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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Absolutist statements on WFH are stupid. It is always something that should be considered on a case-by-case basis; all this "everyone should do it" or "everyone who wants it is lazy" is bullshit. I've worked from home for nigh on 15 years at this point, with occasional stints in office for particular clients, and I always work better when I'm by myself, because that's how I function. Other people can't function that way, which is something I occasionally have to make accommodations for, but I am always less productive in an office environment than I am by myself.

It was different when I was in the trades, of course. Can't sling wires from home... but since I, like all tradesmen, had to stop for a cuppa every twenty minutes, it worked out about the same.
 
The only reason to be against WFH that isn't some bollocks is an "efficiency" argument, but if you're having efficiency problems then it means your staff are shit anyway. this is what happens when productivity processes are weighed higher than the actual output itself, the process made the purpose instead the actual "product".
If you're capable of "working" from a computer it's not a real job anyway so the argument is moot, they're all surplus people anyway.
Just another thing we can blame on money/socialist thinking IMO.
 
Eddie Riggs said:
I need to watch more British shows to understand these references lol
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Open All Hours (from which that pic is taken) was a BBC Series from 1976 to 1985 over four series (1976, 1981, 1982 and 1985) and starred Ronnie Barker (the taller and bigger of 'The Two Ronnies') as well as David Jason (who more famously played 'Del Boy' in 'Only Fools And Horses').

Lynda Baron played the role of Community Nurse Gladys Emanuel who was the lady of Arkwright's affections (Arkwright the Shopkeeper, and financially tighter than a badgers snatch, was played by Barker). Arkwright would famously stutter when excited or put under pressure (such as when somebody dared have the audacity to ask for their change).

It was a decent sitcom, not one of my faves but funny enough.

Though I'm relatively new to the Farms, and though I sometimes disagree with what people say in this and other threads, being abusive isn't good - as Josh says, we need to agree to disagree and unite as a community because there's idiots out there who'd yank this place offline for good tomorrow.
 
Made In Wales said:
It was a decent sitcom, not one of my faves but funny enough.
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It's all cringe boomerslop to me, that's why it's repeated 24/7 on UKTV GOLD.
Made In Wales said:
Though I'm relatively new to the Farms, and though I sometimes disagree with what people say in this and other threads, being abusive isn't good - as Josh says, we need to agree to disagree and unite as a community because there's idiots out there who'd yank this place offline for good tomorro
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I agree but disagree; fighting is GOOD, it is the one true test of gold and all that, unity before and after is important though, so don't expect me not to twat you if if I think you're being a cunt.
 
Made In Wales said:
Though I'm relatively new to the Farms, and though I sometimes disagree with what people say in this and other threads, being abusive isn't good - as Josh says, we need to agree to disagree and unite as a community because there's idiots out there who'd yank this place offline for good tomorrow.
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You're right man - infighting is for the supporters lounge, not here.
 
Mound Dweller said:
It's all cringe boomerslop to me, that's why it's repeated 24/7 on UKTV GOLD.

I agree but disagree; fighting is GOOD, it is the one true test of gold and all that, unity before and after is important though, so don't expect me not to twat you if if I think you're being a cunt.
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I'll get my mate the Wealdstone Raider onto you... you want some, he'll give it you!


'You've got no fans!'

Anyway, some news:

Eamonn Holmes sends chilling warning to Keir Starmer as Rachel Reeves mulls stealth tax raid:


Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/nZ9o1


Ofcom to investigate BBC over fears of pro-Hamas bias in Gaza documentary:


Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/FJoAO



FifPro blasts ‘fictional’ Club World Cup while comparing Gianni Infantino to Roman Emperor in savage statement


Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/SfkI8


Fraudster forced to hand over £42k after being jailed:


Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/GUxo8



Jofra Archer blasts 'keyboard warriors' in X-rated rant after England's Test triumph over India


Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/tup3K



Lee Anderson rages in tense Commons clash as he repeats ‘simple’ question SIX times to Ed Miliband:


Archive: https://archive.ph/0iWnT

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BongoMongo said:
Probably got more humanity than 2tier batty boy Kier.

