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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I'll admit that while it was irritating as fuck to have your mum kick off about you eating the Christmas snacks before Christmas (aye sure pal, we'll eat an entire fucking cupboard full of high calorie shit between Christmas Eve and Boxing day while also having an incredibly heavy meal too) it feels like something is missing without it, even though I don't actually miss it.

Although that might be down to the realisation that putting pressure on yourself to create the perfect television Christmas is stress for the sake of stress and it's perfectly reasonble to just plan a food shop like normal and grab a few little special extras. For me, Christmas is all about peace and quiet and having a few days of government mandated holidays to watch shit films, eat a lot of meat and chocolate and have some fancy beers.
 
News on the local boomerbook page is that the mosque on the edge of the town has now purchased the (somewhat popular) local pub across the road from it this last week. I assume they've done this to expand their space as the town is already fucked every friday as every brownoid from 20 miles around turns up to pray to the sky paedo and blocks the main road with parked cars. When I first moved here the most foreign people you could find in the entire village back then were the Greek family who ran their little restaurant. Now we're being overrun with pakis and jeets just like everywhere else. Sad times.
 
Overdrive said:
News on the local boomerbook page is that the mosque on the edge of the town has now purchased the (somewhat popular) local pub across the road from it this last week. I assume they've done this to expand their space as the town is already fucked every friday as every brownoid from 20 miles around turns up to pray to the sky paedo and blocks the main road with parked cars. When I first moved here the most foreign people you could find in the entire village back then were the Greek family who ran their little restaurant. Now we're being overrun with pakis and jeets just like everywhere else. Sad times.
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They likely bullied/warned the place into selling which is fairly common. They always come in with a large offer first and then if you don't accept it then your windows are going first. Seen it happen many times sadly.
 
teriyakiburns said:
We do have rules about them, a great many orules in fact, which is why Labour making a fuss about banning them is so stupid
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The complete and nonsense insistence on having wonderful standards at home whilst leaving the gates open to flood in all kinds of shit from abroad is what annoys me the most. It's the exact same (lack of) logic in the open borders argument, happy piggies are nice and all but but it's utter retardation to combine it with a free (to undercut) market too. They're somehow fine with protectionism when it comes to cannabis and cars but not food? Come ooooon.
 
evrae said:
Word I've caught today is that Labour are trying to work around the migrant hotel issue by stuffing them into HMOs (Houses of Multiple Occupancy) instead. Basically the houses that a bunch of students stick in once they're out of uni halls, typically.
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Made In Wales said:
Would not bet against that happening, especially as less students are going to University and Mr. Landlord has to get his easy money somehow. Explains why areas like Cathays (Cardiff) and Treforest (Pontypridd) have become more violent since the more darker skins have moved in.
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It was confirmed in September the government wanted to put ''migrants'' into student accommodation. I would not be surprised if it was ramping up. As thick as the british 'right wing' and public can be (sorry chaps) I do have hope that like Crowborough (a reminder they vote Green and are fairly middle class) people will find out and protest.

Wishing you Kiwifags a merry and blessed Christmas : )
 
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There's some good news to warm your black hearts.

Three of the 'hunger strikers' have given up after "50 days" after discovering nobody gives a fuck.

Also downy Greta has been arrested for a pro-Palestine march. It's a shame she's a Swedish citizen and will be booted out because it'd have been fun to watch her stew in remand for 18 months.
 
Some afternoon news?


Men guilty over Jewish community gun attack plot




Some people have left the church because I am a gay woman, says Archbishop




Government waters down inheritance tax plan for farms




Teens guilty of unprovoked racist murder of man taking food to his mum in Barry




Asylum seeker jailed for raping teenager in Elgin park




* Greta Thunberg arrested in London after supporting Palestine Action hunger strikers (enjoy Christmas in the Nick!)

