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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[FedPostalService]

Anyone who knows the British infrastructure knows that Digital ID cannot even function. There are areas of the country that don't even have consistent 4G, and for this, you will need 5G. The UK barely has 5G, even in freaking London. I talked earlier about training, as Phishing/Ransomware are huge vectors that will get through.
Legally, Starmer can be sued, and he does not want that, as he is so despised.

I don’t think it would be an app, it would be the equivalent of the share code system immigrants use to prove the right to work or study. This system is already in place for foreigners and it doesn’t stop illegal working.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

As for the Digital ID, it is all but dead

So's the fucking king but he'll still shit out a happy eid and all that lot. Until it's dead and buried I won't believe them, even then I still won't considering it's already risen from the grave several times already.

 

[Made In Wales]

Some news from these parts which has got me angry, yet also suspicious:


Police investigate shocking break in at much-loved national museum

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-investigate-shocking-break-much-32623202

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The museum in question is just outside Cardiff in St. Fagans (mostly rural, but not too far from the Ely area of Cardiff) and can be reached from Llantrisant and Cardiff (A4119) turning down a minor road through the village of St. Fagans before descending a steep hill and turning right just before St. Fagans Railway Level Crossing. The road then ascends a hill towards Cardiff on the other side and passes near to Glamorgan Wanderers Rugby Club before meeting the A48 near the Culverhouse Cross junction.

There is one other access point (closed at 10pm or 22:00) and that is from the A4232 as it heads south from Junction 33 of the M4 towards Cardiff City Centre (the A4232 and A48 meet at the aforementioned Culverhouse Cross junction).

It is well protected with CCTV in the main buildings, castle and outside in the 'open air museum' as well to the perimeter. Therefore it is well guarded and not easy to break into - you'd require vehicle access in order to make a getaway and neighbours would be suspicious of any figures loitering in or near the museum after hours.

Staff are always present when a house/building is open, in order to provide education about the building but also to ensure that 'magpies' don't strike.

The main building would be extremely difficult to break into... unless you had insider knowledge or worked for the museum.

I hope whoever is responsible is tracked down and faces justice - it's not just stealing from a museum, it's stealing history from a country.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

I don’t think it would be an app, it would be the equivalent of the share code system immigrants use to prove the right to work or study. This system is already in place for foreigners and it doesn’t stop illegal working.

This

The resources used are unfathomable when you look into what the Chinese put into it by the hour. For instance, 15.5 million of the state serve as informants or staff. There are about 50 million adults in the UK. To monitor that constantly and securely is something the civil service cannot afford; they struggle with the NHS alone, and that is full of incompetent as fuck people. A staff of 10s of thousands of capable people is just feasible. The power needed will be something that, as a country, we have never witnessed or had. Christ, I have not even thought about the effect this will have on phones and memory, as it will be heavy on memory consumption. Starmer thinks an app just runs like Hearthstone. He did not even mention how it will affect travellers and people who are married to Brits but not British. In legalese, these people are not British citizens, and the law is very firm on that.

So's the fucking king but he'll still shit out a happy eid and all that lot. Until it's dead and buried I won't believe them, even then I still won't considering it's already risen from the grave several times already.

If no recognizable company is going to touch it, then it will be shredded in peer reviews.

The announcement was clearly a smoke bomb to distract from the Sweeney stuff, but it really revealed his incompetence and how stupid he actually is. Even as a novice, there are glaring holes, but the professionals are destroying it.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

it's not just stealing from a museum, it's stealing history from a country.

Who fucking steals from a museum? That's a 'i leave my bookstore unlocked because a thief cannot read and an educated man does not steal' type situation surely? For gold jewellery too? Yea that's 100% a brown who just saw gold and thought must be valuable. There's no way that that's the most expensive thing in a museum, just that anything with actual value would need someone with a brain to understand it and figure out how to sell it. Off to break in to the louvre just because I really like their toilets and want one for myself, all that mona lisa shit is overrated anyway.

Want to take bets on how long before some retard tries to give them to some cash for gold place?

then it will be shredded in peer reviews.

It already is being and has been for the past two decades since it was first drempt up. Everyone is already calling this fucking retarded and they still are trying to push through with it. I don't disagree with you but we're working on human logic, common sense and all that shit, not government logic.

 

[FedPostalService]

Who fucking steals from a museum? That's a 'i leave my bookstore unlocked because a thief cannot read and an educated man does not steal' type situation surely?

Guess the race is my favourite game. I’m guessing gypsy or some form of Slav.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

I’m guessing gypsy

I think you must have misread. It was gold jewellery not copper. Gypos don't need to steal jewellery from a museum they do that from claire's.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Want to take bets on how long before some retard tries to give them to some cash for gold place?

