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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

They certainly do. Get yourself up to the prom in Blackpool and go into the little tat shops. They're full of stuff like that.

I'm not going to a gay town like Blackpool. The straight people use those pens to scare off the fags there don't they?

Old age is great yet fucked, you appreciate the most mediocre things. Cookware and recipes are my poison. The in-law can buy me a book on sour dough making and some loaf tins.

I did see some of those pens in London, actually.

As a kid it was games. As an adult it's model paint sets. I'm easy to buy for.

 

[Muad'Dick]

I'm not going to a gay town like Blackpool. The straight people use those pens to scare off the fags there don't they?

The fags either get the letter opener or a drunk walk off a short pier during high tide.

 

[Crunkle]

It's fascinating watching which houses in your area do or don't have a flag raised. Interestingly, the only Muslim family on the street don't have a flag up, and everyone I thought would does.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

It's fascinating watching which houses in your area do or don't have a flag raised. Interestingly, the only Muslim family on the street don't have a flag up, and everyone I thought would does.

Good sign. Hope not hate are trying to shit on it and all the social media posts have the comments turned off. Strange isn't it?

 

[Gregis]

Never forget when he was running for London mayor and he was asking people in London if he could sleep on their floor

I had a look through the comments and while some on the top level are quite straightforward ("I was born in Birmingham and I'll die in Birmingham, and I don't like there's immigrants working in me ware'ouses"), get down into the replies and it's all handwringing. Lots of "I'm not a racist" throatclearing, people basically saying we have to get this under control only because otherwise "the far-right" will take advantage of people's xenophobia. Perhaps a reflection of whose comment section it is...

@Otterly I've been thinking on what you said, I think it's a good catch on the "temperature-taking operation" on Mumsnet as I believe you put it; the awkward, non-specific phrasing, it's very plausibly an op...but, perhaps not guaranteed. A guileless mum who wants to anonymize her story might end up writing something like that. It could also be an "op" by some mum who saw a news story and was concerned and wants to see what people think, taking the temperature on her own initiative. I've also encountered a phenomenon where someone will post a kind of strawman, concern-trolling "oh gosh look at these nazis, aren't they wrong about xyz?" thing because they know exactly what arguments the local rightwing death squads will have cued up in response (it's not necessary for the death squads to be in on it); they're just trying to expose a space to these discussions and redpill people without being seen as the racist sperg who brought it up out of nowhere. Come to mention it, does this last possibility not seem eminently plausible? That phrasing about how the sight of a painted red cross made her "almost throw up"?

Regardless, while there were people who bit, predictably and reasonably, on that hyperbole, the tenor of conversation on the old MN is certainly quite unlike what you find here. In fact, plenty of posters were just agreeing with the sentiment of the OP, expressing their disapproval of the flags, talking about how it's just that naughty Tommy Robinson funding all this nonsense and stirring up people's worst emotions. How out of touch, am I right? They just want to frame their opposition as paid-for agitators, a phantom, and believe there isn't any real incompatible political principle with which to grapple. However, this is more or less analogous to a dismissal of those same posters as a demoralization campaign by intelligence agents. I'm perfectly willing to believe the mums are mostly real people who want to close their eyes and make the bad racists go away, just as you incorrigible racists are real, and have real opinions with actual meat to them, and will be voting...but also might have a tendency to dismiss real opposing sentiment as glow in the dark shenanigans.

Even with recent Reform successes, things may be much more of an uphill battle than you'd like. People don't change everything about who they are overnight, even when their votes do. What percentage of Reform voters do you think fit this profile: "We need to slow down immigration radically and even send some people back! However, I still believe that eventually white people should become extinct and be replaced by Muslims, it's just they need to integrate into British society, except the bits prohibited by their religion, which does not otherwise impact their politics or socialization (also race is a social construct)." Well, that exact profile, probably only a very few nutters. My point is just that more of your fellow voters may be friends of convenience than you'd like. You can't see into the heart of everyone who marches under a St George cross, and it's even more difficult to tell what's going on with the counterprotesters, you'd have to find and read their hugbox and it might almost make you throw up...

Sorry if this has gotten slightly far afield of proper subject matter for the Vegan Greggs; as I mentioned when I first brought up the subject, these meditations on glowies and self-segregation are inspired by observations across this whole part of the site, and I'd been considering making a separate thread on the subject. But, reading that comment section set me off, so into the Greggs it goes. Also, Otterly's input on the subject has been the most concrete and insightful I've encountered...plus, frankly you lot seem to be in a more interesting political moment, and it's possible that the average user here is marginally less dented than that in USPG2. Just in parting, I'll note that I'd been looking over threads from A&N from a few years ago, and things seemed much less segregated then; of course a few years ago Biden had just won and the Tories were on their way out, so it may simply be that those leftwing commie xenophiles can dish it out but not take it, and they fuck off when they're not winning. There's a (tiny; easily and justifiably repressed) part of me that wants to see the Democrats win the midterms just to see if HHH will break out of his loop and post like he used to; but that's clearly a story for another thread.

tl;dr I'm growing concerned we're schizophrenic, and do not play nicely with the other children.

