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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Tragon Dirtle said:
so you also think labour have managed 14 years of destruction in 6 months
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Well they certainly fucking aren't trying to undo it. They are clearly trying to make it worse and suceeding.
Tragon Dirtle said:
they have planes.
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Every country has planes. Should we give up on having borders because of that? These people do not belong in England nor france, the french refuse to do anything about the gangs trafficking these people because they are solving a problem for the french. If we shit them back into france then we are relying on the french getting rid of them which they will only do by sending them back over the channel. They need to go somewhere, rwanda is a better option than france is.
 
Tragon Dirtle said:
Do you understand what a plane is? it's not a dinghy.
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Ah OK, thousands of miles and the literal Sahara desert don't count as a "meaningful barrier" against illegal immigration because I can just fly there.

Have you been on a plane? You know, they ask to see your visa before they let you on. And even if you do get on, the plane lands at.... an airport. And you need to pass through.... immigration...

Durrrrr....
 
Clem Fandango said:
Ah OK, thousands of miles and the literal Sahara desert don't count as a "meaningful barrier" against illegal immigration because I can just fly there.

Have you been on a plane? You know, they ask to see your visa before they let you on. And even if you do get on, the plane lands at.... an airport. And you need to pass through.... immigration...

Durrrrr....
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The boat scrotes also have passports or we wouldn't keep hearing about how they're tearing them up and throwing them away, wouldn't we? It's possible to get false documents like visas.

Smuggling, including people smuggling, gets through immigration all the times. Student visas have been a much bigger source of illegal immigration than the boats have, which is why they've restricted them.
 
Tragon Dirtle said:
The boat scrotes also have passports or we wouldn't keep hearing about how they're tearing them up and throwing them away, wouldn't we? It's possible to get false documents like visas.

Smuggling, including people smuggling, gets through immigration all the times. Student visas have been a much bigger source of illegal immigration than the boats have, which is why they've restricted them.
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Yea you can forge shit. You can also make a gun from a few pipes does that mean we should give every immigrant a rifle when they get here along with their phones? Should we just give up and do nothing instead? Yea a few boats can cross the channel does that mean we should just fund every third worlder to fly here directly and save them the trouble? Where the fuck are they going to use their passports to anyway? They don't have a visa to visit any of europe so the closest they can fly to is still going to be at least further away than france.

No one is going to say it was going to end all immigration. But scrapping the concept of deportation entirely because one thing got fucked over and wasn't perfect is retarded. We need these people removed. Where else are you going to remove them to? And no one is saying that student visa abuse isn't an issue. Just because one thing is a problem doesn't mean you should ignore all the other problems.
 
Don't care if they get here on a dinghy, in the back of a truck, on a student visa, as a "skilled worker" installing dey weaves, they don't belong here, they need to go back and only one party is even talking about mass deportations.

Labour are a bunch of pathetically low-rent crooks who have the keys to the treasury but chose to rob the collection plate instead while continuing all the worst globohomo faggotry with an added layer of shit frosting, and the Tories are so desperate to be seen as "nice" they chose a gap-toothed Nigerian anchor-baby to be their leader out of terror at someone thinking they're wacist.

In the absence of the re-animated corpse of Enoch Powell running out from backstage and clocking Kemi with a folding chair in the middle of the ring, it's Nige or nowt. The least worst option.
 
You lot can argue as much as you want but nothing will change so long as the government continues to betray the country and allow all the world's scum to come. Labour threw open the flood gates, the tories not only kept them open but redoubled the inflow and Labour is speedrunning the influx. We're just lucky it's becoming obvious even to the most 'progressive' that all these fighting-aged male 'migrants' are basically a massive trojan army that's now inside the walls just waiting for orders. Labour WANTS this, and that's why they do nothing about it.
 
SirCliveSinclairdabbing said:
I didn’t realise it but I’m at the point of hatred now where black people nudge their friends when they see me in a shop and walk briskly away.

If I’m carrying unbridled hatred so be it.
We need to start by getting rid of the machete 7%. The only reparations should be a boat back to africa.
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Andrew will no longer be known as a prince and is to leave Royal Lodge, it has been confirmed.

In a bombshell statement released tonight, Buckingham Palace said he will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, with immediate effect.

'His Majesty has today initiated a formal process to remove the Style, Titles and Honours of Prince Andrew,' the palace said.

'Prince Andrew will now be known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. His lease on Royal Lodge has, to date, provided him with legal protection to continue in residence.

'Formal notice has now been served to surrender the lease and he will move to alternative private accommodation.

