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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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We're not fuckin talking about 9 year olds here, granddad, we're talking about 14 and 15 year old shitbags. Or at least I am. Unless things are even worse than I think they are, I think the only epidemic facing primary schools is the Skibidi Fortnite Italian Brainrot Fever.
You will have to excuse me when I don't take a soyjak avatar's opinion as worth considering in this discussion.

Kids at 14 given lots of sugar and caffeine are still going to be hyper little shits. I've seen 10 year olds and younger drinking red bulls as well. It's become part of the gym bro culture and it's a problem for all age groups. Whatever happened to people saying we needed to cut down on sugary drinks and sweets? We went in the opposite direction and now we have pre-teens going to gyms 3 times a week and acting like they're in their mid 20s. Instead of playing sports and hanging out with mates to be healthy they're doing exercise in the least healthy way possible.
 
You will have to excuse me when I don't take a soyjak avatar's opinion as worth considering in this discussion.
Ad hominem, stop being a faggot. I forged this vitruvian chud with my BARE HANDS.


Kids at 14 given lots of sugar and caffeine are still going to be hyper little shits. I've seen 10 year olds and younger drinking red bulls as well. It's become part of the gym bro culture and it's a problem for all age groups. Whatever happened to people saying we needed to cut down on sugary drinks and sweets? We went in the opposite direction and now we have pre-teens going to gyms 3 times a week and acting like they're in their mid 20s. Instead of playing sports and hanging out with mates to be healthy they're doing exercise in the least healthy way possible.
I go to the gym pretty often and have literally never seen any pre-teens in the gym, where the fuck are you going to the gym at, Mothercare? You sound like you should be posting on mumsnet with this sorta shit. Kids being hyper isn't what's wrong with kids, it's the culture of lazy parenting that has been built up that's fucking shit up.
Giving a 3 year old an ipad with youtube kids on it is more damaging to their development than giving them a pack of marlboros and a lighter.
 
I'm going to start with a year old article in which the Guardian pretends someone wrote in to talk about those opposed to voting for our Lord and Saviour Starmer so they could do an incoherent puff piece salivating over Labour's balls. Mostly because these propaganda outlets deserve that being brought up on a regular basis.

The question My partner and I recently had our first child. We live in a one-bedroom flat and money is very tight. The biggest help and support we’ve had has been from my partner’s parents, who have been fantastic. My relationship with them, which has never been bad, but always been distant, has improved and I get the feeling that they’ve grown to respect and like me, which is important to me.
The other day, regarding the upcoming election, they said they were deciding between Reform UK or the Conservatives and added: “Keir Starmer can’t be prime minister because he’s an idiot.”

I find opinions like these very hard to swallow, because I struggle seeing this point of view. It seems incredibly obvious to me that this government has made catastrophic errors and taken deliberate, self-serving decisions that have damaged this country. As for Farage, I don’t even have the words for how much I dislike him. My immediate response is to gently challenge their opinions, but when I have, I get the response that neither of them “do politics” and “they’re all liars anyway”. This just makes me want to shout more, because it directly contradicts what they’ve just said. My partner doesn’t stand up to her parents and never has, and so while she agrees politically with me, she will also not challenge her parents.

Our relationship is good and I’m grateful to them. I try to tell myself that the best thing to do is not talk about this. But I feel I have lost my integrity and get myself very worked up, getting angry at my partner’s parents for voting for a government that will directly harm their new grandchild due to stupidity. Am I simply a people pleaser?
Philippa’s answer
I expect, whether you convince your partner’s parents or not, there will be change, because most people have tired of the present regime. So don’t fall out with these people who, apart from their political views, you really appreciate.
People pleasing does not have to mean colluding. Keep up the pleasing by trying to learn where they are coming from and trying to understand why they have the views that they do. Working with difference need not be about winning or losing, but about mutual understanding. No one will feel like understanding you if they don’t feel seen themselves.
It must be hard to listen to them, especially when you consider your young child’s future. You’ll be thinking about those 3,000 new school-based nurseries and the free breakfast clubs that Labour intends to bring in, as well as their plan to introduce specialist mental health support for children in every school, plans that will make a real difference to your child, but it’s important to put facts such as these to one side, and instead concentrate on the feelings.
A person’s voting pattern is often a part of their identity, even their heritage, so how people vote is often more of an emotional choice than a rational one. I don’t think you will change their views through debate. If they were to change the way they voted, they may feel as though they were being disloyal to their own parents. Often old loyalties feel very sacred or precious and may not have words or rationale to go with them. Finding out more about their family and its history of voting might make it easier to understand where they are coming from. But don’t get over-expectant that they’ll want to have such a discussion; sometimes we prefer to leave feelings just as feelings without words.
Any talks like this need to be ongoing and undertaken slowly and calmly: remember your best use of yourself in this situation is to listen and understand rather than to convince. As a people pleaser this will come naturally to you; the moment you get worked up, they won’t be able to hear what you say anyway – they’ll just notice your emotional state. Instead, stay calm and curious. It’s natural to want to shut someone down when they espouse what you might consider to be nonsensical and it’s natural to feel some urgency to do it, but when we do that, all we achieve is to push people away, which you don’t want to do.
If you could think about having general conversations about the kinds of policies they would like to keep and what new policies they would like to see, do you think you could find some common ground and something you agree on? Keep calm and respectful and use “I statements” rather than accusatory statements; keep on with your people pleasing.
By approaching this situation with empathy and understanding, you can maintain your relationship with your partner’s parents without compromising your integrity.
Speaking of here's a Guardian author having a normal one
The crosses of St George are flying all around me. Fair to say the opening line of Three Lions ’98 hits a little differently in 2025. The crosses of St George are being daubed on an Islamic centre in Basildon. The crosses of St George are being used to deface a Chinese takeaway in York. The crosses of St George are draped over men shouting at a three-star hotel from a mini-roundabout. The crosses of St George are retailing for about £2.36 on Temu, depending on whether you want them car-window sized, or big enough to write the words “GET OFF MY LAND” in the white spaces.

