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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Because these people don't actually look into the parasites that they praise. They only consume the optics that they spout. You can have someone who has been record doing shit that would get them scrutiny and they would ignore or justify it because their idol said the right words that they can cum too.

It's how George Galloway somehow keeps getting into positions he has no right to be in.
Have you seen the latest take by 'Gorgeous George' on FB?

'Being in Hong Kong- one of the loveliest places on earth - making some television appearances reminds me sharply of the madness of colonialism.
Here I am almost as far away from Blighty as it is possible to be, and I’m in Cochrane Street! Round the corner from Queens Rd!
I try to muster what conceivable justification there could be for white British people owning a part of China and enjoying their domination of millions of Chinese people for centuries. And until the recent National Security Law still imagining that they could dictate terms to a nuclear superpower nation of 1.4 billion people!
The biggest economy in the world being lectured by a state which increasingly resembles the Wreck of the Hesperus. About the running of a part of China obtained by force and held under duress.
Imagine if China bombarded us until we let them seize Southend on Sea and run it for their benefit and even when they agreed to give it up seek to dominate it for 50 years meantime. And hoping to spend that time subverting the sovereignty they had reluctantly conceded.
We’d describe that as madness, right.
Yet that’s what happened in reverse.
And all this in the context of an entire century in which we made war on China to FORCE them to allow our OPIUM from our other colony of INDIA to hook the Chinese on Heroin.
The Chinese call it the Century of Humiliation. Hard to call it anything else!
Such was the sense of racial superiority in the Britain of that time that it must have been literally inconceivable to Mr Cochrane in whose street I sit that the day would come when China under the Communist Party would be the most powerful country on the planet, the most powerful that there has ever been.
But today’s Mr Cochrane’s instead of seeking forgiveness and seeking to make amends hoping to be allowed nonetheless to maintain normal relations and maybe a bit of trade and investment CONTINUE to speak of and to China as if she were a Coolie. We DARE to call THEM a threat, an adversary even an enemy!
When the Anti-Terrorism Police held me and my wife at Gatwick Airport for 9 hours between us last year they had the gall to grill me about my relationship with China!
Terrorism was how the British Empire arrived in China. And how we remained there. How Mr Cochrane presumably prospered there. Got his name on a street there.
That a predictable slew of hostile comments will now ensue underneath this article is testament to the fact that many of our people are still in the grip of empire-loyalism, racial superiority fantasies and deep denial. Meanwhile literally the sun just rose again like thunder outta China across the bay.
The east is red.
George Galloway
Workers Party Leader'
 
then the right becomes split three ways;
until it destroys the right.
There are no right wing parties in the UK. The right wing doesn't exist. Reform isn't even right wing but if the uniparty media keep repeating the lie often enough, it becomes the truth in the mind of the plebs.

A true conservative/right-wing party in a white country would have no gay, strict immigration, no trans, harsh punishment of offenders, a better police state with more efficient enforcement and would push for the family unit.

The closest we have to a right-wing party are those that adhere to true islam.
 
There are no right wing parties in the UK. The right wing doesn't exist. Reform isn't even right wing but if the uniparty media keep repeating the lie often enough, it becomes the truth in the mind of the plebs.

A true conservative/right-wing party in a white country would have no gay, strict immigration, no trans, harsh punishment of offenders, a better police state with more efficient enforcement and would push for the family unit.

The closest we have to a right-wing party are those that adhere to true islam.
Let's examine this:

1) No Gays - some people are born homosexual, this won't work. Are we also going to nuke bisexuals and asexuals from orbit as well? X

2) Strict Immigration - yes, agreed, but we need this to be a national consensus and have to be able to back this because you and I know that the EU etc. will do everything to stop us ever having this.

3) No Trans - apart from those who transition quietly and don't cause a fuss, yes. Gender dysphoria is a real thing, but if you remove the 'marketing' of Trans as 'cool' then the number of Trans people will go back to what it used to be before it was all glorified bollocks.

4) Harsh punishment of offenders - we need a balance between punishment and rehabilitation. If certain criminals cannot ever be rehabilitated then fine, life in prison or the death penalty. For those who can, but need help, give them the chance to turn their lives around - a bad mistake at 18 shouldn't mean a lifetime of eternal punishment within reason. Maybe.

5) A Police State - hmm... a Police State which works in favour of the people, definitely, but not a state which is policed by the Government (even Reform UK). Yes, but how do we encourage people to join rather than leave the Police? As for enforcement, yes, but don't forget the legal system is what sends a criminal to prison (or not) and a reform of the law is unlikely to please most Judges.

