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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I saw more Farage and Reform UK like Javier Milei case in Argentina:
Nobody Voted Milei because his ideologies, everybody voted Milei because nobody likes Kichnerism (Socialism/Peronism) and traditional Oposition (Macri's Coalition of Parties were a shit). In this case, many people voted Farage's Reform UK because nobody likes Tories and Labourists. That's because Democrat Liberals get gains, few gains but gains from former Tory and Labour Strongholds.
 
From an international point of view, I've seen nothing on not only news where I live, but also EU news outlets. A rejection of the British two party system without any mention anywhere else.

I don't pretend that Britain is the most important country in the world, but I still expected a more significant reaction internationally.

I'm hoping that if Britain rejects the two party system entirely it shows people living in other countries that there's perhaps an alternative to the establishment parties.
 
Slightly OT so I am sorry, but does anyone watch the videos by Richard Vobes/the bald explorer on You Tube?
 

A 212 seat majority? WOW!

IF this happened (and it is a big IF) then it's game over completely for the Left and for the Tories.

Can I see Reform UK getting this majority? It would be nice to, but I think we'll score just under 400 seats come the next GE with the Lib Dems possibly getting 210-220 if they rule out a pact with the Greens. Plaid could take Gower and Brecon but I think they'd lose Carmarthen.

As for the SNP - damage limitation, possibly 3-5 seats at best (matching their 1992 tally).

Things are looking very good for Reform UK, but they need to own the moment and build for the future today.

BrightonAndHoveAlbion said:
From an international point of view, I've seen nothing on not only news where I live, but also EU news outlets. A rejection of the British two party system without any mention anywhere else.

I don't pretend that Britain is the most important country in the world, but I still expected a more significant reaction internationally.

I'm hoping that if Britain rejects the two party system entirely it shows people living in other countries that there's perhaps an alternative to the establishment parties.
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Strangely enough, an article referenced by Guido Fawkes which mentions a town nearby to your good self - Worthing - recently caught my eye and made me realise that we've been here before with defeating tyranny:


Just as the Skeleton Army wanted peace and quiet and the right to live their lives without being bothered by do-gooders who demanded that they lie by their moral code, today we also have a similar battle to get the peace and quiet we desire (and which should be rightfully ours) without the psuedomoralism of the Woke aka the self appointed 'Good People'.
 
Nopenopenope said:
Even forgetting about sand niggers for a moment, the local elections are for local governance. Everyone knows councils are full of incompetent people working from home, wasting/mismanaging public money and being paid well for it. If Nig-el Farage can actually follow through with some of his talking points of British doge, it might be a full map of that weird blue teal.
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It's worth paying attention to part of that "wasting/mismanaging public money and being paid well for it" being them kicking money up to the political party they are a member of. In Lambeth where Labour lost to the Green Party they've voted 32% increase in what they get as pay while also sending money directly to UK Labour.


Also with MPs like Tulip Siddiq making it through whatever vetting system they have(by having some other corrupt politicaian in Bangladesh donate cash to Labour) you have to understand that they will want policies set to get that investment back somehow.

 
teriyakiburns said:
BBC decided to headline Andrea Jenkyns being an ex Greggs worker. Greggsposters keep winning.
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But was she being racist while working at Greggs?
BrightonAndHoveAlbion said:
From an international point of view, I've seen nothing on not only news where I live, but also EU news outlets. A rejection of the British two party system without any mention anywhere else.

I don't pretend that Britain is the most important country in the world, but I still expected a more significant reaction internationally.

I'm hoping that if Britain rejects the two party system entirely it shows people living in other countries that there's perhaps an alternative to the establishment parties.
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I can state that some of my fellow Americans have certainly noticed the wins and are cheering you guys on. Trump might not be tweeting out Gamergate any time soon but don't think he and his administration haven't noticed what a big shift this portends, especially down the line a year or two.
 
