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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Pakis can rape, rob, murder with impunity and nothing happens. Not only does this happen against whites, but against Hindus, Sikhs and eastern europeans as well.

They can only do this as long as the native authorities shields them.
 
It’s everyone’s problem because
1. You’re paying for it
2. multi drug resistant bacteria exchange plasmids and genetic material, so that different species of bacteria can pick up a plasmid with multiple resistance genes in it, which you then catch through a non sexual means and
3. They spread their plagues into wider society.

Yeah, you're right about all of that. That's why it was criminal/taboo until recently, I suppose.
What's that saying? "Tradition is a set of solutions to which we have forgotten the problem"? Something like that.

I just did some calculations on the back of a fag (lol) packet.
—The '21 census reckons there are ~460k gay men over 16yrs old in the UK.
—In 2023 there were 85k cases of gonhorrea.
—Some of those cases will be straight men and women. But the vax is only for gay/bi men because they're the ones catching it.

85k cases divided by 460k gays is about 18% IN A SINGLE YEAR.
I didn't take maths beyond A level, but even if you knock a bit off, that's one-in-six gay men catch gonhorrea every single year. God only knows about the other stack of VDs you can catch off bumming strangers.

And yeah, it is our problem. A waste of antibiotics, storing up a resistance problem for the future. I'm no virologist either, but the mass prescribing of PreP could create nasty viruses similar to abx-resistant bugs. Couldn't it?

When they all start dying of SuperAIDS, you know that they'll blame it all on us somehow. Again.
"Because of Section 28 I didn't realise that infinity cocks up my arse might also be a source of germs!"
Like a latex puppy mask is the best defence against monkey pox up your hole or whatever.
 
but the mass prescribing of PreP could create nasty viruses similar to abx-resistant bugs. Couldn't it?
HIV is already evolving around PreP, yeah. Amd they want to prophylactically give them doxy for the clap as well, which will render it useless after a few years.

Tradition is a set of solutions to which we have forgotten the problem"? Something like that.
I like that. Will use it. Yeah, all those ‘backward’ taboos are based on real issues, and a small number of people can create a huge problem for everyone else.
 
Amd they want to prophylactically give them doxy for the clap as well, which will render it useless after a few years.

Oh ffs. Death by minor chest infection.

And yet the rest of us (not me anymore, I'm married) had no problem with the traditional rubber johnny.
Meet a stranger you like? Bag it up!

If the rest of us acted like the gaylords, there'd be a gazillion cases of green discharge per month. Worst ending ever.
Some people just need to have ten flavours of shit on their dick. It really should be their problem, not civilisation's. Live by the pork sword, die by the pork sword.
 
Christ these people are so retarded. Wealth taxes never work. If you look at the countries that introduced them, they go into recession fast and can never recover. As for targeting savings during a recession, I don't even need to entertain a response for that. They tried to do it at 5% too which is fucking insanity. You WILL create bank runs, and on top of that, releasing 1000s of serious criminals will make burglaries skyrocket because they will know people are hiding money.

You are facing the police and military collapsing, too, because so many people are leaving. Due to budgetary cuts, they cannot net new applicants, and if the NHS is as it is currently, it will collapse by the end of the year. I know so many experienced nurses and HCAs leaving, whilst a ton of doctors are emigrating too.

These people are insane, they have no awareness of consequences, and our Chancellor does not know what the Laffer Curve is.
 
I thought for sure we'd get a good old whitewash, but the bum-boy-burners are getting actual covefe;
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/charged-fires-arson-attack-keir-starmer-vkbr66t9j/https://archive.ph/o84FO
A Romanian national has been charged over fires that damaged properties and a car linked to Sir Keir Starmer.
The Metropolitan Police said they had charged Stanislav Carpiuc, 26, of Romford, with conspiracy to commit arson with intent to endanger life after the series of fires in north London. Counter Terrorism Command led the investigation, given Starmer’s role as prime minister.

Carpiuc is charged with conspiring with another man, Roman Lavrynovych, and others unknown, to commit arson. Lavrynovych has already been charged over the incidents and is being held in police custody. Carpiuc is due to appear at Westminster magistrates’ court on Tuesday morning.

Roman Lavrynovych, a Ukrainian national, was the first man charged
A third man has also been arrested by police over the incidents and is being held by officers.
Starmer described the cases of alleged arson as an “attack on democracy” during prime minister’s questions last Wednesday. He told MPs: “This is an attack on all of us, on democracy and the values that we stand for.”

In a statement, police said that the charge, which was authorised by the Crown Prosecution Service, “relates to a period from Thursday, 17 April, to Tuesday, 13 May this year, in which three incidents took place — a vehicle fire in NW5 on Thursday, 8 May, a fire at the entrance of a property in N7 on Sunday, 11 May and a fire at a residential address in NW5 in the early hours of Monday, 12 May.”


