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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I haven't checked the source but fucking hell. just when you think this government can't be anymore retarded.

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I mean if this were true, then why the fuck aren't they patrolling with navy ships and blowing up the boats to make sure it stops?

Utter cunts.

I'm not someone smashing "Z!" under every UkraineVRussia video but I honestly don't believe it. Especially not when we see the French enabling the fuckers. The yanks did the same thing when Trump got in and claim Russia was behind it, same with the organic backlash to trannies and illegal immigration and so on. The government can give it out as an excuse for why a problem isn't actually a problem, the complaining is just the mirage of a foreign, hostile power.

"Military escort", like, nigga, we can fucking see Calais with the naked eye — where!?

"supplying transport"
You don't need much in the way of sophisticated tech to achieve this.

 

[Zoot]

honestly don't believe it.

i don't believe it for a second. I don't believe the government believes it.

my only point is that if the government truly believed it was the russians then they would be patrolling with the navy and blowing up not just allowing them in.

 

[>IMPLYING]

i don't believe it for a second. I don't believe the government believes it.

my only point is that if the government truly believed it was the russians then they would be patrolling with the navy and blowing up not just allowing them in.

They're absolutely refusing to blame the French or any other NGO for this. They've been completely absent from the subject, probably for optics/diplomacy. Macron is absolutely a problem. He recognises they're a problem instead of a boon (good), but rather than address it domestically he needs to maintain the kayfabe of being a "sensible centrist" and so does jack shit about it. He's essentially implemented his own version of the Rwanda plan, but instead of sending illegals to Rwanda, he's just sending them here instead.

There's also multinational charity (UK, France and Belgium) called care4calais providing aid and supplies to the Calais crossers whilst the French provide them temporary accommodation. They're being enabled by both foreigners and domestic traitors and are arguably more damaging to the UK than that Palestine group who sprayed some paint into a plane engine. I believe it's possible care4calais are even providing the boats themselves. They're not that expensive, especially for a charity which supposedly rakes in close to 2 million a year in income.


Edit: I should point out, they also use the term "asylum seeker" for the boat crossers, which is just their PC term for illegal immigrant.

 

[They were once men]

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rather it be blown up tbh

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Is there any way to go after these groups? I don't mean fire bombing them but is there legal or social action you could take against them that would have a meaningful impact? I see Antifa, hope not hate and those tossers doxxing people and making their lives a living hell. If some kind patriot started to dox these people and made their lives a living hell the way the left does the right, would it impact their reach at all? I don't think I would feel safe if I was a traitor and my full dox was out there. Would make me think twice about what I was doing.

The legal option must exist. There is no way there isn't some WW2 legislation that relates to a small boat invasion that could be used. I'm not a lawyer but common sense says some where there are laws that demand border protection and ignoring them can get the government fucked.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

I don't believe it because why would you willingly spend 00s of billions on destabilizing your own country beyond repair to the point of civil war and then 20 years be - Russians.

This is Starmer trying to grab a headline and take the heat off him, and be like "ooohhh Russians". This is a shit angle even then to the point its retarded. The MSM is starting to threaten that they are going to oust Starmer's dirty laundry, and I bet it is not pretty.

This is Nero, knowing it's up and wants to declare war on Russia to save his skin, but he knows it won't stick.

Go with what dignity you have, even your peers know you are over.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Blaming Russia has been the left's deflection for 10 years now. It doesn't even work but they try it.

Someone should ask Starmer why he's letting an active Russian invasion happen if he thinks it's the Russians. Does no one able to talk in the house of commons have the balls to put him between two options he can't worm his way out of? If we're being invaded by Russian assets we need to shut it down immediately, if we aren't then why lie about it being Russians?

Spoiler

I think the Russians do support the invasion of their European enemies but they aren't the ones funding it. China does the same thing and so does any other country that wants to keep rival nations weak.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Is there any way to go after these groups? I don't mean fire bombing them but is there legal or social action you could take against them that would have a meaningful impact? I see Antifa, hope not hate and those tossers doxxing people and making their lives a living hell. If some kind patriot started to dox these people and made their lives a living hell the way the left does the right, would it impact their reach at all? I don't think I would feel safe if I was a traitor and my full dox was out there. Would make me think twice about what I was doing.

