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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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At this point I'd honestly want to ask anyone still voting Labour why?

I tried to come up with a funny answer only to realise I couldn't think of any answer to the question, comedy or otherwise. At this point I doubt even Kier Starmer's mum would vote for him.

Stepping aside from the big headline of Reform's success, I also note with interest that Your Party has polled impressively well. Outdoing the Greens. And people might think that's a low bar but for a new party coming out of "nowhere", that's a very impressive beachhead into the political establishment, imo.

I'm also wondering what exactly the Tories can do to claw some seats out of this mess. They're paying a far heavier price than Labour for the simple reason that they overlap more with Reform politically. Anyone who wants to oppose Reform is unlikely to pick the Tories as their protest vote. They've got options to either try and out do Reform to the Right, which would be tricky. Though I still say if they pledged to reintroduce Capital Punishment that would get them some votes. ;) Or, I don't know - hope Reform go so far extreme that the Tories can position themselves as the middle ground between extremes.

Anyway, likely still a few years off from any GE so anything could happen. And right now TPTB will doing everything they can to buy up Reform candidates and get their wonks in positions of power in the private company party so that if and when Reform win, it's business as usual.
 
Because THATCHER stole their milk.
Oh god mate, I nearly came to blows with a volunteer at a museum in Scotland recently. He told us "Thatcher took away milk from all the children", soi told him no, that's wrong, in 1968, Harold Wilsons Labour Government took away free at point of use milk from senior school kids; Thatcher, in her capacity as Education Minister, removed it from junior school kids.

He tried to tell me I'm wrong; and I don't take kindly to being spoken down to by stupid old bastards.

These leftoid spastics who can't get over the fact Labour suck as much as the Tories are far more irritating than any BNP skinheads I know. At least the Nazis have a sense of humour.
 
Oh god mate, I nearly came to blows with a volunteer at a museum in Scotland recently. He told us "Thatcher took away milk from all the children", soi told him no, that's wrong, in 1968, Harold Wilsons Labour Government took away free at point of use milk from senior school kids; Thatcher, in her capacity as Education Minister, removed it from junior school kids.

He tried to tell me I'm wrong; and I don't take kindly to being spoken down to by stupid old bastards.

These leftoid spastics who can't get over the fact Labour suck as much as the Tories are far more irritating than any BNP skinheads I know. At least the Nazis have a sense of humour.
Same in South Wales, they get angry when you point out with facts that Wilson closed more mines than Thatcher did.

Most Labour voters now state that Farage caused the migration problem and not the EU.

They are like some of the Jews, argument wise - 'I'm not wrong, I can never be wrong and I'll claim victimhood if you dare to disagree with me.'

Only very of them will actually say 'fine, we are/were as bad, and next time I won't back them.'
 
People don't want to have to think about politics, they don't want to have parse through eight layers of bullshit, lies and politicking to reach the one or two people that say "I don't think the British should be wiped from the Earth by hordes of subhumans.". I get it, it's insane that they are forced to have to deal with this bullshit, it's easier just to abstract it away into soundbytes and supporting teams. Politics is fucking gay. But unfortunately we are all citizens and thus agree to engage in politics. So they need to get a fucking grip and start doing something.
 
Polanski is now backing Welsh and Scottish independence, and don't get me wrong we need a revival of real UK cultures, traditions, and language (even the C*rnish and Manx) to bring back our heritage and community, but I thought that being United and Many Cultures Together as One or whatever was what made us ✨special✨? What gives the Scots and Welsh the right to self determination but not the English then? Scouse Independence when?
 
I try not to talk politics with people simply because the older you get, the more likely you're dealing with someone whose political knowledge peaked at one specific election and they're using that knowledge as the basis of their political views decades later.

I mean people are legitimately saying they'd vote Tory despite their recent stint in power.
 
