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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Who will he side with? His jewish wife, or his muzzies butt-buddy?
Whilst I disagree with you that the UK will ultimately have a Muslim PM in the next 5 years, I think this issue (and potentially if sides are taken in a Pakistan vs India war/skirmish) it might be the catalyst that finally spurs on the creation of a Muslim party.

My precedent for this is DENK. They're a Muslim-oriented party in the Netherlands that split off from the main Labour party during the 2013 migrant crisis when — shock and horror! — they wanted to make sure Islamist groups in the country weren't radicalising people. Continually ignoring Palestine might be enough to prompt a Muslim schism perhaps? Or that in conjunction to a possible Pakistani vs India conflict abroad. Alternatively the current Muslim independents in parliament might form something closer to the general election when momentum might be highest. It also defacto exists, just without a name attached; they may prefer that, since having an out and open 'Muslim party' would piss a lot of people off I imagine.

EDIT: Also factor in Trump and trying to cosy up to America — we saw it with his response to the tariffs. Supporting Israel is paramount.
 
Whilst I disagree with you that the UK will ultimately have a Muslim PM in the next 5 years, I think this issue (and potentially if sides are taken in a Pakistan vs India war/skirmish) it might be the catalyst that finally spurs on the creation of a Muslim party.

My precedent for this is DENK. They're a Muslim-oriented party in the Netherlands that split off from the main Labour party during the 2013 migrant crisis when — shock and horror! — they wanted to make sure Islamist groups in the country weren't radicalising people. Continually ignoring Palestine might be enough to prompt a Muslim schism perhaps? Or that in conjunction to a possible Pakistani vs India conflict abroad. Alternatively the current Muslim independents in parliament might form something closer to the general election when momentum might be highest. It also defacto exists, just without a name attached; they may prefer that, since having an out and open 'Muslim party' would piss a lot of people off I imagine.

There are enough mongs to believe "free, free palestine" to vote for an islamic party. In the norff where the pakis run rampant and all of the local mps are paki, they all vote labour. Bradford and Dewsbury are labour voters. If there's a split in the labour party, or the imams give the order to stop voting labour and instead vote for the mulsim party, Labour is over. It's why, conspiracy theories aside, Labour are bending over backwards to appease Muslims, because it's their biggest voting block.

As we saw in South Leeds with the independent party, there was a Muslim candidate who ran on free palestine and shariah law. He won in a landslide. South Leeds is blathered in pakis. Two of the terrorists who blew themselves up in London were from South Leeds and to this day there's a terror cell there. Nobody cares though, but I digress.

A combination of lefty-normies who want migrants flooding in, want palestine to be free, want the chuds and misogynists to suffer, would easily be fooled into voting for pro-islam, pro-shariah law candidates because they can't see a paki leader and think "hold on, something isn't right here".
 
A combination of lefty-normies who want migrants flooding in, want palestine to be free, want the chuds and misogynists to suffer, would easily be fooled into voting for pro-islam, pro-shariah law candidates because they can't see a paki leader and think "hold on, something isn't right here".
I think if they formed such a party they'd do something similar to minority-aligned parties in Germany and the Netherlands: go all in on optics ad try not to appear what they actually are, at least to start with. With DENK the first leader was a centrist-type but the 2nd leader is mask off and a typical hyper-conservative Muslim. It'd be necessary to prevent a reactionary backlash. They might call themselves the 'Democratic alliance Party', roll out an outdated meme to try and make them seem hip ("D.A.P me up, bruv!") and siphon youth and minority votes away from Labour, Lib Dems and Green parties, which is also coupled with left-normies suckered in by the party's attempt to hide its open secret. The Muslim party in the Netherlands and Turkish parties in Germany all have 'Democrat' or 'Democratic' in their names, but it's overt what their actual interests are.

I can already picture the media's reaction to the party getting a ton of seats in the GE despite not spending much, and will also fluff up the party as being representative of what the electorate want and doing marketing on their behalf. Maybe GBnews would point out that it's an overtly Muslim-centric party, but they're reluctant to throw eyes on certain truths at the moment being in bed with Farage and all.

Silver linings: It could potentially weaken every other mainstream party if Muslims just start voting as a bloc for it and Muslim MPs abandon the mainstream parties for this new one. If they're seen as an uncapturable voter base by the larger parties, they might stop catering to them thereafter (same reason why the Tories/Labour don't even try with the Scottish since the SNP exist). Alternatively it might actually piss people off even more to actually want them out (similar to how Southport/boat crossings caused Reform to skyrocket) and cause the mainstream parties to actually up the rhetoric.
 
I think if they formed such a party they'd do something similar to minority-aligned parties in Germany and the Netherlands: go all in on optics ad try not to appear what they actually are, at least to start with. With DENK the first leader was a centrist-type but the 2nd leader is mask off and a typical hyper-conservative Muslim.
I agree with this, but I believe the first optics-based leader is Starmer. The second one will be a muslim in a suit with a queens-english accent.
 
I'd like to hear about everyone's favourite classic Britbong dish.
I guess it's a cliche, but for me it's got to be a really good fish and chips. Usually go for cod (I remember when they said we were going to run out of those due to overfishing, what happened to that?), plus loads of salt and vinegar on the chips. Always say "loads" when they ask.