The legal option must exist. There is no way there isn't some WW2 legislation that relates to a small boat invasion that could be used. I'm not a lawyer but common sense says some where there are laws that demand border protection and ignoring them can get the government fucked.

The big thing that enables these groups to continue acting the way they do is their independence and charity status. You can raise awareness about the fact they're aiding these people but the negative PR will only work on everyone who isn't already aware of what the charity does already. The people supporting this charity are likely the sorts of people who donate because they approve of the boat crossings already so it might not hit them hard where it's most important: revenue. They had previously been under an investigation before but it was mostly tied to a lack of organisation and some embezzling of 60k pounds. They've been operating since 2016 and have expanded in scope and size since then (and coincidentally the migrant boat crossings have been getting larger and more frequent with their year after year rise in donations - what a coincidence!)

You can complain to the Charity Commission suspecting criminal activity, but I think to make such a thing have weight to it, you would need to basically do an undercover expose of these people and then share your evidence to the commission. The people arriving over here are usually just put on a boat by the "smuggler" (probably NGO member or Frenchie) who just make their own way here on a cheap dinghy and a prayer. There's a certain degree of separation too because you have Care4Calais in the UK, but they're also registered in France so cutting them here might not deal with them. The French body can claim ignorance to the malicious acts of the British and remain alive.

Furthermore, they work with another charity called CalaisLight who are based out of France and who organise cross channel convoys to bring over volunteers from the UK...

Yes, they work with a charity that specialises in transportation.

And by a tight schedule too.

They don't even try to humour the idea that the people they're helping will be staying in France.




It feels like they're outright taunting us but I'm very likely just being schizophrenic.

CalaisLight are also why these "refugees" arrive over here wearing better fits than I can scrounge up.

These organisations, if they can't be proven to be criminal, can only really be dealt with by the French dispersing and getting rid of the encampment at Calais, which wouldn't have become a problem to begin with if they actually enforced their laws and protected their borders. Whilst the people we're letting in legally probably the biggest issue, this particular issue is on Macron. He's probably still upset over us leaving the EU.

 

[Zoot]

So you probably heard about the "Independent Commission on Community & Cohesion" that is meeting to discuss what caused the Southport riots.


Take a look at who is on the commission: Source. Archive

An "Independent Commission on Community & Cohesion" is meeting on Wednesday to produce a report on why riots erupted after the Southport murders last summer.But the members should worry us:•
Former Home Office advisor Dame Sara Khan•
Former Home Secretary, Sir Sajid Javid•
Former Fabian Society secretary, Sunder Katwala•
Former Leader and Co-Leader of the Green Party, Caroline Lucas•
Fraser Nelson, who believes integration has been a "miracle" in Britain•
Former Mayor of the West Midlands, Sir Andy Street, who is telling the Tories to return to socially liberal "moderate conservatism" after their election defeat

Reminder: Khan released a report authored with communist group HOPE Not Hate last December, declaring "two-tier policing" an "extrimist conspiracy theory", and that "contemporary Far Right narratives on asylum seekers allude to them as ‘Muslim invaders’, with small boat crossings being characterised as an ‘invasion of fighting aged men’.”

Khan's charity, Inspire, produced pro-Muslim propaganda used by RICU, run by her sister Sabrina, to be printed in newspapers after ISIS terror attacks.Under the Khan sisters, momitoring of Islamist extremism by Prevent plummeted, while the definition of "Far Right" expanded and the Home Office Islamic Network grew to over 700 members.

Sajid Javid's brother worked with the Khan sisters at the Home Office.Javid responded "So what?" to news that England's cities are now minority white-British

These people are the architects of mass immigration and multiculturalism. They caused the problem, are indifferent about the consequences for native Brits, and unwilling to entertain the necessary solutions.T

hey only care about managing and suppressing the opposition to the liberal multicultural settlement. It is organised by the Together Coalition founded by Brendan Cox, husband of murdered Labour MP Jo Cox. It is another establishment outfit, to create the impression that the liberal consensus is the only legitimate voice.

 

[BongoMongo]

The only miracle about "integration" in this country is that the native population hasn't started lynching these raping odious cunts yet.

