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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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One story that is seeing a lot of traction and I believe it to be true because the department is full of people who go to the press. That story is Rachel needing to go to the IMF. Now this is actually important because it is an event that has a few moving parts.
The last time were were bailed out by the IMF was also under a Labour government. (1976)
I'm aware of inflation, I'm not being retarded, but the paragraph itself is just so surreal.
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>only $3.9 billion >largest loan ever ($22,142,130,052.72 [twenty-two billion])
>the loan also incentivised not inflating the currency.
Imagine?
Also, fucking hell, history has a habit of rhyming, don't it?
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The last time were were bailed out by the IMF was also under a Labour government. (1976)
I'm aware of inflation, I'm not being retarded, but the paragraph itself is just so surreal.
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>only $3.9 billion >largest loan ever ($22,142,130,052.72 [twenty-two billion])
>the loan also incentivised not inflating the currency.
Imagine?
Also, fucking hell, history has a habit of rhyming, don't it?
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Labour were a known quantity. They do the exact same thing every time they're in power and that's why people voted conservative for nearly 20 years. Keep Labour out was how Tories get in. But then we decided to keep the Tories out and Labour is doing what it always does.
 
You bongs can't talk openly online about your problems, where we can, though neither of us can organise real action and resistance.
This was retarded by the government. The internet was a pressure valve. It allowed Big Baz to get all the gamer words off his chest and then get on with his day. Now he has to sit and quietly fume. Then he speaks to people huddled in the corners of a pub Then people start getting ideas to do things rather than LARP online.

You can, there’s a thread for such submissions
This thread https://kiwifarms.st/threads/random_text-txt.1439/page-1907
 
This was retarded by the government. The internet was a pressure valve. It allowed Big Baz to get all the gamer words off his chest and then get on with his day. Now he has to sit and quietly fume. Then he speaks to people huddled in the corners of a pub Then people start getting ideas to do things rather than LARP online.
This is how part of the anti tranny pushback started. They started cracking down on online speech, and women just went round to each others houses or the pub and decided that that’s about enough of that kind of thing and started buying eggshell stickers, and ‘having a word’ with people in power. Online was just whinging, but it’s funny when you start talking in person you start actually doing stuff, rather than talking about doing stuff.
The techniques the government have used successfully - control of social media, legacy media, etc are losing their ability to control. There will be more protests. There will be people locked up. There will be a point where people get pushed too far and that’s when things will get spicy. It is inevitable. This isn’t a policy that can be dialled back, like winter fuel. Those immigrants are here, everywhere. Huge damage has been done, and now we are just sliding down towards the cliff.
None of this needed to happen. We could have exited the nineties and gone an entirely different path.
 
This was retarded by the government. The internet was a pressure valve. It allowed Big Baz to get all the gamer words off his chest and then get on with his day. Now he has to sit and quietly fume. Then he speaks to people huddled in the corners of a pub Then people start getting ideas to do things rather than LARP online.
Many of the younger generations believe the internet and real life are the same thing. They agree with prison sentences for calling sportsball players "niggers".
Browse any sports forum in any country for any sport or team and you will see the same ideas pushed. The internet is over and the commies voted for it.

Those who are left to speak out are only huddled in pub corners, whispering quietly and that won't change or spill out onto the streets. Everything else is performative.
 
Went for a long walk today. Around where I live and in the surrounding area there are streets upon streets of St Georges crosses flying from lamp posts and signs. Great to see them all up and we'll see just how long their allowed to be kept up before the council kicks off.
 
Many of the younger generations believe the internet and real life are the same thing. They agree with prison sentences for calling sportsball players "niggers".
I assure you little boys are still calling each other faggot, nigger and now cuck. The younger generation use different slang but the shit talking doesn't change. Hang out with young boys from your family and see how long it is until they call you a cuck.
Went for a long walk today. Around where I live and in the surrounding area there are streets upon streets of St Georges crosses flying from lamp posts and signs. Great to see them all up and we'll see just how long their allowed to be kept up before the council kicks off.
Taking down the flags would be a kick off point. The people hanging them are doing it to oppose the government and being told what to do. Removing them is an open deceleration against the country and the country is waiting for a fight.
 