Polanski is now backing Welsh and Scottish independence, and don't get me wrong we need a revival of real UK cultures, traditions, and language (even the C*rnish and Manx) to bring back our heritage and community, but I thought that being United and Many Cultures Together as One or whatever was what made us ✨special✨? What gives the Scots and Welsh the right to self determination but not the English then? Scouse Independence when?
In a perfect world I'd have a vote for English independence and leave Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland all seething as they'll have to grow up and be actual countries instead of cancerous leeches.
 
Polanski is now backing Welsh and Scottish independence, and don't get me wrong we need a revival of real UK cultures, traditions, and language (even the C*rnish and Manx) to bring back our heritage and community, but I thought that being United and Many Cultures Together as One or whatever was what made us ✨special✨? What gives the Scots and Welsh the right to self determination but not the English then? Scouse Independence when?
No surprise, but don't be surprised if the Green Party members vote against this.

They're about 50/50 on Independence, some want it, some are more keen on other things like virtue signalling about how good Dr. Umbongo from the Congo is.

Good news about Reform UK, and also the idiot Oxford Union member who mouthed off about Charlie Kirk now faces expulsion from the Union and he's salty bae about it.

Plus, it looks now as if some of the Reeves haters within Labour might try and sabotage the Budget.

There's now the realistic chance of an Opposition Day Motion against it next month - if it doesn't pass then it's bye bye to them. The IMF apparently aren't impressed with Reeves' red lines.
 
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A cousin of mine has officially left the UK. He went to uni late, and finished late at 28. Took two years out to retrain as an electrician after not finding any chemistry jobs that paid above 30K pre-tax; and has now fucked off to 'Stralia to work fly in fly out work as a mine electrician. It's insane the difference in wage - even accounting living costs - he's able to pull in over there. The UK exists at this point to train professionals, piss in their eye and then pat them on the ass as they leave.
 
Hello fren, I don’t post here because I am ignorant in politics- but I do come and read.
anyway, the bomb maker white guy I posted about last Summer is in court.

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A "nerdy" autistic heroin user who liked "doing science" has gone on trial charged with making explosive substances in his garden shed.

Harry Whittaker, 33, has denied two allegations of making explosive substances, and four of possessing explosive substances, at the Old Bailey in London.

The court heard in April 2024 paramedics were called to his home in Hyde Road, Caddington, near Luton, where he lives with his mother, after he went into anaphylactic shock.

Police were contacted in May after crews reported their concerns.

The court heard Mr Whittaker, who admitted using heroin, took methadone and had been conducting experiments in two sheds in his mother's garden.

Prosecutor Emily Dummett told the jury that paramedics were called to the address when Mr Whittaker, who is autistic, suffered an allergic reaction and went into anaphylactic shock.

He told paramedics the illness could have been caused by his chemicals but also suggested that his mother's potpourri might have been to blame.

He showed ambulance crews a shed which he described as his laboratory, and said one of the windows had been broken in an explosion, the court heard.

Police were informed and explosive disposal experts were brought in to search the address.

Controlled explosions were carried out on white phosphorous - a mixture used in incendiary devices.

Blank ammunition, a syringe and a wrap of heroin were found in his bedroom, Ms Dummett said.

Radioactive substances were also discovered in the searches, along with an improvised explosive device in a drawer.

Ms Dummett said Mr Whittaker later told police he had been planning to detonate it on New Years Eve, but it had got damp, so he had stored it while it dried out.

The court heard how he had told officers he was trying to collect every element of the periodic table, he liked to have fun with pyrotechnics and was "astounded' to have been arrested.

He admitted to the police he had caused a fire while trying to make rocket fuel, but said it "was all just honest fun".

"I'm just a nerdy kid that likes doing science", he told police.

The case continues.


The Independent
A “nerdy” science buff claimed to have caused an explosion while carrying out experiments in his shed, then blamed a life-threatening allergic reaction on his mother’s potpourri, a court has heard.

Harry Whittaker, 33, is on trial at the Old Bailey charged with making and possessing explosive substances at the semi-detached home he shares with his mother in the Bedfordshire village of Caddington, near Luton.

Opening the case on Tuesday, prosecutor Emily Dummett said: “This case is all about items found at the defendant’s home for the most part in his shed but also in his bedroom when police had reason to search the premises in May 2024.”

