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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Some afternoon news bits:

* Politics LIVE: Labour set for worst election in a century after dropping to distant fourth in latest poll.

* 'You all need to toughen up!' London Tories' Susan Hall launches tirade against academics in hate crime row.

* Steve Reed tells Ellie Costello ‘do NOT interrupt me’ during heated grilling on mistakenly freed prisoners.

* Lisa Nandy issues grovelling apology after breaking governance code by appointing Labour donor as football regulator chief.

* 'I share the fury... but I can't wave a magic wand': Minister defends Labour's justice record amid prison chaos.

* Humza Yousaf compares modern 'Islamophobia' to 1930s Germany and issues call to 'mobilise'.

* Conservative bigwigs dealt massive blow as Reform storms to victory in Tory heartlands on Super Thursday.

* Joey Barton found guilty of 'offensive' social media posts against Eni Aluko, Lucy Ward and Jeremy Vine.

* No, we are not returning to the 1970s. What Britain faces is an entirely new nightmare - Paul Embery.

* Locals in disbelief after road workers misspell town's name FOUR times (it's Kirkby, not Kirby).

* Wiltshire Council launches investigation into 17th Century pub's giant St George's Cross in planning row.

* Public could be 'at risk' amid 'sudden' rise of absconders from open prisons.

* 'Absolutely shocking!' Reform councillor tears into Police Scotland for 'censoring' Glasgow's grooming gangs scandal: 'Deeply scary'.

* Victoria Coren Mitchell fumes 'I do have principles' as she issues firm statement amid Graham Linehan trans row.

* Channel 5 fury as Jeremy Vine panel BACK Martine Croxall BBC rule break decision amid 'pregnant people' row: 'Left-wing LUNACY!'

* David Lammy accused of 'rank incompetence' by fellow ministers over prisoner debacle.

* Rachel Reeves told pay-per-mile car tax plan is 'self-defeating' ahead of huge Budget decision.

* 'Shameful' online sellers accused of stealing money from RBL by profiting from fake Remembrance Day poppies.

* 'We can beat Reform!' Arabic poster urging Labour voters to switch to Greens to block Nigel Farage's path to No10 spotted in London.
 
BongoMongo said:
if the Nazis had taken over.
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"At least we aren't speaking German" used to be a shared joke.

Now it's the one sentence that makes me feel ill.

There are literally daily murders and rapes now. If this goes on for another 3.5 years, parts of this country will have a genuine community watch presence that will patrol streets with weapons. I genuinely do believe that pepper spray (or some pozzed equivalent) will be eventually legalised otherwise people will be mixing up their own Paki Protection solutions over the kitchen sink.

We've been very placid and controllable people but we also have a lot of rapidly-building anger and resentment. By rapid, I mean it's gone from 0 to 100 over the course of a year.

The thing that started the riots last year was the slaughter of three young girls. We've had rape hotels, mass censorship, digital ID chatter, scummy ministers (including the Chancellor) and now are subjected to daily reports of escaped migrant convicts and murders/rapes of white people by people whose name reads like a restaurant menu on a foreign holiday.

What is our breaking point as a country? Bombing a fish and chip shop? Or have we all become lazy, Deliveroo-gurgling, slop-addicted spastics and it's all too late?
 
Crunkle said:
Or have we all become lazy, Deliveroo-gurgling, slop-addicted spastics and it's all too late?
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We all definitely have become lazy, but I think we will just become further divided. Communities who are suffering (ie Epping) will eventually have to turn to 'a genuine community watch presence that will patrol streets with weapons' while comfy un-migranted places who vote Labour/Green will stay goyslop guzzling feel good twitterati. Political ideology/opinions have become such a huge part of peoples identity and how they see themselves and division is only increasing. The only way I can see the left turning on migrants is if the Islam-Leftist split becomes so blatant (with Islamists calling to kill fags or smth) or if Israel does a funny and outright admits to funding UK migration or whatever you jewspiracists blogpost about.
If the budget and tax rising alongside whistleblowers about multi million pound migrant contracts isn't the breaking point then idk we are fucked. If the people let Labour rape them like this then idk bros maybe we do deserve it.
Sidenote but I saw a fucking 'Free Lucy Letby' protest today. About 30-40 people with placards. Baffling. Look I blame the NHS for ignoring the multiple complaints about her but that doesn't stop her being a babykiller.
 
@Made In Wales Humza Yousaf compares modern 'Islamophobia' to 1930s Germany and issues call to 'mobilise'.

What an odd thing to say. So were the Jews in early 20th century Germany raping young German girls in industrial numbers for decades, wholly protected by the authorities? Is that what caused the holocaust? Because if that's his argument, then I don't think it's going to make people think "Islamophobia bad," it's going to make them think "Ahhhhh okay, I get it now."
 