Snekposter said:
I can state that some of my fellow Americans have certainly noticed the wins and are cheering you guys on.
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Lol, I'm one of them, but I just came here to say I felt bad that the UK saw a historic challenge to their 2 party norm in countrywide local elections, but someone in America said nigger so now no one cares.
 
When will be able to find out data on voting demographics, or will that not be published/available?
 
Made In Wales said:

A 212 seat majority? WOW!

IF this happened (and it is a big IF) then it's game over completely for the Left and for the Tories.

Can I see Reform UK getting this majority? It would be nice to, but I think we'll score just under 400 seats come the next GE with the Lib Dems possibly getting 210-220 if they rule out a pact with the Greens. Plaid could take Gower and Brecon but I think they'd lose Carmarthen.

As for the SNP - damage limitation, possibly 3-5 seats at best (matching their 1992 tally).

Things are looking very good for Reform UK, but they need to own the moment and build for the future today.
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It's interesting though I'm wary of too simplistic extrapolation. There were more council elections in the Fake North (aka Midlands) than the actual North and I don't think there were any in London. So some significant wildcards in play. Still, you're not wrong that if there were a GE there'd be a very powerful Reform swing. More people show up for GE than council elections though and the extras are typically the less politically involved and motivated, who I think might tend more to stick with what they've always voted. But you say yourself it's a big "IF" so no arguments. I still think you're very optimistic to imagine a GE this Summer. Yes, the Labour party are at each other's throats but most of them know that it's MAD to resort of confidence motions. Hell, I could imagine Tories voting against No Confidence if the alternative were to have a GE right now. Reform would devour them more than Labour!

Made In Wales said:
Strangely enough, an article referenced by Guido Fawkes which mentions a town nearby to your good self - Worthing - recently caught my eye and made me realise that we've been here before with defeating tyranny:
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Guido Fawkes has a permanent black mark from me against them for one of their "articles" saying to Kemi Badenoch, who studied computer systems engineering, that "running the country isn't as simple as writing an operating system". Fuckers. Systems Programming is one of the most difficult types of computer programming. Whilst I've seen any number of idiots succeed in politics.

On the subject of "Guido Fawkes" though, I imagine when Labour and Tory politicians looked out of their windows yesterday morning it looked a little like this to them:
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Made In Wales said:

A 212 seat majority? WOW!

IF this happened (and it is a big IF) then it's game over completely for the Left and for the Tories.

Can I see Reform UK getting this majority? It would be nice to, but I think we'll score just under 400 seats come the next GE with the Lib Dems possibly getting 210-220 if they rule out a pact with the Greens. Plaid could take Gower and Brecon but I think they'd lose Carmarthen.

As for the SNP - damage limitation, possibly 3-5 seats at best (matching their 1992 tally).

Things are looking very good for Reform UK, but they need to own the moment and build for the future today.
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I'm wondering what they could get done in one parliament as they'd just end up scrapping with the Lords for five years.

I need to see the details of the Great Repeal Act everyone wants and I want to see it on the first page of their manifesto and it needs to be the thing they launch on their first day in power as without it they'll just be screaming into the wind as the Supreme Court and ECHR tells them they can't do anything.
 
BrightonAndHoveAlbion said:
In the West of England election, they only released vote information by area. If you were really bothered you could cross reference it with council demographic statistics.
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You’d need to look at approval poll data for that, and even then I’m not sure if any organisations collected that. Whilst the councils will have the names of who voted doing anything with that data would be both a legal and ethical nightmare that could undermine the sanctity of the ballot box.
 
Bog-standard Poster said:
When will be able to find out data on voting demographics, or will that not be published/available?
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I think the government usually releases one of those papers after a while.

Otherwise, your vote is totally anonymous. Only way you'll know is from any pollsters outside of polling stations and then trust they're telling the truth.
 
Snekposter said:
Just gotta make sure the English don't stab the Poles in the back. Again.
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We had no money after WW2, we spent every last penny protecting Poland from Germany. To call it a backstab is rather disingenuous, there was nothing we could do. America also didn't really lend a hand out either did they?
 
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