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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Oh I hear meth is alive and well in the chemsex scene

That's the reason it hasn't caught on generally. People see it as a gay drug and don't want to be associated with it.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

As for Weed, I know of somebody who takes it with her soup or green tea - she is 80, a shut-in, her knees have turned to shit and she has been in constant agony. The Weed has helped ease the pain, therefore I more than understand her taking it as the local hospital is worse than fucking useless and her Son doesn't give a damn (he's got a myriad of mental health issues, and is probably better out of the way) and I won't judge her taking something which at least partly gives her a reason to go on.

This is a good thing and it's what it should be used for. I've known people who use weed this way and it really improves their lives. There are medical reasons why it's a good thing and people should use it. It's bad as a recreational thing.

That's the reason it hasn't caught on generally. People see it as a gay drug and don't want to be associated with it.

Where's the kiwi thread on underground gay drug scenes in the UK? Which streamers and politicians will we reveal to be drugged up faggots?

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

The stark reality is that even if weed was punishable by crane tomorrow, there's no fucking police to enforce any of it. That's one of the key reasons why people are so fucking tired of weedbros, back in the 90s you'd have to be completely fucking retarded to consider smoking it in the city centre because some copper would take it from you, give you a ticking off and you MIGHT even get arrested if the copper was one of those clean as a whistle types. Now? There's no punishment for it so why not smoke it everywhere with zero sense of security? Why not smoke it with zero disregard for anyone around you.

THAT is why half the country would enforce a strict weed ban out of fucking spite. There was a perfectly fine social contract of "if you want to do it, do it at a festival or in your own homes or in the middle of nowhere" and now it's shattered because niggers and pakis and native retards can't grasp subtlety or the concept of a high trust society.

 

[Otterly]

just want to get drunk and dance with my friends!", not even your Dad did. We've all been there and we've seen what those girls do once they think they're not been watched.

I wasn’t being watched. I, and the mixed sex bunch of 16-21 year olds I hung out with managed to go to loads of gigs, have a couple of pints and dance and come home with nothing worse than a t shirt. Same as the lads did, only we had better bladder control. We weren’t drunk out of our mind or shagging strangers . At worst a bit tipsy and cringe dancing.
Perhaps we are just Terribly Old, or perhaps we were just somewhat shy nerdy teenagers, but not everyone descends into drug fuelled orgies the moment they’re out of the parental supervision.
(there’s a point of being told that all women are drug fuelled/gold digging/‘cum sluts (ffs) where one begins to wonder if the ladies at the BP zone arent actually right …. )

That's one of the key reasons why people are so fucking tired of weedbros, back in the 90s you'd have to be completely fucking retarded to consider smoking it in the city centre because some copper would take it from you, give you a ticking off and you MIGHT even get arrested if the copper was one of those clean as a whistle types.

This is the point, really. All these things that plague the city centre are things you wouldn’t have dreamt of doing thirty years back. Drop litter? You wouldn’t anyway because your mum would have thrashed you, but if you did? Someone would clip your ear. Piss in public? You’re getting a public order offence. You just wouldn’t do it. You would be shamed and taken to task and if someone like your clean as a whistle types was there you’d get arrested. Group of men lurking around? You’d get moved on.
All that is gone. Everyone’s fragmented, there are no communities. Over half the people you meet if you go it o town are brown and you know they’ll kick your head in if you object to them dropping litter

We no longer police each other’s behaviour like we used to. Now our thoughts and opinions are policed instead. So the city centre looks like sodom and gomorrah on a Friday night and there’s nary a copper to be seen but criticise starmer or a tranny and you’ll have six polis at the door in minutes.
We badly need a return to shame as a thing, and to bobbies on the beat and broken windows policing. I want the people fly tipping in the countryside rounded up and shoved in the landfill. And then frankly once everything’s nice and quiet and clean again I don’t give a toss if people go clubbing at the weekends. Not my thing, but have at it.
The root cause is the people who caused mass immigration and anti British policies

 

[Made In Wales]

@Otterly The only 'policing' that some people tend to do of each other is police thoughts and words.