6) A push for the Family Unit - ideally yes, but don't forget that for some people friends are 'family' and some parents can be absolutely horrible. We need what is best for all, and sometimes what I want isn't what a friend or neighbour of mine would want.

Anyway, Mad Welsh Gran kicks off at Parliament: https://www.facebook.com/reel/852782084302952
 
Homosexuals that are born homosexual; are just predators. Gays are not valid, or acceptable; they are either mentally ill predators or they are victims of said predation. Some people are born desiring to skin women alive, same thing.
 
Let's examine this:
I'm happy to break this down, friendo.
1) No Gays - some people are born homosexual, this won't work. Are we also going to nuke bisexuals and asexuals from orbit as well? X
It worked just fine for the longest time. You want to be gay? catch a plane to some gay country. Bisexuals and asexuals are mentally damaged and should be placed in asylums.
2) Strict Immigration - yes, agreed, but we need this to be a national consensus and have to be able to back this because you and I know that the EU etc. will do everything to stop us ever having this.
A strong leader to tell the EU, who we're not part of, to fuck off. Thatcher did it.
3) No Trans - apart from those who transition quietly and don't cause a fuss, yes. Gender dysphoria is a real thing, but if you remove the 'marketing' of Trans as 'cool' then the number of Trans people will go back to what it used to be before it was all glorified bollocks.
No. No trans at all. They're mentally ill and should be placed in an asylum.
The world pre-trans wasn't perfect but it was alright. The world pre-gay was much, much better. The difference in society because of the allowing of gays, trans and soon to be pedophiles, is stark if you lived through the change.
4) Harsh punishment of offenders - we need a balance between punishment and rehabilitation. If certain criminals cannot ever be rehabilitated then fine, life in prison or the death penalty. For those who can, but need help, give them the chance to turn their lives around - a bad mistake at 18 shouldn't mean a lifetime of eternal punishment within reason. Maybe.
You sound like a lefty at time, MiW. That concerns me.
Harsh punishment for offenders, equally across the board. When I hear of a drunk, drugged up driver with no insurance or license killing someone, only to get 4 years makes my piss boil. Murder is murder.

Shop lifting is rife. Even people who wouldn't have done it ten years ago are doing it now. Strict punishments are needed to correct the lawlessness of the country.
"Should we imprison a man who stole bread to feed his starving family?"
5) A Police State - hmm... a Police State which works in favour of the people, definitely, but not a state which is policed by the Government (even Reform UK). Yes, but how do we encourage people to join rather than leave the Police? As for enforcement, yes, but don't forget the legal system is what sends a criminal to prison (or not) and a reform of the law is unlikely to please most Judges.
Police state as in, strong, fighting aged white males who come from the community they police, who earn and command respect and who can dole out a good truncheoning to the local rowdy ASBO chavvy kids.
Not munjeeta and Isabella-Lizabeth the catty, middle-class slag on a power trip.

6) A push for the Family Unit - ideally yes, but don't forget that for some people friends are 'family' and some parents can be absolutely horrible. We need what is best for all, and sometimes what I want isn't what a friend or neighbour of mine would want.
I'm sorry, but we don't need what's best for all because that's a communist fantasy. We know what works for families, we have hundreds of years' worth of evidence of what works and what doesn't.

Modern politics of all flavours seem to have severe amnesia and a blindspot for anything that happened more than 4 years ago. Life was objectively better when we lived in a high-trust, anti-gay, homogenous, family-first environment. For the minority that don't like that, we have a modern invention called the plane. They can hop on board and fuck off elsewhere.

I apologise if the tone of this post came off as unfriendly. That's not the intention. I do enjoy sharing my thoughts with you and hearing yours. They're very innocent and a little naive, which is a great counter for me to read as I'm a jaded, bitter old cunt who has seen it all before.
Keep posting and stop being a pussy by disappearing.
 
Farage doesn't want to win. And if he does, I'm not sure he's ready to be prime minister. As someone said earlier, he loves the underdog grift. Winning kills that immediately. He's going to keep making dumb mistakes on purpose to ensure he doesn't win but can keep saying the left and labour are holding him back.
I've got a third theory
He's trying to win so hard that he's making the same mistakes every Tory Faggot has made in order to try and get elected
He doesn't realize the atmosphere has irreversible changed and is too boomer minded to see it
 
Fair do's Duane, I don't mind debating with you either - at least you and I will allow each other to have counter-arguments and not attempt to shut the other down.

