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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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the rat said:
How are you all dealing with the weather, anyhow?
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My house is like being in the Caribbean because the elites don’t want you to know this but the black women are free you can take them home I have 458 black women I have the heating on full blast and the bill is a problem future me needs to worry about.
 
teriyakiburns said:
The grid's been on the brink for a few years, thanks to the loss of reliable production capacity for the sake of green. Peak demand was a gnat's pube short of total available supply multiple times last winter. I'll be surprised if we make it through this one without a cut.
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If the grid went, would it be the entire country at once or regional? Ie if London had too much demand, would only London's grid go, or would the whole country go dark? (think of it as, 'is it a parallel or series circuit?')
the rat said:
How are you all dealing with the weather, anyhow?
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FedPostalService must be my downstairs neighbour (a white guy with a black wife hmm) because he always has the heating on full whack which keeps my rooms quite toasty : )
 
the rat said:
I would love to help but unfortunately the heating is off to save money and I have too much shit in front of the radiator for me to consider it safe anyway. Basically the average winter for me :) matches my cold, racist northern heart.

How are you all dealing with the weather, anyhow?
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Boiler got fixed at the weekend, which is just as well as it's going to be minus buggering five degrees tonight. The boiler guy was a lovely chap from Mauritius, and I'm so grateful I decided to stop being racist but only towards people from Mauritius.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
If the grid went, would it be the entire country at once or regional? Ie if London had too much demand, would only London's grid go, or would the whole country go dark? (think of it as, 'is it a parallel or series circuit?')
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It depends. In theory, the grid is split into sectors that will detect an overload and isolate from one another to prevent a grid-wide failure, so if London had too much depand, it would only be London that suffered. The practice is a lot more complicated, as there is not a way to ensure the supply matches demand in any particular area. An overload could see one portion of the grid drop offline for a few hours or it could see a cascade failure across the entire grid, as sectors isolate from one another, causing new local overload situations, and power generators drop offline to prevent damage. The latter is what happened in spain last year. It also partially happened here in 2019, when a generator went offline and caused power failures across most of England and Wales. In that instance, theoretical capacity from wind was enough to handle the failure, but the wind wasn't blowing.

The most likely possibility is what is euphemistically termed load shedding, where they cut the power to certain areas for a few hours until the grid stabilises. They will favour preserving supply to cities over smaller towns and more rural areas, so the only chance we'll get of seeing London lose power is if a large part of the country goes down with it.
 
the rat said:
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I'm fairly sure it's not doxxing to say it fucking snowed recently, fairly sure that's the entire country. I went out and stomped through the crunchy frozen leaves too and it make a nice sound and it made me feel nice and happy inside. Then I got home and despite trying to get all the snow off the dog she still fucking left a wet spot on the carpet somehow. Honestly should just leave her out there, probably the only time she'd be pure white again for the next year with how insistent she is on getting filthy.
 
FedPostalService said:
So stoking coal is keeping you warm?
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*Checks to see that you've not made any trips to South Wales recently*

My predictions for the year:

Will Starmer be PM this time next year - NO

Will Reform UK win the Senedd Elections in May - YES, but it will be a close battle with Plaid.

Will there be a GE in 2026 - UNDECIDED FOR NOW - I am not ruling one out but won't count my chickens (unlike last time when I and many others in Reform UK believed that Starmer was going for one in order to stave off rebellions). Likely, but until it's announced, nobody can say for sure.

Will Farage be PM this time next year - (Hopefully YES), but this depends on Starmer losing a confidence vote which would bring around the fall of the Government.

Will Starmer call for a GE to stop a VONC in him - YES but only if he feels that he has no other option (it's his way or the highway, nobody else is allowed to be leader in his eyes). If a date is called, May 7th is possibly the most appropriate but he will literally have to be backed into a corner and be told that there is no other option and he has lost both the support of his MP's and that of Parliament.

Will Starmer's majority dip further this year - YES, but whether or not we get to Minority Government level depends on how many rebels there are and if they believe that Streeting or Burnham can challenge Starmer for the leadership and defeat him in a vote.

The cat is out of the bag with Labour, and all sides agree that Starmer cannot go on for much longer.

It's just a question of will he take the whole party down with him if he has to go.
 
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Heinrich Maneuver said:
Not sure what this guy's deal is, but he's all over twitter going on and on about the national grid about to fail.
https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
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It's looking a bit healthier this morning
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One interesting point is the output from open cycle gas turbines, which as the website observes are very expensive to run (uses more fuel, doesn't have heat recovery) so is usually only used "during emergencies in winter", and the biomass burners are running at full pelt.
I've got enough tins to last me a long time, and I've always got emergency cash, but a lot of people round here just use their phone to pay for everything. My debit card doesn't even have embossed numbers any more, so any shops that still have the old fashioned credit card imprinters as backups couldn't use it. A lot of people don't seem to consider "what happens if I can't use my card for purchases". You'd have hoped the outages with VISA or Mastercard last year might have wised people up, but it doesn't seem to have.

Although if I needed to pick up anything in a powercut I'd be headed to a corner shop. The big supermarkets can't actually handle a full powercut - they tend to shut even if just the network's down, because it's easier to waste a bunch of stock than deal with the amount of errors that'd come from untrained cashiers trying to do everything manually (which their tills aren't even set up for) - so no barcode scanner = no sales.
 
We're both off today, and are going to head out to pick up some bits just now,then we're going to get the fire on ALL DAY.

This will doubtless annoy the neighbors but I couldn't care less. One of our neighbors who isn't a jerk has a lovely little dog, and we're looking after him later and he loves the fire.