If you don't like a littered-up countryside, then I'd avoid looking at the photos of the Glastonbury site today - honestly, it's disgraceful.

 

[Otterly]

@Otterly The only 'policing' that some people tend to do of each other is police thoughts and words.

If you don't like a littered-up countryside, then I'd avoid looking at the photos of the Glastonbury site today - honestly, it's disgraceful.

It is absolutely disgusting. Do they still let you in for free if you agree to be the cleanup crew? I’d institute a HHGTG style policy;

The fabulously beautiful planet Bethselamin, , where the cumulative erosion by ten billion visiting tourists a year has led to a unique situation where any net imbalance between the amount you eat and the amount you excrete while on the planet is surgically removed from your body weight when you leave.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

(there’s a point of being told that all women are drug fuelled/gold digging/‘cum sluts (ffs) where one begins to wonder if the ladies at the BP zone arent actually right …. )

BP Women are too fat too be any of those things AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAA.

But no, I've been to a few modern festivals, and they basically were open air brothels yes. But that I think was probably always going on and available if you were looking for it. Same with universities. I drank and partied and was an animal at uni, but that was optional; and a lot of people opted out of doing that. I also enjoyed boardgame nights, and D&D soc and met people (girls and boys) who were never going to touch booze; or if they did touch it, they didn't go overboard and never would.

I don't think we have an endemic problem of hedonism as an endemic problem in of itself. I think a lot of younger people are unemployed, bored, and it's something to do. A lot of them also don't drink, don't go out much and will play boardgames with each other, or walk around museums. With the rise of social media, we probably just notice the ones acting out more. On the other hand though, ~5% of British girls are creators on OnlyFans, which is a disgustingly high number.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

And then frankly once everything’s nice and quiet and clean again I don’t give a toss if people go clubbing at the weekends.

Seeing the local towns even before letting out time is like a zoo on a weekend night. Constant fighting, women so pissed they can't stand flashing the world, constant police and ambulances racing around. Taxis acting like it's mad max.

I know I'm no fun allowed man today but that's not a good culture. That's why I sum it up as Lad culture so we know roughly what I mean. No one wants to see up a fat girl's skirt while she's puking into the gutter and her best mate tries to call for a taxi. We can't have a clean and quiet town if every weekend is a free for all.

I am a good lad and I clean up my area. I don't ask any one to help or mention I do it. I will go pick up litter I see on the road side and trim hedges to keep the paths clear. I know the council won't do it so I keep my community as tidy as I can. I bought some poopa scoopers a few years back and placed them along the public footpaths and people started using them so the paths weren't covered in dog shit any more. You can make a difference with small investments of time and effort. If you only do it so you don't have to walk through a hedge or on the road it's rewarding.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I know I'm no fun allowed man today but that's not a good culture. That's why I sum it up as Lad culture so we know roughly what I mean. No one wants to see up a fat girl's skirt while she's puking into the gutter and her best mate tries to call for a taxi. We can't have a clean and quiet town if every weekend is a free for all.

I do wonder if that's maybe because of our drinking age. I hate to be a 'The USA has redeemable and good features' guy; but the drinking age of 21 in bars and pubs; does give them a softer and more relaxed night out culture. I would do Rugby socials at university and I'd get through a £40 bottle of jameson every single night we had one. I wasn't even one of the crazy ones either. America doesn't seem to have it as bad.

 

[Made In Wales]

Plaid Cymru is such a joke of a party, I feel like most people in Wales who vote for them don't understand that they'll just be an accessory to the EU and not really independant.

Exactly, they don't want 'independence' they want EU serfdom.

Sad thing is that there's no other credible opposition to Reform UK in Wales than Rhun ap Iorwerth and Plaid - Labour and Tories are dead, the Lib Dems have bled out support since Kirsty Williams was an AM (she is the cretin who said that four year olds learning about blowjobs is harmless...) and the Greens only seem to do well in Cardiff and Newport seats, possibly the Gower too as they've had increases there recently.