'These censures are deemed necessary, notwithstanding the fact that he continues to deny the allegations against him.

'Their Majesties wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost sympathies have been, and will remain with, the victims and survivors of any and all forms of abuse.'

It is understood the King Charles III is in the process of sending royal warrants to the Lord Chancellor to secure title removals for the Dukedom of York, Prince and 'Royal Highness' from Andrew. His brother is said to have not objected.
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That's him fucked now. A trip to the tunnel will be in the iternary. We can only hope in time that the same title removals are done for Prince Cuck and his wife.
 
pot of sneed said:
You lot can argue as much as you want but nothing will change so long as the government continues to betray the country and allow all the world's scum to come. Labour threw open the flood gates, the tories not only kept them open but redoubled the inflow and Labour is speedrunning the influx. We're just lucky it's becoming obvious even to the most 'progressive' that all these fighting-aged male 'migrants' are basically a massive trojan army that's now inside the walls just waiting for orders. Labour WANTS this, and that's why they do nothing about it.
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That's why we have to do something about it and (to ad lib 'Avenues And Alleyways') some of us are going to try.
 
Snackbarism said:
We can only hope in time that the same title removals are done for Prince Cuck and his wife.
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Don't forget this only happened after he did that interview. No one gave a shit until that point. They were fine with him being accused of these things and overlooking them until he did that interview. They would not have given a shit or punished him in any way if he didn't force them to. This isn't because he's a child rapist, it's because of the bad pr.
 
Tragon Dirtle said:
labour have managed 14 years of destruction in 6 months, which is the point where this discussion started
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Labour = Tories = Lib Dems = Greens = Your Party (Corbyn) = SNP = Sinn Feinn = Plaid Cmry > Any party that isn't one of these parties because they're so entrenched and tethered to internal status quos and mechanisms not at best you're hoping to get an apathetic but competent politician and at worst you're getting an incompetent with self-destructive aims for the country due to nebulous moral goals relating to "safety", "the environment", or "diversity and equality".

Labour, admittedly, were just inheriting a shit Tory economy, who had, in turn, inherited a shit Labour economy, who had, in turn, inherited a shit Tory economy, who had, in turn, inherited a shit Labour economy, who had, in turn... same-as-it-ever-was - Copy.gif
Because of globalism the markets at this point in history are basically stagnant since new potential businesses are entering a market already being undercut by a competitor, even if they manage to jump through all the regulatory hoops and requirements. The UK won't have a superconductor industry in a world where China (the entire country) will actively try to impede you was encroaching on AMD, nor a tech or computing industry for the same reasons. Automanufacturing in Europe is also actively fucked over by the EU. The angriest I've seen a Polish man is him explaining how Germany and the EU regulated the Polish tractor industry and cheese industries out of existence. We're living in a system which is meant to be "free market" unmolested by government but several countries just blatantly ignore this rule and aren't called out on it because if everybody starts untangling their economies from each other then I imagine some people would start to worry. The UK has the means for plenty of industries, but through environmental regulation and a self-destructive lack of foresight we fucked ourselves. We've got the gas to help produce excess energy and enough waste product to create a potential nitrogen fertiliser industry, which in turn would help our own farms via cheaper locally produced fertiliser and help everybody else through cheapening gas/electricity prices, but we hinder ourselves not just for the environment, but because our farmers being able to produce in excess allows them to undercut foreign farmers which in turn gives us greater independence from foreign food producers, and excess power is cheaper power but undercuts the for-profit businesses that provide it to our people. That's just a couple but you can see the why/why-nots with every retarded thing and contradiction there is. What are the chances we had lockdowns at all because remaining open would put us at risk of undercutting our neighbour's economies which'd provoke a diplomatic faux pas behind doors?

The Tories are shit (Lockdowns + Online Safety Act (shared with Labour) + Boriswave + Truss coup + Brexit mishandling + May + LibDem coalition preventing powerplant construction and legalising gay marriage + refusing to undo any Labour legislation preventing them from solving problems because they rely on those problems to keep being elected)
Labour are shit (Equality Act on their way out in 2010 stopped us putting a 300k a year immigration cap because we can no longer discriminate based on nationality i.e. every nationality except our own would be discriminate from coming here + Blair's human rights act mean in or out we're still abiding by ECHRs, which is also actively preventing us doing more about immigration both legal and illegal + immigration exploded under Blair into Brown, actively prevented from being lowered by Equality Act and CRAG 2010)
If you pin all our issues on immigration, Labour should still bear a ton of blame considering their decade of doing everything they could to increase the numbers and protect it as the new status quo from 1997 to 2010. If you think the Tories not doing more to actually un-do Labour's actions during their long time in office, then you can put more blame on the Tories for their inaction and general idiocy.

