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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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In other news that I'm sure will make people smile, Emma Watson has been banned for driving for 6 months because she got caught speeding. Hahahahah.
She looks rough. I didn’t realise it was her until you pointed it out.
Reform UK-led council axes climate emergency declaration - The council is reallocating their funding to support children in care:
Nature is healing. It is unconscionable that we are spending money on net zero rather than the people who live in a constituency and need help and services. Maybe they can even stop the rape gangs using kids in care as an all you can rape buffet.
 
Nature is healing.
I really hope so. It's a good headline, too, not just another: "Reform UK puts another 18 year old in charge of family services on X council" or "Reform UK councilor by-election after resignation two weeks into the job". or whatever.

Trying not to PL too much but I've got a Reform UK council now and the changes are going well so far.
 
remigration a la Sweden,
Are they actually managing to get rid of anyone? What about those with citizenship?
she knows exactly where she was blocked by what institutions and laws and has a very clear idea of what she wants to change to make the UK democratic again. She's talked about how even as Prime Minister she was unable to actually govern due to laws that had been brought in specifically to make interfering with the agenda illegal and how these laws need to be repealed. And she knows now how the Civil Service fight.
I have always said truss was done dirty and I think I’ve seen that interview. It was a very clear eyed look at the whole thing. I hope she’s able to convey what she learned to reform
one lad who lives nearby recently said 'we have to stop thinking about how the teachers and adults tell us to think and work out what is right for us, we only have one life and can't live it on just their terms.'
Good on him. As for reform, well I’m down in England this week and all I’m hearing is ‘reform has better sort this out, it’s the last chance.’
There is significant support for them but they have one shot at it. I hope they use it well. It’s heartening to see reform led councils drop the net zero stuff - it costs huge amounts of money we don’t have for zero positive effect. That money is limited and it needs to be spent on maintaining the services and environment of their ward. Hang the fly tippers, make the water companies bathe daily in their dirtiest outfall, and spend that money on kids in care and not on net zero bollocks. I am all for environmental preservation, and I hate seeing nonsensical greenwash done at huge cost over simple beneficial moves like ‘hey let’s not build a barret estate on this key wetland flood area.’
 
Interesting exclusive from Guido (link / archive):

Labour have apparently launched a "Farage attack" training camp for their MPs.

Labour HQ has launched “Campaign 365” – a frantic 14-part training push to win over voters. Guido has seen the latest campaign session on how to “take on” Nigel Farage and Reform UK. Strategists admit Reform’s message is cutting through, labelling it a “triple threat” built on immigration, net zero scepticism, and anti-establishment anger, lumping the Tories and Labour into “one box”. Shouldn’t come as a surprise…

The new strategy orders campaigners to undermine Farage’s “underdog” image, drag up old “questionable” comments about Putin and the NHS, and portray Reform as a personal vanity project with Farage as the “king.”

Campaigners say Reform has to be taken “seriously” but insist that it could witness its “destruction” at the hands of Farage’s “ability to fall out with people that don’t fall into line is phenomenal… it’s a pathological situation seemingly throughout most of his life.”


According to the strategists Labour’s internal polling shows one in five of their 2024 voters view the Reform leader favourably. The party line now demands they highlight “why he shouldn’t be Prime Minister.”
 
Are they actually managing to get rid of anyone? What about those with citizenship?
They are. Net migration is negative as of last year, with fewer "asylum seekers" entering and more of the "new swedes" leaving again. Criminals are set to be deported more often. They're also stripping citizenship from dual citizens who are classed as a danger to the security of the country after conviction of a crime, which is a small but significant number, and one that can only be expected to grow as they start to see the benefit of removing disruptive foreigners.
 
The actual effect on any elections will be minimal, as under 25s are the lowest turnout group by age and there aren't that many 16-18yos to start with.
The problem is it will be abused by Muslims to take over places they other wise wouldn't. Muslims don't vote the way we intend them to vote. Men go door to door and do postal votes for every person in a home. Adding all those extra votes will be enough to swing places that wouldn't other wise. All the Muslim kids will vote, very few whites.
Trying not to PL too much but I've got a Reform UK council now and the changes are going well so far.
They didn't cancel enough pride parades. Which annoyed me. It should have been axed on day one.
Interesting exclusive from Guido (link / archive):

Labour have apparently launched a "Farage attack" training camp for their MPs.
What's Farage going to do to the NHS? Make it run worse? 18 month wait to see an African with barely any English skills can't get much worse. Farage will help the NHS if he keeps his deportation promises and that's more than enough to benefit it more than he would hurt it.
 