Reform will win the Senedd and 22 seats at the next GE - Plaid could feasibly get the other 10 which would be an all time high for them (if they can take Gower, the Cardiff seats - though the Lib Dems under Rodney Berman are rallying in the Welsh capital - and Arfon, Monmouth and Montgomeryshire.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Exactly, they don't want 'independence' they want EU serfdom.

Most of the smaller country parties are defined by their dislike of England, and the UK as a whole; rather than any positive feelings towards their respective countries.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I do wonder if that's maybe because of our drinking age. I hate to be a 'The USA has redeemable and good features' guy; but the drinking age of 21 in bars and pubs; does give them a softer and more relaxed night out culture. I would do Rugby socials at university and I'd get through a £40 bottle of jameson every single night we had one. I wasn't even one of the crazy ones either. America doesn't seem to have it as bad.

A lot of that comes from there being no real value in being alive to those people other wise. They live for the weekend and get off their face when it arrives. I don't get it myself. I've never been one to drink to excess. I could drink at home as a kid if I wanted and there was no appeal to it. You had a sip, thought it tasted crap and got a better drink. It stopped drink being something special and I think that's the best way to do it. Drinking age doesn't matter, it's exposing kids to healthy drinking habits in adults and not making it taboo so they see it as a mile stone to abuse it.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

pakis

Weed is a substance predominantly used by Muslims and mainly men, because they are, in their view, of clear mind when praying to Allah. For those unaware, Muslims don't drink because to be inebriated while praying to allah - when they touch the floor with their foreheads, it's to show they are the lowest they can be to show allah's glory in the highest - is the highest form of disrespect. To be pissed up while praying shows they have nothing but contempt for allah. So, the muslims smoke weed because they are clear minded when praying.

To ban weed, or to enforce the already law breaking act of smoking weed, would be hugely unpopular with the muslim community. There's no coincidence that sadiq khan is pushing to legalise weed for "the community" and "integration". It's so his paki mates can get stoned without question and can begin to deal without problems.
FWIW, pakis sell the best weed.

Be aware though, that not all stoners, crack heads, piss heads, gaming addicts and coke-heads are obvious. Not all stoners are slow-minded mongs, not all piss-heads have shakes and big red nose. Obviously food addicts can't hide that well, but everyone has a vice and not everyone is retarded enough to hide it.

Just like on the farms HIDE YOUR POWERLEVEL.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Hahahahahahaha. Oh no, if it isn't the consequences of my actions!
>"It is completely inappropriate. It undermines the legitimacy of religious institutions in this country if representatives think it is acceptable to try to coerce Members of Parliament."
It is entirely legitimate, that if you want to benefit in the secular world from the whole "good christian" schtick, that you've gotta live up to it too., can't have it both ways you silly libdem goose.

I'm not sure the Bible makes clear what someone ought to do if they exist both as as not in government but also apart of it.

Submit to Government
13 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will [a]bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.

Romans 13: 1-7

It tracks then if you are the government (MP or King) then you ought to abide by God's rulings (commandments, direct statements from God in the Bible or the apostles/prophets within it), which strongly pushes for the advocacy of no-association with non-Christians (Matthew 10:14) and the murder of heretics/destruction of Heathen idols/monuments (Deuteronomy and Leviticus), which Muslims both fulfil the criteria of being both the followers of a "false prophet and dreamer" (Muhammed) I.E. Heresy, or a non-Christian faith/non-derivative that refuses to convert. At a bare minimum Christians ought to be anti-immigration, however this line of thinking also fuels a lot of the civnat rhetoric I.E. "Muslims from Pakistan = bad, but Christians from Africa = good".

 

[Made In Wales]

Some lunchtime news from GB News:

A slap in the face for Yvette Cooper:

https://www.gbnews.com/news/palestine-action-court-yvette-cooper-terror-group

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/cjhh4

Ricky Gervais brilliant response to Kneecap and Bob Vylan:

https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/ricky-gervais-response-glastonbury-bbc

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/ePObr

'Barefaced lie!' GB News' Alex Armstrong erupts over Covid care home scandal: 'No wonder the public has lost trust!':

https://www.gbnews.com/news/alex-armstrong-covid-care-home-scandal-barefaced-lie

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/7YnYz

Benefits fraudster managed to get away with stealing from DWP for two decades before finally being caught:

https://www.gbnews.com/news/benefits-fraudster-dwp-caught-northern-ireland-omagh

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/2TyIJ

Plus, from Wales Online, Louis Rees-Zammit brilliantly takes down critics over 'wrong flag' photo:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/louis-rees-zammit-clashes-fans-31958483

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/Ukuqg

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Birnberg Peirce submitted the claim on behalf of Huda Ammori, a 31-year-old of Palestinian and Iraqi heritage, and a co-founder of Palestine Action.

