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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

I bet she walks around with no kit on and rides like a racehorse on meth.

My kingdom for a deviant react

Rupert Lowe is on X calling for the country to be so hostile to illegals they start to self deport. The usuals are condemning this however this feels like a genie out the bottle moment. A while ago we wouldn't have even been able to discuss migration in the news, the vibe is definitely shifting.

 

[Otterly]

there are two components to being a good driver. One is the technical like gears, reaction times, etc. The other is not being a tit.

My dad taught me to drive, and impressed upon me these and a third, which is that however good you are, other people are tits who do unpredictable and stupid things. And a fourth, which is that speed and distance combine to survival reaction window.
And thus, leave a gap, because one day someone will do something stupid in front of you and if there’s a big gap, you get a second more before your car occupies the space they did the stupid thing in and becomes mince.
‘Assume everyone else on the road is potentially drunk, distracted or stupid’ is good advice.
I will say that even since I started driving a billion or so years back the volume of traffic has gone up and so has the stupidity and aggression. Even since Covid I’ve noticed people driving worse. Scares the shit out if me tbh.

 

[Overly Serious]

My dad taught me to drive, and impressed upon me these and a third, which is that however good you are, other people are tits who do unpredictable and stupid things. And a fourth, which is that speed and distance combine to survival reaction window.
And thus, leave a gap, because one day someone will do something stupid in front of you and if there’s a big gap, you get a second more before your car occupies the space they did the stupid thing in and becomes mince.
‘Assume everyone else on the road is potentially drunk, distracted or stupid’ is good advice.
I will say that even since I started driving a billion or so years back the volume of traffic has gone up and so has the stupidity and aggression. Even since Covid I’ve noticed people driving worse. Scares the shit out if me tbh.

Your dad was a wise otter.

I was going to give you a reaction and then given the topic decided best not.

 

[Otterly]

Your dad was a wise otter.

I was going to give you a reaction and then given the topic decided best not.

One for the road!
Also I remember being told that however confident I felt (not at all) everyone fucks up sometimes and leaving a gap gives you that second to correct it. Not speeding does too. I’m afraid that much as I’d secretly like a trip round the top gear track, I’m also very aware that cars are massive chunks of high velocity mass and that thought is with me every time I step in one.
My dad has been consistently right about absolutely everything since day one. I wish I’d listened more as a kid but you think you know everything don’t you? If he was running the country, we’d be a much better place.
They named the lady who died after being stabbed in the neck in Birmingham. She looks like a very normal woman, poor family. Senseless, terrible loss.

 

[BongoMongo]

One for the road!
Also I remember being told that however confident I felt (not at all) everyone fucks up sometimes and leaving a gap gives you that second to correct it. Not speeding does too. I’m afraid that much as I’d secretly like a trip round the top gear track, I’m also very aware that cars are massive chunks of high velocity mass and that thought is with me every time I step in one.
My dad has been consistently right about absolutely everything since day one. I wish I’d listened more as a kid but you think you know everything don’t you? If he was running the country, we’d be a much better place.
They named the lady who died after being stabbed in the neck in Birmingham. She looks like a very normal woman, poor family. Senseless, terrible loss.

I wish I had listened to our mam more. I really truly do.

I'm sitting here in my living room with curtains drawn and gas fire roaring and wishing I had taken heed to her before more than ever. But if wishes were horses we would all ride and all that.

And that said things are reet the now. But goddamn I wish I had listened to that woman before a long time back.

 

[chilli burn]

100% in agreement and it's not a case of 'will Nigel do this' it's a case of 'he has to do this or else all hell breaks loose.'

Genuinely, I believe he would do this or at least get the ball rolling so that whoever takes over from him continues the mission.

Reform UK will have raison d'etre and the backing of the masses to drive the proverbial 'horse and coaches' through Whitehall etc. and, dare I say it, some Civil Servants would even welcome the change.

It would take probably two years to have pulled up most of the weeds, but I'm confident it would be done and by the time we were going to the GE after next the country would be in a far better place.

Defunding the Quango's, UKAID in part, banning the think tanks and doing what the people ask will keep Reform UK in not just for five years but a lot longer - the Lib Dems are losing ground to the Greens and only a coalition between the two will deliver them any meaningful results in the

For all their many faults, cigarettes are tobacco which is a plant and you absolutely know where you stand with them. They're terrible for you but we know the risks and you can make an informed choice.