 

[Failed Lurker]

Not sure if it was earlier in this thread or US politics but saw post that had Musk's retweet of Rupert Lowe's grooming gang report and the two Scottish regions were Argyle and Clyde and funnily enough Tayside, which contains Dundee, which is also where that fucking twat non-elected ex First Minister who only got the job cause turbo cunt Sturgeon stepped down, can't remember his name right now that complained Scotland was too white, got his family out of Gaza and constant race baiting about kid not getting accepted in some nursery among other things when it was more to do with him not doing things properly, Dundee is his constituency and where this kid with the knife is on the video..get this is a messy ramble post and appreciate if anyone can make sense what I'm talking about as I'm dealing with fucking high fever and head ain't working right at the moment

Thing about the video, can hear the invader baiting the two girls in English then breakout into some other language but course we know the cops are only going to charge her as "easy" win for their stats cause of Scot Gov directives...again rambling but fairly sure regulars in this thread have similar experiences across UK

 

[Kofi Drinka]

tl;dr I'm growing concerned we're schizophrenic, and do not play nicely with the other children.

Schizophrenic sounds about right. Your post is just concern trolling. What if the patriotic people who are fighting back are actually suicidal people larping? What a stupid idea.

Dundee is his constituency and where this kid with the knife is on the video..get this is a messy ramble post and appreciate if anyone can make sense what I'm talking about as I'm dealing with fucking high fever and head ain't working right at the moment

Dundee has always been a scummy place, so is most of Scotland's larger towns and cities. Even the nice places have Commie block housing where all the scum bags get put. They keep to themselves and don't cause problems outside of their own areas.

 

[Muad'Dick]

It's fascinating watching which houses in your area do or don't have a flag raised. Interestingly, the only Muslim family on the street don't have a flag up, and everyone I thought would does.

Something I only noticed earlier today, the only household around here that are openly leftist now have a "For Sale" sign up.

Typical modern leftists; Palestinian flag up in the front garden, always have some kind of political literature up in the front window... And have a visit from the Ocado van four times a week.

We didn't even have to put a wicker man up.

 

[Crunkle]

Perhaps a reflection of whose comment section it is...

The sort of conservatives that like Rory Stewart are the dejected natural Tory in the South West who voted for Lib Dems between 2017 - 2024 and the One Nation wets that have been running that party for over a decade. Sort of: "we're right of center and slightly ashamed of it".

I find him really interesting, though. Stewart is a brave man: he Lord Miles'd through most of the Middle East, totally understands most of Middle East politics and was even brave enough to camp out on a Londoner's floor, He's even had books published yet has no clue when it comes to the how and why the populist right is eating the traditional right. He didn't see the Trump 2024 victory coming and viciously supported Harris. He didn't see us leaving the EU happening and was expelled from the Tories in 2019 for voting against a no-deal.

Him and Gavin Williamson are good cow content. Williamson apparently used to have a caged spider on his desk to frighten backbenchers which is such a funny image to me.

"Oh, you're looking at Cronus. Does he...scare you? I assure you, he's quite harmless. Most of the time."
"Do you expect me to talk?"
"No, Mr. Francois, I expect you to vote."

Even funnier if you imagine him trying to intimidate a backbencher with his actual voice:

 

[Failed Lurker]

Schizophrenic sounds about right. Your post is just concern trolling. What if the patriotic people who are fighting back are actually suicidal people larping? What a stupid idea.

Dundee has always been a scummy place, so is most of Scotland's larger towns and cities. Even the nice places have Commie block housing where all the scum bags get put. They keep to themselves and don't cause problems outside of their own areas.

Ah yes, the sneering pretentious English attitude that is ultimately responsible for the elected officials we've had to deal with for last 30 years that's led to this mess and you wonder why we go ABE at football tournaments, cunt see you make plenty of these type of comments yet probably voted for the Uniparty at all times. Again look at Lowe's map, red all over dahn sawf, ain't just Dundee that's a shithole is it, seeing as you post about your experiences across different regions, nearly as bad as the fucking migrants

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Ah yes, the sneering pretentious English attitude that is ultimately responsible for the elected officials we've had to deal with for last 30 years that's led to this mess and you wonder why we go ABE at football tournaments, cunt see you make plenty of these type of comments yet probably voted for the Uniparty at all times. Again look at Lowe's map, red all over dahn sawf, ain't just Dundee that's a shithole is it, seeing as you post about your experiences across different regions, nearly as bad as the fucking migrants

Calm down Pal. Go get another orange fizzy drink to top your hair colour up.