“Carpiuc was arrested on Saturday, 17 May at London Luton Airport by counterterrorism officers from the Eastern Region Special Operations Unit. He was held in police custody after a warrant of further detention was obtained.
“As part of the same investigation, Roman Lavrynovych, 21, of Sydenham, a Ukrainian national, was charged with three counts of arson with intent to endanger life.”
Lavrynovych appeared at Westminster magistrates’ court on 16 May and was remanded in custody to appear at the Old Bailey on 6 June.
Police added that a 34-year-old was arrested on Monday, 19 May, in the Chelsea area on suspicion of conspiracy to commit arson with intent to endanger life. He remains in police custody.
They made an appeal for anyone with information that could assist the investigation to contact police on 101.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/a...ged-over-keir-starmer-arson-attacks-clm6tntmh/https://archive.ph/beez5
A third man has been charged over arson attacks on properties belonging to the prime minister.
Petro Pochynok, 34, a Ukrainian national, has been charged with conspiracy to commit arson with intent to endanger life. He appeared at Westminster magistrates’ court on Wednesday.
He was arrested on Monday morning in Chelsea, southwest London, by Metropolitan Police counterterrorism officers.
Another two men have been charged in connection with the attacks.


Roman Lavrynovych 21, another Ukrainian national, has been charged with three counts of arson with intent to endanger life.
Stanislav Carpiuc, 26, a Russian-speaking Romanian national born in Ukraine, was charged with conspiracy to commit arson with intent to endanger life.


Appearing at Westminster magistrates’ court in central London on Tuesday, Carpiuc, a model, spoke only to confirm his name, address, date of birth and that he studied at Canterbury Christ Church University in Kent. The defendant, flanked by two police officers, was dressed in a hoodie and spoke via a Russian interpreter.

Sarah Przybylska, for the prosecution, told the court he was alleged to have conspired with Lavrynovych, 21, who is accused of setting fire to the prime minister’s former family home in north London on May 12 and setting a vehicle on fire in the same street on May 8.

Lavrynovych, who is also an aspiring model and worked in construction as a roofer, is also alleged to have set fire to another property linked to Starmer in Islington, north London, on May 11. Last week he was charged with “three aggravated arson” incidents.
Judge Paul Goldspring denied Carpiuc’s request for bail and remanded him in custody. He will appear at the Old Bailey in London on June 6, the same day as Lavrynovych.
Carpiuc, a former business student, has also been working in construction and registered as the director of a painting company since completing his course in January. He wrote in an online modelling profile that he started his “modelling career quite recently” and aims to be the “top” male model “in the world”.

The May 12 fire targeted the home where Starmer lived before he became prime minister and moved into Downing Street.
The May 11 fire took place at the front door of a house converted into flats.
Russian speaking Romanian Ukrainians? This getting a bit silly, pretty byond all doubt what kinda "models" we're looking at now though;
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Profumo on the horizon perhaps? 🌈

Much less interesting is the classic predictive programming/consent manufacturing, knoifes BAD:
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/southport-yoga-teacher-interview-leanne-lucas-zr5v0b53k/https://archive.ph/dRJ8n
Leanne Lucas was weeks away from completing her studies as a counsellor to further her thriving wellness business when an act of misogynistic violence shattered her world.
The 36-year-old primary school teacher was leading a group of young girls at a Taylor Swift-themed yoga and dance class in Southport on July 29 last year when horror descended. A hooded teenager, Axel Rudakubana, now 18, burst in and fatally stabbed Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, Bebe King, six, and Alice da Silva Aguiar, nine, and tried to kill ten others — including Lucas.
It later emerged that Rudakubana had circumvented age verification checks to buy a kitchen knife on Amazon. Lucas suffered serious injuries as she tried to protect the girls. In January, the killer admitted his crimes and was jailed for a minimum of 52 years.


“The hardest part for me was obviously the grief and everything that happened. I didn’t know anything about knife crime — it wasn’t part of my world,” Lucas said. “I never thought it would end up on our doorstep.”
Lucas’s physical wounds have healed but the psychological scars remain. Slowly, in a clear voice, she detailed how it affects aspects of her life.
“Every time I go somewhere, I think: how I can help people if something bad happens? Where’s the fire escape? Have I got my phone in my hands so I can call the police? I’m constantly thinking, ‘At any moment your life can change’,” she said in her first newspaper interview.
“I didn’t realise how afraid I felt in my own kitchen. I haven’t cooked since the summer. I think part of that reason is subconsciously I’ve got a fear.
“I live with my parents at the age of 36 because that’s where I feel safe. I’m hypervigilant and always looking for danger. It crosses my mind every minute of the day. It hadn’t happened here in Southport before, so that’s why I’m trying to get this message out: you don’t know the next place it’s going to happen.”

“I feel afraid in my own kitchen”
Lucas invited us to her Merseyside home to explain more about her message. We sat in her lilac-walled kitchen as the sun streamed in through a skylight and surrounding windows. Beside an olive tree and lavender garlands was a bed and toys belonging to Maggie, her beloved three-year-old cavapoo.
Lucas, who is smart, warm and perceptive, explained she had decided to launch a campaign calling for the adoption of rounded-tip knives.
After the court proceedings, she had felt overwhelmed and spent time reflecting on the events, reading up on knife crime and sentencing guidelines.


“Every time I learnt something new, I’d think, ‘That doesn’t sound right. Surely there are laws in place so that couldn’t have happened.’ The more my eyes have been opened, the more I’ve been able to formulate an idea.”
Lucas was inspired when the actor Idris Elba called for “innovative” change while promoting his knife crime documentary in January. “Not all kitchen knives need to have a point on them,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. “That sounds like a crazy thing to say but you can still cut your food without the point on your knife.”
Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall, the chef and broadcaster, said in response: “It’s certainly true that, in the kitchen, most of the time chefs are using the blade of the knife and not the point. He told ITV’s Good Morning Britain: “Culturally, it would take some adjusting to … but I’d be all in favour. And this is clearly an incredibly serious issue across the country.”
Lucas recalled: “As soon as I saw them [blunt-tipped kitchen knives], I thought, I can’t see the need for the pointed-tip knife. And I don’t understand why they are a staple in everyone’s home.”
In the year to March 2024, a sharp instrument was the most common method of homicide in England and Wales, accounting for 262 deaths. Kitchen knives were used in 109 of them, an increase of 8 per cent on the previous 12 months.

