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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
Oh well that's ok then, I'll wait for the press to tell me what to think, it's not like they spent the last 30 years covering up the rape and torture of young girls from council estates by foreigners. I'm sure they will fairly report on this instance of harassment of young girls from council estates by foreigners.
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She reacts in a way that is quite plain she knows what these guys are up to. But hey she’s just a rough little scrote from a council estates so who cares, right? Girls like her - countless girls, have been used and abused by gangs of men because nobody stands up for them. They call them Slags, they say ‘no angel’ and they consign them to the bin marked disposable.
The most deprived demographic in the country in terms of lack of care by the state is poor white kids from rough areas.
I dont care if she’s a gobby feral kid, and I don’t care if her mum is on crack - she’s a child and she should feel safe when she’s out playing. My God, what we have let politicians DO to this country is a disgrace. I hope our kids have a future, we need to sort this out
FedPostalService said:
Please stop posting fan fiction.
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My mate had a hatchet and we used to go and build dens in the woods. I had a couple of knives as a kid as well. They were useful for kid things, eating scrumped fruit, and general den building. My parents had no issue with me having it, and it was safe to be out dawn to dusk.
 
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Otterly said:
My mate had a hatchet and we used to go and build dens in the woods. I had a couple of knives as a kid as well. They were useful for kid things, eating scrumped fruit, and general den building. My parents had no issue with me having it, and it was safe to be out dawn to dusk.
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Same. Around the time of Rambo 2 (best Rambo film, don't @ me) we had a craze for survival knives as kids. If you don't remember them, they were those really wanky knives that had a screw top with a compass built into it (which rarely worked). The hilt was hollowed and contained "survival" kit like waterproof matches, a wire wood saw, that kind of thing. The knife itself was pretty wank, but you could still easily kill someone with one if you put the effort in.

Before that it was Swiss Army Knives. Most kids (even some of the girls) carried a knife of some sort. It was just a thing growing up in a rural area. If you went on a school trip to anywhere that had a gift shop, most of the time you would end up coming back with a knife of some description. It was just ingrained into you.

Number of kids stabbed while I was growing up? Zero. The closest we came to anything untoward happening involving a knife was some psycho kid getting a suspension from school for cutting his crush's name into his arm during a lesson, and even that was a cat scratch.

Of course we had a high trust society back then and kids weren't aspiring to be feral niggers. Nor did we have a problem with browns prowling anywhere that kids gather.
 
Otterly said:
My mate had a hatchet and we used to go and build dens in the woods. I had a couple of knives as a kid as well. They were useful for kid things, eating scrumped fruit, and general den building. My parents had no issue with me having it, and it was safe to be out dawn to dusk.
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Every kid should be carrying a pen knife unless in the classroom. They're really useful tools like you said and it teaches responsibility. If you can't keep track of your swiss army knife then you don't have one any more and that's a life lesson. Buy another through earning the money or wait til Christmas.
Muad'Dick said:
Before that it was Swiss Army Knives. Most kids (even some of the girls) carried a knife of some sort. It was just a thing growing up in a rural area. If you went on a school trip to anywhere that had a gift shop, most of the time you would end up coming back with a knife of some description. It was just ingrained into you.
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I remember kids buying weapons on school trips to Europe and bringing them home. I never understood why when I could buy my family gifts and use the stock pile of tools and weapons at home.
Muad'Dick said:
Number of kids stabbed while I was growing up? Zero. The closest we came to anything untoward happening involving a knife was some psycho kid getting a suspension from school for cutting his crush's name into his arm during a lesson, and even that was a cat scratch.
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I know of one kid who pulled his knife defensively once but that was it. The area I grew up in had a mix of posh and poor places and I was in the middle so I saw the best and worst of both sides. Drug dealing and feral council estate kids were the worst of it. But even they weren't anything like today.

Conspiracy theory time. Did the government start attacking chavs in the 2010s to paint rape victims as scum? She's a chav slag, don't believe her lies. She'd rob you if she could.
 