Explosive items allegedly included: black powder; pyrotechnic stars; flash powder; fuses; blank and live ammunition; chemicals; lethal poisons; and suspected improvised explosive devices.

Some of the substances had to be destroyed by a controlled explosion to be safety removed, the court was told.

The stash was uncovered after Whittaker called 999 last April 18 to report he was suffered from suspected anaphylaxis, a life-threatening allergic reaction.

When paramedics arrived, they observed he had hives and was wheezing and agreed with the defendant’s diagnosis but had trouble working out what had caused it, the court heard.

Ms Dummett told jurors: “He said he had been conducting experiments with a quantity of chemicals in his laboratory.

“The defendant then showed paramedics inside his shed which he referred to as his laboratory.

“The paramedics observed the shed did not have any ventilation system although one window was broken.

“He said it had occurred during a previous experiment which had resulted in an explosion.”

The medics relayed their concerns to the police, who came to search the address on May 6 2024.

When he was arrested nearby, Whittaker was found to have a wrap of heroin, the court was told.

In police interviews, Whittaker said he used his lab for “experiments” and was trying to collect every element of the periodic table.

He told officers that he “liked to have fun with pyrotechnics” and was “astounded to be arrested for having an educational interest in science”.

He insisted his activities amounted to “just harmless fun” of a “nerdy kid” and denied he had been reckless.

He said that he marked bottles with a skull and crossbones because it looked cool.

He denied that he had caused an explosion in his shed, saying the paramedics’ report was “horse s***”.

Whittaker told police he did not know what had caused his illness, saying the allergic reaction could have been triggered by anything, even his mother’s potpourri.

The defendant, who has autism spectrum disorder, also told police that he used heroin in the evenings but he did not feel an impairment as a result.

However, Ms Dummett told jurors that Whittaker’s class A drug use should be viewed with a “cool head” in assessing the risk he posed.

The prosecutor said neighbours would give evidence about what they had seen of the defendant’s experiments and escalating drug use.

One reported seeing “plumes of smoke” coming over the tops of the houses in the neighbourhood, the court was told.

Another neighbour heard a “loud bang” and observed the defendant walking away fast as “thick dark smoke” spewed from his shed, it was alleged.

At times, the defendant seemed “disorientated” and incapable of opening the front door, it was claimed.

Whittaker has denied four counts of possessing an explosive substance and two counts of making an explosive substance on or before May 6 last year.

He has admitted a charge under the Poisons Act and having ammunition without a licence.

The Old Bailey trial continues.
I laughed at his “nerdy kid” description of himself- man is in his thirties.
Apparently also skipped court on the second day.

BBC - absent
The trial of a man charged with making explosive substances has been halted for a day after he failed to appear in court.
Harry Whittaker, 33, of Hyde Road, Caddington, near Luton, went on trial at the Old Bailey in London on Monday.
Jurors were due to begin hearing detail of the allegations against him on Tuesday.
But a judge told jurors the trial could not continue because Mr Whittaker was ''absent'' and they should return on Wednesday.
Mr Whittaker is facing two allegations of making explosive substances, and four of possessing explosive substances, jurors have heard.
A jury was sworn in on Monday, and Judge Simon Mayo indicated that a prosecution lawyer would open their case with a summary of the evidence on Tuesday.
But the judge told jurors on Tuesday: ''We are not in a position to continue with the trial.
''The defendant is absent.''
Judge Mayo told jurors not to speculate about the reason for Mr Whittaker's absence and said they should return to court on Wednesday.
Mr Whittaker, who is on conditional bail, appeared in the dock when the hearing began on Monday.
Jurors have been told that he is accused of committing offences in May 2024.
Mr Whittaker has entered not guilty pleas to all six allegations.
The judge has said the trial was expected to last about three weeks.
Attachment images aren’t working but he looks like a scrawny wannabe magician.