Online was just whinging, but it’s funny when you start talking in person you start actually doing stuff, rather than talking about doing stuff.
Thats why the gay online privacy measures were enacted the moment the Epping protests started gaining traction. Slacktivism is one thing, people seeing first-hand what is happening without it going through the media filter is an entirely different beast. Thats the kind of thing that gets people talking in real life and the government shitting itself, not spicy memes or fart huffing on YT about how you're going to start the new Reich.

"Have you seen this?" has a lot more impact than "Have you read xXxMosley2xXx's latest Substack post?" when talking to normal people.

Taking down the flags would be a kick off point.
I'd say its already started. There was a guy in Stevenage the other night who had a petrol bomb thrown at him after he was part of a group putting up flags. Luckily it didn't break when it hit him and he was only left with a good gash on his head. I think we're going to be seeing a lot more of this kind of shit and it will boil over at some point.
 
Went for a long walk today. Around where I live and in the surrounding area there are streets upon streets of St Georges crosses flying from lamp posts and signs. Great to see them all up and we'll see just how long their allowed to be kept up before the council kicks off.

I went out on my bike today, and following all the news of flag raising in the UK, actually noticed so many houses in the area I live in, flying the national flag.

Never really noticed them before, as I live in a European country where flying the nations flag does not make you "far right" or are making a political statement. Long may things remain that way.
 
Great stock footage for a zombie movie set in Africa.

I'd actually pay to see that. Charles and Mary N'kube are two good-hearted residents of a tin-roof shanty town, doing their best to stop their children from dying from tuberculosis or having their organs trafficked, when suddenly their neighbours down the lane between the shacks start acting really strange. When they run to the aid station the white people are nowhere to be seen, now they have to contend with ordinary life in a third-world disease Hell....when the dead are coming back.

Coming back hungry.

(I realise that in parts of Africa this would be seen as reality TV, but I feel like it would make a good show. Possibly a cooking show....but everyone likes those.)
 
How can you speak out about the problems if you end up in the klink for 3 years for meanwords.
Very carefully.
I'm not even joking.
Coded language, vague-posting, and not being too performative or emotive when you say something is how you do it.
You can deny the holocaust happened, even publicly, so long as you don't:

1. Say it directly to a Jewish person. (Harrassment) (The annoying thing about how this can get defined is that if you say something publically online, you intend for it to be seen, thus you intent it to be seen by a Jewish person with the intent to make them uncomfortable. It might actually do you a service if you elaborate on why than just saying "it didn't happen" as a matter of fact)

2. Use it as basis for action. (Incitement) (Depending on how strictly you define it, the simple statement of "Holocaust = fake" might be enough on its own but probably not)

These vague conditions are why Starmer can feel like the statement "Britain has free speech" don't feel like an outright lie.
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Under the law, the "set fire to hotels" + "take the government/politicians with them" are what got her arrested. She admits there's a racial element to her characterisation of the hotel's residents, "if it makes me racist," and the fact it's with an emotional furore makes it open and shut in the eyes of our law... It's a fucking tweet by an angry house wife with no actionable means or mass following to carry out what she said. The fact she deleted it it tells us she regrets posting it, and I don't think she even got a call from the police to do so, she did it of her own volition. I don't need to go over why it's retarded since everyone here has probably already made some of their own or seen plenty already.

Still, when you compare us to our neighbours, I think we're a smidge better off. The EU mandates its members pass some form of hate speech legislation as of 2008, though there have been cases countries have just ignored it or done a bad job of it, such as Hungary or Latvia. This is why if you're in the EU, you either need to leave it to get true freedom of speech or just, I dunno, ignore it.

Regardless, the fact the migrant hotels issue has become so widespread means that any remarks pertaining to them and people inside actually help delegitimise any claims of implicit racial/religious harassment from individuals (I'll touch on this in a mo') since it makes all statements pertaining to Muslims and immigrants apart of the political discourse and ergo "safe". It's not complete Teflon to the law, but it's why people can now openly call for remigration and shit on Muslims (as a group), whilst also stressing the importance of English culture and race, and all without being immediate grounds for arrest. It also helps when political figures talk about it, since normalisation effectively launders it of intent to harass or cause unrest.