“I feel like I can’t be a teacher anymore”
Lucas is launching her campaign, Let’s Be Blunt, during Knife Crime Awareness Week, and calls for the widespread adoption of rounded-tip kitchen knives.
She is urging households, manufacturers, retailers and policymakers to adopt the simple but potentially life-saving change. Knives with blunt tips, she said, were still functional but “far less likely to be misused as weapons”.
Leisa Nichols-Drew, a forensic scientist at De Montfort University in Leicestershire, has researched this area and said that rounded ends could reduce knife crime and prevent serious injuries within the home. “We want to remove the need for pointed knives. The majority of fatal injuries are caused by penetrative stabbings,” she said.
Lucas said a simple task everyone could do was a “sharp instrument inventory in your kitchen”. She explained: “We often have more kitchen knives than we think, some of which are given as Christmas gifts, or housewarming presents.”
On the campaign website, users can click a button in which they pledge their commitment to exchanging pointed knives for those with rounded tips.
Over the past few months, Lucas has met ministers and members of the royal family. She beamed as she recalled speaking to the Prince and Princess of Wales. “They came to pay their respects to the families and the survivors, because what happened to us touched the hearts of everyone in the country,” she said.
“We talked about the real issues we have in the country, and I became so passionate about what I want to do next, what I want to change and how I view the world evolving. I felt real support from them.”

“Why is it up to survivors to make a difference?”
She has held talks with Sir Keir Starmer too. “I felt he listened to what I had to say. He was understanding of the survivor’s point of view and gave me some inkling into what’s already in place [and] what is taking shape.”
Labour has pledged to halve knife crime over the next decade and, since reclaiming power, has announced a string of policies to help stem the bloodshed. They include the introduction of two-step verification for online knife sales, making ninja swords illegal and issuing heavy fines to social media bosses if they ignore warnings to remove harmful content that glorifies knife violence.
Dame Diana Johnson, the crime and policing minister, said that “nothing is off the table” when it came to taking lethal blades off the streets.
“We are actively exploring options and pursuing changes in this area, and I will be meeting retailers and manufacturers to develop next steps on the promotion of rounded-tipped knives,” she said.
“Our mission to halve knife crime over a decade will be delivered through tougher enforcement and stronger prevention.”
During our conversation, Lucas paid tribute to the Ben Kinsella Trust, an anti-knife-crime charity, which has supported her campaign.
The trust is named after a 16-year-old boy who was fatally stabbed by a stranger as he celebrated the end of his GCSEs in north London in June 2008. “Meeting all these people who are working tirelessly to reduce knife crime was encouraging. It was comforting,” she added.

Patrick Green, the charity’s chief executive, said: “Leanne is one of thousands of people with lived experience working night and day to tackle knife crime across the country. It’s a huge part of our response to knife crime — which is often undervalued and underfunded.
“Every kitchen is an armoury, and changing from pointed knives to rounded knives is something we can all do without having to wait for politicians to slowly legislate.”
As she prepared to face the media, Lucas admitted that she was “nervous” about the launch. “There is this anger in me — why do I have to say this? Why is it up to survivors to make a difference?” she said. “Why not the people making the rules [and] enforcing the law? It’s almost like if I don’t speak, who is going to make the change fast enough?”
As we talked, something Lucas said about never having contemplated life as a campaigner stuck in the mind. She has recently qualified as a counsellor, but when asked if she had planned to return to teaching full-time, she became tearful.

“I feel like I can’t be a teacher any more — just that level of responsibility … It makes me really sad and I try not to think about it,” she said. “Maybe I can work with children in a different capacity. I never would’ve thought I’d have so much interest in this area of advocacy and campaigning and, you know, trying to make that difference.
“I may be scared walking down the road, but I’m not scared of saying exactly what I think needs to happen next. I’m much stronger than I thought I was; perhaps I’m more resilient. Those closest around me can see me coming back — they see the fight I have in me.”
Better get used to swarthy rapists getting even less time on holiday in prison, muh rehabilitation, muh AI:
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politic...-or-face-collapse-of-justice-system-33g9pqgvg/https://archive.ph/5dXy2
Britain faces the “horrible reality” of having to release prisoners convicted of serious crimes early to prevent the “total and complete collapse” of law and order, the justice secretary has said.
Shabana Mahmood is preparing to announce the biggest shakeup of sentencing in more than 30 years on Thursday after the publication of an independent review carried out by David Gauke, the former Conservative justice secretary.
In an interview with The Times, Mahmood said she would have to make changes that were “not choices I would ever want to make”.
However, she said it was her responsibility to “fix the underlying problem once and for all” as she warned that failure to act would risk the “total breakdown of law and order in this country” leaving police unable to make arrests and courts unable to hold trials.