Muad'Dick said:
Before that it was Swiss Army Knives. Most kids (even some of the girls) carried a knife of some sort.
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That’s what I had. I had what I guess was an old army knife or something that opened up, that was quite big, and a Swiss Army knife. Still got a couple of them, keep one in the handbag (within blade limits of course, can’t go carrying around a lethal nail file and clippers these days can we?) very useful for all sorts of stuff. Need to open a parcel you’ve picked up and chuck the packaging in the recycling rather than drag it home? Done. Apple in the lunchbox? Peeled and chopped so it’s fresh. Great for camping, knives are useful all sorts of ways. Even fixed someone’s bridesmaids dress once with the little scissors on them. Shockingly I never stabbed anyone.
victorinox are now doing knives with blunt tips, which is a bit depressing. Keep your old stuff .
 
Otterly said:
Shockingly I never stabbed anyone.
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That's what any serial killer would say! We're onto you Otter killer!

Does the porn ban accelerate the amount of rapes as well? Not being able to access porn easily, which would other wise keep them more docile would also contribute to the number of attacks we're seeing rapidly increase right?
 
Kofi Drinka said:
That's what any serial killer would say! We're onto you Otter killer!

Does the porn ban accelerate the amount of rapes as well? Not being able to access porn easily, which would other wise keep them more docile would also contribute to the number of attacks we're seeing rapidly increase right?
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I don’t think that’s a logical argument tbh. We have only had on-tap violent hardcore porn for a short while, which coincided with smartphones. If anything, the rise of that has made people MORE extreme sexually. Putting that accelerant out there and then cutting it off isn’t great, but it should never have been there in the first place.
It doesn’t keep them docile, it makes them more extreme sexually in the first place. Fetishes and sexually extreme behaviour escalates in response to stimuli and feedback,
It seems like whole cultures just cannot control themselves around women, and the western world was mainly an exception to that. Not any more.
 
Otterly said:
I don’t think that’s a logical argument tbh. We have only had on-tap violent hardcore porn for a short while, which coincided with smartphones. If anything, the rise of that has made people MORE extreme sexually. Putting that accelerant out there and then cutting it off isn’t great, but it should never have been there in the first place.
It doesn’t keep them docile, it makes them more extreme sexually in the first place. Fetishes and sexually extreme behaviour escalates in response to stimuli and feedback,
It seems like whole cultures just cannot control themselves around women, and the western world was mainly an exception to that. Not any more.
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I agree porn makes people more sexually deviant. It's a rabbit hole that leads to bad fetishes and threads on the farms.

Porn is very good at making men docile. It makes them more sexually weird but it also keeps them busy and lowers their interaction with women. It's really easy to masturbate to porn and end up spending a lot of time on porn. It creates a form of addiction that overrides natural instincts. Why put effort in for real boobs when you can look at millions of them online in a single click? That does a lot of damage to men's relationships and their drives for female companionship.

I'm not explaining this well but I can say from first hand experience and experience with mates. Porn lowers the desire for interacting with women and seeking sex in men. Part of it's big harm to society is how it subverts mens sexual function and diverts it into porn over real women.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
I remember kids buying weapons on school trips to Europe and bringing them home. I never understood why when I could buy my family gifts and use the stock pile of tools and weapons at home.
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You mean to tell me you never experienced the American Psycho-like ritual of comparing your spoils on the coach back home? You never lived mate.

"Now lets see Paul Allen's knife"
 
Muad'Dick said:
You mean to tell me you never experienced the American Psycho-like ritual of comparing your spoils on the coach back home? You never lived mate.

"Now lets see Paul Allen's knife"
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Never got into dick measuring over weapons. When you live in a rural enough area everyone has a big axe in the shed and some large knives. Knives just weren't cool when they were every where and you were brought up to respect them. The type of kids that did that were usually the scummier kids who didn't have respect for tools and saw knives as a status thing. I thought they were a bunch of faggots and was way happier with the cool box of chocolates I got my Mum and the fridge magnet I got my Dad.

Remember how you always spoiled your Mother and your Father got something small and generic? That's your future. No cool gifts really thought out. You get the fridge magnet.
 
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Never got into dick measuring over weapons.
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It wasn't dick measuring so much. Like I say, everyone had them, and being a rural area there was always something nearby you could run someone through with, but thats the point; nobody was thinking like that.

Kids being kids, it was the novelty factor. If you didn't have a "letter opener" that had a buxom woman on the hilt that if you turned the knife upside down removed her bikini, then your access to the back seat of the coach was revoked.

Of course, the patrician choice was the knife that looked like a miniature claymore, but if you had that you never revealed your power level in front of the entire class.
 
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