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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[A-Logato]

My money is on Reform getting the afd treatment. They have too many young lads voted in for them all to be politically savvy. At least one will say something daft then they all get labelled and it's a slippery slope to the party getting banned.

My bet is one of them sings ausländer raus at a party

 

[teriyakiburns]

What on Earth was Labour thinking with this? This is directly disadvantaging British workers in favour of foreign workers.

I think you answered your own question there.

 

[Mound Dweller]

Here's to 10000 more, glory glory halleluiah to the Eternal Greggs Thread and the Greater Anglo Race.

congrats on the 1000th page, and fuck you @Mound Dweller you autist

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

I am beyond angry, and I am a pretty relaxed person, but this "deal" with India is a death warrant. In a country where it is increasingly difficult to find a job, it is going to be impossible. Indians will take over management more than they do now and fester this country. Indians are trash, unintelligent, and depraved. Their culture is disgusting.

Gratz we will become Canada and Starmer you dumb faggot this will make immigration worse because THERE IS NO FUCKING CAP! You fucking mongoloid.

I went to my local city and I am in a heavily white area well was and I encountered so many fucking Indians. It was a disgusting and nauseating experience, topped by the fact that none of them are even nice to look at. They all have that shit skin tone which is fitting.

Apologies for my tirade. Anyone who has worked with Indians before knows how disgusting and ineffective they are. What is funnier they may have given Reform and the Conservatives the Muslim vote because they despise the Indians, which is hilarious.

edit - forgot to add prepare to hear SAARRR, SAARRRR PLEASE NO REDEEM more.

Saaar I would like the Gregg's job Saar. Please, I like sausage roll Saar. Hands very clean saaar.

Edit: A thousand pages of Gregg's posting and here's to a thousand more saaar.

 

[Mr Bunny]

Happy page 1,000, US state 52.

 

[Smyrna]

I do think there's a possibility that a GE is called to prevent Reform from getting enough momentum to become a MAJORITY but I think that's already sailed. It'd require Labour and Conservatives to form a coalition in order to prevent Reform from making huge gains.

That horse has already bolted. If there were a GE this Thursday then it would return a Reform majority. No question.

Judging by some of the backbench responses to last Thursday's results, at least some of them understand that - which is why they are all going to dig in for as long as possible.

 

[FedPostalService]

Are you drunk?

If you're not drunk you're not British.

Holy fucking shit. Just looking a the trade deal. No cap, even on Indian students? Indians coming in on student visa with fake qualifications is a MASSIVE source of immigration fraud, There are massive gangs running it.

I'm so close to fucking fed posting right now. It's fucking retarded. It just spits in the face of the British public.

I am honestly flabbergasted.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

So right here's the thing, lets just assume Reform and AFD are fascists, like full blown jackboots swastika Nazis. The first question would be "How did we get here?"

If we do a quick history course we'll notice that 1930s Germany was absolutely fucked thanks to losing World War 1, an influx of diseases FROM World War 1, an incompetent government completely unfit to rule, a 'us and them' type of hierarchy between wealthy communities that keep wealth within those communities, and an unclear national plan in how to unfuck any of it. Does this sound like a strong and stable country that could fend off populist ideals? Do you think this is a country that could fix any of those problems without subjecting a population to generations of grief and poverty? Moreso, do you see parallels between the United Kingdom in 2025 even though they're not as extreme examples?

Similar things happened in Italy, Russia (multiple times) and other countries. There's a point where the public hits such a level of voter apathy that they become militarized.

But here's the kicker, Reform and AFD AREN'T Nazis, they just so happen to offer the furthest right opinions in a world where centrism is considered the most right you can typically go. In fact the public is really fucking lucky that we've got Reform here and AFD in Germany because the political situation across Europe could very well lead to something that makes these parties look like left wingers. Death penalty, concentration camps, dissolution of elections etc.

 

[A-Logato]

Holy fucking shit. Just looking a the trade deal. No cap, even on Indian students? Indians coming in on student visa with fake qualifications is a MASSIVE source of immigration fraud, There are massive gangs running it.