Honestly that's preferable to the alternative: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kw8dwy4dro

A 3,000-year-old gold bracelet that disappeared from the Egyptian Museum in Cairo was stolen and melted down, Egypt's interior ministry says.

A restoration specialist took the artefact - which dates back to the reign of King Amenemope, a pharaoh who ruled Egypt around 1,000BC – from a safe at the museum nine days ago, according to the ministry.

The woman contacted a silver jeweller she knew, who sold the bracelet to a gold jeweller for $3,735 (£2,750), it said. He then sold it for $4,025 to a gold foundry worker, who had melted it down with other jewellery, it added.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

Guess the race is my favourite game. I’m guessing gypsy or some form of Slav.

5 bovril and a year of razzle in albanian.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

I find it tragic that I can't pronounce the leader of the oppositions name without at least 4 attempts. (I am genuinely trying)

"Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke Badenoch" Say that fast three times.

I get halfway through and it just turns into bibbity bobbity boo. Weird

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

i fink its r8 good that sum1 tuk sumfing from the museam bc the brittish stole from africa and other places and shit

 

[CryptoHermit]

I think they voted her in so she could go full auslander raus and Labour would get onto shit calling her a porch monkey and an uncle Tom whilst she was dropping n-bombs.

Instead they’ve got a weird posh negress who is an utter damp squib and who has the personality of Karen in HR.

Should have dredged up some of the kangz who are part of the Orange Order in Africa.
Orange Order on the equator: Keeping the faith in Ghana

Ghanaian Orange Order members
Image caption Orange Order members in Ghana say their Orangeism is a way of practicing their Protestant faith
Torchlight shines on a wall with paintings of battle scenes from the late 17th Century.
It's just after 17:00 local time, so there's no power yet - the electricity comes on at 18:00.
The battery-powered beam reveals a familiar picture of a king on a white horse.
He is the Dutch-born British monarch King William III, a man whose image is on many gable walls in Northern Ireland.
But this is one-and-a-half continents away from Belfast.
I'm on the outskirts of Accra, in the home of Dennis Tette Tay, the acting grand master of the Orange Order in Ghana.
Dennis's living room is full of photos, paintings and certificates relating to the order.
He tells me Orangeism is "in his soul".
Outposts
One photo pictures Dennis in a sash, along with Emmanuel Aboki Essien, who was the first African to be president of the Imperial Orange Council, the leader of worldwide Orangeism.
"Maybe I will be the second," says Dennis with a gentle laugh.
Dennis Tette Tay, acting grand master of the Orange Order in Ghana
Image caption Ghanaian Orangeman Dennis Tette Tay says Orangeism "is in his soul"
The Orange Order was founded 220 years ago, named after the king who defeated a Catholic army at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690.
On 31 August BBC Radio 4 will broadcast Orangemen On The Equator.
It is perhaps unsurprising that the order has outposts in countries like Australia and Canada where ex-pats from Northern Ireland have emigrated.
But that is not how the order took root in the West African countries Ghana and Togo.
The first Orange lodge in what is now Ghana was founded in 1918.
Then it was a British colony, the Gold Coast.
Suspicion
A postal worker read about the order in a newspaper and wrote to the organisation in England asking to join.
The Grand Orange Lodge of Ghana, like the eight other national grand lodges, operates independently while maintaining links with the global Orange organisation.
The order says there are several hundred members in Ghana but numbers have declined.
One of the reasons why it was eager to tell us its story was to correct myth and rumour.
A Ghanaian Orangeman at the silver jubilee of the Accra Heroes of Peace
Image caption Parading in Ghana has never been controversial, but there has not been a march for some years now
In Ghana, there is often suspicion around lodge-based organisations.
Popular films show members engaged in occult activities.
Orangemen and women find this hurtful and emphasise that their Orangeism is simply a way to practise their Protestant faith.
Deputy grand master Togbi Subo II says: "The order enlightens one's spiritual living.
Watershed
"When you go deep into the learning and doctrines of the order, you know you are closer to Christ."
Northern Ireland is a much more secular society.
There the organisation is considering its future direction as the Troubles recedes further into the past.
A Ghanaian flag is one of nine flying outside the Museum of Orange Heritage in Belfast.
It is one of two museums recently opened by the order, in a project that they regard as something of a watershed.
"We have to stay relevant," says Drew Nelson, grand secretary of the Grand Lodge of Ireland.
Drew Nelson, the grand secretary of the Grand Lodge of Ireland
Image caption Drew Nelson says the Orange needs to think carefully about its direction if it is to remain relevant
"If we cut ourselves off from society and retreat behind the walls, we will eventually fade from the pages of history."
So the museums tell the Orange story from the order's point of view, and they are hoping to attract Catholics to visit.
Unity
In Northern Ireland, the Protestant brotherhood has been viewed by many Irish nationalists as anti-Catholic.
Parading disputes, such as those at Drumcree in the 1990s and north Belfast more recently, have generated negative headlines.
But the order says the true essence of its organisation is faith and fraternity, and that Orangeism's continued existence abroad shows this.
Making this programme took us from the humid, heaving city of Accra, to the sea-ravaged but resilient town of Keta, where Ghanaian Orangeism was born.
Producer Conor Garrett and I got a sense of the unity of Ghana's numerous ethnic groups on the country's Independence Day.
We also had the rare experience of observing a Ghanaian Orange lodge meeting in a seaside church with an unfinished Orange hall outside.
The journey also featured the tri-annual conference of international Orange Order members, in Liverpool, and the flagship Twelfth of July parade in Bessbrook, County Armagh.
A band playing during Independence Day celebrations in Accra in Ghana
Image caption A sense of the unity of Ghana's numerous ethnic groups can be felt on the country's Independence Day
The order in Ulster points out that the vast majority of Orange marches are like that one - peaceful and non-contentious.
Misunderstood
Post-colonial Ghana and post-conflict Northern Ireland are very different cultural contexts.
In Ghana, parading has never been controversial.
But there hasn't been an Orange march for some years now.
However, one of the favourite hymns of the Ghanaian Orange Order members is Marching To Zion.
Like their counterparts in Northern Ireland, they often feel maligned and misunderstood, though not for the same reasons.
They may be numbered in the hundreds rather than the tens of thousands, but the Orangemen on the equator have a deep commitment to the fraternity founded in Ireland in 1795.
As they have faith for new members to carry them into a second century, they also hope to see a time in the Order's heartland where belief will be unifying rather than divisive.
Togbi Subo II says: "It is our prayer that one day misunderstanding will be over in Ireland."
Orangemen On The Equator will be broadcast on BBC Radio 4 at 20:00 BST on Monday 31 August, and will be available on the BBC iPlayer.
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[Heinrich Maneuver]