Among the most controversial changes will be a new “progression model” for prisoners that will allow some to be released after serving only a third of their sentences if they behave well, and ending jail terms altogether for offenders sentenced to less than a year. Instead, these criminals will be made to serve tougher community sentences, filling potholes and clearing fly-tipping hotspots while wearing high-visibility jackets to “make it clear and obvious that this is a group of people who are repaying their debt to society”.
The government is also talking to private companies to create a scheme that would employ offenders in conventional jobs, but dock their wages and put the funds into a pot for victims.


Mahmood said that increasing the visibility of criminals carrying out unpaid work would encourage them to change their behaviour, and said she was prepared to take on trade unions who may resist a mass expansion of unpaid work out of concern it that it may threaten members’ jobs.
She said: “I do believe that there’s got to be some sense of visibility around the act of reparation. So I want to explore exactly what shape that takes. But I absolutely believe in it being clear and obvious that this is a group of people who are repaying their debt to society. I think also for offenders, while it looks like it’s a tactic for shame, it can actually be the spur to change.”
The justice secretary admitted that sending fewer criminals to jail would be “very difficult” for Labour MPs facing the threat of Nigel Farage’s Reform UK party, but said they would have to make “unpalatable choices” to fix the prisons crisis “once and for all”.
Asked what her message would be to Labour MPs facing accusations that the party had gone soft on crime, she said: “This issue and this crisis and what it means for people all over the country, it’s far above party politics. I appreciate these are very, very difficult decisions. I find making these decisions difficult for myself.
“I’ve got to consider the whole of the system, how to do right by everybody and we’re facing some very, very stark choices. It’s a horrible reality to be in. It shows the scale of the terrible inheritance that the Conservative Party left behind.
“But this is where we have a duty, we have to act in the nation’s best interest, we have to make sure that there is a criminal justice system worthy of the name. We have to make sure we don’t run out of prison places.”
Mahmood admitted that it went against her principles to make changes that would mean fewer criminals went to prison. “I would always have been described as law-and-order Labour,” she said. “I believe in strong punishment. I think that when our rules are broken you have to punish offenders to show that there are consequences.
“I grew up in a high-crime area. I know what the impacts are on community confidence when you have so-called low-level crime running amok and feeling like it goes unpunished.”
Quoting Michael Howard’s famous slogan, “prison works”, she insisted that prisons had a “vitally important role to play”.

Until last week, jails were on course to be entirely full by November, a crisis that was narrowly averted by limiting how long repeat offenders can be recalled to prison after breaching their licence conditions.
However, this is only a palliative measure and Gauke’s review will recommend a fundamental overhaul of sentencing in a bid to alleviate pressure on the system. The changes will come alongside the government’s prison building plans, with 14,000 additional places to be built by 2031.
Nearly half of these places will be created by building three new prisons, funded by a £4.7 billion package announced by Mahmood last week after securing the investment from Rachel Reeves, the chancellor. It was the first funding from the chancellor’s upcoming spending review to be confirmed publicly.
Mahmood has also secured £700 million from the Treasury to buy almost 30,000 tags, which will quadruple the number of criminals electronically monitored by the probation service.

However, even with the new places already planned, the prison population in England and Wales, which now stands at 88,087, is projected to require another 9,500 places by 2028.
“The prison population will go up and it will have gone up by the end of this parliament quite significantly,” Mahmood said. “Building remains a key part of how we get ourselves out of this mess as well as sentence reform. Where I want to be by the end of this parliament is to be running a prison system and a wider criminal justice system that is no longer moving from crisis to crisis, where he prisons aren’t any longer on the brink of collapse.”
Gauke was tasked with finding measures to free up enough space by then and to ensure that prisons never run out of space again. One of his headline recommendations, which is set to be adopted by the government, is a new three-stage model for prisoners.
Each prisoner will be given a minimum and a maximum sentence, depending on the seriousness of their crime. The earliest a prisoner can get released will be 33 per cent of the way through their sentence, a proportion is even lower than the present emergency early release scheme introduced last autumn, under which more than 16,000 inmates have been let out after serving only 40 per cent of their sentences.
Prisoners will be able to earn their way towards the earliest release dates through good behaviour, engaging in rehabilitation programmes and regular work. If they misbehave by committing violence, are found to have contraband or refuse to work while in prison, they will have to serve longer, potentially up to their maximum sentences. Automatic early release of prisoners, which was first introduced in the 1990s, will be scrapped.
The reforms mirror the incentive-based system introduced by Texas in 2007, which has significantly reduced the state’s prison population and reoffending rate.
Under the reforms, the typical prisoner will be released from jail early and put under house arrest, monitored by electronic tags. The final part of their sentence will be served in the community, carrying out unpaid work, for example. If they breach their conditions or commit crimes while on licence they will face being sent back to jail.