No archive bc phone tard and I can never get the sites to work
 

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I'm a big fan of home science. Don't...don't make controlled substances and randomly detonate them? I think if you have a lil garden and some land and you do it safely, you should absolutely be able to, but legally that's not the case. If you're interested in home energetic chemistry; then at least have something to do with it. The law is going to look poorly on you making explosives at home; but if you instead are making little rockets as a hobby, the law is going to be okay with that.

Also don't speak to the police and tell them that you planned to detonate explosives holy shit. Wily Pete also doesn't need to be destroyed by controlled demolition lmao, put it in a jar of water and you're good to move it around safely. The police are overreacting, but that guy sounds like an actual retard.
 
Polanski is now backing Welsh and Scottish independence, and don't get me wrong we need a revival of real UK cultures, traditions, and language (even the C*rnish and Manx) to bring back our heritage and community, but I thought that being United and Many Cultures Together as One or whatever was what made us ✨special✨? What gives the Scots and Welsh the right to self determination but not the English then? Scouse Independence when?
The independence movements want to break up the Union so each part is less capable of resisting the ethnic cleansing of their native population than the whole might otherwise be. All of them openly state they want direct control over immigration so they can bring more in.
 

Not a Starmer fan, but fair play to him over the comments that threats against Farage are unacceptable.

Can't see that will have brought him many brownie points from some.

Other than that, when even Daisy Cooper and Liz Savile-Roberts can make Starmer look like an obfuscating fool then he once again failed.

If there's any proof that Reform UK are funded by Russia or are run at the behest of Putin/FSS then surely Trump (of all people) would have made this known.

'It's Russia's fault I have a cold...'

From GB News: A lorry carrying EV batteries blew up on the M5 near Junction 30 (Exeter) earlier.

Yeah, never having an EV car...
 
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I'm a big fan of home science. Don't...don't make controlled substances and randomly detonate them? I think if you have a lil garden and some land and you do it safely, you should absolutely be able to, but legally that's not the case. If you're interested in home energetic chemistry; then at least have something to do with it. The law is going to look poorly on you making explosives at home; but if you instead are making little rockets as a hobby, the law is going to be okay with that.

Also don't speak to the police and tell them that you planned to detonate explosives holy shit. Wily Pete also doesn't need to be destroyed by controlled demolition lmao, put it in a jar of water and you're good to move it around safely. The police are overreacting, but that guy sounds like an actual retard.
You can actually produce a small quantity of boom at home as long as it's for immediate, experimental use. Larger quantities, acquiring and storing are where you will start to run into issues with the law.

What matey-boy here appears to have been doing is manufacturing black powder for the purpose of making a bomb (illegal) and then storing said bomb (also illegal). Whatever poison he had, the heroin and the ammunition are just the icing on the retarded cake.
 
You can actually produce a small quantity of boom at home as long as it's for immediate, experimental use. Larger quantities, acquiring and storing are where you will start to run into issues with the law.

What matey-boy here appears to have been doing is manufacturing black powder for the purpose of making a bomb (illegal) and then storing said bomb (also illegal). Whatever poison he had, the heroin and the ammunition are just the icing on the retarded cake.
Also proudly showed the paramedics his shed laboratory and remarked that it was probably his mums fault with her stupid smelly leaves that gave him the allergic reaction haha.
“yes, your honour, I do shoot drugs every day but it doesn’t fuck me up. And yes i was making bombs to explode but I didn’t mean to make that one explode it just happened.”
 
You can actually produce a small quantity of boom at home as long as it's for immediate, experimental use. Larger quantities, acquiring and storing are where you will start to run into issues with the law.

What matey-boy here appears to have been doing is manufacturing black powder for the purpose of making a bomb (illegal) and then storing said bomb (also illegal). Whatever poison he had, the heroin and the ammunition are just the icing on the retarded cake.
Somebody wanted to do a real-life 'Four Lions'...
 
What matey-boy here appears to have been doing is manufacturing black powder for the purpose of making a bomb (illegal) and then storing said bomb (also illegal). Whatever poison he had, the heroin and the ammunition are just the icing on the retarded cake.
By bomb you mean home-made firework. Which I assume is also illegal, because everything fun is.
 
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