* I know the dark arts of the Tories. This olive branch to Reform is a naked power grab - Ann Widdecombe

* Keir Starmer has carefully timed the King's Speech to try and save his skin. It won't work - Nigel Nelson

* Gene Simmons fumes 'shut your piehole' on ITV GMB after being questioned about Donald Trump following passionate defence

* Woman jailed after using dating apps to lure men into hotels before robbing them

* Mum BANNED from gym after objecting to trans woman using women’s changing room

* Ex-Tory councillor Philip Young accused of drugging and sexually abusing former wife with five other men in Swindon

* WATCH: Ex-Detective Kevin Hurley hits out at 'crime-dodging' officers amid plans to scrap non-crime hate incidents
 
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Heinrich Maneuver said:
It was confirmed in September the government wanted to put ''migrants'' into student accommodation. I would not be surprised if it was ramping up. As thick as the british 'right wing' and public can be (sorry chaps) I do have hope that like Crowborough (a reminder they vote Green and are fairly middle class) people will find out and protest.

Wishing you Kiwifags a merry and blessed Christmas : )
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You'd be surprised. The right wing in my area are deceivingly clever. It also sounds like the main organisers of the protests in my area got directly informed of the news too, so they might have insiders leaking shit too.
Hopefully they leak which HMOs have the rapefugees too.
BongoMongo said:
They'll be able to establish themselves,get a local slag pregnant and get a family life, and that, that is the golden fucking ticket to staying here forever.
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The main problem is the cheap housing gobbled up for HMOs are often in the heart of where protestors live. Hell, even in my area you have people openly talking about their dislike for niggers, let alone illegal goatfuckers. The only way they'll knock a slag up is with rape, which they try regardless anyways.

A very merry and blessed Christmas to all you lads and lasses.
 
evrae said:
You'd be surprised. The right wing in my area are deceivingly clever. It also sounds like the main organisers of the protests in my area got directly informed of the news too, so they might have insiders leaking shit too.
Hopefully they leak which HMOs have the rapefugees too.

The main problem is the cheap housing gobbled up for HMOs are often in the heart of where protestors live. Hell, even in my area you have people openly talking about their dislike for niggers, let alone illegal goatfuckers. The only way they'll knock a slag up is with rape, which they try regardless anyways.

A very merry and blessed Christmas to all you lads and lasses.
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Even if it is rape, they'll still have that automatic in tp staying here. Because the UK has, for years, prioritized the rights and feels of criminals over and above the victims of crime.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
It was confirmed in September the government wanted to put ''migrants'' into student accommodation. I would not be surprised if it was ramping up. As thick as the british 'right wing' and public can be (sorry chaps) I do have hope that like Crowborough (a reminder they vote Green and are fairly middle class) people will find out and protest.

Wishing you Kiwifags a merry and blessed Christmas : )
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They already are using student accommodation. If you life near a forth rate university then those blocks of private student accommodation will be filled with boat monkeys with 12 months as the bottom drops out of the higher education market.
 
A-Logato said:
They likely bullied/warned the place into selling which is fairly common. They always come in with a large offer first and then if you don't accept it then your windows are going first. Seen it happen many times sadly.
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I also wondered if the owners just decided now is the time to sell up what with the way things are going in the pub trade and the latest BS by the govt. From what I know it's the same couple who ran the place the entire 15 odd years I've lived here.
 
News o'clock.

One of the fellows behind Greta's tubs linked with Hamas.
The Government is considering whether to impose sanctions on a British Palestinian activist accused of being a senior Hamas leader, The Telegraph has learnt.
HM Treasury is investigating claims levelled against Zaher Birawi, who has been named in Parliament as a serious security risk over his alleged role in the group.
Mr Birawi, who runs the Palestinian Forum in Britain (PFB) and was responsible for organising the aid flotilla to Gaza involving Greta Thunberg, is accused of being one of Hamas’s leading figures in Europe.
The 64-year-old British national was described in Parliament by Christian Wakeford, a Labour MP, as having been “designated by Israel in 2013 as a senior Hamas operative in Europe”. The MP, speaking soon after the Oct 7 attack on Israel, said Mr Birawi posed “a serious national security risk”.


The Treasury’s Office of Financial Sanctions Implementations (OFSI) is now understood to be considering whether to designate Mr Birawi under the Counter-Terrorism (Sanctions) Regulations 2019.
Whitehall officials have said that the “OFSI will consider in detail” evidence which has been submitted to it supporting the call for Mr Birawi to be sanctioned.
Sir Keir Starmer has previously said he would take action over suspected Hamas officials and operatives in Britain, following the Government’s recognition of the State of Palestine in September this year.
If sanctions were imposed on Mr Birawi, he would be registered as a “designated person,” triggering financial sanctions against him, principally an asset freeze, and prohibiting funds or economic resources being made available to him.
Mr Birawi, who has helped to organise several protests against Israel in London since the outbreak of the Gaza war, has denied ever being involved in any illegal acts within the scope of terrorism crimes.