I get halfway through

I said it and it summoned a demon in my home help how do i get rid of it : (

Starmer: there are people on our streets calling for the murder of Jewish people. Based department can i get a read on this??? jokes aside, the Islamic Genie is out the bottle. While a lot of the Uni protests imho will be champagne socialist tier candelight vigils and faux-revolution younguns who got keffiyehs off amazon, or those who are simply opposed to violence/war/starving children (ala the pensioners that are arrested every weekend), the synagogue shooting has changed the narrative around being pro or anti Israel or Palestine and groups are seeking vengeance.

 

[Made In Wales]

I said it and it summoned a demon in my home help how do i get rid of it : (

Starmer: there are people on our streets calling for the murder of Jewish people. Based department can i get a read on this??? jokes aside, the Islamic Genie is out the bottle. While a lot of the Uni protests imho will be champagne socialist tier candelight vigils and faux-revolution younguns who got keffiyehs off amazon, or those who are simply opposed to violence/war/starving children (ala the pensioners that are arrested every weekend), the synagogue shooting has changed the narrative around being pro or anti Israel or Palestine and groups are seeking vengeance.

Not just on Uni campuses but coming to our front doors before long.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Starmer: there are people on our streets calling for the murder of Jewish people.

Yea. I don't doubt that for a second. Now then. What race are they? Where did they come from? What religion are they?
As much as neo nazis and even just anti immigration people in general will say yea don't give a shit, there's only a few answers to those questions when you're talking about actively calling for murder and it's sure as shit not the fucking neo nazis doing the majority of it.

They include events to “honour our martyrs” and celebrate “two years of resistance” since Hamas murdered more than 1,200 civilians and took a further 251 hostages.

Absolute killer quote though. Shame they don't write shit like this for normal English people and it's just more browns. The fuck are you protesting for anyway? Roll over and let the literal terrorists rape and murder you? Shouldn't kier love that, I mean that's what he's spent the last year saying? Idk like as much as I fucking hope the entire region is turned into one giant crater holy fuck these people should be shipped over there first. It takes a special form of fucking retarded to somehow make israel look good.

“I profoundly believe we are still that same great country that welcomes all people, no matter their faith, to stand under the same flag together as neighbours and friends,” he says. “We will not be silent or indifferent to hatred aimed at anyone in our society.”