Am I Left - yes, in the traditional sense of I have Socialist values and I believe in fairness and the right to free speech etc. This by default has somehow made me 'Right Wing' though...

I'm not sure that we'll ever be a 100% White Ethnostate, but that is just my take.

Telling the EU to 'Fuck Off' would result in a trade war (though I believe they'd love to go further) and also the UN would be viewing us as Russia Mk.2. In one way, fine we'd then be out of the UN but do you trust the UN to not want to wage actual physical war with us? Add into the mix the insurrectionists here who'd love to destroy us - it's not just those on the outside of the UK who are the enemy.

I am definitely with you re: Paedophiles - no way, and if Labour tried to mandate for them then it would be the end for them.

With imprisoning people who've done wrong, you have to separate your murderers and rapists etc. from those who've committed minor crimes yet still found themselves behind bars - should Lucy Connolly have another chance, after all she is a convicted criminal (wrongly IMO). Let's not forget that Starmer would rather you be locked up for abusing him than a vulnerable child.

If we do not give certain prisoners the chance to rehabilitate themselves, they will boomerang between being arrested, being sentenced and being imprisoned and that costs you and I a lot in terms of tax. Some of these prisoners had no chance and nobody to guide them (especially younger prisoners in the system) and as you've said you want the Family Unit here to be stronger and better - I agree, and a strong Family Unit means that there is less chance of somebody ending up behind bars.

Eventually, a prisoner will usually be released after a period of time, and then it is up to the already overstretched and under resourced Probation teams across the UK to look after them post release.

It's no good if this prisoner is just going to go back into society unchanged and unwilling to change his/her ways - it's then just a matter of time until he/she goes back in. By rehabilitating a prisoner, that is one less person likely to go back and sometimes you do have to reach out to people instead of building bridges and going 'no!' because a) we're again short of prison spaces, b) there's no commitment to build as many prisons as we'll need (and the NIMBY's are winning their planning application appeals) and c) we have a shortage of workers who could do necessary remedial jobs.

Life may well have been better 50+ years ago, I am more than happy to admit that, but selling that message today is going to be tricky for many reasons. The MSM will want any such notion dead before it has chance to thrive and there are some on the Right for whom it may be a stretch too far at the moment - we can't just bring the 50s/60s back tomorrow (and they had their own problems) but if we put it to people that we can have a happy, fair and British society again most people will vote for that over the grey and bland existence we have today.

You don't need to apologise anymore than I do for trying to be pragmatic. I get that it causes debate (sometimes more than debate with a few of the DM's I've received which haven't been that pleasant) but all I can do is to honestly tell you how I think it can be - maybe not how everybody else feels it should be, but tentative steps would eventually result in most people getting what they want.

It's a long walk from here to having the country and society we dream of, it's not going to be easy but one day my hope is that we'll make it there.
 
I'm not sure that we'll ever be a 100% White Ethnostate, but that is just my take.
This is a thought ending statement and I'm very sick of seeing it. What percentage do you see? What's the actual acceptable immigration for you? Because right now, even if we stop them coming in, they breed like rats and they will need to be kicked out. Getting all of them in the literal sense may not be possible, but creating a hostile atmosphere which gets 99% of them, or 98% of them sure is. They need to go, all of them need to go; but sometimes you can't get what you need, so you do as much as you can. What do you think we can do.
 
Am I Left - yes, in the traditional sense of I have Socialist values and I believe in fairness and the right to free speech etc. This by default has somehow made me 'Right Wing' though...
We have that in common then. I believe in strong socialist ideals backed by a conservative national identity.
Telling the EU to 'Fuck Off' would result in a trade war (though I believe they'd love to go further) and also the UN would be viewing us as Russia Mk.2. In one way, fine we'd then be out of the UN but do you trust the UN to not want to wage actual physical war with us? Add into the mix the insurrectionists here who'd love to destroy us - it's not just those on the outside of the UK who are the enemy.
We've had insurrectionists try and sell us out since the time of the normans, it's nothing new. The Un can suck my shit pipe and they wouldn't invade or go to war with us. As I said in my earlier post, our strength isn't something we discuss or harp on about, it's just there, in the background.
should Lucy Connolly have another chance, after all she is a convicted criminal (wrongly IMO)
Nobody should face prison for typing words on a screen. It's the most retarded belief I've ever heard people say and hearing it in real life makes my ears steam.
I agree, and a strong Family Unit means that there is less chance of somebody ending up behind bars
Eventually, a prisoner will usually be released after a period of time, and then it is up to the already overstretched and under resourced Probation teams across the UK to look after them post release.
Strong community, strong police. A bad night, a silly mistake and a rough up bringing can be forgiven and correct with a strong community there to give you a clout for being a wrong'un. For everything else, there's jails and asylums.
we can't just bring the 50s/60s back tomorrow (and they had their own problems) but if we put it to people that we can have a happy, fair and British society again most people will vote for that over the grey and bland existence we have today.
All very true and the hardest sell is to explain to people who were born after 2004, just what life was like before the internet, before the slop and before the IoT ruined everyones freedom and happiness.
Consider this though, in the years 2009 to 2014 the UK went through the strongest, strictest austerity measures since post war Britian, caused by a recession the likes of which we hadn't seen since then. Yet, under those harsh, financially brutal conditions, the average person was happier and wealthier than today.