Keir Starmer has declared that he is “a supporter of flags”. Alas, at the time of writing the prime minister’s position on other items of tactile fabric remains unclear. What does he think about blankets? Does he endorse or condemn the dishcloth? Not to be outdone, the home secretary, Yvette Cooper, disclosed that she has St George’s bunting on display at home. “I would put them up anywhere,” she confirmed, which – anatomically speaking – is not an image any of us needed right now.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-fees-greatest-transfer-window-premier-league
Naturally it barely requires saying at this point that the recent wave of flag onanism is a thinly disguised trap laid by the resurgent far-right, a way of sneaking its toxic politics into our shared public spaces under the guise of broad-church patriotism. It’s just a flag. How can you get triggered by a flag? How can any right-thinking citizen possibly object to this most simple expression of collective pride? Albeit an expression largely being expressed by a few lone individuals in the dead of night, which is when all great expressions of collective pride traditionally occur.

Into this stinking cheese dream of contested symbolisms, amateur semiotics and flag enemas step Thomas Tuchel’s England: refreshed and rebooted after their summer slump, facing games against Andorra this Saturday and Serbia next Tuesday.

There are, of course, more banal sporting issues under scrutiny here. Can Elliot Anderson stake a claim in midfield? Can Tuchel find a less soporific way of breaking down a low block? And yet, at the same time, this is simply a very interesting moment for an England team to be taking the field under the England flag, with all its attached mythologies and meanings.

Football has always been a reluctant participant in these conversations, and in particular English football, with its proud anti‑intellectual streak and reverence of the bottom line. After all, there are vibes to be maintained, disposable barbecues to be sold, pub gardens to be filled, Club Wembley corporate packages to be shifted. Far better to retreat into the usual bromides: no greater honour, play for the shirt, honestly thought it was a wind-up when I saw the number on my phone, and so on.


Tuchel, for his part, has made no secret of the extent to which questions of identity and symbolism and nationalism concern him, which is to say not in the slightest. On his unveiling he affirmed that he was a “head coach, not a manager”, signalled his distaste for “sport-politics”, even admitting that he could use his foreignness as a kind of impregnability cloak on such matters.

And, you know, fair enough. Seen through Tuchel’s eyes, football – even international football – probably does feel like an entirely neutral space, a hermetically sealed world where the borders are fluid and the dressing rooms are polyglot, where everyone is rich and talented, where all the football pitches are the same and all the football pitches are good.

But at the same time it is important to be clear what Tuchel is really saying here. What he is saying is that his England team will stand for nothing outside itself. It will play football, and you will watch, and it will try to win, and you will be happy or sad, and these alone are the ceiling and four walls of its ambition. Whatever you think of that as an ambition it is also a desperately tricky line to maintain, and not simply because, in football, politics has a habit of finding a path through even the most impermeable cracks.

For if Barthes – Roland, not Fabien – teaches us anything, it is that the very act of trying to mean nothing is in itself a form of meaning. Perhaps this is doubly true in a pursuit as mass-cultural as football, a sport utterly in thrall to its mythologies, its symbols, a phenomenon being constantly shattered and re‑shattered in the sheer heat of its collective gaze. However thoroughly you try to strip it of meaning – the pointless friendly, the infinite content scroll, games slopped upon games – meaning finds a way. I did promise you amateur semiotics.