I'm so close to fucking fed posting right now. It's fucking retarded. It just spits in the face of the British public.

I am honestly flabbergasted.

Yes but just think of how much money we'll make selling India whisky?

 

[>IMPLYING]

I am beyond angry, and I am a pretty relaxed person, but this "deal" with India is a death warrant. In a country where it is increasingly difficult to find a job, it is going to be impossible.

Similar to how politicians from the Tories and Farage assured businesses that cheap foreign labour wouldn't stop after Brexit cuts down European immigrants, because they'd just be replaced them with non-Euros instead, I'd posit that this might be a similar, except the government might take measures to cut the arrival of Muslims but put businesses at ease by assuring them that Indians will make up for the loss.

Whilst Labour want to restrict visas on ostensibly Muslim countries, we see the Conservatives (And Lib Dems too) floating the idea of banning non-stun slaughter in some of their pamphlets (I had a Lib Dem one but I left it someplace; I'll take a picture and post it if I find it later). Of course if you try to google this you'll only find articles from Jews and Muslims abroad complaining about it but I think the mainstream parties will be willing to sacrifice Muslims to assure their own asses - doesn't mean they'll actually try to stem immigration in any meaningful way beyond that. If they ban their special meat, then ban their hijabs/niqabs, you'll make it very hard to be a Muslim in the UK, which is the only optics-friendly way the powers that be have of trying to quell their numbers. Labour won't be the one to do it though.



If this were pre-2016 I don't think I would've found an influx of Indians as harrowing as I would Muslims, but recent years have demonstrated that they're just as bad when present in large enough numbers, such as in Canada. Their reputation as a whole has plummeted in recent years. Kitboga is an unsung hero.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

Yes but just think of how much money we'll make selling India whisky?

Being Indian is enough reason for anyone to become an alcoholic.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Holy fucking shit. Just looking a the trade deal. No cap, even on Indian students? Indians coming in on student visa with fake qualifications is a MASSIVE source of immigration fraud, There are massive gangs running it.

With employers not having to pay national insurance either, it now means that it will be cheaper for a firm to employ Indian workers than any other worker.

 

[Made In Wales]

You know, I'm actually starting to credit @Made In Wales 's prediction that there'll be a GE sooner than people think. I don't know what could possibly induce Labour and Tory MPs to allow a Confidence motion in the face of the slaughter that would result right now, but I don't recall a government facing so much anger by the public and if said public are not given the chance to push back at them democratically, it's going to come out in other ways.

What on Earth was Labour thinking with this? This is directly disadvantaging British workers in favour of foreign workers.

Thanks very much for the vote of confidence @Overly Serious !

It would seem that even Welsh Labour has had enough of Westminster Labour, and Eluned Morgan (the Leader of Wales) has stated that she is losing patience with Starmer:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/key-points-eluned-morgans-big-31580513

This is unprecedented, as Welsh Labour and Westminster Labour enjoyed a cosy relationship during the Blair and Brown years.

The news comes on the same day that it's announced that Labour would be the third party in the Senedd with the following numbers (bearing in mind that the number of Senedd seats are going to increase from 60 to 96):

Plaid Cymru: 35 seats
Reform UK: 30 seats
Labour: 19 seats
Conservatives: 9 seats
Liberal Democrats: 3 seats

 

[Crunkle]

No, just a bit emotionally unstable ATM.

You should definitely stay and post here.

That Indian trade deal is fucking disgusting. How does Labour just sleepwalk into this a few days after an historical set of election results?

 

[Drihten]

Happy page 1000 gents

Reform have seen this news regarding Indian visas and have now pounced, which will no doubt ensure that even Boomer normies know about this.
I don't like Farage, but I'm confident that Reform has this in the bag now, Labour is FUCKED, they have no clue what they're doing, like a headless chicken.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

@FedPostalService Bro, I was so close to fedposting

Indeed, for UK companies, that would mean they will not pay NI. Grats, Starmer, you have sealed your fate. Even the fucking Guardian are mocking this, christ even PoliticalUK is not too happy and that is far left. You just made more people go to Reform and again you made us look weak because you're a snivelling faggot. You did this purely for Indian votes you treacherous CUNT!

