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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Clem Fandango]

The majority of people under 35 believe naughty words on the internet should land you in jail. If they can't deal with words, they won't vote for violence as a punishment.

God damn I hate young people

 

[Mound Dweller]

You've got to be what, 22, 23 years old? All of your posts seem to come from a viewpoint of a seething, possibly spoiled rich or well off kid that's mad at daddy, has little to no life experience, or at the very least has interacted with very few people out of his social bubble.

This might be hard for you to accept, but not everyone who 's with your deeply held personal characteristics has to be a certain bad stereotype

God damn I hate young people

They'll be old one day, the bastards.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

God damn I hate young people

I'm not blaming them, it's not their fault. To them their views are correct and I understand where they're coming from. They were raised on the internet, they've never known a world of 3330's that could play snake, of landlines and portable CD players. They didn't get to see the glorious evolution of the minidisc and OG MP3players and their wild and wacky designs.

To them, the internet is as real as anything else. They communicate primarily through the internet, most horrified by the thought of only knowing people face to face and in person, never knowing a world where opinions had to be dealt with as adults and unable to run off to furious spergpost on reddit.

They've never known politics as a local issue, or a world as large as the one they could see. The young know only of the global world, how a tragedy in maryland could affect the thinking in middlesborough, they've never known any of it.

So to them, meany words on the internet are meany words in real life. In the same way all they've known is mixed race friends groups, their pals jamal, abdul, tyrese and leonard. It's why hopes for deporting migrants is a fruitless endeavour and used only to grift and distract.

No way will young mackenzie vote to deport his black girl friend, iranian best mate and ugandan football friend.

This might be hard for you to accept, but not everyone who 's with your deeply held personal characteristics has to be a certain bad stereotype

He says using emojis like a 20 year old brain rotted faggot.

You're not disagreeing with an opinion, you're saying that people who paid taxes into a system that promised them a pension, should have their money robbed off of them. If you can't see the issue with that, it's because you're a 20 year old mong or someone so far removed from the real issues in the country and the financial drains that the common man faces, that you're only idea of a slight is the meany old people who have a comfortable life today, because they worked for it for decades.

It's the social equivilent of "if you didn't have breakfast, how would you feel?"
"but the old people do have money. I don't have money, therefore it isn't fair".
Completely ignoring the shit they went through in the 70's and 80's.

But hey, fuck the old people, the government should lie to them and take their money because they definitely won't do it to us! and it sets no bad precedent whatsoever.

 

[Mound Dweller]

snca

Bro, listen, you could say a lot about how the triple lock totally isn't a bribe for old people just like you might argue that maybe it's a justifiable thing because words words words or whatever

You're not doing that though, you're being a niggerfaggot and calling me names instead, because maybe I'm not the salty cunt in the room here

Take some time to reflect on who the real brain rotted homo is and maybe you'll be taken more seriously, sweaty

 

[Hoi Polloi]

You're not disagreeing with an opinion, you're saying that people who paid taxes into a system that promised them a pension, should have their money robbed off of them.

You're going a bit off-piste with your zoomer hatred stuff here and missing Mr Dweller's original point (although he is being cringe).

The triple-lock pension is untenable. Nobody is arguing that current pensioners need their money snatched out from under them, but the current state of it is quite clearly designed to vye for that voter base without any foresight. It needs to go, and getting rid of it isn't taking anyone's money away. It'd merely be stopping them from getting free extra money each year simply for being born at the correct time.

I may be completely wrong here, but as a yardstick I recall reading that the standard - and above-inflation - annual increase of a triple-lock pension exceeds the winter fuel allowance that many pensioners complained about losing.

It cannot and will not continue as it is.

 

[Mound Dweller]

The triple-lock pension is untenable.

We cannot afford it simple as, same as with other nice things like nuclear weapons and a global empire etc that'd be nice to have but are beyond an acceptable reach. Pensions in general are a bullshit pyramid scheme anyway, since if you're relying on the state to pretend to give a toss about your well being you've failed to properly prepare IMO.

(although he is being cringe)

You just made an enemy for life

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

They don't even directly discredit the actual girls who were affected. They have seemingly been trying for quite a while to cart out the vanishingly small number of women who were abused by gangs of white men or - even better in the media's eyes - irrelevant girls who embellished or outright lied about being abused.