Images rely on captions for their meaning. Who gets to caption an England flag? The fan painting it on her cheek? The players walking out underneath it? The neo-Nazi plastering it on a zebra crossing at 3am? Certainly not the tortured and grimacing Starmer, a man who has outsourced his dinner to a focus group and is now being forced to eat the results, mumbling “I get it, I really do” as he chews unhappily on his meal of roast chicken, custard and Haribo bhuna.

However reticent they may be to admit it, the England team that take the field on Saturday are not simply athletes with a goal but bearers of an idea. The flag under which they play is freighted with connotations and mythologies they did not author and in which they probably have no interest. Perhaps this has always been England’s original sin: the absence of that idea, empty and unfocused fervour as a substitute for thought.

But the more we recoil from defining these symbols, the more vulnerable we are to having them defined for us. As the Lionesses demonstrated so stirringly over the summer, Englishness as a trait need not be expressed in photographic negative. Like the Palestinian or Ukrainian or Pride flag, the England flag can be a reclamation of agency, a reassertion of our unity, diversity and shared values, a champion of the vulnerable, a rejection rather than an embrace of intolerance.

And yes: it is tiring to have to keep having these arguments. It should feel depressing to have to restate the basic principles of our humanity, to debate those with no intention of listening, to be reminded over and over that international football is political by its very nature.

To an extent this is simply a measure of the moment in which we find ourselves: a society stripped to a husk, hollowed and directionless, reduced to howling at symbols. But when the symbols are all that remain, they matter a great deal.
Look at our more diverse culture, with the child brides (those being fair and pointing out that both being married are children the laws are there no matter what, that excuse will absolutely be used to marry children to non-children)
An imam has been charged after two children were allowed to marry each other in a mosque.
Northamptonshire Police said Ashraf Osmani had been charged under forced marriage legislation after he allegedly conducted a Nikah wedding ceremony involving two 16-year-olds at Northampton Central Mosque in November 2023.
Mr Osmani, 52, from Northampton, is the serving imam at the mosque.
The Bangladesh-born British national has been charged under Section 121 of the Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act, as amended by the Marriage and Civil Partnership (Minimum Age) Act 2022 and he is due to appear at Northampton Magistrates' Court on 11 September.
Under the legislation, introduced in 2023, it is illegal to arrange for under 18s to marry under any circumstances, whether or not force is used.
Those found guilty of the offence face up to seven years in prison.
And in dumb news
Two male police officers who had their authorisation to carry firearms removed after posing for a photograph with singer Tallia Storm have won a combined payout of almost £50,000.

PC Steven Jones, 35, and PC Greg Tunnock, 34, were pulled from their roles following the incident in Edinburgh, which appeared on TikTok in March 2024.

An employment tribunal, external found Police Scotland directly discriminated against the pair because of their sex and the decision to withdraw their firearms "amounted to a knee-jerk reaction in response to adverse media coverage".

Police Scotland said it would carefully consider the judgement for areas of improvement before commenting further.
The tribunal heard that the firearms officers approached Storm for a photograph after recognising her while out on patrol in Edinburgh.

They said they left their vehicle for about a minute and made sure it was secure.

The officers said they had intended to show the photograph to the force's communications department as an example of them engaging positively with the public, which they are encouraged to do.

Instead, when footage of them taking the selfie was posted on social media the pair were summoned to a meeting, had their firearms authorisations revoked and were transferred out of their unit - operational services division.

Their managers were worried the incident could be perceived as sexist.

But the tribunal found there was nothing that "could reasonably be perceived as sexist or misogynistic".


Giving evidence earlier this summer, the police officers said they had suffered mental health issues over their treatment.

Edinburgh Employment Tribunal ruled that PC Jones should be awarded compensations of £24,800 and PC Tunnock should receive £23,824.

Employment Judge Amanda Jones said: "The claimants were directly discriminated against because of their sex by the respondent by permanently withdrawing their firearms authorisation and by insisting on their transfer from the operational services division."

She also said she did not find aspects of the evidence of Assistant Chief Constable Gary Ritchie, who has now retired, to be satisfactory.

She said she did not find some of his evidence "to be either credible or reliable".

"His evidence came across more as dogmatic, than direct at times and he was uncomfortable at his evidence being challenged," she wrote.

"He did not make any concessions even where the documentary evidence contradicted his position, and gave contradictory evidence."


The officers said they believed they were treated unfairly because of "past instances of misogyny" involving other officers in the firearms unit.