I blame both.

There's enough leeway for any party to give a devil's advocate explanation for almost anything but in the end you have a party composed of hundreds of people who don't dare do anything to actually help things because status quo is king and they don't want to rock the boat. You can hate Trump but how many politicians both here and abroad look upon him negatively because he's demonstrating that you don't have to get in and do fuck-all for the next 4 years except pass 1 or 2 pieces of controversial legislation, raise taxes, and then ride off into the sunset forever?

TLDR: They're both shit. Perceived whitewashing is only due to the fact one party is in power at the moment the other is not. Labour's track record however for anyone over the age of 30/40 is doing insane shit for 13 years (97 - 10) before giving way to the opposition, who have a track record of doing slightly less insane shit for 8 years (2010-2018) before going balls to the wall retarded in the last 6 years (2019-2024).
 
Tragon Dirtle said:
The boat scrotes also have passports or we wouldn't keep hearing about how they're tearing them up and throwing them away, wouldn't we? It's possible to get false documents like visas.

Smuggling, including people smuggling, gets through immigration all the times. Student visas have been a much bigger source of illegal immigration than the boats have, which is why they've restricted them.
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Why are the boat scrotes coming on boats, when they could just fly?

Look man, I honestly think you just need to sit down and have a little think about these things. Your worldview is just not logically consistent.

Yes there is illegal immigration through people overstaying visas, illegally getting visas, forging documents.

Does that mean there's "no meaningful barrier" for someone in Rwanda, compared to someone in Calais? There's hundreds of thousands of answers to that question every year. I really hope you're not saying stuff like this in real life, because you will look silly.
 
>IMPLYING said:
we hinder ourselves not just for the environment
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The country that invented the steel mill has no active steel mills. The country that invented the fucking industrial revolution has no industry. The country that invented electricity has an insanely high ppkWh because we seemingly decided to stop investing in infrastructure the Victorians had figured out. The country that invented the majority of the fucking world is reliant on the world's biggest shitholes to provide us with what we invented. The country that conquered the entire fucking world on the resources from a single rainy shithole in the middle of nowhere now cannot exist without having hostile powers provide resources we have but have just fucking decided to not use.

And continues to import even more foreigners that will live a first world life, ie the most energy intensive life that pollutes the most, that will in turn be used to demand more green bullshit from the faggots that think a solar panel in Scotland will create less pollution than nuclear all because they are funded by fucking solar panel companies that got paid by traditional coal type companies ala pepsi sponsoring the olympics. Not to mention the physical pollution, I'm sure we have all seen the ganges and just india in general. Can't wait for England to become the highest ocean polluter per capita because we imported all the retards that throw shit in the sea from india. Basically fucking nuke india, hell the entire fucking region, for the environment of course.
 
Clem Fandango said:
Why are the boat scrotes coming on boats, when they could just fly?

Look man, I honestly think you just need to sit down and have a little think about these things. Your worldview is just not logically consistent.

Yes there is illegal immigration through people overstaying visas, illegally getting visas, forging documents.

Does that mean there's "no meaningful barrier" for someone in Rwanda, compared to someone in Calais? There's hundreds of thousands of answers to that question every year. I really hope you're not saying stuff like this in real life, because you will look silly.
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I think you need to think about it, because there's no reason they can't get a plane and then pay it off through slave labour, which is how they afford the dinghies. It's just a lot easier to claim asylum or unknown status if nobody's sure exactly when or how you got here, when there is documentation of you coming through an airport - even if it's fake. It's just easier and cheaper to do it by dinghy. If it wasn't easy, thousands of them wouldn't be coming across.

You say that there's a meaningful barrier from Rwanda, but that's a hypothetical - we don't know if it would have been too difficult to get a plane back, because the tories never actually sent any immigrants there, so we never got to find out. You're just assuming that it would have been too hard. You don't know.

Snackbarism said:

That's him fucked now. A trip to the tunnel will be in the iternary. We can only hope in time that the same title removals are done for Prince Cuck and his wife.
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He's not going to be tunneled, he's going to Abu Dhabi:

>IMPLYING said:
Labour = Tories = Lib Dems = Greens = Your Party (Corbyn) = SNP = Sinn Feinn = Plaid Cmry > Any party that isn't one of these parties
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Again, I know you say any party, but you still managed to leave reform out. Why is everybody dropping the ball when it comes to defending reform and avoiding the subject?
 
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