Happy page 1000 you Greggs loving bastards!

Edit: I just saw Farage's response, and he is spot on. I can practice accountancy, but I contacted someone I know in payroll, and it is correct.

 

[teriyakiburns]

t would seem that even Welsh Labour has had enough of Westminster Labour, and Eluned Morgan (the Leader of Wales) has stated that she is losing patience with Starmer:

I've been floating the idea of an early election for a while already. Don't know if I said it on KF (I did say Starmer would be in serious trouble by May, just wanted to say that again because I like stroking my own ego), but elsewhere for sure. The reaction has generally been "why would labour MPs vote against the man who got them into power?" or something along those lines, which ignores that Starmer is guaranteeing they will be out at the next election. Forcing an election now changes a certainty into a maybe. Enough of the rebels thinking along those lines means a vote of no confidence, or even just a leadership challenge, would be an absolute certainty before the year is out.

That Indian trade deal is fucking disgusting. How does Labour just sleepwalk into this a few days after an historical set of election results?

They wanted this deal even when they were in opposition and were, IIRC, complaining that it didn't go far enough.

 

[Made In Wales]

You should definitely stay and post here.

That Indian trade deal is fucking disgusting. How does Labour just sleepwalk into this a few days after an historical set of election results?

Do they really have a say in this, with Common Purpose, DEMOS and other infiltrators/apparatchiks 'guiding' them in making ever more stupid and crazy decisions?

It's a dumb idea and it will cost them (along with everything else) when the GE comes around.

If a Summer GE is to be called, then the latest I would expect us to go to the Polls is July 17th which would mean that the State Opening of Parliament would be on July 30th and Parliament breaking for Summer a day later.

It would also be one of the shortest gaps between General Elections in history, but longer than that of 1974 (nine months) and the 1923 and 1924 GE's (ten months). At a year and a week (or two) it would be the shortest gap of the 21st century where we've been used to either four or five year terms - although 2015, 2017 and 2019 all had General Elections (though two of them were largely as a result of the Brexit negotiations).

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

I think a GE will not happen until 2029. Unless a load of Labour MPs decide they would prefer to be Reform MPs, it is simply never going to happen. The British people don't have enough unity to mount protests for long enough and those that do all get bloody locked up anyway.

I would happily eat my words but just look at what happened in France when Macron called an early election hoping it would catch the RN on the back foot. Now Macron's party is one of the smallest in parliament.

 

[Overly Serious]

You should definitely stay and post here.

That Indian trade deal is fucking disgusting. How does Labour just sleepwalk into this a few days after an historical set of election results?

I wonder how many British companies will read the public sentiment and decide not to take up the 20% discount on Indian workers the government's tax system creates, even if it hits short-term profits.

I've been floating the idea of an early election for a while already. Don't know if I said it on KF (I did say Starmer would be in serious trouble by May, just wanted to say that again because I like stroking my own ego), but elsewhere for sure. The reaction has generally been "why would labour MPs vote against the man who got them into power?" or something along those lines, which ignores that Starmer is guaranteeing they will be out at the next election. Forcing an election now changes a certainty into a maybe. Enough of the rebels thinking along those lines means a vote of no confidence, or even just a leadership challenge, would be an absolute certainty before the year is out.

The Tories might, counter-intuitively, side with the Labour whip on voting against No Confidence, because they stand to be wiped out as much as Labour or more. Perhaps some strategic alliance with Reform might induce them to vote No Confidence.

Still, Labour has a 156 seat majority which is huge. And evidently Starmer is willing to see the UK burn if it has to. Not sure what can bring about an early GE short of major civil unrest. Anyone know how hot this Summer's going to be?