UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Whoopsie Daisy · Jun 25, 2025

There won't be a GE, Labour have no need to push to have a new one, or change leader. There's a long time between now and August 2029, including the US election; the removal of Trump, and the ramp-up to Agenda 2030.

Chunky Salsa · Jun 25, 2025

The idea we're going to get a GE is retarded. I think it's because people have not internalised reality. The government hates you, it doesn't like you, it thinks it's funny when you suffer, and it has no need to follow your wishes. You have no recourse in this that can compel anything. There is nothing you or I can LEGALLY do which will make the government do anything. The government does things because it wants to, and labour does not want to give up power.

If Starmer left tomorrow, we would have someone new from labour. We could cycle a prime minister a week, and the date of the next GE will not shift a single minute. The only thing that makes government bodies do anything that they don't want to do, is force. The government has a monopoly on that; so we're up shit creek until 2029.

What are you - as in you the person reading this - going to do if we don't get a GE before 2029? Is it worth going to prison over? No, you have an internet connection, so you presumably chose life, and will continue to choose life. Be realistic about things.

Zoot · Jun 25, 2025

overall, jeets are the biggest sex pests. Who would have thought it?

Nige didn't want to talk about it though. SHUT IT DOWN.!

Kofi Drinka · Jun 25, 2025

Chunky Salsa said:
If Starmer left tomorrow, we would have someone new from labour. We could cycle a prime minister a week, and the date of the next GE will not shift a single minute. The only thing that makes government bodies do anything that they don't want to do, is force. The government has a monopoly on that; so we're up shit creek until 2029.

The tories tried the same thing and it collapsed their party. If your party looks weak and can't cement it's own authority it can hold onto government control but loses it's ability to function. Look at how many PMs the conservatives jumped through before ending up with a cabbage, a limp wristed paki and now a gorilla. And what good did it do? They held onto big P power but lost all the meaningful power and once voted out they collapsed into nothing.

Calling an election and proving you still hold legitimate power can be a way to round up your sheep and put confidence back into the flock. If they try to hold onto power when they have very low polling numbers it encourages MPs to defect to parties like Reform. They will jump parties to keep their jobs and if you know 2029 means no hope of election there's no reason not to jump to Reform who will win 2029 by a land side. Labour and Starmer especially needs the air of authority to feed their ego. He is the type of petty manager type who will demand respect and put his foot down with an election. He won't be able to stand people questioning his legitimacy so he will "show them" by holding an election.

We like to think the politicians are stupid and we can run circles round them but they aren't. You don't get into a den of vipers and make it to the top by being an idiot. It only takes one "she looks tired" to deflate an upcoming politician and there's a room full of people wanting to take their place. We shouldn't act like they're idiots who can't see the problems they're causing or that they don't know what the people think of them. They know and they will try to manage it. The biggest danger from people like Starmer and labour knowing no one likes them is they can go scorched earth on the way out. The benefits bill, baby murder and granny murder on the NHS look like scorched earth policies. They're the type of thing they want, the public doesn't want but if they're planning to leave power in 2025-6 then they can force those things through, set up their big tech jobs with government contract bribery and be out the door. Knowing the Tories are still very weak and Reform is vulnerable to media smear campaigns and lack their own media to counter them. Force through unpopular legislation, retreat for an election cycle then come back next having cleaned out the potential traitors and presenting a "we got rid of Starmer, we're better now" face. The uniparty has done it many times between them and it's not like they haven't had to content with parties like Reform before and crushed them through liberal media's tried and true tactics.

@Zoot Bit unfair to Nige there lad. He did say there are more than racial issues to that and religioin is an issue too. And ends with "This is going to become a bigger issue, an explosive issue". He addressed the topic in a way the public will like and gave a soundbyte for people to use. He did avoid going into it in depth but he got the right message across and the public doesn't care if it's Indians or Muslims, they're the same group to the general public. Brown = Muslim = GET OFF MY ISLAND.

Otterly · Jun 25, 2025

Made In Wales said:
depending on how far in advance he calls the GE

You really think we are getting one? I don’t see why they would, they’d be massacred (metaphorically.) * what do they gain from a GE?
*sadly

Zoot · Jun 25, 2025

Kofi Drinka said:
Bit unfair to Nige there lad

Perhaps I am. Came across as evasive to me. But I haven't seen the longer clips so there might be a reason why in the fuller context, if i'm being fair.