I'm not even a dog person but there is something fundamentally wonderful about watching a dog sleeping next to a fire.
 
AssignedEva said:
It's looking a bit healthier this morning
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Fortunately, the weather is easing off again, so we should be safe for now. The number of times we've been right on the brink of mass power cuts is ridiculous, but moreso is the blasé way the situation is being treated by politicians and activists. "But it didn't happen! That means it's ok!" is their default response. We're ruled and regulated by people who literally can't answer the breakfast question.
 
teriyakiburns said:
Fortunately, the weather is easing off again, so we should be safe for now. The number of times we've been right on the brink of mass power cuts is ridiculous, but moreso is the blasé way the situation is being treated by politicians and activists. "But it didn't happen! That means it's ok!" is their default response. We're ruled and regulated by people who literally can't answer the breakfast question.
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Storm Goretti is likely going to be updated to an amber warning soon, there's already a blanket yellow warning today and tomorrow for up 10cm snow and ice. Big thanks to my neighbour who isn't FedPostal for gritting the pathway this morning xx i didn't want to do it
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NHS News (x)- a NEW online service/online hospital is launching next year which will prioritise nine conditions and 'fasttrack' people to appointments. How is it being funded and staffed and where are these appointments going to be (ie at your usual GP or a special place?) who knows!
The new NHS online hospital service being launched in England next year will initially focus on menopause, prostate and eye conditions.

The NHS has selected nine different conditions in total for the service which will be available through the NHS app in 2027.

The service, which was first announced in September, will allow patients to have assessments, check-ups and follow-up appointments online and will have its own dedicated team of doctors.

The aim is to carry out 8.5 million appointments in the first three years – four times more than the average NHS trust.

But experts have questioned how it will be staffed and paid for.

The nine conditions that will be prioritised initially are:
  • glaucoma
  • conditions affecting the retina at the back of the eye (including age-related macular degeneration)
  • cataracts
  • inflammatory bowel disease
  • iron deficiency anaemia
  • prostate enlargement
  • raised PSA levels (not cancer diagnoses)
  • menopause
  • menstrual problems which may be a sign of endometriosis
The expectation is more conditions will be added to this list in the future.

No patient will be forced down this route though, NHS England said, as they can still choose face-to-face appointments.

Patients will have the option of using NHS Online when a GP makes a referral for specialist care. Instead of having a physical site, patients will be able to receive care from doctors around the country, directly through the NHS App.

Tests, scans or procedures that are needed will take place at healthcare sites close to patients' homes, while doctors review and assess their notes remotely.

The government and NHS England believe the service will provide quicker access to care for patients and help relieve the pressure on in-person appointments, helping to cut waiting lists in the process.

Health Secretary Wes Streeting insisted that "everyone will benefit" from using the online service, even if not using it directly.

He told BBC Breakfast that those choosing to go online may be seen more quickly, freeing up space for those who want a face-to-face appointment.

Professor Stella Vig, head of elective care at NHS England, said: "The NHS's new online hospital will see a huge shift in the way we deliver care, giving patients the option to have an online appointment with a specialist anywhere in England.

Regarding the nine conditions being prioritised, she said: "We know that these conditions can be painful and difficult to cope with so providing faster, more convenient access to diagnosis and treatments will have a real and positive impact on people's lives."
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Lot of social media discussions about how receptionists are the terrorists of the NHS who get to decide if someone's problem is worth seeing + how Drs/nurses time is taken up by admin and online shit instead of seeing patients.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
NHS News (x)- a NEW online service/online hospital is launching next year which will prioritise nine conditions and 'fasttrack' people to appointments. How is it being funded and staffed and where are these appointments going to be (ie at your usual GP or a special place?) who knows!
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Oh good, more re-arranging the deck chairs. The NHS is fucked because we have too many people, too few doctors, and the bloat of incompetent foreigns infesting it. The solution is to kick out the foreigns, train more doctors and encourage people to look after their olds.
 
Chunky Salsa said:
encourage people to look after their olds.
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Easier said than done. How many of those olds actually have a good relationship with their kids. I'm lucky that my Mum is great and I would care for her, but not everyone had a mum like mine.
 
Chunky Salsa said:
Oh good, more re-arranging the deck chairs. The NHS is fucked because we have too many people, too few doctors, and the bloat of incompetent foreigns infesting it. The solution is to kick out the foreigns, train more doctors and encourage people to look after their olds.
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The solution is that plus restructuring of things to balance mega centres for high risk actions with localised more minor care in a much more effective way. And a few other things. But it could be fixed.
 
Spud said:
Easier said than done. How many of those olds actually have a good relationship with their kids. I'm lucky that my Mum is great and I would care for her, but not everyone had a mum like mine.
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Yeah. It sucks for them for sure. At this point we're just staring down the barrel of multiple bad choices IMO. People talk about the 'magic button that fixes everything', but the issues that cause the big business hunger for foreigns won't go away because you just ban all the foreigns. We do have an aging population and "The Olds" are a looming nuke that is going to continue to absolutely devour the nation if something doesn't change.

Otterly said:
The solution is that plus restructuring of things to balance mega centres for high risk actions with localised more minor care in a much more effective way
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Minor care is one of the things that really pisses me off. There's a lot of things more urgent than the GP, but not requiring a visit to A&E. A lot of common child issues like ear infections, and sudden rashes are things that are 100% needing to be looked at pretty quickly, but don't warrant sitting in the waiting room next to 'man-with-knife-wound' and 'screaming heroin addict' (Both of whom are figures I met when I was waiting in A&E).
 
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