Personally, I started smoking in 2016 after I was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor. I'd done everything right up til that point. Slim, non smoker,non drinker. And I felt totally and utterly defeated. I quit in 2022, and the help I got was brilliant. Upfront honest real advice and I am glad and grateful every day for it.

Vapes though we know nothing about. They're toxic and deadly

Damn whats the diagnosis for the tumour?. Do people generally live 10 years plus with one?

 

[BongoMongo]

Damn whats the diagnosis for the tumour?. Do people generally live 10 years plus with one?

Non cancerous but highly inoperable without risking inflicting blindness, deafness paralysis or a whole other slew of sensory issues on me. It's a basal glioma in my thalamus so it fucks with my sleep but I work night shifts so it works well for me.

To say I was pissed at like everything when I was diagnosed would be a gross understatement. Wad DXd in 2016. Le Coof came along 2020 and I remember, and I will remember this to my dying day, thinking, "let's experiment with marijuana!!!!" And that is exactly what I did. I watched all of Chernobyl on a onner while high; I do not recommend that.

Over that shit now and for the most part very clean living (I have an MRI every 12 months and le tumour is up to nothing much) but at time I was big big mad about it.

Glioma is good . glioblastoma is bad. That's the cancer. I don't have cancer thank god but it's still a shit show in its own special way. Shit sucks. To quote Tom MacDonald,we all have problems and we all feel alone, we've all been haunted by the secrets we hold. We can fill our coffins with the rocks they have thrown or we can build our castles with the sticks and the stones.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

you guys aren't going to believe what's happened

 

[BongoMongo]

you guys aren't going to believe what's happened

Another nigger stabbing a native Brit? Did I win the prize?

Lemme guess a nigger in a gray prison issue tracksuit.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

you guys aren't going to believe what's happened

Can we start the bingo?

>Black
>British Citizen
>Rucksack
>Water proof coat

(If they find him).

I'm going to carry some superglue on me, just in case.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

I'm going to carry some superglue on me, just in case.

I'm going to print out and carry job applications to scare them off

 

[A-Logato]

you guys aren't going to believe what's happened

A declaration of a manhunt without an image or description so that we can't identify the individual? How will we ever know who he is if they don't give us any detail besides "a man"?

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Why are there so many drivers who don't understand what the fuck Stopping Distance is? Be me, driving along, exact same speed as the vehicle in front, got enough space that if it suddenly brakes I can too. Car behind, clearly gay, doing its best to disappear up my arse, pulls out, inches past me at about 5pmh more than I am doing, immediately pulls into the space in front of me and starts slowing down because car it is now behind was going the same speed I was. Gives me about 5m gap between me and it.

Personally I blame the submissive element of Britishness where we're afraid to take action directly, instead preferring to rant about it days later. Whenever some retard tried to overtake my Dad dangerously he'd just go bezerk with the horn and spook the guy to fuck off or he was going to fucking kill him. It was magical, you'd get all these old biddies who have never been told NO in their entire lives just going back in their lanes and seething.

Edited to say,not pooping when withdrawing from tobacco was by far my worst thing. Needing to poop and not being able to is the absolute worst. Offset that and so long as you want to do it,is half the battle won.

What killed me when I went cold turkey from tobacco was the dirty sweat for a few days. I really don't know how to describe it other than I'd be sitting watching a movie and all of a sudden realise I'm wet and stink. I've never had sweating issues prior to quitting and after a week it went away never to return. Absolutely bizarre situation. That and the extreme drowsyness that occurred when all the nicotine was finally out of my system and my body basically realised it had been relying on it to keep me awake. I genuinely felt like I was going through the stages of heart failure until the urges dropped and I went back to feeling like a human being for the first time in 10 years.

Chewing gum helps too.

For all their many faults, cigarettes are tobacco which is a plant and you absolutely know where you stand with them. They're terrible for you but we know the risks and you can make an informed choice.

If it was pure tobacco then sure but it really isn't. A fag from a packet is significantly more than just tobacco + filter + papers, there's all sorts of junk in them as preservatives that you don't get in rollies because tobacco just turns to shit when exposed to air. It might just be total anacdotal evidence here but everyone I've known with cancer/COPD from smoking has smoked cigarettes, whereas I've known rollie folk who simply look like shit but can still install a sink in their 50s.

 

[Russian Bot #5361]

A tax on vapes isn't a bad idea.