Regarding free speech the process of fixing it is thankfully less painful compared to immigration.
The big 3 are:
1. Public Order Act 1986 - passed by the Conservatives in response to a bunch of union strikes, riots, actual faggot hippies, etcetera. This is one of those things should serve as an example of why trying to silence and restrict your opposition in the present via the law might seem like a good move, but it can quickly bite you in the ass and get used against you in turn. This act did make harassment and distress illegal, but under its original definition one could reason it had to be wholly targeted at a specific individual, not just vague descriptions. It was amendment in 2006 with the Racial and Religious Hatred Act, which made stirring up religious or racial hatred with intention punishable offences. I emphasised intention because originally that was absent from the bill entirely, so any words which could be conceivably hateful of religion or race would be enough to get you a visit from the plod. They also had the word "insulting" in there too. Thank fuck for the House of Lords. Lesson here is: don't use a weapon on your enemy they can just as easily turn on you later.

2. Protection from Harassment Act 1997 - passed by the Conservatives in yet another parallel to today (Online Safety Act actually descends from an attempted age check implementation in 2017 in response to Molly Russell), with criticisms of the act back also mirroring those in the present, is why you can get the police phoned on you for perceived harassment by the accuser. Labour actually amended this in 2005 for it to require 2 instances of harassment, but the vague wording of "causing distress" means said harassment doesn't need to be targeted, in theory. Also if there's a non-public figure whose guilty of some shit, drawing attention to said person might be grounds to get you arrested. This act is the main catalyst for how/why Tommy Robinson gets arrested, this his documentaries and whatnot are percieved on either grounds of incitement or harassment.

The only asterisk to this I can give is that getting a visit for harassment is more likely to end up with a slap on the wrist than any actual jailtime or fine, but the fact you'll still be asked to take down posts because some schizo has perceived your words to be implicitly aimed at them is still massively retarded. However, once Labour added the amendment to the Public Order Act in 2006, it a conviction rate of less than half was now over half.

3. Equality Act 2010 - passed by Labour in 2010, a going away present alongside CRAG 2010. Protects against "discrimination, harassment, or victimisation" in public or private based on any and all characteristics - race, gender, religion, nationality/citizenship. The last one is paying dividends today because this act alongside some fuckery with the NHS in '06 or '07 is effectively why there's no immigration checks on people wanting to use public services or employment. Luckily requiring stuff like National Insurance numbers prevents employment in more official capacities but Deliveroo/Uber more or less get proof of your citizenship through the bank account they pay into, but since people are actively helping the illegals and the government gives you an account in which they pay money into, this act can bind their hands in what they can actually do. They can't "discriminate" when employing, but they can maybe forward on reports that X-account is just an illegal's burner.

The act is also specifically worded to be in detriment to white-only or white male-only spaces whilst protecting minority ones. You can't have a men's only club (unless it was grandfathered in), but there's no obligations for Muslims to permit women into their spaces. You can create employment or training programs which specifically exclude whites, but no reverse (obviously). Political can use "protected characteristics" in their selection criteria, which allows for the creation of shortlists that specifically exclude white men.

The biggest damage of this act though is the harassment and discrimination shit. The fact we have 3 laws which compound the same thing — harassment is super-duper illegal — is why the UK police are more publicly zealous about preventing it than other places. Incitement is illegal in the USA, but it's primarily based on a supreme court ruling, so there's not a ton of fervour. The big issue, as @Muad'Dick pointed out and most here already agree on, is the lack of bottle from the ruling parties to simply do away with it. The biggest issue I see with dealing with these acts is that repealing isn't on the table for most of them due to optics-concern.

"They abolished equality?!" "They legalised harassment!?" "They no longer want to keep order in the streets?!"

I think if Reform get in we'll definitely get some kind of free speech legislation. In fact, it's probably the only positive you can be certain of, since their viability regarding immigration is very suspect. However if these acts exist as backstop, I fear any pro-free speech act will get repealed in the future and just revert back to these.
 
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