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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Crunkle]

Pretty much the only part I can get behind without seeing it fucking the common man as usual. Gambling is a cancer, it's advertised constantly, it's been made too accessible with the advent of phone technology. You used to have to go to the local betting office and see with your own eyes what gambling can do to people, now it's all hidden behind flashy graphics.

I'm usually very resistant to joining the Ban Brigade because banning things is really gay and gambling is a legitimate business albeit morally dubious.

You're speaking about people like they're retarded babies that need nannying. Who are you to tell them they can't gamba? I think the only thing I'd get the gambling companies to adjust are those fucking "Sign up for £100 FREE juice!" offers. Those are very predatory and evil. But if we banned gambling, all they'd do is move to a tax domicile like the crypto casinos and we'd A) not be able to regulate and B) not be able to earn tax on the misery that gambling brings to humanity.

Ban Betfred, get Bak Choi's Basement. Illegal underground gambling markets are already a major problem in this country because we over-regulate the consumer side of gambling.

 

[FedPostalService]

I'm usually very resistant to joining the Ban Brigade because banning things is really gay and gambling is a legitimate business albeit morally dubious.

You're speaking about people like they're retarded babies that need nannying. Who are you to tell them they can't gamba? I think the only thing I'd get the gambling companies to adjust are those fucking "Sign up for £100 FREE juice!" offers. Those are very predatory and evil. But if we banned gambling, all they'd do is move to a tax domicile like the crypto casinos and we'd A) not be able to regulate and B) not be able to earn tax on the misery that gambling brings to humanity.

Ban Betfred, get Bak Choi's Basement. Illegal underground gambling markets are already a major problem in this country because we over-regulate the consumer side of gambling.

We all have to use a VPN to access this site because the government will literally jail us for wrong think and there are posters who want the government to regulate more.

It’s a deep retardedness of the British psyche that I find hard to explain to Americans.

You see it in free speech activism here where you have people who think “they shouldn’t arrest me for what I’m saying, but the government need the powers to arrest those nasty people over there, I’m sure they’ll never misuse those powers to come after me.”

It’s the one thing I hate most about this country. The sooner we ditch the slave morality the sooner we get rid of the boat monkeys.

 

[Amin Yasister]

The Brit cops let the guy walk out the hotel with his "Mom" after entering England illegally. So these dudes are free to walk around England straight after coming off a boat with no restrictions on their movement.

They put on free minibuses from rural asylum filled accomodation into nearby towns and back, so they don't have to walk.

 

[Nopenopenope]

That’s retarded. All that will happen is every firm will move to Gibraltar (like what was happening when we had the last retarded tax on it) with the online and tens of thousands of people who work on high street bookmakers will lose their jobs.

High street bookmakers are already fucked after the last round of legislation.

There’s a ton of alcoholics in the world but I don’t see people crying out to ban pubs. Just because some degenerates don’t know when to stop gambling doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to put a coupon on of a weekend.

Stop acting like a Muslim and the Bossman Jacks of the UK be free.

I'm usually very resistant to joining the Ban Brigade because banning things is really gay and gambling is a legitimate business albeit morally dubious.

You're speaking about people like they're retarded babies that need nannying. Who are you to tell them they can't gamba? I think the only thing I'd get the gambling companies to adjust are those fucking "Sign up for £100 FREE juice!" offers. Those are very predatory and evil. But if we banned gambling, all they'd do is move to a tax domicile like the crypto casinos and we'd A) not be able to regulate and B) not be able to earn tax on the misery that gambling brings to humanity.

Ban Betfred, get Bak Choi's Basement. Illegal underground gambling markets are already a major problem in this country because we over-regulate the consumer side of gambling.

What happened, did an asylum seeker shit in your Weetabix this morning? Such disrespect. Niggers!

I'm not saying ban gambling, we don't ban people having a good time in the pub because a few people can't regulate and become alcoholics. Gambling has been happening since forever. All I'm saying is the way gambling is done has changed massively, you only need to look at the income of the main gambling companies to see something has changed. Much like our asylum laws were made for a different time and aren't working now, gambling regulations need to move with the times too because on the face of it their business model is exploitative and pulling in huge amounts of money, only made possible by advances in technology.

Yes you're probably right, they will just find a loophole. So let's just do nothing right? That's the same argument fags use about deporting people etc, it's too hard, they will find a way round it.

 

[Crunkle]

All I'm saying is the way gambling is done has changed massively, you only need to look at the income of the main gambling companies to see something has changed.