Eddie Riggs · Jun 25, 2025

What Britain needs is King Kong to destroy everything and have it be rebuilt anew.

They were once men · Jun 25, 2025

I'm starting to think aliens are real and they work for the BBC.

Oxyjen · Jun 25, 2025

They were once men said:
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I'm starting to think aliens are real and they work for the BBC.

Can’t really see the problem, he looks just like a member of the British Royalty?

Zoot · Jun 25, 2025

They were once men said:
I'm starting to think aliens are real and they work for the BBC.

Oxyjen said:
Can’t really see the problem, he looks just like a member of the British Royalty?

He looks like a rothschild

Made In Wales · Jun 25, 2025

Otterly said:
You really think we are getting one? I don’t see why they would, they’d be massacred (metaphorically.) * what do they gain from a GE?
*sadly

They would gain nothing but possibly everything as well:

It's a checkmate situation for Starmer with the Disability Bill and now today's talk of 'we have to prepare for war and for the UK to potentially be invaded' (the fact that we're invaded daily means nothing to him...)

Should this rebellion happen, and over 150 MP's tell Starmer to BTFO, we're then left with a minority Government and none of the other parties would vote to keep Starmer or Labour in power.

They'd be the largest party at 253 MP's but not enough for a majority and even with the Lib Dems in coalition they'd fall short.

My take (FWIW) is that Labour have had enough - of Starmer, of the abuse and the fact that they are seen as worse than the Tories ever were. The reputational damage is going to end them and they will die a quicker death than the Tories who will try to amble on in some form:

* The Unions hate Starmer

* The Woke Left hate Starmer (they're also furious at him proscribing Palestine Action and banning them from all UK Airports - arguably, this is one of very few sensible things Starmer's done whilst in office).

* Labour are constantly lagging behind Reform UK in the polls and Farage is favoured more than Starmer, Davey and Badenoch.

The gains would be that Starmer's international profile has been boosted and he can still make money from the lecture circuits giving speeches like Blair did. Also, as previously stated, it's then up to Reform UK to sort the problems out and to prove that they are the answer to our prayers - a sensible budget in October with the axing of the Green Deals, BBC, Covid debts etc. and commitment to low tax and a low cost of living would go down well even with the opposition.

Apparently, Labour MP's want to vote on removing Reeves before October as well. The disconnect between frontbench and the backbenchers is sizeable, when they should all be united behind the leader they couldn't be more hacked off and disappointed in the whole sad affair.

I don't believe that Labour believe in themselves and the greatest gain of all is stopping the freak show now before it does any more damage (or there is a national mass rebellion).

Tony Martin's Force Ghost · Jun 25, 2025

The only thing I will say is we are in very strange times and a clown world timeline. I will say if a GE were to be called, I would not be surprised. This government is the most inexperienced government in decades, if not a century. They are all out of their depth and ideologues with not a single finger on the pulse. I have seen numerous comments from the newer backbenchers, and they seem astounded by how incompetent the cabinet is.

As for Keir, he is done. He should see this as a clear message to go because his party has no faith in him whatsoever. If you apply the 128 signatures, he does not even have a majority anymore. The stuff about Number 10 being a clusterfuck sounds about right; stories of constant fighting and comers and goers. Hermer is said to be everywhere in Number 10. None of the departments communicates with each other, and it seems like a messy house (figuratively speaking).

Also, Ange said the vote is happening on Tuesday; he has 2 days to negotiate with rebels who "don't care if they lose the whip." My dude, if these rebels are willing to kill your majority in one fell swoop, then this is a VONC.

>IMPLYING · Jun 25, 2025

Otterly said:
You really think we are getting one? I don’t see why they would, they’d be massacred (metaphorically.) * what do they gain from a GE?
*sadly

I already stated in a prior post that it's very unlikely we'd get one before 2029, but the only argument I could see for the contrary is the prospect of enough Labour MPs being naïve idealists (and retarded) that pushing a "new message" will be enough to keep them in power based on the supposed righteousness of said message alone.