Under the reforms, thousands of serious offenders — including violent criminals — will be released from jail after serving as little as a third of their sentences.
Mahmood acknowledged that some of those released from prison early would reoffend, but pointed out that this was already the case. “The sad reality is at the moment 80 per cent of offenders are reoffenders,” she said. “So of course I cannot rule out the possibility of some of these individuals reoffending. No justice secretary ever could.” However, she said she hoped that a new graduated system of sentences would make a difference.
Another big reform will introduce a presumption against sending criminals to jail for less than 12 months. The length of suspended sentences, ow capped at two years, will also be extended.
This reform will benefit women in particular and help to achieve Mahmood’s goal of reducing the female prison population, which now stands at 3,568, by up to two thirds.
She said: “The reason I think prison doesn’t work for women is because they go in, so many of them, for sentences of under 12 months. Sentences of under 12 months necessarily reflect less serious offences and so you end up destroying the lives of their children for those less serious offences.
“Because that harm passes down generations in such a clear, stark way, and because so many children leave the family home when Mum goes to prison in a way that’s not replicated when that might be their dad, I think we’ve got to have a public policy shift.”
Mahmood is expected to accept the bulk of Gauke’s recommendations against her own instincts. “These are not choices I would ever want to make,” she said. “Once you are basically about to hit zero capacity, we would have to convene all of the players in the criminal justice system. And police would no longer be able to make arrests. Courts can’t do trials. The best you could transition to at that point would be a one in, one out system.”
Mahmood said that however “unpalatable” the decisions she had to take were, the alternative was worse. “I can see that is the bigger disaster,” she said. “The stark reality is you’ve actually only got two choices at that point — you shut the front door in to prisons or you open the back door. No time for probation. Nothing you can do but literally use your emergency powers, cancel sentences and let people walk out. For a law-and-order Labour person, that’s unconscionable. That is the thing I’m absolutely trying to avoid at all costs.”
Mahmood acknowledged that her sentencing reforms would create “inevitable tensions” with the government’s efforts to halve knife crime and rates of male violence against women within a decade, which are being led by Yvette Cooper, the home secretary.
She insisted that restoring the criminal justice was even more important. “It’s the prime mission,” she said. “We can’t deliver justice, proper punishment for victims if the system collapses.”
I saved the best for last; BLACK PEOPLE oy vey! He's been dead for 60+ years but he was soooooo problematic! he invented woke don't you know:
https://www.thetimes.com/comment/co...politics-are-still-driving-us-apart-2m86hhm2v/https://archive.is/PKND9
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((DANIEL FINKELSTEIN))
In the summer of 1963 hundreds of people began to gather in the streets on the approach to Harlem’s Salem Church, and many more hung out of windows, keen to catch a glimpse of that Sunday’s preacher. Dr Martin Luther King Jr was on his way.
King had already become a symbol of the civil rights movement and within a few weeks would deliver one of the greatest speeches of the 20th century. And he had just a few days earlier been rehearsing some of its themes and rhetoric, telling audiences of his “dream”, one in which his children would be judged “on the content of their character, not on the colour of their skin”.
On this day in Harlem there were the usual cheers from African Americans but from other black people, a minority but still a proper grouping, came boos. And then, worse still, came eggs, striking his car as he got out of it.

The dissidents had been prompted to attend by a rival preacher and activist. The previous evening Malcolm X had encouraged his followers to “go up there and let Uncle Tom know that we are against him and do not believe what he preaches”. When he got safely inside the church, King remarked how he had become accustomed to white mobs in Mississippi and Alabama but found what had just happened much harder to accept.
On Monday it was the centenary of the birth of Malcolm X. Thought of as one of the great leaders of the civil rights cause, he was at best irrelevant to it (meeting King only once for the length of time it took for him to obtain the contemporary equivalent of a selfie), at worst actively antagonistic. Yet he is still one of the most influential political figures of the 20th century, making an enduring impact. And the division between his approach to politics and race and that of King remains strongly present in modern politics.
The influence of Malcolm X can be detected in every art gallery and National Trust property; it pitches its tent at every student occupation, can be seen in social media posts every day, it speaks up in parliamentary debates, is a presence at every protest rally.
In life Malcolm X was turbulent and argumentative and made himself the spokesman of a crank movement, the Nation of Islam, that foresaw mankind being delivered from blue-eyed devils by a wheel-shaped, half-mile-wide spacecraft piloted by black men with psychic powers. Eventually he clashed with the real leader of the movement, Elijah Muhammad, had a squalid row involving redeeming his mortgage and his threat to expose Elijah’s affairs, and was shot dead by Nation of Islam confederates.
Malcolm X’s charisma gave force to his advocacy of black separatism and made his flirtation with violence and his disdain for King’s non-violent movement appear a potent threat. It attracted copious press coverage and the adherence of the boxer Cassius Clay (who then became Muhammad Ali). And his fame led to a breach with the Nation.
On the run from his former allies, Malcolm X forged a new identity, becoming a more conventional Muslim, visiting Mecca and touring Africa and the Middle East studying Islam. During this tour he endorsed the idea of black unity and, in a visit to Gaza, extended it to the issue of Palestinian rights.
Back in America, where King marched with rabbis, Malcolm X complained that “the Jews run the country”. Earlier he had met the Ku Klux Klan and complained that “the Jew is behind the integration movement, using the Negro as the tool”. He criticised civil rights leaders who had married white women and complained that Jews weren’t a role model for African Americans seeking empowerment because “they usually go and use the economic weapon”. He thought that weapon unavailable to black people.
None of this did all that much to advance the rights of African Americans. To read any history of the civil rights movement is to be struck by how little Malcolm X contributed. Like the suffragettes who probably delayed women’s emancipation, Malcolm X almost certainly did more harm than good. Like the suffragettes his anger was understandable, justified, but compared to King (or in the case of women’s rights, Millicent Fawcett) ineffective. His influence lay more in his ideas than in his achievements.
In his short life (he died before he was 40, as did King) Malcolm X developed and articulated some of the themes that now dominate left discourse, particularly in the United States, but also here. His was an identity politics, seeing himself as black first rather than as American first. His chief criticism of capitalism was that it was racist and imperialist and he stressed the extent to which American wealth derived from the original sin of slavery. A main demand was for reparations. He played a leading role in making Palestine a left cause and brought political Islam into the western left. The rather odd alliance between conservative religion and socialism owes a lot to Malcolm X.
He often called for African Americans to “wake up” — he told audiences that Islam was “spreading like a flaming fire awakening and uniting Negroes where it is heard”. He was certainly a crucial figure in the shaping of the so-called “woke” ideology. When a sign in a National Trust property emphasises the role that slavery played in the accumulated wealth, it was Malcolm X who successfully made this idea into a political theme.
But while he is an icon for the left, there are echoes of his position on the right and certainly among Islamic fundamentalists. There’s a reason he met the Klan, as did his ally Muhammad Ali, who addressed a Klan rally with the words: “Black people should marry their own women. Bluebirds with bluebirds, red birds with red birds, pigeons with pigeons, eagles with eagles. God didn’t make no mistake!” Malcolm thought integration impossible and undesirable.
This, as much as their differences over violence, is what separated him from King, who believed in America and its promise and sought to gain full civic and social equality for African Americans. Malcolm thought capitalism was irredeemable. He wouldn’t gain entry to the promised land and didn’t want it.
Every day in politics, in the US and the UK too, this argument plays out. At the last election MPs were returned based on an explicit appeal to a minority ethnic group, rejecting mainstream parties. On the right, there are complaints that white working-class people are being discriminated against and supplanted by ethnic groups. The idea that integration is possible or even desirable is questioned more than it has ever been.
It is 100 years since the birth of Malcolm X and 60 since his death, but we haven’t escaped his shadow.
 