Also all these ads for AI show happy productive workers using it and midwit spastics are buying into it. The retards don't realise, it will replace them, as it is intended. It is not intended as a tool to make their lives easier. It is for the company, to replace them.
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It’ll replace some spreadsheet shufflers, but I don’t think THIS iteration of AI is replacing anyone who does anything unpredictable, practical or that requires wrangling people. It’ll be able to replace accounts received, maybe half of image analysis and some admin functions. It’s not replacing the people in the labs, the people who work in the cafe, the janitors, or anyone in the more ‘interpretative’ bits of accounts. It’s not replacing project managers, program leads, or anyone who deals with clients or customers. It had amazing utility for a few niche areas and for everything else it’s meh.
The next iterations? Who knows
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I will say this, I do enjoy how the spackers who pushed for 100% WFH have seen their jobs get cut out completely, as naturally if you don't need to be in the office at all, why not just offshore the work to Kuwait or some run down shithole?
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Because it doesn’t work. We don’t have third world program leads because they can’t do the job. We outsource some admin and code monkey work, and frankly we shouldn’t even do that because they can’t do that either. Clients won’t tolerate it, they want someone in their time zone, they want someone who speaks English, and they want someone who can be trusted to think and act. The Indian outsourcing is locked in a rigid hierarchy, they cannot be trusted, they may speak English bit they don’t understand it, and they annoy clients. They can’t problem solve. The hierarchy means the few who can problem solve aren’t allowed to.
Eastern Europe outsourcing is a possibility but not India.
teriyakiburns said:
Absolutist statements on WFH are stupid.
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Yeah this is my view. I work mainly from home these days, and if I was in the office I’d be working remotely with people anyway, there’s nobody in the local office i work with so what’s the point of commuting to work over teams? I do need to go out to sites sometimes or client meetings and that’s better done in person. There’s no one size fits all, and my own view is that it’s blindingly obvious who is slacking and who works . Personally I work, I work quite long hours, but if they want me to be on the phone to Japan at 3 am and on a call to the west coast of the states at 9pm, I will darn well be doing it from home and putting the laundry on at lunchtime.
Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
If we're doing Ronnie Barker in a shop...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ozpek_FrOPs
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There’s a spoons called the four candles down in Oxford. Rougher end of George street
 
Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
You'd never catch me in there, I refuse to go any further south than Stoke without an array of charms and protective amulets.
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Fair enough, it’s practically tropical for me. Oxford centre is, ironically, one place I think cars (and tour groups…) should be banned from completely. Wrecks the place. The pub in question isn’t very nice, but the name amuses me.
 
Otterly said:
Fair enough, it’s practically tropical for me. Oxford centre is, ironically, one place I think cars (and tour groups…) should be banned from completely. Wrecks the place. The pub in question isn’t very nice, but the name amuses me.
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My favourite spoons name has to be the Sir Titus Salt in Bradford, named after an industrialist who was so fervently against the demon drink that when he built a village for his workers to live in (Saltaire) it didn't have any pubs.
 
WFH is good for some people, bad for others. Case by case is the way to go. If you like it and it suits your style of work then it should be an option. For some industries it's not practical or available.

Not sure how nurses can WFH. Do you use remote desktop to turn off someone's life support when the assisted dying paperwork has been approved?
 
Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
My favourite spoons name has to be the Sir Titus Salt in Bradford, named after an industrialist who was so fervently against the demon drink that when he built a village for his workers to live in (Saltaire) it didn't have any pubs.
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Will have to visit when the Bluebirds travel up to play the Bantams.

My favourite 'Spoons pubs are The Great Western (Cardiff) and The John Fielding (Cwmbran - home to Wales' first McDonalds).
 
QE65 said:
WFH is good for some people, bad for others. Case by case is the way to go. If you like it and it suits your style of work then it should be an option. For some industries it's not practical or available.

Not sure how nurses can WFH. Do you use remote desktop to turn off someone's life support when the assisted dying paperwork has been approved?
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Not being able to interact with your peers shits up so many situations. Being solo on a project instead of in an office where you can just walk up to someone and talk to them makes a big difference. Some jobs are time WFH but a lot of them aren't. For no other reason office attendance should be mandatory because it stops out source happening as easily. If you work from home, Apu can work from home and Apu wants less money than you do.
 
AI won't replace anyone, it could, easily, but so can excel. You can knock up a few excel sheets and replace 80% of the staff in a manufacturing setting. But, we don't, because like most jobs, it's jobs for jobs' sake. It has been for a while now.
Most staff in most businesses are surplus to requirement. AI may remove some jobs, but it will create 3 'do nothing' jobs to stimulate the economy.
 
Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
My favourite spoons name has to be the Sir Titus Salt in Bradford, named after an industrialist who was so fervently against the demon drink that when he built a village for his workers to live in (Saltaire) it didn't have any pubs.
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Have you heard of Don't Tell Titus in Saltaire village? Called that for precisely the reason you mention.

Spoons is pretty crap but I do like that they name their pubs after locals and there's often a history. The Percy Shaw in Halifax is named after local man who invented the cats eye in the middle of the road, for example.

You can go and abuse your liver for a semi reasonable price and learn something at the same time.
 
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