To them it'd solidify the legitimacy of the further Left-wing rhetoric, that they're morally correct, and point to said victory as proof that it's what the people wanted all along. The rebels are either:
1. Actively trying to subvert/change the direction of the party to be more "Corbyn" and less "Blair" (Leftism as opposed to Neoliberalism)
2. Genuinely believe they're in the moral right and so need to do something ("Principled", performative or no)
3. Think Starmer is bringing them all down with him (Self-preservation)
4. Possibly all of the above.

I think these rebels might be of the belief that, were there to be a GE tomorrow with Starmer gone and replaced with some generic Progressive/Lefty saying the usual talking points, they'd remain in charge, or they themselves might preserve their seats exclusively because they stuck to their ideals and the rest will go down to a metaphorical hell for believing in false idols (benefit cuts).

Like I said I don't think it's likely but I could see the avenue for some of Labour being all for it. Not on the premise they'd gain as a whole but on the premise they wouldn't lose quite so much. Based on recent precedent, they'd likely expect a result similar to May's unnecessary election regarding Brexit after the resignation of Cameron. They'd lose some seats, but ultimately remain a majority, possibly forced into some kind of coalition at worse, possibly with someone like the Greens or the new-ish Independent Alliance.

Edit:

I think these guys are gearing to make that Muslim party. Corbyn is apparently reluctant but maybe he has some actual measure of self-awareness and realises that he might end up the only white guy in a Muslim party they keep around for kayfabe-reasons to argue the contrary.

Made In Wales · Jun 25, 2025

Kofi Drinka said:
I saw the peak of western society and I reflect back on it now as being quite shit. Kids TV was full of nogs and groomers. The fashion was shit and the mass produced culture looks like the first part of the slippery slope. I am a miserable bastard (and my name is Edward "Eddie" Hitler BTW MI6) but I'm also a realist. When pro-white posters get excited for Reform and Reform start offering parts of the country up to brown oil barons I don't get the hype. It reminds me of the Trump first term where hype was making Trump out to be a saviour instead of a Jewish goon. It wasn't until someone tried to give him an extra air hole that he started to practice what he preached.

Reform has the potential to be a step in the right direction. It also has the potential to release the pressure because they talk big but act like the Tory party did when they get in power. The public think they elected anti-immigration and they just keep coming and coming and coming and coming.

Time is very tight. There will be false saviours and grifters trying to waste it. I think reform could be useful but I also know this is British politics and the Uniparty doesn't mean red or blue. It means every party and any alternatives that threaten it have to survive being taken over by ship jumpers wanting to steer it into the rocks.

I doxed you Wales. You're Womble McWomble from Wimbledom common. Time to get the thread highlighted for halal lolcows.

Oh dear...

I did wonder why the Riot Squad was around earlier

Clem Fandango · Jun 25, 2025

Chunky salsa put it best. Look, ya ain't getting one. It's going to be a loooong 4 years if you keep getting your hopes up for a GE every time the govt looks weak or does something stupid/unpopular/retarded. They'll be doing that a lot.

Made In Wales · Jun 25, 2025

Kier Starmer said:
The only thing I will say is we are in very strange times and a clown world timeline. I will say if a GE were to be called, I would not be surprised. This government is the most inexperienced government in decades, if not a century. They are all out of their depth and ideologues with not a single finger on the pulse. I have seen numerous comments from the newer backbenchers, and they seem astounded by how incompetent the cabinet is.

As for Keir, he is done. He should see this as a clear message to go because his party has no faith in him whatsoever. If you apply the 128 signatures, he does not even have a majority anymore. The stuff about Number 10 being a clusterfuck sounds about right; stories of constant fighting and comers and goers. Hermer is said to be everywhere in Number 10. None of the departments communicates with each other, and it seems like a messy house (figuratively speaking).

Also, Ange said the vote is happening on Tuesday; he has 2 days to negotiate with rebels who "don't care if they lose the whip." My dude, if these rebels are willing to kill your majority in one fell swoop, then this is a VONC.

Very well said, and the Labour MP's only know that things can only get worse (instead of better).

Losing 150+ MP's would be political suicide, but it is possible.