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They can only do this as long as the native authorities shields them.
Which they have been since the 80's. Maybe it will change soon, when all of the white police and military are placed by fellow pakis and niggers. I'm sure they'll not shield their own kind when that happens.
Much less interesting is the classic predictive programming/consent manufacturing, knoifes BAD:
Idris Elbow tried this and it failed. Now the government department of psyops has forced this innocent woman to suck the message or her life will be ruined. Don't look back in anger.

It's also retarded because pointed knives are great for stabbing but shit for slashing (much worse than stabbing in most cases) but rounded tips are great for slashing but shit for stabbing. All we will see if people walking around with huge, life changing scars across their face, hands, arms, chest and back. GG, idiots.
 
I got hate crime by a muslim uber driver just now. Tried to kick me out of his car, police were in front, he has now lost his uber license.
 
Much less interesting is the classic predictive programming/consent manufacturing, knoifes BAD:
Yep, with all these influences on a recently traumatised woman she completely organically and with massive backing started an anti-sharp objects campaign. As organic as Ghey's mother's campaign to crack down on freedom of the internet (technically for children but we know how this goes). Fuck me, our politicians lack any sort of subtlety.

Speaking of
Sir Keir Starmer has announced plans to ease cuts to winter fuel payments, in a U-turn following mounting political pressure in recent weeks.
More than nine million pensioners lost out on the payments, worth up to £300, when eligibility for the pension top-up was tightened last year.
Speaking at Prime Minister's Questions, Sir Keir said ministers would change the threshold to allow "more pensioners" to qualify again.
But it remains unclear how many will regain their entitlement for the payments, or when the changes will take effect.
Sir Keir said the policy would be changed at the autumm Budget, adding ministers would only "make decisions we can afford".


https://archive.ph/o/dSVs3/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gv632d05lo
The winter fuel payment is a lump-sum amount of £200 a year for pensioners under 80, increasing to £300 for over-80s, paid in November or December.
Around nine million pensioners lost out on the payments last year after the government restricted them to those who qualify for pension credit and other income-related benefits, to save an estimated £1.4bn.
The move, announced shortly after Labour took office last July, has led to fierce criticism from unions and pensioner charities.
But pressure to change course has grown in recent weeks, with some Labour MPs and councillors blaming the policy for the party's losses at last month's local elections in parts of England.
Grumbling from MPs generally on the Labour left spread into the party more widely, and even MPs who defended the policy said it was the most frequently raised issue by members of the public.

The income threshold for pension credit, the main benefit to qualify to continue to receive winter fuel payments, is currently £11,800 for individuals and £18,023 for pensioner couples.
Designing a new eligiblity threshold will now present political and practical headaches for ministers ahead of the Budget in the autumn.
Speaking to reporters, Tory leader Kemi Badenoch welcomed the "inevitable" U-turn, branding last year's changes a "cruel decision".
She called on ministers to set out "early" details of their new approach, adding that waiting for autumn's Budget would be "too late" to ensure their changes are in place for next winter.
She did not specify where she wanted the new threshold to be set, but added she did not think that "millionaires" should qualify again.
Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey welcomed the "longest U-turn" from the government, and called for the cuts to be reserved "in full".
Age UK, one of the charities opposing the cuts, welcomed the change in approach but said any new system should ensure pensioners on "low and modest incomes" would be able to keep the payments.