Classic British Conservative big nanny state point of view, god forbid people have the autonomy to make personal choices about their health without the state jumping in to put the finger on the scale. This type of attitude is precisely what led to the ban on refillable sugary drinks and sugar tax. The state doesn't need to be involved in every facet of our lives and we ought to be trusted to make decisions about our health.

The chemicals in vapes do more harm than the heavily regulated fag industry does. I say tax the shite out of them.

Please tell me which of these chemicals which make up most vape liquids:
Propylene Glycol (EP), Vegetable Glycerine (EP), Water, Nicotine (EP), Salicylic Acid, Flavourings,

Does more harm than this small selection of the over 7,000 chemicals in cigarette smoke:
Acetone, Acetic acid, Ammonia, Arsenic, Benzene, Butane, Cadmium, Carbon monoxide, Formaldehyde, Hexamine, Lead, Naphthalene, Methanol, Tar, Toluene.

I'm not a vaper, nor I believe that it's without it's harms, however, it is unequivocal that it is leagues better than traditional smoking. Moreover, the current medical data, though it is in its infancy, strongly suggests that vaping is significantly safer than smoking. Much of the arguments against it are based on feels and the errant assumption that natural = good,

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Classic British Conservative big nanny state point of view, god forbid people have the autonomy to make personal choices about their health without the state jumping in to put the finger on the scale.

Taxing vapes is replacing the tax on fags, something everyone was happy with because it kept the country ticking over. That tax disappeared and now I have sugar tax.

however, it is unequivocal that it is leagues better than traditional smoking.

Smoking is regulated, vaping is not. We know the harms of smoking, we have no idea the long term effects of vaping.

Moreover, the current medical data, though it is in its infancy, strongly suggests that vaping is significantly safer than smoking.

I remember when we were told smoking cured cancer and calmed you down. But hey, keep believing whatever bollocks these companies keep churning out.

And let's not forget the massive environmental toll that vapes cause over smoking. I'm no global warming hippy, but making billions of plastic vapes+electronics a year in some chinese sweat shop, shipped half way a round the world only to wang them in the nearest lake, landfill or motorway verge, seems a little retarded when the tab end of fags biodegrade.

paper, nicotine and cotton vs forever plastics and electronic circuitry. I know which one I would prefer to be thrown away.

 

[Russian Bot #5361]

Smoking is regulated, vaping is not.

This is simply not true. The UK has extensive regulations on e-cigarettes, some of the most comprehensive in the world.

"The MHRA is the competent authority for the UKs notification scheme for nicotine containing Vaping products (E-cigarettes and refill containers) in Great Britain and Northern Ireland and is responsible, working with other regulatory bodies, for implementing a number of provisions under Part 6 of the Tobacco and Related Products Regulations 2016 (TRPR), as amended"

Source: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/e-cigarettes-regulations-for-consumer-products

And let's not forget the massive environmental toll that vapes cause over smoking.

These days this is pretty much a non-argument, as post the disposable vape ban the amount of e-waste has reduced significantly. Moreover, this is hardly a drop in the bucket when it comes to the rampant use of single use plastics in our society and disposable electronics model.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

The MHRA is the competent authority for the UKs notification scheme for nicotine containing Vaping products

And the non tobacco products that all the kids have? And the illegal brands of vapes sold straight from china in abduls vape shop?

These days this is pretty much a non-argument, as post the disposable vape ban the amount of e-waste has reduced significantly.

Complains about government overreach, celebrates bans. Pick a lane.

And what do you think happens when people buy a vape pen? that they refill it like they used to? Nahh mush, it goes in the bin and another is bought. Source: all the vapers I work with.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

My big issue with vaping is that even if the science says that vaping is safer, it'll only be the regulated and more expensive ones that are safer. Everyone I know just goes to their local paki shop and buys liquid or vapes that could be made with Chinese sewage water for all we know.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

So is this guy in Nottingham on the loose still? Jesus fucking Christ, the Police are just overall inept.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

So is this guy in Nottingham on the loose still? Jesus fucking Christ, the Police are just overall inept.

What do you want them to do for you? This guy is clearly a professional criminal, our officers are only trained on handling 80 year old women posting things like "so true" on vaguely patriotic posts on facebook.

Clearly what we need are Digital ID cards with built in GPS trackers that are compulsory for all citizens. No! In fact, lets make them microchips instead, thats so much easier! We'll even throw in a small McDonalds Chips for getting your chip!