 

[Overly Serious]

You can complain to the Charity Commission suspecting criminal activity, but I think to make such a thing have weight to it, you would need to basically do an undercover expose of these people and then share your evidence to the commission.

So what Lauren Southern did with migrants coming into Italy. She had footage of herself talking to a woman from one of these types of charities who was explaining how to coach the migrants in what to say to claim they were Christian and subject to religious persecution.

So far as I know, Lauren Southern is still banned from the UK for Terrorism.

 

[Eddie Riggs]

So if i recall the 2021 census correctly, Irreligion is actually the thing that's having a bigger growth rate than Pisslam (which is only on an upward trajectory 'cause they breed like rabbits). The question now is to see whether Irreligion has a knock-on effect on the new generation of mudslimes.

But then again these are not the types living in the middle east who see the shit they're in and actively want the cancer gone, these are rapefugees or the spawn of them who have a tendency to enjoy said shit so

 

[Clem Fandango]

New racist theory: Black (African) women, as a group, disproportionately use the lifts at tube stations when they clearly don't need to (i.e. not disabled, no heavy case, bike or pram) and are just being lazy.

Otterly, can you come and shame this lot too please?

 

[>IMPLYING]

Independent Commission on Community & Cohesion

Commission's website.

Lads, sorry, civic nationalism died around 2012. There was attempt to resuscitate in 2016 but by 2020 it was buried. Now you're playing with a desiccated corpse and insisting it's alive — and that's the good-faith read of this commission, which it hasn't even earned considering the composition of the commission. Otherwise it's just Indians, Pakistanis and hardcore Lefty-types trying to distribute the blame onto the internet and the whole society (if they're generous), the government for not spending more on trying to integrate/educate minorities into the country, or white people and the as a whole for not doing enough to create bridges. But who knows, maybe they'll utterly blindside us and blame the minority groups for self-sequestering. Javid's mother didn't learn English until after she had spent 10 years in the country (it's on his Wikipedia page) so maybe he'll acknowledge how immigrants aren't practicing proper etiquette and don't integrate like they should (unlikely).

They're trying to produce counter data to the other data we've already received regarding Paki rapists I think, since they've been around since January but have chosen this month to convene specifically and compile data (when it's released I'll give it a skim). It's meant to be a "across the isle"-type inquiry, since Javid is "conservative" and his peer — Jon Cruddas - Retired Labour Corbynite — is meant to be the liberal here.

The only "based" individuals there is Tim Montgomerie and Fraser Nelson - though they both have associated asterisks attached to them. Others of note are Mendelsohn, who is hilariously corrupt and I can only imagine he got his peership through blackmail or something; there's and Caroline Lucas, who is similarly shady and has politics on par with the German Green party I.E. nuclear power hurts my feelings ;(
Also here's the blurb on the back of her book, "Another England: How to Reclaim Our National Story".

The Right have hijacked Englishness. Can it be reclaimed?

Today, the only people who dare speak of Englishness are cheerleaders for Brexit, exceptionalism and imperial nostalgia. But there is another England, hiding in plain sight, which is dramatically more inclusive and forward looking. Here, Caroline Lucas delves deep into England's literary history to sketch out alternative stories of who we are - ones that we can all embrace to build a greener, fairer future.

Fraser:

In several articles in the mid 2010s, Nelson outlined his view of the relative success of immigration to the UK due to the country's liberalism.[23][24][25][26][27] By 2023, however, Nelson was a critic of mass migration describing migration placing pressure on housing, services, and wages.[28]

Married with two sons and a daughter,[1] Nelson and his family live in southwest London.[30] He is married to Linda, a Swede, and said in 2014, "I am a soppy Europhile who speaks a second language at home. The idea of a united Europe was one that really excited me when I was younger, and which I love now."[31]

Tim:


(People can change so I'm willing to give him some leeway, but eh... he might be too soft on immigration ultimately. The best endorsement he's got going for him is what Labour said about him. I think he might gun for a Reform candidacy in the future.)

But yeah, the fact these two are the closest to a right-wing perspective on the panel alongside Javid lets you know right away what trollop it's going to be, though you didn't need me to tell you that. Fingers crossed either of them give a tell-all about it all afterwards, but I can't imagine either being loud about the commission's progressive/pro-diversity narrative it pushes with the data. I hope the government doesn't take on any of it suggestions. You just know they're going to bring up the manosphere again, somehow, and blame this totally inorganic rise in tensions on racist internet people.