What some people IMO aren't taking into account is that previous Governments didn't falter anywhere as quickly as this one has because they at least had some form of unity and didn't directly fuck the electorate off as openly and blatantly.

This sorry lot have been quite open and condescending about the poor, the elderly, the vulnerable and would rather defend Cardiff Choir Boys and Pajeet Paedos than the good people who make the UK a great place to be - even Blair didn't openly shit on those who voted him in to power on three occasions (the first two by landslides, the third being more testing due to the Iraq war) and Thatcher believed in free markets and free trade in order to keep tax at a sensible level.

There's also a bombshell coming for Labour in October - an alleged £66 BILLION black hole in the economy, which is a result of Rachel from Accounts being Nick Leeson with tits.

These are far from normal times and the war distract isn't working - I asked a few people today if they're worried and none of them are.

Some of these rebels fear losing face with people (the woke ones) more so than they do losing their jobs, therefore next Tuesday IMO is hopefully the beginning of the end.

Chunky Salsa · Jun 25, 2025

Kofi Drinka said:
The tories tried the same thing and it collapsed their party. If your party looks weak and can't cement it's own authority it can hold onto government control but loses it's ability to function. Look at how many PMs the conservatives jumped through before ending up with a cabbage, a limp wristed paki and now a gorilla. And what good did it do? They held onto big P power but lost all the meaningful power and once voted out they collapsed into nothing.

Sure, but the Tories had a thing that Labour doesn't: Old people. The Tories timed their election when they did, because if they left it later a large portion of the people that they rely on to vote for them may actually have literally died. They also had the internal structures to more easily compel an election; along with a complete lack of ideology beyond being Victorian era workhouse owners trying to squeeze a poor person of all their cash. Labour are ideologically motivated, and the ones that aren't are purestrain sociopaths.

They are going to cling to government like a barnacle to a rock until the very last second that they legally are allowed to; and there isn't a fucking thing you, or I, or anyone else in this country can do about it that doesn't start with you opening the US Army guide to improvised munitions. You have no recourse, there is no way of forcing it. This is no political ombudsman, or a court where you can make them do anything. Democracy is power devolved, and we have devolved our power to the point where it may as well be worthless.

EDIT: This is an issue of people being disconnected from what they are even talking about; an election is the government deciding to end itself. Does anyone genuinely think that our government is A) The sort of government that gives a single solitary fuck about what the people it governs thinks and B) Is wiling to shrug and admit they were wrong?

We had an RAF base break in and the government is literally going "LALALALALA FUCK YOU I CAN'T HEAR YOU YOU'RE JUST BEING SEXIST!" despite the fact that someone could have walked off with handfuls of rifles if they so pleased. A German man once said that hope is cowardly as it ignores reality, and despite not particularly liking Germans; I am compelled to agree. We have a police state, it's not going away until at least 2029. Get used to it, and learn to live under it, or go do something criminal if you think it'd make a difference.

Made In Wales · Jun 25, 2025

Zoot said:
Perhaps I am. Came across as evasive to me. But I haven't seen the longer clips so there might be a reason why in the fuller context, if i'm being fair.

Nigel knows that the MSM will spin the story, on command of the Government, therefore not answering the question means that they have little to spin.

He's being very coy, not a bad move.

Otterly · Jun 25, 2025

A GE would amount to them willingly giving up power. I would like to have one, but these people do not give up power

Eddie Riggs · Jun 25, 2025

So guys - when will that Enoch Powell resurrection machine be finally made?

Or the Oswald Mosley one, for that matter?

UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

Whoopsie Daisy

Ask me about how teen boys deserve to be molested

Chunky Salsa

Zoot

Kofi Drinka

Otterly

Immerse your soul in love

Zoot

Eddie Riggs

Compromised Account and/or Mental Breakdown

They were once men

Aragorn Heir of Isildur

Oxyjen

Some of a bitch

Zoot

Made In Wales

Tony Martin's Force Ghost

I killed a gypo!

>IMPLYING

Made In Wales

Clem Fandango

Can you hear me?

Made In Wales

Chunky Salsa

Made In Wales

Otterly

Immerse your soul in love

Eddie Riggs

Compromised Account and/or Mental Breakdown