He spends the first part of the article talking about we are not being British properly and that we are not living by the moral standards we should. But also no everything is totally fine. We welcome all people, yes that includes the fucking terrorist I just spend the first half saying is a total nigger. Imagine being such a fucking buck broken cuckold you can't even bear saying something along the lines of 'we welcome all peaceful law abiding people'. Nope. ALL people. That's not even touching the fact that, no, we are not the 'same' welcoming country. Reform are going to win by a landslide because they explicitly stated you are not fucking welcome in this country. And the people you have imported have also made it clear that they are very much not welcoming of jewish people either.

It's almost as if he's trying to be the most hated person in british political history. As much as I joke about it maybe going and fucking a pig might make you more liked, I certainly like cameron more than all the other retards from that time simply because I can make funny jokes about him. Can't do that with keir. Make an exaggerated joke about him one day and goes and does it for real the fucking next.

 

[Made In Wales]

I think (maybe crazily) he is trying to piss the party off that much that he either receives a VONC and has to resign/go to the palace.

There is no other reason for it - I sincerely doubt he wants to be PM, yes he wants to be feared and have power but he doesn't want the actual work the job entails which is why he fucks off abroad all the time.

Maybe he knows it's over but he won't go until/unless he has no choice.

Much as I hate Blair, at least he wanted the job and at least took it semi seriously. Same as Brown, he wanted the job but did a shit job as PM though he was alright as Chancellor.

Starmer, for one minute, has never looked as if he actually cares about running the country - ruining it, yes, but not sorting the problems out. If he did, I would at least cut him and the Government more slack, however I can't as they are as much use as a chocolate fire grate.

Cameron was bearable but lied to the country about leading us through Brexit - he fucked off when we voted to leave the EU.

May is probably my favourite of recent times - a decent woman, cared and was too strong for the men in the party.

Johnson - Hmmm... Affable Spaffable had his good points but after Partygate, Paterson and Pincher it went downhill.

Truss - Who knows what might have been.

Sunak - Useless.

 

[ApeBass]

May is probably my favourite of recent times - a decent woman, cared and was too strong for the men in the party.

Theresa May proposed self-declaration for trannies, completely removing any input from doctors. She promised to “streamline and de-medicalise” the process, claiming it was intrusive. (Unlike the men intruding into women's changing rooms and sports...)

She cared about troons, but not the women imprisoned with rapists like "Karen" White.

 

[DreinMeinVein]

Theresa May proposed self-declaration for trannies, completely removing any input from doctors. She promised to “streamline and de-medicalise” the process, claiming it was intrusive. (Unlike the men intruding into women's changing rooms and sports...)

I quite liked May, but she was instrumental in getting the tranny shit rolling in the UK.
To cut her some slack, she probably thought she was only talking about 1-in-10,000 men. Some spad will have convinced her it was an easy way to win votes from the socially liberal. A few thousand oddballs in frocks who will keep their heads down while others point and laugh. She was wrong, of course.
Once the mean old Tories had shown some sympathy for trannies, every party that touts itself as socially liberal felt they had to go ten steps further. The overton window shifted to include full on transmania. That's a big part of how we got into this mess.

Apart from that, Theresa May is probably the PM for whom I have most respect. She spent a very long time as Home Secretary too – almost has the record. That's some proof of her abilities as a politician. "Dances like a robot" was the worst her detractors could manage.

 

[FedPostalService]

Cameron was bearable but lied to the country about leading us through Brexit

He never once said that and pretty much resigned when he lost the referendum. Soft neoliberal that he his though, he actually loves this country.

Theresa May proposed self-declaration for trannies, completely removing any input from doctors. She promised to “streamline and de-medicalise” the process, claiming it was intrusive. (Unlike the men intruding into women's changing rooms and sports...)

She was the start of a weird disease that is crippling the modern Tories; she wanted to be liked by Guardian readers.

Conservatives work best when they have a “no one likes us and we don’t care” attitude but they’re trying to be a friend to everyone, which ultimately means they are a friend to no one.

 

[Clem Fandango]

It's funny seeing them try to pin this "antisemitism" as coming from the far right. I'm an absolute turboracist and even I can't muster any animosity towards Jews because I almost never see or interact with them. I think I bought an overpriced salt beef sandwich from one of them at a deli near Baker Street about 15 years ago, but I'm not about to go burning a synagogue down over it.

On the other hand I see bin bag ladies every day, making the place look like a complete dump. I know which one I consider to be the more pressing issue.

Eta:

You do sometimes see the ones with the funny hats in airports. But again, they're not really bothering me.