They are entirely unable to actually discredit the very real, factual instances of grooming by "asians" so they try to poison the well instead.

FYI whenever anyone refers to "asians" you should correct them by saying South Asians. It's actually more woke to say that because it's accurate and you're removing the retarded smokescreen of acting like Chinese people are potentially the bad actors in British society vs Pakis.

If that BBC program is about the case I think it is, one of the poor, persecuted kebab shop owners who was falsely accused of being a noncey child-raper by that young lass..... Was later revealed to indeed be a noncey child-raper, just not of that particular girl. Hell of a coincidence, what are the odds of a man who is a dirty paedo being falsely accused of being a dirty paedo, gives kebab shop owners a bad name, it does.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

What is our breaking point as a country? Bombing a fish and chip shop? Or have we all become lazy, Deliveroo-gurgling, slop-addicted spastics and it's all too late?

No. If anything, I think the lack of action is the scariest part of all of this.

The anger isn't external. Yes, people are ranting in pubs about how Pakis need hanged etc. but we've gone from being outwardly angry to pure simmering silent anger. The "We will wait for the next election and then ensure Labour is destroyed" anger.

If there was a big riot then the media circus could be put into overdrive to diminish the right wing thugs who hate England... but there isn't one. Every week millions are spent on policing the migrant hotels in the hope that something big happens that can force Labour to start doing crackdowns on people. Every week opinion polls get worse for Labour and nothing kicks off.

Even the flag protest is a genius tactic as it basically changes the narrative into a condescending smug leftist type argument: "So what EXACTLY about the flag upsets you?" To take flags down ensures that the community is angered, to let them remain up ensures that the community has won. It's pretty much a velvet revolution type of deal where the council know what we mean by these flags but can't say it because if they do they've lost.

So ultimately we've already PASSED the breaking point, now it's about peacefully ejecting Labour in a way where we will not be arrested as we need our votes to matter.

 

[BongoMongo]

If people are going to talk about being brain-rotted, might be best they figure out how to use multi quote first. Just saying.

And anyone retarded enough to believe a promise or "social contract" from the Government, and rely solely upon that promise to keep them financially when they choose to retire is a spastic of the highest order.

 

[FedPostalService]

Wigan would vote for a Labour MP that was recorded raping someone. Reform has a chance there but I would be astounded if they succeeded seriously.

In their defence they do have great pies in Wigan.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

In their defence they do have great pies in Wigan.

Wigan is a literal humiliation ritual for the North. The major trainline between Glasgow and London goes through it and while little of the area is pretty the job centre's backside is uglier than most. You might as well hold up a sign for the commuters going through saying, "all hope is lost."

 

[Clem Fandango]

And how does Wigan have a pier when it's nowhere near the sea?

 

[FedPostalService]

Wigan is a literal humiliation ritual for the North. The major trainline between Glasgow and London goes through it and while little of the area is pretty the job centre's backside is uglier than most. You might as well hold up a sign for the commuters going through saying, "all hope is lost."

Wigan is weird but I’ve had a good laugh in pubs there when I’ve been stuck because of trains for a few hours.

I’d rather be stuck there than Preston. Preston is fucking drab.

 

[2 Faces 2 Colours]

And how does Wigan have a pier when it's nowhere near the sea?

It doesn't really. The "pier" is just some wooden platforms that lightly protrude into a canal.

 

[FedPostalService]

It doesn't really. The "pier" is just some wooden platforms that lightly protrude into a canal.
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Weirdly that’s the one pub I want to go to there but I’ve never been.

 

[Otterly]

it's folly that rehabilitation has become the sole focus;

Rehab is for those who can be rehabbed. A kid who grew up in bad circumstances and ended up nicking a car, if he wants to, he. An change. Rehab works for a minority, and for them it should be on the table. The key questions are what they did to land in jail, and what threat they pose to society. Someone who never steals a car again and gets a job is no threat. Serve your time, be supported, live your life. Someone who rapes, sadistically harms, or molests children will not change. They cannot be rehabilitated.
As a society we seem to have a big problem with the idea that some people are bad. Pedos are bad. People who lack the brain function to feel that their actions hurt others are bad. The latter cannot ever be safe in society.

Plenty more has been said as well. I mean you have to give the guy a chance, because the alternative is the same two parties that have done all the damage so far.