In 2022, female police officer Rhona Malone was handed a £1m victim payout for alleged sexual discrimination.

A Police Scotland spokesperson said: "We are grateful to the employment tribunal panel for hearing the evidence in this case and for delivering their judgment.

"It is important that we now carefully consider the judgment to gather any learning and areas of improvement before commenting further."

Ms Malone said she was relieved and gratified to know officers were challenging "archaic beliefs and questioning the integrity of those responsible for administering policy and procedure".

She added it took "phenomenal courage and resilience to hold an organisation of this magnitude to account and I congratulate the officers involved".
 
In a concerning bit of news, yesterday's PMQs suffered a major security breach.

A prankster's mobile phone was found before PMQs near the frontbench ready to play sex noises throughout PMQs.

Guido Fawkes (L / A)
 
Which is where kids often shop because they set up close to schools and in small villages. We need a law that bans foreigners owning corner shops. And another law that bans opening 6 different super markets within walking distances of each other. Do we really need Tesco, Aldi, Waitrose and Lidl all within 2 minutes walk of each other? Super markets have become so large, it's faster to walk between them than it is to walk across one.
I like there being multiple supermarkets in a small space because it allows me, the customer to pick and choose the best prices from each place and shop somewhere else if one is shite. It also ensures I can get a delivery slot as if I can't get one from Tesco then I'll get one from ASDA.

It's the insane competition between supermarkets in the UK that's forcing prices to stay as low as they are and not completely ballooning in price. Just look at the Canada or US situation as to what happens when you have one major supermarket in a district, it basically means that you're paying the prices or raising your own chickens.
 
Maybe I'm being a Negative Nancy because I'm in the middle of a house move, but I don't think Rayner is going anywhere.

As for energy drinks and under 16s my Mum was a teacher and worked in a secondary school. It was parents buying their kids red bull and dosing them up on them to get their little darlings to misbehave so they'd get an ADHD diagnosis and the parents would get the additional benefits that was the issue. And this was in a relatively nice Southern town. It was flagrant and widely known.
Fucking hell, that explains a lot. I've been wondering for years why GPs and the NHS seem to be enabling this bullshit of parents pushing ADHD/'tism diagnoses on kids. Is it going to get to the point of mandatory blood tests while screening for this shit?
 
Seems like it would lead to heart conditions if you're popping those most of your life.
Your concerns are justified.
This 2023 review examines hundreds of journal articles about the health effects of energy drinks.
They exert effects on most body systems, but primarily the cardiovascular system, in some cases causing arrhythmias and sudden death.
My friend's teen daughter drinks so much of the stuff (Monster) she has regular palpitations. Between that and the vaping I've had some heated words with my friend about her daughter's present and future health. Frustrating as hell.
 
Rayner won't go because she's Blair's horse which he's backing in order to oust Keir.

That's one of the reasons I believe the civil war within Labour is going to nuke them from orbit - Starmer would never stand up to Blair and McSweeney as all the nasty stuff about him (and some of them are apparently 'career ending') would come out before Conference 'leaked' to the Lord Kempsell directly.

The Under 16s 'Red Bull ban' is also going to be bollocks as parents will just buy it for their kids.

Anyway, get ready for the news dump... it's a big one today:


'My son's constipation wasn't taken seriously until he reached crisis point' (dump related):




Home schooling in Wales almost triples since Covid:




'Toxic' hospital trust where 'secret files' held on staff - ex-surgeon:




Angela Rayner 'used £160k of disabled son's NHS compensation to buy second home' at centre of sleaze inquiry:




Graham Linehan and Nigel Farage just mobilised America to pull the rug from under Labour's feet - Lee Cohen (Paywall):




Keir Starmer's Britain blasted by Toby Young as he declares the world has 'woken up' to Labour's free speech crackdown:




Migrants could be placed in warehouses as Labour scrambles to close asylum seeker hotels:




Could Zack Polanski just have handed power to Nigel Farage? (Paywall):




Darts wonderkid, 14, matches incredible Luke Littler achievement after winning first senior title:




'Youngest female paedophile' not being released from jail:


 
I go to the gym pretty often and have literally never seen any pre-teens in the gym, where the fuck are you going to the gym at, Mothercare? You sound like you should be posting on mumsnet with this sorta shit. Kids being hyper isn't what's wrong with kids, it's the culture of lazy parenting that has been built up that's fucking shit up.
Kids being fed junk and filled with stimulants is a problem. It's not the only problem but it's still a problem. One hyper kid can fuck up the entire class.

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I hope you're all celebrating your queerness lads. Hang your flags high and proud.
 