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The logical corollary to the above being that if you don't pay in you should shouldn't get a say. Right, Mr. Starmer?

The actual effect on any elections will be minimal, as under 25s are the lowest turnout group by age and there aren't that many 16-18yos to start with.
Maaaaybe. It could be that the only effect is for the Daily Mail Online to get another excuse to print photos of 17yo girls. But of the 16-18yos who do vote, which way do you think they will be inclined to? I mean when I was 17 if you'd let me vote I'd have probably gone confidently marching in there and put a big fat tick next to the Green Party. And look at my politics now!

Even though there may only be 1.5m 16+17 year olds in the country, it could tip some seats here and there. Politically it's probably equivalent of removing votes from anybody over 75+. Maybe bit less. And the below is some food for thought, it's voting intention in 2025 by age group.

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Since Reform is the thread theme at present, there's an interesting trend to note...
 
It is insane that Labour still don't GET IT. If you unleash the past against your opponent, then they will against you. This is just baiting an FAFO mandate. Mate 4 Ukrainian rent boys were caught firebombing an unlisted home. Your wife hates you, and you have been caught partying with only homosexuals, being Lord Ali and Sir Ian McChellin. You are playing with fire, and you will get burned because, out of all the political leaders I have seen, you lack the most foresight.

This Afghan mess is equally on you because you could have lifted the superinjunction but continued, instead to cost up 7 billion, you fucking targeted the most vulnerable of the natives, being the elderly, farmers, and the disabled, like actually disabled. You're a sick, twisted fuck who should never even be allowed near a modicum of power. Your party despises you.

What is funny from a witness at Reeves' Mansion Summit, no one clapped. GET FUCKED!
 
They are. Net migration is negative as of last year, with fewer "asylum seekers" entering and more of the "new swedes" leaving again. Criminals are set to be deported more often. They're also stripping citizenship from dual citizens who are classed as a danger to the security of the country after conviction of a crime, which is a small but significant number, and one that can only be expected to grow as they start to see the benefit of removing disruptive foreigners.
Updating on this @Otterly and co with an official press release. In 2023, the majority of emigrants were middle eastern and somali, which is where the majority of immigrants previously came from.
 
Updating on this @Otterly and co with an official press release. In 2023, the majority of emigrants were middle eastern and somali, which is where the majority of immigrants previously came from.
Very interesting thank you. I wonder what kind of numbers are leaving…it says online that they will offer 34k sek (that’s about 30k pounds per person to leave from 2026, which is quite a lot, you could be rich in Somalia on that. It’ll be interesting to see what that does, and of they follow it up with the real stick, who h is removal of benefits
 
What's Farage going to do to the NHS? Make it run worse? 18 month wait to see an African with barely any English skills can't get much worse. Farage will help the NHS if he keeps his deportation promises and that's more than enough to benefit it more than he would hurt it.
The NHS is completely unworkable for a population of this size with not enough taxpayers, the pension pots are completely unworkable for a population of this size with not enough taxpayers, the entire benefits system is completely unworkable for a population of this size with not enough taxpayers.

So the options are to either make some drastic cuts to the major institutions and force them to make some hard decisions over who will live or who will die (which, via the triage system they already do) or we just import a billion low IQ niggers to rape our kids and work illegal jobs which don't pay tax (making them further net drains)
 
The NHS is completely unworkable for a population of this size with not enough taxpayers, the pension pots are completely unworkable for a population of this size with not enough taxpayers, the entire benefits system is completely unworkable for a population of this size with not enough taxpayers.

So the options are to either make some drastic cuts to the major institutions and force them to make some hard decisions over who will live or who will die (which, via the triage system they already do) or we just import a billion low IQ niggers to rape our kids and work illegal jobs which don't pay tax (making them further net drains)
Remove the Triple Lock
 
Removing the Triple Lock would have done wonders 10 years ago, but now we're in a situation where we've let it linger so badly that we need to do more drastic cuts than that, and no politician has the balls to say "Well actually, your quality of life is going to get significantly worse"
 
....giving 16 year olds the vote IMO isn't too bad a thing - I'd prefer it if it were 16 year old workers only, but there we are.

Don't chidren in England have to attend full time or part time education until they are 18 years old? How many 16 year old workers are there in England?
 
Don't chidren in England have to attend full time or part time education until they are 18 years old? How many 16 year old workers are there in England?
IIRC you can leave school at 16 as long as you have an apprenticeship lined up? Anyway I think he means 16 year olds who work at McDonalds at the weekend and stuff like that.
 
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