They get a chance. The tories were crap, labour are nightmarish. If someone will pledge to disassemble the structures the Blair demon put in, I will vote for them. I want it in a manifesto. I do not trust any politicians.

No way will young mackenzie vote to deport his black girl friend, iranian best mate and ugandan football friend.

See, I’d have thought that too. Then Covid happened and every day for a few years I woke up and thought ‘surely people won’t accept this?’ And then they did, enthusiastically. People telling me to my face I should be fired and my kids taken for not taking an injection.
Young Mackenzie will do whatever the social engineering people and the telly tell him is the right thing to do. He will accept the programming, repeat the slogans, and feel righteous for doing so. He will attack those who object
The Jews in WW2 probably thought their neighbours wouldn’t wave them off to camps either. I used to have a mate who had lived through the whole Sarajevo thing. She had stories that’d turn your hair white and she used to bitterly laugh at people who said ‘that couldnt happen here.’
All three scenarios show you that maybe 15% max of the population has the balls to stand up and say no to Covid, or hide someone in the attic, and almost nobody would go up against armed men storming the flat next door and shooting the inhabitants in the hallway, as happened in her block.
All it takes is the people holding the power to change, and the propaganda machine to spin up a set of acceptable opinions. People are frighteningly malleable

 

[Just a boring name]

And how does Wigan have a pier when it's nowhere near the sea?

In all fairness, whenever I'd been at Wigan Pier during the 90's, I wouldn't have realised I was on this planet, never mind whether it was an actual pier!

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Bro, listen, you could say a lot about how the triple lock totally isn't a bribe for old people just like you might argue that maybe it's a justifiable thing because words words words or whatever

The triple-lock pension is untenable.

We cannot afford it simple as,

We can afford it. It's not untenable or a lie to get old people to keep voting, that is fucking retarded and more proof you live in cloud-coo-coo land.

And you've missed the point. This isn't about the pension or bribing old people, it is, at the very core, the separation of the government from the people in ways we have never seen and the final cattle-ification of the masses. If you just accept that the government can do what it wants, will steal your money for reasons they fabricate, and a mass majority are brainwashed into believing that's OK, if you accept that, then you're fucked, the country is fucked and there is no saving us.

That may sound extreme, but the moment a government can lie and be clapped on for that lie, one that robs people of their livelihoods, their futures and years of their life, if you're happy with that, then what's the difference between that and genocides or mass culling?
"The government promised it would never arrest and euthanise me for having these views" oops, we lied and now half of society agrees you should be terminated.

Think for one fucking second outside of your bubble, outside of your box and look at the bigger picture.

See, I’d have thought that too. Then Covid happened and every day for a few years I woke up and thought ‘surely people won’t accept this?’ And then they did, enthusiastically. People telling me to my face I should be fired and my kids taken for not taking an injection.

You're right and You and I were in the same position. We knew the common man was gullible, even a little stupid and uneducated, but to follow in the footsteps of the Nazis, to a T and not be able to make the connection?
That's when I went from viewing my fellowman with sympathy and empathy to viewing them with absolute contempt.

The government can only get away with what the people allow, and what we see in my post above, is the common man agreeing to strip money from pensioners because "we can't afford it", while in the same breathe be completely unwilling to stop that money going to raping, murdering, illegal aliens.

As far as I'm concerned, this country can burn to the fucking ground and immolate those happy clappers along with it. I have my plans in place and God willing, next Christmas I'll be roasting my passport on an open fire.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Doublepost, because it has been revealed to ITV that FOUR MORE PRISONERS were released by accident and are the subject of police manhunts. No names or faces yet.

I'm starting to think this was a regular occurrence for years and only now people are noticing.

 

[Otterly]

Another stabbing:

https://archive.ph/tvELp

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15271769/Woman-fighting-life-stabbed-neck-unprovoked-attack-Birmingham-street.html

I grew up in a very rough, deprived village/small town. Real genuine poverty in most if it. There was nowhere in that town that you’d risk being stabbed waiting for a bus at 9pm. There was nowhere in that down that was a no go area.
Ditto the city I live in now. There was nowhere I would have freaked out at if I’d found myself waiting for a bus at none o clock at night.
I now will not go into the town centre of the town I grew up in at all. Not in broad daylight, because it’s full of foreign men milling around. There are now places on the city I live in that I avoid completely. Same reason.
‘A man’ is in custody. No description of victim or attacker, so I suppose we place our usual bets.