He has also previously denied any links to Hamas, describing all such accusations as “baseless”.
But the Israeli government’s Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Centre (ITIC) has alleged Mr Birawi’s public statements and writings glorify the terror group’s actions.
It has also been alleged by the ITIC that Mr Birawi has helped establish several UK and European organisations identified by Israel and other allies of the UK, including Germany, as Hamas fronts.
These are alleged to include the Palestinian Return Centre (PRC), which was banned in Israel in 2010 as Hamas’s European organisational arm, and the PFB, which has been described by the German government as Hamas’s “most important propaganda event in Europe”.
Both organisations operate from a large office block overlooking the North Circular Road near Stonebridge Park, north London.

Mr Birawi has been repeatedly photographed appearing senior Hamas figures, including Ismail Haniyeh, its former leader, who was assassinated in 2022 by an explosive device suspected to have been placed by Israeli agents in his guest house in Tehran, and the group’s military chief Mahmoud Zahar.
In 2022, before the Oct 7 attacks on Israel, Mr Birawi submitted evidence to Parliament on behalf of the PFB insisting that he supported “peaceful means to advocate for an end to Israeli occupation”.
Mr Birawi, who was born in the West Bank before moving to Britain in the early 1990, was a key figure in organising the boat aid convoy to Gaza earlier this year which included Greta Thunberg, the Swedish environmental activist, among the crew.
He called himself a “founding member” of the Freedom Flotilla International Coalition aid boat Madleen, which was boarded and seized by Israeli forces in June.

The ITIC has previously claimed that Mr Birawi has extensive experience in dispatching flotillas from Europe to the Gaza Strip with the stated aim of “breaking the siege”.
In his speech to Parliament in November 2023 Mr Wakeford said of Mr Birawi: “Publicly available video shows him hosting a 2019 event in London titled Understanding Hamas.
“Hamas launched the deadliest terror attack [the Oct 7 attack on Israel] the world has seen since 9/11. It is therefore a serious national security risk for Hamas operatives to be living here in London.”
There is no suggestion that Mr Birawi was involved in the Oct 7 attack.
The OFSI said it did not comment on specific cases and was not able to provide details of any investigations taking place.
A spokesman from Campaign Against Antisemitism said: “It is extraordinary how long it takes the organs of the British state to take action. It’s astonishing how little urgency there seems to be when it comes to investigating allegations of extremism and ties to terrorism. If the allegations are borne out, the full force of the law must immediately be brought to bear.”
Mr Birawi and the PFB were approached for comment.
The PFB has previously denied any affiliation to Hamas, claiming that such allegations are “false and unfounded” and “either funded by the government of Israel or funded by the many pro-Israeli lobby groups worldwide”.
The PRC has also denied any links with Hamas, stating: “As an organisation, the PRC is a non-partisan NGO committed to advocating for Palestinian human rights within the framework of international law. Our work is lawful, transparent, and independent of any political affiliations.
“The unfounded allegations linking the PRC to political groups primarily originate from Israeli sources and are politically motivated. These claims aim to delegitimise our advocacy work because of our critical stance and vocal opposition to Israel’s human rights violations and breaches of international law.”
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Labour sabre rattling at councils doing 4 day weeks.
Local Government Secretary Steve Reed has written to all council leaders in England warning them not to introduce four-day working weeks.
As reported by the Telegraph, the letter is understood to say that "council staff undertaking part-time work for full-time pay without compelling justification would be considered an indicator, among a wide range of factors, of potential failure".
He added that he hoped he had made the government's policy "unambiguously clear to all councils".
A Labour source said "Voters deserve high standards and hard work from local councils, and seeing council staff working a four-day week just won't cut it."
"They should get on with the job and make sure residents get the best service possible five days a week," the source added.
In the letter to the councils, which was reported by The Telegraph, Reed says that local authorities should not be offering "full-time pay for part-time work".
Reed previously expressed his "deep disappointment" in the first UK council to adopt a four-day working week.
South Cambridgeshire District Council, which is led by the Liberal Democrats, became the first to make a permanent move to a four-day week in July after it began trialling a shorter working week in 2023.
Reed said there had been a decline in performance in the council's housing service and he asked how the local authority would "mitigate" this.
The government can intervene in any council if it is deemed to be failing.
Last year Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer also rejected civil servants' demands for a four-day working week.
Critics of a four-day week say it would reduce productivity and slow economic growth but others disagree.
A trial in the Scottish public sector this year found an increase in productivity and improvements in staff well-being.
The Autonomy Institute, which was commissioned by the Scottish government to co-ordinate the pilot, found that 98% of staff judged morale and motivation to have improved.
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People have already mentioned the non crime hate incident changes, my suspicion about what they'll instead do is they will claim more are actual crimes, especially with the incoming Islamaphobia definition.