How can it be that our normal living standards are worse than the worst austerity and financial restrictions in 100 years? If Reform want to hammer Labour and the (post Cameron) tories about wealth, the should use that. Or how Nigel was robbed of the brexit he fought so hard for.
It won't get brought up for obvious reasons, though t'would be nice.
 
This is a thought ending statement and I'm very sick of seeing it. What percentage do you see? What's the actual acceptable immigration for you? Because right now, even if we stop them coming in, they breed like rats and they will need to be kicked out. Getting all of them in the literal sense may not be possible, but creating a hostile atmosphere which gets 99% of them, or 98% of them sure is. They need to go, all of them need to go; but sometimes you can't get what you need, so you do as much as you can. What do you think we can do.
Ideally above 90% but I'm going on reality here, not what people want.

Yes, they need to be kicked out, but as many have asked before how we do it and achieve it is the question that everybody seems to know the answer to - except those answers need to be workable.

One such suggestion posted here was that we pay each migrant to go back and never come back - that would cost circa £300 bn. and not be popular.

We need a strong deterrent and sadly our military is fucked - we can't win a war against Russia and we can't stop the boats at present (there's also some in HM Forces who'd refuse to obey orders if the command was to 'open fire' on the dinghies). Therefore, we are going inevitably to have to ask Trump for help (assuming Farage can be elected as PM sooner than 2029) as we will not be able to fight this battle alone - the US can bomb the shit out of Sangatte if necessary, if we did that then whilst it would show some backbone and bottle you can imagine the global backlash.

Some might say 'well just gun them down' - okay, if you think the military can be deployed at present, then a fact for you - there's more seats in the Millennium/Principality Stadium than there are active personnel in the UK. If Starmer would let us have guns... (no, let's not set the alarm off in GCHQ...)

I'd settle for:

Whites - 88%-90%
Blacks - 3-4%
Asians - 2-4%
Latinos - 2-4%
Others - the rest.

If you want to let Nigel/Reform UK know what he should be doing, then there is going be an email service launching soon where you can send your ideas - as long as they are workable/doable with proof then they'll be assessed.

As I've recently had something of a 'promotion' in the party I'd be more than happy to post the link and if you think your policies are better then put them forward.

You're saying there are gay babies?
e: for the record, I don't believe anyone is born gay, and your assertion that they are is based on nothing, and tells us a lot about you.
Biologically, I don't know.

There's a belief that some children are born evil, maybe there is science to back it up.

Is it nature or nurture with babies/children?

According to AI (for all it's worth):

'No single "gay gene" determines sexuality, but research shows it's a complex mix of genetics, prenatal hormone exposure, epigenetics (gene expression), and environmental factors, suggesting innate components rather than a choice, with some evidence pointing to influences starting even before birth, influencing brain development related to attraction.'

@Goose the Redeemer When talk and debate turns into a screaming fest and threats being sent, then I've every reason to leave until people can grow up and be civil regardless of their beliefs.

It's as if some people either a) don't want to hear/see what I'm saying (in which case the 'ignore user' button is handy) or b) they actually want things to continue so that they can post about how shit things are and that nothing ever changes because really they don't want it to.

I joined a party which some people like, a lot hate, and others are indifferent to because I want things to change and I want to get at least part of the country I know and love back - not just for me but for future generations who can actually enjoy the freedoms I had as a child without being policed or coddled for having the wrong opinion. That's why I made the choice I did, there was none other available which could in reality make a difference.

Ask yourselves what are YOU doing to make the change you want happen - are you part of a political party or movement which aims to make things better? Yes? No? If no, and you think that typing on KiwiFarms or anywhere else on the internet is going to make Starmer disappear then you are mistaken - it takes actions, not words, to change things. Even talking with people locally may change their viewpoints, maybe they'll change others as well.