This is a fair point, modern gambling is way more insidious than it's ever been. In the past, you had to take your earnings down to a gambling place and physically spend it.

Smartphones have been produced and are now being used to turn us into dumb nigger cattle that spend, spend, spend. How many ads do you get per day from slopware installed on your phone?

I don't know what you can really do besides ban gambling on smartphones. They provide notification preferences in these sites and applications directly, what else can you do? Nigger cattle will always be nigger cattle and you can't exactly repeal convenience when most of the people addicted to their phones don't realise they're addicted dumb nigger cattle.

 

[FedPostalService]

What happened, did an asylum seeker shit in your Weetabix this morning? Such disrespect. Niggers!

I’ll bet you twenty quid I don’t have a gambling problem.

Regulations are for gay Muslims to import Africans to destroy the country and silence those who complain.

 

[Mound Dweller]

Normally I'm on the side of banning banning things, but having spent a good while behind the counter seeing what scratchcards and lucky dips do to people (like Trainspotting but without as much toilet scene) I'm 100% BAN IT, "muh freedumb" can suck a fat one, nothing of value in that shit.
At least booze makes you happy for a decent while; gamba is pure suffering all round, Bossman is a funny meme but look at the absolute fucking state of him; gamba did this (and crack, but also gamba), it is a social contagion much like trannydom.
Because people ARE retarded nigger babies, you've all seen people right?

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

I'm posting here because this seems more relevant to the English side of the pond than the American side... but Graham Lineham is being considered for asylum in the US explicitly under free speech concerns.

Heard first on Liberal Hivemind, would appreciate confirmation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfvXwyson2k

This is going to be an interesting issue if it does happen, the SPEECH act doesn't cover harrassment, only libel. Somehow if a major rupture in US-UK relations occurs over this it will be extremely funny.

That being said he has to go back to Ireland, because lord knows we need more self-professed twitter addicts, suicidal, loves the NHS, and is/was suicidal (He did say he wanted to kill himself because of legal threats in an interview. Archive). To which I lol because Null has been dealing with insane loons forever and this guy doesn't have the skills or balls to build a killdozer and go after troons or muzzies.

 

[Muad'Dick]

Tax the ever-loving shit out of gambling. Simple as. Not just the companies, but the individuals too. If you want your gilded cage then you're going to have to pay for it. You'd best be declaring those winnings nigger. The American model works fine. Just reduce the threshold. $5,000? Try £100.

VAT on lottery tickets and scratch cards too. If you want to be a retard then you can pay for the privilege.

Just incorporate it all into a Retard Tax. The liberal streak in the English means you can't ban this kind of thing without some limp-dicked response, and I can't shank the old dear in front of me handing over a sheaf of lottery tickets to be checked while I'm waiting to buy some fags and a paper, but you can tax them so hard even their grandkids feel it.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Nigger cattle will always be nigger cattle and you can't exactly repeal convenience when most of the people addicted to their phones don't realise they're addicted dumb nigger cattle.

So you're saying we should ban smart phones? I'm with you on that one!

Comparing wanting to ban destructive things to the government banning good things is like comparing a self defensive punch to the face to the knock out game. Banning stuff isn't a bad thing when it results in a better society for us. If you want to say everyone is nigger cattle but you, then you need to admit nigger cattle need herding.

I understand the idea that freedom is king and any banning or censoring is bad. It's a view I held when I was a teenager. It would be a view I still held if I lacked life experience (I'm not attacking any one with that point, I still respect the view though if I grew out of it) but I'm sick of this country being a shit hole. Without restrictions in place to a lot of destructive things we're never getting out of the Weimar mind set. Getting a healthy relationship with our own bodies and minds is going to require some hard bans on a lot of stuff people like because nothing else will break their addiction. Like Otterly said with pregnant women drinking, people see the absolute limit as the recommended amount even when they know it's going to give them a tard baby. If they want to be nigger cattle we have to treat them as nigger cattle and herd them.

I'm shocked no one went in on that UKIP Woman. She seems like a political lolcow ripe for a good mocking.

 

[Crunkle]

So you're saying

I'm not saying anything, Cathy Newman.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I'm not saying anything, Cathy Newman.

Sounds like a crime. When Starmer comes for us he'll add it to your list.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

I'm posting here because this seems more relevant to the English side of the pond than the American side... but Graham Lineham is being considered for asylum in the US explicitly under free speech concerns.