I'm not sneering at the Scottish at all. I like Scotland a lot, but it's a run down shit hole in many ways and always has been. Rab C Nesbit showed the true face of many Scottish people and there's a reason why he was so popular. They're scum, they know they're scum and they don't want to be anything better. And that's perfectly fine with me, because that's also a part of our culture and I like those people being what they're like. Part of the charm of visiting Scotland is seeing the beautiful old buildings and then looking two roads down and seeing the commie blocks they shove all the scum in. It's all part of the culture and it's a culture I enjoy visiting.

Spoiler

And sneering down my little English piggy nose at.

I also find it funny how you get upset about the English superiority. Sorry you're unable to run your own country. If we're a bunch of Labour voting twats (lets not discuss how Scotland also votes for Labour and the SNP as Labour lite constantly) then what does it say about the jocks? Us English softies rule your pathetic little country and you can't even take it back from us. If you got out of English rule you would jump into bed with Brussels and ask them to rule your bog consumed country. You are a slave class and you know it deep down inside. Even your folk heroes are played by Mel Gibson because no Scotsman was up to the task of playing him on screen.

Spoiler: No true Scotsman

Is this poster American larping as Scottish or scum from Dundee? Scottish people are usually good with banter and the anti-English stuff is like two brothers squabbling. Taking real offense to things is really strange behaviour and doesn't fit the Scottish-English interactions. The Dawn Safh line stands out as the Scottish don't write as they speak. They know they won't be understood so they use their telephone voice with non-Scots and even regional accent adaption.

 

[Failed Lurker]

@Kofi Drinka

Wow, I can't take it, yet you post massive comment using Rab C Nesbit, you guys need subtitles to get half the jokes plus message on my profile too? Doth protest so much? Just a bit of gentle ribbing, take it easy, scum are scum wherever again, decisions made in pretty much one place and it ain't up here

. If we're a bunch of Labour voting twats (lets not discuss how Scotland also votes for Labour and the SNP as Labour lite constantly

Again, uni party thinking, independence under SNP wouldn't be with the fact joining EU, oh will break up the UK then two minutes later used the same reason to leave EU for Brexit, which really worked out didn't it so yeah I'm pretty pissed that we can't rule our own shit cause who wouldn't? Still numbers game in the set up, only 57 Scottish MPs go to Westminster, over 600 in your neck of the woods who keep going same way cause muh pension, pissing everything away so if you do rule it, sort it fucking out mate or take accountability for being big part of the shit show

 

[Gregis]

Schizophrenic sounds about right. Your post is just concern trolling. What if the patriotic people who are fighting back are actually suicidal people larping? What a stupid idea.

Yeah, I know how it looks when someone's doing the "we should try and get more liberals round here to debate " bit. I've seen it in a few different spots. When I was younger and a bit less decided in my views, I would feel that way sometimes. Now I'm more decided, but...it's just that I know they're still out there. Apologies for using an American election with which I'm more familiar, but Trump's recent "landslide" saw about a percentage point more people vote for him than Harris. Meanwhile by far the most votes any candidate ever got in an American election was Biden in 2020. Officially anyway...

My greatest concern is a half-measure, or a premature declaration of victory. One of my favorite things about Trump is that even though sometimes he'll propose something retarded, like when he was hanging with Elon and talking up the importance of legal H1B immigration, when his whole twitter feed starts chimping at him, he takes notice. I really hope you get someone who thinks he needs to listen to people like you; you should never shut up regardless. God speed you, Ken raper.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

@Kofi Drinka

Wow, I can't take it, yet you post massive comment using Rab C Nesbit, you guys need subtitles to get half the jokes plus message on my profile too? Doth protest so much? Just a bit of gentle ribbing, take it easy, scum are scum wherever again, decisions made in pretty much one place and it ain't up here

. If we're a bunch of Labour voting twats (lets not discuss how Scotland also votes for Labour and the SNP as Labour lite constantly

Again, uni party thinking, independence under SNP wouldn't be with the fact joining EU, oh will break up the UK then two minutes later used the same reason to leave EU for Brexit, which really worked out didn't it so yeah I'm pretty pissed that we can't rule our own shit cause who wouldn't? Still numbers game in the set up, only 57 Scottish MPs go to Westminster, over 600 in your neck of the woods who keep going same way cause muh pension, pissing everything away so if you do rule it, sort it fucking out mate or take accountability for being big part of the shit show

This is typical Scottish bullshit mate. The Scottish literally blame everything on England no matter what. It's what they've always done and always will do. It's always the same story whenever there's a problem. Even when Scotland fails to set up it's own systems and then falls back on the English systems they blame the English for it.