Kids being fed junk and filled with stimulants is a problem. It's not the only problem but it's still a problem. One hyper kid can fuck up the entire class.
One hyper kid could be dealt with by caning the absolute fuck out of him, and then the rest of the class would learn from example.
But we're not allowed to beat the shit out of little dickheads anymore.
 
Kids being fed junk and filled with stimulants is a problem. It's not the only problem but it's still a problem. One hyper kid can fuck up the entire class.
It's much easier to ban things, isn't it? Ban sugar, ban porn, ban energy drinks, ban smoking. The list of what isn't banned is probably easier to recite at this point.

The government have started coming out with this nonsense now because it has massive public support. Complete distraction and just a feather in their hat in the "child protection" aspect of the government so they can sell the OSA when the Americans come knocking about free speech.
 
She’s from Cheadle, not Mosside. It’s a nice town.
It's a nice town with a completely different accent to the one she presents. I've moaned about this before, but if she was using her native North Cheshire accent, she'd sound like someone who owns thirty acres, two horses, and three land rovers. Her norf accent is a complete put-on.

I bet she thinks Salford is part of Manchester. Everything about her is fake.
In fairness, Salford likes to play up that connection. It's part of Manchester when it's convenient, but a completely different city when it needs to grift more BBC money.

They should change those stupid pink signs to say "Welcome to (((Salford)))".

I've gone off Lean Cuisines...
Bring back the horse meat?

It's much easier to ban things, isn't it? Ban sugar, ban porn, ban energy drinks, ban smoking.
The sugar tax has had the most perverse outcome possible, too. Rather than tailing off how sweet their drinks are, most of the big manufacturers added artificial sweeteners to try and imitate the old sweetness profile. Artificial sweeteners are known to make people fatter; not just in the "I only see fat people drinking diet coke" way, but because they stimulate the same insulin response as real sugar, which primes the body to gobble up any free glucose and glycogen it can find and lay it down as fat.

On top of which, they give me a headache and a rumbly tum, so I've resigned myself to only drinking sparkling water or pure grain alcohol.
The list of what isn't banned is probably easier to recite at this point.
Some of the sheep.
 
It's much easier to ban things, isn't it? Ban sugar, ban porn, ban energy drinks, ban smoking. The list of what isn't banned is probably easier to recite at this point.

The government have started coming out with this nonsense now because it has massive public support. Complete distraction and just a feather in their hat in the "child protection" aspect of the government so they can sell the OSA when the Americans come knocking about free speech.
Except that they'll never ban them completely.

Sugar gets banned, illicit market opens up...

Same for Porn (heard that you can watch porn with a TOR browser...) Energy Drinks and Smoking,

Dark Web Markets for these will boom, whilst Sir Quiche Harmer will think he's won.

There's always ways to circumvent, plus when the people charged with doing Starmer's wishes are too lazy to not do 'Netflix, bed and chill' all day then it makes a mockery of these rules and rulings.
 
And now for something completely different

Reform +35


Explicit images of Welsh Reform councillor found on adult websites
04 Sep 2025 4 minute read

Reform UK MS Laura Anne Jones with Trevethin Community Councillor Sarah Lang – Screen grab Laura Anne Jones X
Emily Price

Explicit images of Reform UK’s newest Welsh councillor have been found on a number of adult websites, Nation.Cymru can reveal.

Trevethin community councillor Sarah Lang went viral online last week when she led a community litter pick in Torfaen with her top cut open and lace bra on show.

Following the clean up, Lang took part in a video alongside Reform’s only MS – Laura Anne Jones – who said the new councillor, “was walking the walk, not just talking the talk.”

Speaking with her cleavage on show, Lang said she had organised the litter pick because she wanted to prove that Nigel Farage’s party could, “lead from the front, get our sleeves rolled up and get in stuck in generally.
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Unprofessional”

The footage went viral on X, racking up almost 3 million views and thousands of sexually suggestive comments.

A Reform UK source told Nation.Cymru that several party members complained about the “inappropriate and unprofessional” footage – but that Reform’s campaign director for Wales, Torfaen Councillor David Thomas, disregarded the concerns.


Images of Sarah Lang appear on adult websites under the pseudonym ‘Princess Spyderlily’
A search online revealed explicit images of Lang posing in provocative positions wearing lingerie on a number of adult websites under the pseudonym ‘Princess Spyderlily’.

We also found an inactive Only Fans account for Lang under the same name – It is unclear when the account was disabled.
10/10 wood destroyer.


It amazes me that nation.cymru would post this story expecting people to be less likely to vote reform.
I’ll vote for the pretty bird with massive norks over the sheep shagger or goat shagger that she’ll running against.

Are there no red blooded males on that website?
 
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