Asked by reporters when the changes would take effect, the prime minister's spokesman declined to guarantee it would be in place this coming winter, but added: "We obviously want to deliver this as quickly as possible.
"We will only make decisions when we can say where the money is coming from, how we're going to pay for it and that it's affordable," he added.
The winter fuel payment was introduced in 1997 by New Labour as a universal payment for all pensioners.
It was billed as a way to guarantee they would be able to pay for increased heating costs over the winter - although in practice it is a pension top-up, which recipients can spend on whatever they want.
From 2010 onwards, the state pension gained additional protection under the "triple lock" policy - under which pensions go up each year by the highest of inflation, average earnings or 2.5%.
This year state pensions went up by 4.1% - a rise of £363 a year for those on the basic pension or £472 for those on the new pension.
 
It’s everyone’s problem because
1. You’re paying for it
2. multi drug resistant bacteria exchange plasmids and genetic material, so that different species of bacteria can pick up a plasmid with multiple resistance genes in it, which you then catch through a non sexual means and
3. They spread their plagues into wider society.

It’s like the munchies incubating untold horrors in their fiddled-with PICC tubes - they incubate the horror and then it spreads to the NICU or the elderly or you when you’re in for a minor op.
That's why I have a problem with the gays. But it's their problem, not mine.
It's surprising how similarly you can compare ethnic groups and cultures that reinforce and perpetuate poisonous habits within their own "ecology" to how homosexuals encourage and groom each other into acts of criminality, degeneracy, or just straight up becoming annoying.

Similar to how you can pin a lot of worst aspects of African-Americans (fatherlessness, the glorification of crime and the committing thereof, the distrust of all authority — not completely unjustified, but still) after obtaining equality and being encouraged by welfare system (and/or inherent issues with race depending on your worldview), a lot of the worst aspects of homosexuals can be explained by the rubber banding from illegality and society-wide stigma into suddenly being allowed to do what they want and actively encouraged by the zeitgeist to do so, and be 'proud' doing it. It's not society's fault for the way they act today, but there's some deep-rooted rot that if treated early wouldn't be as big an issue as it is today.

Maybe faggots to gays might be how niggers are to blacks? Though I have yet to see an example online or elsewhere of a gay calling another gay "faggot" for being a faggot. All we've got is Willem Dafoe's character from Boondock Saints.

Great film by the way. I think the quality declines a bit near the end and the sequel wasn't much snuff but a good time all the same.

Though when blacks call out their own for being niggers, they'll still defend the behaviours of their most belligerent kin from outside critique for the sake of solidarity. It's essentially a form of power projection, and the LGBT community does this too. They avoided open critique of themselves for as long as possible to avoid a schism (at least until recently). It's why they even bothered to include trannies in the acronym to begin with, or switch around the G and L in the 90s, or failed to discourage promiscuity during the AIDs epidemic in the 80s — these moments are like O.J. Simpson's trial, 1992 LA riots, etcetera. They need to be viewed as one or else they'd have their 'rights' taken from them.

Yes, just under half of all homosexual men were molested as a child; yes, they do cope about it because its been normalised as being typical (*cough* Milo *cough*); yes, just under half of them have all been raped; yes, it was so normalised amongst the older generations that they don't see it as such and carry it on with the younger lot — but think what those crackers evil conservatives would do if they saw us squabbling with ourselves!

They still believe they're on the defensive, which I think that sentiment was finally starting to die down once gay marriage had become legislated everywhere in the West. Andrew Sullivan is a homosexual who, as Peter Mannion in the Thick of It would put it, is "well-turned-out". Contradictions in religion and sexuality aside, Sullivan posited that gay marriage would act as a "civilising force" for homosexuals and should help straighten them out (but not in that way). Stability and social responsibility would integrate them into society as 'normal' and to stop viewing themselves as the 'other'. Maybe this would have happened eventually, but similar to how race relations plunged off a cliff around 2012-on, any sense of being viewed as normal went out the window a couple years after gay marriage became legalised.

When Bruce Jenner unfortunately entered our lives as Caitlyn to distract from the fact he killed someone, there was another fight for "rights" and "recognition" thereafter initiated by the trannies. The rest is history now. Since contemporary progressive and tranny ideology is centred on queer theory (an invention of the 90s), which is itself born from post-structuralism, they eradicated the objective basis for anything to do with sexuality or biology because reality is actually subjective (that's the long and short of it) and gender roles are the product of patriarchy, ergo binary sex/gender is a spook and you can be whatever you want. The post-structuralist influences are why they beelined straight for children. Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, Gilles Deleuze — significant contributors to post-structuralism, the basis for queer theory, gender identity and so forth — all advocated for the eradication of age of consent laws. I'd be willing to concede that this isn't a problem with gays as a whole though... they were all French.

Their reasoning was that consent was just a contractual notion with no objective grounding in protecting against harm, but rather reflects cultural norms that can perpetuate power imbalances. Foucault specifically held that making the assumption minors lack capacity to consent is “intolerable” because it treats consent as a fixed, legalistic bar—


Foucault died of aids by the way.

I'm also aware of there being a vague sort of peer pressuring from within. In the stats regarding rape within the community above, only a third thought it was safe to communicate the fact they were raped with anybody else within it. Just as blacks are inclined to suboptimal lifestyles under the guise of not "acting white," there is, believe it or not, a similar sort of pressure inside the community. I was once apart of an awkward group call where a guy was bemoaning the fact his boyfriend was reluctant/hesitant to open their relationship to include a third man, and I recall the words "prude" and "baby" coming from him as pejoratives directed at the boyfriend. Similar to the casualisation of crime amongst African Americans, sexual coercion and boundaries have met similar treatment within the LGBT community ("Consent accident"). Within the circles of gay men, there was a prevalent trend during the rise of grindr and some such where non-penetrative homosexuals (A surprising stat about gays is that only under 40% actually do anal sex) were pressured by their dates/hookups into such, and it was thereafter downplayed and became something of a joke. Another example is the "Vers Agenda," yet another trend of sexual coercion that was downplayed by article writers online.