How would Linehan seeking asylum even work? Can you claim asylum because you are being persecuted in a country you aren't from? Surely the reaction to any such claim would be to go back to your home country then and unless they start threatening to persecute you or extradite you, you have no claim.

The Irish government and other institutions have been silent on Linehan despite being pretty indignant when Mo Chara form Kneecap was arrested on terrorism charges. Linehan's arrest is a pretty clear cut human rights abuse and Linehan is only an Irish citizen, whereas Liam Óg Ó hAnnaidh (Mo Chara) is also legally British. The Irish government is trying to ignore Linehan's arrest completely because everyone in Ireland knows they are desperately trying to introduce similar legislation and are fucking pissed off that their last attempt failed.

 

[Smyrna]

4 Labour MPs have now thrown their hat into the Deputy Party Leader ring;

Bridget Phillipson (pro-Starmer)
Emily Thornberry (anti)
Bell Ribeiro-Addy (anti)
Lucy Powell (anti)

Several others, including Lammy, Mahmood, Streeting, Louise Haigh and Rosena Allin-Khan have ruled themselves out. It looks very much as though the Starmerites have agreed or been told to unite behind Phillipson, which means the next question is over how many antis can get on the ballot.

UPDATE: A fifth and sixth have declared - Alison McGovern (pro) and Paula Barker (anti). Again, the question is whether they can muster the support of 80 other MPs. The requirement to garner the support of at least 20% of the PLP means that mathematically, only 5 could make it onto the ballot.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Tax the ever-loving shit out of gambling. Simple as. Not just the companies, but the individuals too. If you want your gilded cage then you're going to have to pay for it.

Tax would be a non-starter. All the big gambling companies are already incorporated on the isle of man for tax purposes, though that does mean they have to follow pretty strict regulations.

4 Labour MPs have now thrown their hat into the Deputy Party Leader ring;

Splitting the anti- vote three ways, but I suppose that's to be expected. They're each anti-starmer for mutually conflicting reasons, so there's no way for the majority of the party rebels to coalesce around any one of them.

 

[Chandiler Savant]

Found the parliament Q&A through a Guido link, looks interesting but most the answers are boiler plate standard.

 

[Muad'Dick]

Tax would be a non-starter. All the big gambling companies are already incorporated on the isle of man for tax purposes, though that does mean they have to follow pretty strict regulations.

It'd be tricky, but not impossible. You just start adding more terms to the UKGC loicense. The biggest obstacle is their creative accounting. Which is a problem regardless of what industry you're looking at.

Tackling the customers of an industry or their ancillaries is much more effective than trying to tackle an industry head-on. You don't even have to legislate. Just removing the financial incentive is enough to do the job. One good budget speech can be enough to send a message.

 

[Smyrna]

Splitting the anti- vote three ways, but I suppose that's to be expected. They're each anti-starmer for mutually conflicting reasons, so there's no way for the majority of the party rebels to coalesce around any one of them.

IIRC, Labour still use preferential voting for their leadership elections, so ultimately the anti-Starmer voters should end up coalescing around the last surviving candidate (unless it is Ribeiro-Addy, who is a Corbynite crank and will put off the more sensible parts of the electorate even if they think little of Starmer).

The challenge will be getting onto the ballot in the first place - they need 80 MPs to support them as well as 2 affiliated unions.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

How shit is your local hospital?

Checked the ratings for a few areas I hate mates in who needed an ambulance in the last few years or had to use mental health facilities and some of the top rated ones are bullshit. I know of 8+ hour waits for an ambulance within a top 5 ranked ambulance region. If that's top of the country service what the fuck is below that?

Can't see any diversity shit in the ratings which is a change from the usual ranking systems here.

 

[Mound Dweller]

I was considering dropping this in the Happenings Thread, but it's more a classic case of nonces in the woodwork than anything boatwog related, so in here it lands instead.
If you've ever seen one of those ragebait clips of "auditors" then you'll have seen some footage courtesy of AJ Audits at one point, he's the ADF of these fags he's fucking everywhere, or at least he was.
He's recently taken up the cross of shouting at brown people outside the boatwog bedsits while waving a (fake) press pass, which got him super mega doxxxed by antifa n'wahs, and it turns out he's a super mega pedo:
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/anti-migrant-protester-convicted-paedophile-dxl03wnjg/https://archive.is/wEDo4