Wasn't the leader of the SNP a Muslim wanting to stop the country being too white? Is that the English fault too? Strange independent party you have there. Looks like Labour Dawh sahn. Scottish independence means replacing every last white person with a Muslim and adding Blasphemy laws against Islam.

 

[Crunkle]

Apologies for using an American election with which I'm more familiar

How dare you use an election with which you're familiar and holds lots of important lessons that we could pick up from!!

@Kofi Drinka has picked his newest hill to die on today so just leave him to it.

My greatest concern is a half-measure, or a premature declaration of victory. One of my favorite things about Trump is that even though sometimes he'll propose something retarded,

This is a fantastic point, people don't seem to understand how this works. Rupert Lowe has been lingering on the fringes of Reform for like 6 months now and solidifying a core base of dedicated fans including Elon Musk.

To Lowe and his fans, a million deportations isn't enough (it's not). To the average voter, deporting a million people is an insane and unheard of plan because we have never done it in any of our current lifetimes and the "we need migrants because we're an ageing population" line still holds sway. By continuing to push public pressure on "we need ten million deportations tomorrow", Lowe is maintaining his end of the scale, same with how the Republicans in the US maintained that from 2020 - 2024. In a few years' time, the questions on LBC and BBC Radio Norwich won't be: "do we deport?" but it'll be "who do we deport?" and "how many?".

When people realise that we can sacrifice a few toilet cleaners and berry pickers to improve housing, health and financial prospects, I reckon the next questions being asked will be: "which group do we get rid of next?".

 

[CWCvilleTourist420]

All things considered, the Woke-occupied Yookay government has reached the point of being cartoonishly evil for the sake of it. LARPing as cartoon villains is their agenda, nothing else. It's obvious, and there is no other logical explaination.

If the police state were actually about fighting crime, they wouldn't turn a blind eye to rape gangs. Same goes if the Online Safety Act were about protecting kids. If immigration gives economic benefits the UK wouldn't be going down the drain. If they actually cared for immigrants, they would make effort to better select and integrate them. If it all were about power and money, they wouldn't persecute their own flag and turn the Yookay into a Third World country.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

@Kofi Drinka has picked his newest hill to die on today so just leave him to it.

I'm just messing around. Scotland is a lovely place. I don't even need subtitles to Nesbit for I'm basically king of Scotland now.

I will die on an English hill when it's my time. Probably in a big wicker man for being blasphemous against Islam.

When people realise that we can sacrifice a few toilet cleaners and berry pickers to improve housing, health and financial prospects, I reckon the next questions being asked will be: "which group do we get rid of next?".

This will be interesting. When so many problems disappear in months of removing all the illegals how many more people will climb on the bang wagon? How many mothers wanting school places will want to use deportation to open them up to their kids? Will be a fun time.

 

[Failed Lurker]

This is typical Scottish bullshit mate. The Scottish literally blame everything on England no matter what. It's what they've always done and always will do. It's always the same story whenever there's a problem. Even when Scotland fails to set up it's own systems and then falls back on the English systems they blame the English for it.

Wasn't the leader of the SNP a Muslim wanting to stop the country being too white? Is that the English fault too? Strange independent party you have there. Looks like Labour Dawh sahn. Scottish independence means replacing every last white person with a Muslim and adding Blasphemy laws against Islam.

Missing wood for the trees again, already stated it's uniparty. United Kingdom, British Government that controls all national policies, we're prevented from setting up a national bank by Westminster decree plus devolution was more divide and conquer smoke and mirrors. The quote from Trainspotting re Shite being Scottish cause ruled wankers stand out as very true.

But if you do rule the country, then get the blame, that's what accountability is, fully accept it's a shit hole up here...again because of decisions being made in a city that has a greater population of my entire country let alone the rest of England where my relatives also live and have to suffer so no argument here that Labour/Conservatives/Lib Dem, Green and SNP are only the different side of the same coin so you're only making my point for me.

As for Scotland being the new caliphate, lmao, Tower Hamlets, Birmingstan, Bradford, Rotherham...again numbers game, its the English Channel they come across yet still end up up here..none so blind as cannot see

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I went to a Scottish wedding once. I couldn't tell the bride from groom. Both were wearing skirts and carrying hand bangs.

 

[Failed Lurker]

I went to a Scottish wedding once. I couldn't tell the bride from groom. Both were wearing skirts and carrying hand bangs.

Maybe if you weren't used to wearing a burka, would be easier to tell the difference...or did the dancing with your bells and sticks cause some brain damage? Also true females don't have facial hair that you're probably accustomed too...