Also I think it's too late for kumbaya if they're going to insist that all the divisions are imaginary. It's hard to reconcile "implicitly wants you dead at all times if you don't convert" with "doesn't want you dead, yet, but would much rather you fuck off forever", which is how I'd describe the relationship between at least 30% of British public and Muslims.

If we're lucky the end result will be hilarious to go through. I mean, look at this:

"We must find out what unites us to avoid divisions such as those that led to the racist attacks after the Southport knife attack from deepening further"

So yeah, not you needed me to tell you, this is going to be the most leftie as shit drivel to assault our eyes when it's released. It's going to be spoken about more than Casey's report I reckon, if only so they can do the exact same thing they did with the data released in 2021 where they lied based on incomplete data to insist upon a narrative most people knew wasn't true, but I don't think think people are falling for it anymore (assuming they hear about this at all).

The easiest way to fix division is by having less ethnic division, so I'm sorry, but you all have to go back...

Fedposter can stay. He can speak English and read it (though not too much) and likes Greggs.

 

[Zoot]

The easiest way to fix division is by having less ethnic division, so I'm sorry, but you all have to go back...

this is what it comes down to,

Lads, sorry, civic nationalism died around 2012

the final battle is really now between those who want the mutt monoculture I.e. integration an those who want the white monoculture. the only middle ground is endless and worsening social unrest.

those are the options.

And the most verboten people of our recent past were the ones who all said this was coming

 

[Special spoonie]

The Right have hijacked Englishness. Can it be reclaimed?

Today, the only people who dare speak of Englishness are cheerleaders for Brexit, exceptionalism and imperial nostalgia. But there is another England, hiding in plain sight, which is dramatically more inclusive and forward looking. Here, Caroline Lucas delves deep into England's literary history to sketch out alternative stories of who we are - ones that we can all embrace to build a greener, fairer future.

God this lady pisses me off to no end. Excuse my incoming rants I haven’t read this pile of drivel. But at least the right are telling us the real history. Not like the left trying to blackify ours to justify the boat people. Cheddarman was SubSaharan!! Black people built Stonehenge!! Black people were on Hadrians wall. Septimius Severus woz black!! A lot of this is thanks to the Tom Booth(white idiot leftist) from the National History museum who is responsible for the Cheddarman was black claims. He’s literally admitted he did it to “stop the white far right” & because of Brexit.

He had the cheek to post this after blacks started believing this crap & he was getting called out.

Hes now carrying on this trend by blackifying Neolithics btw.

Now we’ve got blacks everywhere tying to tell us everything was really black like Romans and Moors. (never mind that Romans never got anywhere near Subsaharan Africa) I’m suprised the Muslims haven’t got annoyed about the Moor thing actually, since they were actually Arabs and Berbers. And these people wonder why the right is rising?

 

[>IMPLYING]

The question now is to see whether Irreligion has a knock-on effect on the new generation of mudslimes.

With some non-practicing Muslims, they become quasi-Jews wherein they may not practice the religion but they still have a cultural affinity with it. Hasan Piker, Frogan, Javid, etcetera. The religion has a built-in name for all its adherents - ummah - that enshrouds all of them, regardless of sect and shit because they all constitute a single nation that transcends national borders (this partly inspired Ba'athism and why Islamic socialism is a thing - popular in Pakistan). So they can espouse the most Marxist, "class above ethnicity and fuck religion" sentiments possible, but they'll still defend their "fellow" Muslims from non-Muslims, even if the former is more likely to kill them than the latter. They'll also practice their religion in the same way a non-religious Jew might I.E. Hanukah in lieu of Christmas. Cultural/religious practices that go against the grain of the majority that stops them from even seeing themselves as being completely "British", diluting it themselves as "British Muslim" or "Pakistani British" and so on.