Police leaders are set to recommend scrapping non-crime hate incidents (NCHIs) in a review to be published next month.
College of Policing chair Lord Herbert told the BBC a "sensible" new approach, focused only on the most serious incidents, would "re-balance the system" for the social media age.
NCHIs are alleged acts motivated by hostility or prejudice towards people with certain characteristics, such as race or gender, but which do not meet the bar for a criminal offence.
Current Home Office guidance says they are recorded to collect data on "hate incidents that could escalate into more serious harm", but critics say they divert police resources and restrict freedom of speech.
Though they are not crimes, NCHIs stay on police records and can come up in background checks.
Police guidance on the recording of NCHIs was first published in 2005, following recommendations by an inquiry into the murder of Stephen Lawrence - the London teenager who was stabbed to death in a racist attack in 1993.
But Lord Herbert said "an explosion of social media" in the years since they were introduced has meant police had been drawn into monitoring "mere disputes" online.
Officers do not want to be "policing tweets", he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
He added that recent headlines about NCHIs were "awkward and very damaging" for the police.
"It was quite clear that the whole regime needed looking at, that there was a perception that the police were being drawn into matters that they shouldn't have been," he added.
The home secretary will have the final decision on whether to adopt the recommendations outlined by the College of Policy and National Police Chiefs' Council in their review next month.
The Home Office told the BBC "a consistent, common-sense approach" that protected the "fundamental right to free speech" was needed, but added it would not pre-empt the findings of the review.
The vice-chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council, Rachel Swann, said: "It is not for policing to referee online debates on cultural issues. Protecting free speech and ensuring officers focus on real-world threat and risk is an important part of our considerations.
"But equally important is ensuring policing can continue to keep our communities safe, such as by spotting risks to vulnerable people, monitoring community tensions or identifying potential precursors to violence and other criminal behaviour."
She added it will be for ministers to decide on future policy.
Details of the new proposals were first reported by the Telegraph. Lord Herbert told the newspaper that "only the most serious category of what will be treated as anti-social behaviour will be recorded".
Last year, the paper reported that 43 police forces in England and Wales had recorded more than 133,000 NCHIs since 2014.
In October, the Metropolitan Police said it would no longer investigate NCHIs to allow officers to "focus on matters that meet the threshold for criminal investigations".
It came after the policing watchdog said forces should stop recording them.
In April, Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch called for NCHIs to be scrapped in most cases, arguing they "wasted police time chasing ideology and grievance instead of justice".
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Some late news:

* Axe-wielding neighbour from hell caused thousands of pounds of damage in parking row in Otley

* British construction company, Warwick Ward Machinery, plunges into administration after 55 years of trading - most staff at risk

* Rachel Reeves' car taxes could 'derail' switch to EVs as Labour faces backlash over anti-petrol and diesel policy

* Britons told to swap turkey for red cabbage soup this Christmas to save the planet

* Children's book urgently pulled from libraries across UK after malicious web link discovered

* Drugs kingpin who lived luxurious double life in Thailand jailed for 14 years

* Six immigration officers charged over alleged thefts from migrants and money laundering

* Fraudster from Renfrewshire jailed after being caught flushing evidence of £11 MILLION money laundering plot down toilet

* Palestine Action hunger strikers launch legal action against David Lammy after activists hospitalised
 
anklyscr said:
Last Christmas or don’t let the bells end.
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"Last Christmas, I gave you my heart,
"The very next day, you gave it away___" 🎶

As a kid I could never remember what came after that so I used to sing: "This year, instead of my heart, I'll stick to a box of chocolates".

I actually still don't know what the next lines are come to think of it.
 
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