Former footballer and edgy internet shitposter Joey Barton has been found guilty, by a jury of his peers at the Crown Court, of six counts of sending grossly offensive communications under Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003. He is due to be sentenced on the 8th of December 2025.

His heinous communications that reached the level of criminality consisted of:

  • (Badly) superimposing the faces of TV football pundits Lucy Ward and Eni Aluko on the bodies of serial killers Fred and Rose West. (Known to be one of the counts he was found guilty of)
  • "[Ward & Aluko] are the Fred and Rose West of football commentary"
  • [Ms Aluko was in the] "Joseph Stalin/Pol Pot category ... murdered hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of football fans’ ears".
  • "Only there to tick boxes. DEI is a load of s***. Affirmative action. All off the back of the BLM/George Floyd nonsense."
  • Called Jeremy Vine a "bike nonce"
  • asked him: "Have you been on Epstein Island? Are you going to be on these flight logs? Might as well own up now because I’d phone the police if I saw you near a primary school on ya bike."
(Please note it is not known which specific communications were found to be offending, but all these were alleged to be.)

Sources: BBC; The Independent; Sky News;

If the bar for criminality is a mild bit of banter and internet shit flinging, everyone posting in this thread would be banged up in HMP Belmarsh in the supermax wing.
 
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A uniparty government will never in a million years legalise CS/pepper spray, because to do so would be to admit that the state has failed in it's number one duty which is to maintain order.

Tacitly admitting that violent crime is out of control leads to a discussion of why that is, and who the criminals are, and that leads to bad, bad times for politicians, civil servants and foreigns.

Reform could do it (but won't), but no other party can. It strikes at the heart of their foundational beliefs about magic soil.
 
At least give Nigel a chance - if he is a let down, he will definitely be removed.

You've heard about the phrase 'sum of its parts', well although Nigel is key to Reform UK's success, he is one part of it and in time will have to be replaced (he's no spring chicken at present!)

Fixing the problems won't be a five year job, it'll be at least ten if not longer, but things like violent crime can be solved:

* More prisons including 'Supermax' developments and Trans only and Sex Offenders only prisons being built over a five year period with no halfway/two-thirds release.

* Stricter laws on punishing extreme behaviour, possibly even a referendum on Capital Punishment.

* Defunding 'Human Rights' solicitors across the board - these migrants will get a basic solicitor and barrister at trial but nothing else.

* Make up with Russia, eventually, and deport the migrants there.
 
Made In Wales said:
Fixing the problems won't be a five year job, it'll be at least ten if not longer, but things like violent crime can be solved:

* More prisons including 'Supermax' developments and Trans only and Sex Offenders only prisons being built over a five year period with no halfway/two-thirds release.
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This country has a serious lack of prisons, though it's worth bearing in mind each prisoner on average costs the UK £50,000, with higher cat prisoners costing upwards of £70,000. Prisoners released on license can be recalled to serve their full term if caught for any further offence or they have not complied with conditions, so it's a fair cost-saving and rehabilitation measure.
Made In Wales said:
* Stricter laws on punishing extreme behaviour, possibly even a referendum on Capital Punishment.
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Capital punishment would be extremely unpopular and likely score an own-goal for the proposer. Also harsher punishments have been shown not work as a deterrent. The real problem the UK has is a lack of enforcement, not enough police on the streets and detectives investigating real crimes.
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* Make up with Russia, eventually, and deport the migrants there.
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As if the proud Russian people would want the dregs of Britain's immigrants lmao. Also, America literally controls your nuclear deterrence system. The UK is America's lapdog whether they like it or not.
 
Russian Bot #5361 said:
This country has a serious lack of prisons, though it's worth bearing in mind each prisoner on average costs the UK £50,000, with higher cat prisoners costing upwards of £70,000. Prisoners released on license can be recalled to serve their full term if caught for any further offence or they have not complied with conditions, so it's a fair cost-saving and rehabilitation measure.

Capital punishment would be extremely unpopular and likely score an own-goal for the proposer. Also harsher punishments have been shown not work as a deterrent. The real problem the UK has is a lack of enforcement, not enough police on the streets and detectives investigating real crimes.

As if the proud Russian people would want the dregs of Britain's immigrants lmao. Also, America literally controls your nuclear deterrence system. The UK is America's lapdog whether they like it or not.
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I think that Trump is certainly letting Starmer know this as a fact.

At least the threat of being sent to Russia should hopefully scare migrants and those funding them with the threat of being sent to gulag or the Siberian front.