If you think that laughing at people who go out and try to change things and prevent the 1984 society which Starmer wants is 'gay', 'faggy' 'wank' and 'pathetic' then keep it up as your words will only inspire me to go beyond and even further to make it happen.

Nothing will change if nobody wants to nothing to happen, but everything will change when everybody wants everything to happen.
 
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You're saying there are gay babies?
e: for the record, I don't believe anyone is born gay, and your assertion that they are is based on nothing, and tells us a lot about you.
The last few days did really...he rage quit the thread because people were poking fun at him writing autistic screeds defending lord nigel after he hired another brown to his party, and he's back with several long autistic essays all about lord nigel and how reform is the future.

2) Strict Immigration - yes, agreed, but we need this to be a national consensus and have to be able to back this because you and I know that the EU etc. will do everything to stop us ever having this.
Nigger, what the fuck was Brexit about? Taking control of our borders. The UK isn't in the EU, and it had complete control of it's borders before Brexit anyway. The difference post Brexit is that the govt starting with that fat pedo Johnson, accelerated the amount of indians, africans and other various browns coming in.
 
we can't stop the boats at present
This is just completely untrue, the lack of stopping the boats has nothing to do with our technical capacity; the boats by and large do not get all the way here; they are escorted by French, and then UK vessels almost the entire time. We could - tomorrow - just have the naval vessels already escorting them simply let them sink, as the majority of them cause self damage to force a rescue and relocation to the UK once far enough out. It is exceedingly rare that they leave France, cross the channel and reach the shore on their single vessel. 90-95% (depends on the year) are intercepted, moved to Manston and then just set free like you'd release rats into a cheese factory. We could simply just...not let them go, process them there, get their country of origin from them or hold them indefinitely in some UN approved tents on an island out at sea until they tell us where they are from, then send them the fuck back. Send the country the invoice for the pleasure of doing it as well - though they likely wouldn't ever pay.

As for the rest, the primary issues facing the rescinding of immigrant access to the country are once again, about will. We can already detain people, deport people, rescind citizenship and simply remove individuals we do not want in our country without any cause beyond "Because we can". The government doesn't have to give you an answer when you ask them to explain themselves. We have access to multiple islands and even African states that can act as detention centres should we want to do it. The legal power to do all these things exist already, and where it does not exist defacto, it exists in principle as the government can essentially pass whatever law and policy it dammed well wishes to. The civil service would slow things down, absolutely; which is why it needs to be gutted, just like Blaire did, the courts might protest; so do what Blaire did and ram through your people. Replace the existing staff with ones loyal to you, restructure and work around those roadblocks. The roadmap to restructure the government to get things done already exists and was already done in favour of the policies we currently have now. The only thing preventing us from doing these things is the belief that we must adhere to the currently existing zeitgeist and structures. Which is why Farage is so useless.

I'll happily submit policy, but I know - and deep down you probably know - that it won't actually be assessed, because Farage has zero interest in actually reversing the rampant excesses of immigration. Am I supposed to submit my policies about kicking out the pakis to be looked over by a bunch of pakis?
 
@Chunky Salsa Then there's no harm in submitting them - also you can send the email anonymously via Proton or similar if you'd rather do that.
I will send in my manifesto to reform the same way I send it to all that ask: A cover letter with my face poorly photoshopped onto Oswald Mosleys body; and 18 grainy photographs of my illegal firearms. It sets the tone from the very start.
EDIT: Weird fact to go with the rant: In 2024 nearly 4'000 of those crossing illegally by boat were Vietnamese.

EDIT2: @Made In Wales
It's as if some people either a) don't want to hear/see what I'm saying (in which case the 'ignore user' button is handy) or b) they actually want things to continue so that they can post about how shit things are and that nothing ever changes because really they don't want it to.

This part I have to call you out on. No. no one is "Not hearing what you are saying." They are all hearing it, they are just saying you're wrong. It's not an issue of you not communicating your meaning, they just think you're incorrect and that Reform are useless. Saying otherwise is at best disingenuous. I also saw that comment about freedoms as a child! You're old! I can sense it! Your birth year starts with a 19! Confess!
 
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@Chunky Salsa Then there's no harm in submitting them - also you can send the email anonymously via Proton or similar if you'd rather do that.
They don't care about you. Enough with the Astroturfing and Reform recruitment ground stuff.
Jesus.

@Goose the Redeemer When talk and debate turns into a screaming fest and threats being sent, then I've every reason to leave until people can grow up and be civil regardless of their beliefs.
Nobody threatened you. Drama queen
 
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