If they deport him, they don't need to argue about it in court.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Benefits fraudster managed to get away with stealing from DWP for two decades before finally being caught:

https://www.gbnews.com/news/benefits-fraudster-dwp-caught-northern-ireland-omagh Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/2TyIJ

18 month sentence for a man who ran 5 different benefit scams. Even if he only ran each one on it's own he was scamming 30 grand a year off of all the stuff he was getting. 18 months for half a million stolen seems like a slap on the wrist.

 

[Mound Dweller]

It tracks then if you are the government (MP or King) then you ought to abide by God's rulings (commandments, direct statements from God in the Bible or the apostles/prophets within it), which strongly pushes for the advocacy of no-association with non-Christians (Matthew 10:14) and the murder of heretics/destruction of Heathen idols/monuments (Deuteronomy and Leviticus), which Muslims both fulfil the criteria of being both the followers of a "false prophet and dreamer" (Muhammed) I.E. Heresy, or a non-Christian faith/non-derivative that refuses to convert. At a bare minimum Christians ought to be anti-immigration, however this line of thinking also fuels a lot of the civnat rhetoric I.E. "Muslims from Pakistan = bad, but Christians from Africa = good".

Yeah there's all sorts of rules and regulations, but it's the basic premise of the matter that gets me The "cultural Christian" types who are all for total separation but who gets all miffed when excluded on the basis of being blatantly non-Christian. There's some (Gnostic) precedent for the sacrament of endura but that's not how the small C christfags justify themselves is it, it's all about doing what right aka what they want not about what the rules are.
These people are hollow simulacra, they're not bothered at all by this; what pisses them off is being called out for it, they are simply not human.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I do wonder if that's maybe because of our drinking age. I hate to be a 'The USA has redeemable and good features' guy; but the drinking age of 21 in bars and pubs; does give them a softer and more relaxed night out culture. I would do Rugby socials at university and I'd get through a £40 bottle of jameson every single night we had one. I wasn't even one of the crazy ones either. America doesn't seem to have it as bad.

America's higher drinking age causes its own problems.

The simple fact is this: The English have always been a nation of brawling drunkards. Popular and populist movements might try to sanitise that history, leaning heavily on the bowdlerised depictions of the noble, morally upstanding, stiff-upper-lipped, hard-working lower class men of yore, so popularised by the burgeoning mass media of the early 20th century, but the reality is that the peoples of the British isles have had this reputation for the better part of two thousand years. Deservedly so.

The problem, as I see it, is that the traditional outlets for all that competition and alcoholism have disappeared. There used to be any number of occupational drinking places, where men (and perhaps women) of a similar class and character could get drunk together, out of the public eye, with a sense of common identity and community mitigating most of their worst excesses. Aside from that, every village and every other street would have its own pub, where most everyone knew most everyone else. Certainly there were dive bars, because there's always going to be places that are objectively shit, but even those were small and tucked away and had their own form of community, however degraded. There was never an opportunity for the mass drunken gatherings that are found in modern cities, because people were too spread out to too many locations for it to happen. All we have now are overcrowded bars and clubs in centralised locations, without any sense of community or any natural limits on excess.

 

[Overly Serious]

A lot of that comes from there being no real value in being alive to those people other wise. They live for the weekend and get off their face when it arrives. I don't get it myself. I

Because they don't see a future. All the things you'd consider worth living for outside of hedonism are about building a better life, family, country. And many young people growing up no longer believe in career, no longer believe in family and see the country as unfixable. Hedonism Not Hope, to parody a certain unlikeable charity.