Re: Capital Punishment - not so sure on this, surprisingly a lot of younger people now support it as a means by which to stop bad people committing bad things. We're in an ever more violent society and these miscreants aren't going to behave or stop robbing, raping, murdering etc. therefore there has to be a very strong deterrent and message sent - we need to lock people up for these crimes, not saying hurty words which offend the permanently offended.

If we need to build Prisons, we can do so as a capital project and use the money that would have been wasted on vacuous and senseless 'projects' instead.

It's time that something was done for the benefit of the people.
 
Made In Wales said:
At least give Nigel a chance - if he is a let down, he will definitely be removed.
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And we will be another five years down the slope to hell.
If he gets in, will he rip out the problem by the roots? More prisons isn’t a fundamental solution, it’s a reaction - and yes we do need more prisons.
But until the structural changes Blair and his successors put in are removed, nothing changes. We need to pull out all the laws, the binds to foreign influence, all the legal avenues that we are beholden to that stop us from actually fixing the problems. The NGOs and the legal stuff has to be fixed first. Otherwise you’re rearranging deckchairs on the titanic
Will he do that? Will he back us up to pre Blair? Will he pull out the traitors on the civil service and judiciary who are embedded and causing this?
It’s all very well having the headline policies, but until the stuff behind the scenes is fixed nothing changes. The long march through the institutions has won
 
Russian Bot #5361 said:
rehabilitation measure.
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Rehabilitating has it's place since plenty of shoplifting crackheads and the like could well be "fixed" with sufficient effort, whether or not it's worth the effort is another matter of course. Some "people" however simply require physical removal, and it's folly that rehabilitation has become the sole focus; you cannot rehabilitate child rapists and granny murderers, just kill them (legally) we'll all be better off for it simple as.
"oooh but muh slippery slooope" is a fallacy, pedos and 100% they did it murders are not in doubt and we can start there and narrow down the specifics, but the retarded insistence on human life being oh so precious we can't waste it is a derangement that has gone on too long.
 
Otterly said:
And we will be another five years down the slope to hell.
If he gets in, will he rip out the problem by the roots? More prisons isn’t a fundamental solution, it’s a reaction - and yes we do need more prisons.
But until the structural changes Blair and his successors put in are removed, nothing changes. We need to pull out all the laws, the binds to foreign influence, all the legal avenues that we are beholden to that stop us from actually fixing the problems. The NGOs and the legal stuff has to be fixed first. Otherwise you’re rearranging deckchairs on the titanic
Will he do that? Will he back us up to pre Blair? Will he pull out the traitors on the civil service and judiciary who are embedded and causing this?
It’s all very well having the headline policies, but until the stuff behind the scenes is fixed nothing changes. The long march through the institutions has won
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100% in agreement and it's not a case of 'will Nigel do this' it's a case of 'he has to do this or else all hell breaks loose.'

Genuinely, I believe he would do this or at least get the ball rolling so that whoever takes over from him continues the mission.

Reform UK will have raison d'etre and the backing of the masses to drive the proverbial 'horse and coaches' through Whitehall etc. and, dare I say it, some Civil Servants would even welcome the change.

It would take probably two years to have pulled up most of the weeds, but I'm confident it would be done and by the time we were going to the GE after next the country would be in a far better place.

Defunding the Quango's, UKAID in part, banning the think tanks and doing what the people ask will keep Reform UK in not just for five years but a lot longer - the Lib Dems are losing ground to the Greens and only a coalition between the two will deliver them any meaningful results in the future.
 
Otterly said:
It’s all very well having the headline policies, but until the stuff behind the scenes is fixed nothing changes. The long march through the institutions has won
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They have mentioned a lot of the things you have brought. No more welfare for non-nationals, and not just cash, we are talking legal support as well. A dismantling of the NGO/legal/human rights system that has done everything in its power to topple any chance of getting the issue under control. A lot of talk around the money being spent on "woke" projects, on DEI shit, all has to stop at least coming from the public tax payer. NHS restructuring to stop the endless bleeding, and actually dealing with the issues.

Plenty more has been said as well. I mean you have to give the guy a chance, because the alternative is the same two parties that have done all the damage so far.
 
Mound Dweller said:
Rehabilitating has it's place since plenty of shoplifting crackheads and the like could well be "fixed" with sufficient effort,
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Imho a lot of 'rehab' could be fixed by making some kind of junkie criminal army division. So many petty criminals are just 'young men led astray' or the like and giving them a community and identity and strict discipline (+ a small paycheck back home to any dependents) with the option to join the army/stay on after their sentence as a full soldier/sailor could do wonders for them. Give the men and women who made honest mistakes a chance to serve the country and clean up their act and kill the animals who cannot be changed.
Edit: spelling, the 'like' not the lack.
 
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