I don't actually think full integration is possible anymore, at least not in the way that "outsider" truly becomes "insider". They can get close, certainly. They could be British in every single metric that matters except one barrier: ethnicity. That keeps them perpetually on the edge of being an "insider" because, as morose as it might be, both they and the "insiders" themselves know they're not the same. In an optimal world (Like in Lethal Weapon), you would be able to acknowledge the differences but let them have no bearing for the most part. If the Muslims came over in the late 80s were irreligious, maybe (hard maybe) we'd of avoided the rapes and they wouldn't have this shared religious community that, whilst not actively carrying out the killing the non-Muslim majority on mass, still desire it somewhat. Preferring you convert implicitly is actually the most quaint position they can adopt in my experience, if you're not just outright ignoring the differences, as is optimal.

I think the fact I was actually friends with a few Muslims when I was younger is why I've personally capped out at "they need to leave" and not anything that'd warrant getting signposted as a copper. I think I was given a total of 3 Qu'rans over the time I knew them and I still can't bring myself to chuck 'em. In a scenario where time and distance hadn't eroded our friendship, and Supreme Leader Lowe passes the Edict of Expulsion II in 2032, I imagine the below would've been me come the time they got ferried to France.

I think for Muslims the best thing you could probably do to inoculate yourself from the worst of their behaviours is just transplant some Ahmadiyya and hope it spreads. They're Muslim Mormons basically. Some kooky beliefs (they think Jesus travelled East after pretending to be dead and died of old age in Kashmir looking for the lost tribes) but they seem relatively well-turned out. Fro what I've read they're basically less shifty Mormons, if you can believe that.

Also I can't not share this: "Prayer Duel":

 

[Zoot]

With some non-practicing Muslims, they become quasi-Jews wherein they may not practice the religion but they still have a cultural affinity with i

This is precisely the issue. We already had one in-group tribe operating for their own interests by which they can rule over the host nation. now we have another one.

I don't actually think full integration is possible anymore, at least not in the way that "outsider" truly becomes "insider".

Not only isn't integration possible, it is wholly unnecessary for them demographically. their group will be the group that demands white people have to integrte into. they will be the dominant national group

 

[Kofi Drinka]

The big thing that enables these groups to continue acting the way they do is their independence and charity status. You can raise awareness about the fact they're aiding these people but the negative PR will only work on everyone who isn't already aware of what the charity does already.

I don't mean just going after them through the courts. The general public don't like the small boats. If they could see the names and faces of the people helping those they would be spit on on the street. They wouldn't be able to live a normal life the same way people like Morgoth's review can't now. Use social shaming to make people scared to be part of the groups and those groups will lose steam very quickly. They think the right wing is a terrorist group just waiting to go postal, building on that paranoia by having them named and shamed would work on the type of women who do this.

There could be chuds here she thought, neo nazis just ready to kidnap and put her in a breeding farm.

Spoiler

As she got wet at the thought.

So far as I know, Lauren Southern is still banned from the UK for Terrorism.

Southern should be banned on the grounds of being a walking bioweapon. She slept around constantly to get youtube access. She was just another whore who picked a side with less competition.

This is precisely the issue. We already had one in-group tribe operating for their own interests by which they can rule over the host nation. now we have another one.

You can't have rival ethnic groups or life styles competing with your home culture. It always turns into a competition for space and resources. The nice Chinese family can run a take away but they have kids, who have kids and then you have a China town with 100 extra people competing for local jobs and houses.

 

[BongoMongo]

@>IMPLYING I mean who doesn't like Mormons. They're wholesome as fuck. Probably something I have said before so apologies if I have. I left my ex husband in 2015. He gave me an absolute pasting before I left- black eyes,broken ribs and nose,the works.

I very literally ran into two Mormon sister missionaries and I will never forget what they said on seeing me. "Shall we call the Bishop? No,call his *wife*". And they did. And they got me back to my mum,nigh on 500 miles away, they put me up in a hotel for a few nights before they could get me on a flight. I was invited to the bishops home for food. And to this day, a decade later I still send those two young ladies,and their former Bishop, a a Christmas card.

The LDS church has its faults (under the banner of heaven is a god read if you're interested) but the individual men and women,both lay people and missionaries are wonderful human beings in my experience.

His nibs and I are wedding next month with a view to being temple sealed as Mormons and hoping for him to get a job in Utah with part of company he works for. Sure no caffeine and booze sucks but the trade off is a racially homogeneous community and the benefits of that cannot be understated.