple hundred thousand and turned out to just be large coloured circles on the floor or something? It's such a scam
The windmill also looks like its missing a blade because they aren't an evenly spaced 3 blades, and fucking solar panels on the trees? That yellow tint all the AI 'art' gets is so ugly, its like everything is drenched in piss.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
Rhubarb and custard, or strawberry and cream, boiled sweets were always soooo good from a traditional sweet shop (and fruit pips!!). One pound for 100grams or some such, amazing. The smell of those shops was fantastic, like a sugar atmsophere. To add to drink chat, I suggest Ting and original Ribena before the fatties ruined it.
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There was a sweet shop in Portsmouth run by an old gentleman, all traditional and classic...sweets in jars, a quarter pound of sherbert lemons please and half a pound of humbugs. Thanks! A couple of paper bags and done!
Loved that place.
All sweets are some faggoty haribo or prepackaged disappointment.
 
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