Spoiler: Anti-migrant protester who ‘wanted to protect kids’ is a paedophile

An anti-migrant YouTuber who claims to promote the “protection of women and children” by filming protests outside asylum hotels is a convicted paedophile.
Anthony Styles, whose channel AJ Audits amassed thousands of subscribers, became a fixture of far-right activism by livestreaming demonstrations against grooming gangs and immigration.
Styles, 59, recently recorded gatherings outside hotels in London and Epping during which protesters described asylum seekers as sexual predators who made local girls unsafe.
Many parents brought their young children along to the rallies, which were organised after a small boat migrant from Ethiopia sexually assaulted a 14-year-old girl in Epping, Essex, in July.
However, Styles has now been unmasked as a child sex offender who was sentenced to four and a half years in jail after being convicted of indecently assaulting a girl under the age of 14.

In 2017, he was put on the sex offenders register for life and handed an indefinite Sexual Harm Prevention Order.
Five years earlier, the YouTuber also admitted to sexually assaulting a 17-year-old girl and possessing hundreds of indecent images of children, for which he received a three-year community order.


His criminal record was uncovered by activists from the group Stand Up To Racism, who spotted his name printed on a fake press pass he made for himself at a protest last month.
The Times confirmed his convictions with the police this week. The most serious offence took place at a flat in Blackpool in 1993, where Styles sexually abused a girl as she sat on his knee after school. He was sentenced at Preston crown court more than 20 years later, in 2017.
His victim, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, was known to him through his partner’s family and frequently visited the flat after school. In a personal statement, she said she had been psychologically affected by the assault.
He was separately found guilty of possessing 307 indecent images of children among a collection of “naturist” images and sexually assaulting a 17-year-old girl.


Styles, who uses a wheelchair because of a degenerative illness similar to multiple sclerosis, was jailed by Judge Robert Altham.
The judge said: “The victim was in the habit of coming back to the flats after school. It is on one of those occasions, when she was in the defendant’s sole company in her school uniform, sitting on his knee, as the defendant watched TV.
“He only ceased from this conduct when his partner was coming in, at which stage he got up.
“Nothing was said at the time, but she subsequently raised it with her, and he made an admission of sorts. At the time, he passed it off as accidental touching.
“But in his trial, Styles denied the events ever took place. She has described that this incident has had a significant effect on her.
“There is, properly stated, an abuse of trust in this case. This is a case where the family trusted the care of this little girl to the defendant. He was trusted to be alone with her.”
The judge added that the more recent incident conviction, for assaulting the 17-year-old girl and possessing indecent images, meant he could not be regarded as a man of good character. It is understood this conviction is now spent.
Styles, from Hemel Hempstead in Hertfordshire, kept his convictions hidden from other protesters when he joined a series of anti-immigrant protests outside asylum hotels.

Video from his channel, which he has now deleted, shows him attending demonstrations, which increased this summer after outrage over the Epping incident. He often recorded interviews with demonstrators and could be seen weaving between police and protesters in his wheelchair.
Styles was part of various private groups on social media where the demonstrations were organised, including one called For The Children. He has since been kicked out of the groups after being ostracised from the anti-migrant protest movement as information about his convictions spread online.
In a video uploaded last month, Styles recorded himself following a coach full of Asian men on the M25, claiming in a livestream that it was moving illegal migrants to another hotel.
“They are not welcome. They are illegal migrants,” he can be heard saying as he filmed the back of the coach from a car. His livestream of the pursuit led to the manager of the coach company receiving a flood of abuse, forcing him to stop the vehicle.

In the video, the manager gets off the coach and approaches Styles, begging him to stop spreading misinformation and explaining that no one on board was an illegal migrant and they were all legal agricultural workers.
“People have been threatening my family” because of the footage, he told Styles, who then apologised, saying: “We thought they were illegal migrants.”
Lewis Nielsen, a Stand Up to Racism anti-fascist officer, said: “These revelations show the far right have never cared about women’s rights, they’ve been harbouring convicted offenders in their midst. The hypocrisy is off the charts. This man has claimed to be protecting women and girls while hiding his own convictions. Refugees aren’t the threat to women, the real threat are far far-right fanboys of Elon Musk.”

He has of course DFE'd but it's not much worth bothering to archive anyway, just look at his face it says it all really

100% pure Vordrakian phenotype, my tinfoil infused mind has me wondering if it's some Trojan horse shit sending in bad ones but that's pure conjecture.
Anyway, the real lesson here is don't go around with fake press passes with your real name on them.