Just all around awful really. I don't really have a conclusion other than they really do need to sort themselves out.
 
What happened?
Crashed into a greggs and then got all racist.
Maybe faggots to gays might be how niggers are to blacks? Though I have yet to see an example online or elsewhere of a gay calling another gay "faggot" for being a faggot. All we've got is Willem Dafoe's character from Boondock Saints.
I think the problem (if you want to call it a "problem") is that you just don't hang out in the right places, so you never encounter it. Fags call fags fags all the fagging time. There's a reason they're called queens. Bunch of catty bitches.
 
The idea that 'Not all blacks are niggers' and 'Not all homosexuals are faggots' is wrong. Sorry, but they are essentially all like that, if you're not, fantastic, doesn't matter.
 
The idea that 'Not all blacks are niggers' and 'Not all homosexuals are faggots' is wrong. Sorry, but they are essentially all like that, if you're not, fantastic, doesn't matter.
They do have some good ones though, only the ones I know personally, the rest can fuck off, anecdotal exceptionalism shall reign supreme.
 
They do have some good ones though, only the ones I know personally, the rest can fuck off, anecdotal exceptionalism shall reign supreme.
Everyone is allowed 1-2 good ones. The rest get fed into the lime pit. Since we're all good stand up people, and will only pick the good ones to survive, this will ensure only good ones will be left.
 
Russian speaking Romanian Ukrainians?
Just FYI, all Ukranians speak Russian and for most of them it's their native tongue. That TV show that Zelensky starred in? It was in Russian. He only started learning Ukrainian after running for office and he's reportedly pretty bad in it. Ukrainian is more like a dialect of Russian smashed together with Polish and was largely something of a nationalist thing by groups in the Western end of Ukraine until they started bringing in laws to mandate its use, force it to be taught in schools and used in official communications. Same reasoning as how the English tried to stamp out the native Irish language - if you can disconnect people from their language, you can better undermine their cultural identity. Ukraine the country is only about sixty years old and a Soviet leader just drew a big line on a map to make it, including a LOT of Russians in the new state. So I'm curious to see what these guys' politics actually are. If it's a factor at all we'll probably not hear because if they're pro-Russian then that undermines the carefully curated image of the war being Ukraine vs. Russia, rather than a Ukrainian civil war that Russia eventually joined in on; and if they're pro-Kiev (speaking Russian doesn't tell you their politics) then you're even less likely to hear of it.

I wonder what their legal status is.
 
Just FYI, all Ukranians speak Russian and for most of them it's their native tongue. That TV show that Zelensky starred in? It was in Russian. He only started learning Ukrainian after running for office and he's reportedly pretty bad in it. Ukrainian is more like a dialect of Russian smashed together with Polish and was largely something of a nationalist thing by groups in the Western end of Ukraine until they started bringing in laws to mandate its use, force it to be taught in schools and used in official communications. Same reasoning as how the English tried to stamp out the native Irish language - if you can disconnect people from their language, you can better undermine their cultural identity. Ukraine the country is only about sixty years old and a Soviet leader just drew a big line on a map to make it, including a LOT of Russians in the new state. So I'm curious to see what these guys' politics actually are. If it's a factor at all we'll probably not hear because if they're pro-Russian then that undermines the carefully curated image of the war being Ukraine vs. Russia, rather than a Ukrainian civil war that Russia eventually joined in on; and if they're pro-Kiev (speaking Russian doesn't tell you their politics) then you're even less likely to hear of it.
N'wah I'm gonna respect the sanctity of Greggs by not defiling this sacred space with hoholstani vs vatnigger sperging, and will therefore limit my response to your ruzznig brainrot to a single image;
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I wonder what their legal status is.
I do too, we shouldn't be letting in sussy baka slavshits just because they're the Good Guys(tm), the refugee settlement program was a cockup.
 
Just FYI, all Ukranians speak Russian and for most of them it's their native tongue. That TV show that Zelensky starred in? It was in Russian. He only started learning Ukrainian after running for office and he's reportedly pretty bad in it. Ukrainian is more like a dialect of Russian smashed together with Polish and was largely something of a nationalist thing by groups in the Western end of Ukraine until they started bringing in laws to mandate its use, force it to be taught in schools and used in official communications. Same reasoning as how the English tried to stamp out the native Irish language - if you can disconnect people from their language, you can better undermine their cultural identity. Ukraine the country is only about sixty years old and a Soviet leader just drew a big line on a map to make it, including a LOT of Russians in the new state. So I'm curious to see what these guys' politics actually are. If it's a factor at all we'll probably not hear because if they're pro-Russian then that undermines the carefully curated image of the war being Ukraine vs. Russia, rather than a Ukrainian civil war that Russia eventually joined in on; and if they're pro-Kiev (speaking Russian doesn't tell you their politics) then you're even less likely to hear of it.

I wonder what their legal status is.
I'm not reading that, happy for you, or sorry it happened.
 
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