I will say that both Australia and New Zealand do solid fish and chips by the way, but it somehow feels a bit more... upmarket maybe? I don't want to say poncy, but I mean they might ask you if you want a garlic aoili with your chips, instead of something proper like gravy, mushy peas or curry sauce.
 
When multiple women have accused him of sex crimes, should he be performing - and in a supposedly 'woke' city like Brighton?
To this day people still shill the likes of Roman Polanski/David Bowie despite their indisputable predilections for sodomizing teenage girls, they tend to draw to the line at literal baby raping, but if your face/persona "fits" you really can get away with anything. Morality is a fluid thing.
 
That was a sad story, about the tree. They've arrested a 16 year old. Interesting to hear what the motives were for doing that, it took would've taken too much organisation to be a random attack on nature like that - apparently a mile walk from the road and a hefty chainsaw would've been required.

In this instance, the parents should be required to decide which of the child's hands should be removed as punishment. A live streamed amputation event on the site of the felled tree would be appropriate.
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The artists impression of them does nothing for their remaining credentials - they look like a ginger, gay e-harmony couple.

I think the one on the right sang in Simple Minds.
 
Current moral outrage are the irenigger rapsters, this belongs in here since moosick is polttickul and also Ulster is and forever will be bri'sih;
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly5r4gg7l6o/https://archive.is/eaCcV
To their fans, west Belfast rave-rap group Kneecap are a rowdy, subversive force of nature. But to many others, their inflammatory political messages make them dangerous and amoral.
Following in the footsteps of anti-establishment rap groups like NWA and Run The Jewels, the trio present themselves as dissident underdogs, giving a voice to the oppressed.
Their lyrics, delivered in a rapid-fire mix of English and Irish, cover everything from drug-fuelled parties to their desire to free Northern Ireland from British rule.
On stage and on film, they've created a riotous experience that's thrilled Glastonbury, won a Bafta award, and inspired what's been called an "Irish language revolution".
But their rising profile has resulted in increased scrutiny and anger about their political statements.
During an incendiary performance at the Coachella music festival in California earlier this month, they described Israel's military action in Gaza as a US-funded genocide. As a result, they've been called anti-Semitic and branded "terrorist sympathisers".
Now, footage from two previous gigs is being assessed by counter-terrorism police in the UK.
In one, the band allegedly call for the death of Conservative MPs. Another seems to show a band member shouting "up Hamas, up Hezbollah". Both groups are banned in the UK and it is a crime to express support for them.
Kneecap have responded with a statement, saying they "do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah".
They claimed that footage where they appeared to say "the only good Tory is a dead Tory" had been "taken out of all context", and apologised for the hurt caused to the families of murdered MPs Jo Cox and Sir David Amess.
But Cox's widower Brendan was unimpressed, calling their statement "only half an apology". Downing Street agreed, describing their words as "half-hearted" and "completely unacceptable".
The row was discussed in the House of Commons on Tuesday, with Shadow Home Secretary Chris Philp calling their comments "evil".
It isn't the band's first brush with controversy. If anything, controversy is in their DNA. But this time, the fallout threatens to engulf their career, with venues and festivals under pressure to cancel the band's gigs.
To understand how we got here, here's Kneecap's origin story.

The band have gained a cult following with their high-octane live shows
Kneecap were formed in 2017 by rappers Mo Chara (Liam Óg Ó hAnnaidh) and Móglaí Bap (Naoise Ó Cairealláin), alongside beatmaker DJ Próvaí (JJ Ó Dochartaigh).
Their career was sparked by an incident in which Móglaí and a friend were out spray-painting the day before a march in support of an Irish Language Act.
Móglaí had written "cearta" (rights) on a bus stop when police arrived. He fled but his friend was arrested, and spent a night in the cells after refusing to speak English to the police.
They documented the incident in the song C.E.A.R.T.A, which they released "just for the craic. No plans for after," Mo Chara told the Irish Times.
To their surprise, the song was playlisted by Irish broadcaster RTÉ, only to be removed after listeners complained about drug references in the lyrics.
After that, their output was sporadic. The mixtape 3CAG (slang for the drug MDMA) arrived in 2018, followed by the singles H.O.O.D and MAM - dedicated to Móglaí's mother, who had died by suicide.
Those early records showcased an ability to move between sharp satire, tender vulnerability and the experiences of Northern Ireland's "ceasefire babies" - the generation born around the Good Friday Agreement in 1998.
Talking to the BBC in 2023, the band said they were inspired by US bands like Dead Prez, NWA and Wu Tang Clan.
"Rebel music in Ireland has all the same sort of ideas as hip-hop in America. A community that's oppressed, using songs to revolt in some way," said Mo Chara.
Unusually, they perform most of their lyrics in Irish, reclaiming the language from rural folk music.
"The only way that Irish history and mythology was passed down was orally. I think that's why it's important for us to have that intertwined with our music," Móglaí Bap told Crack magazine last year.

Kneecap's biopic, directed by Rich Peppiatt (centre, in a bow tie), won the Bafta award for an outstanding debut by a British writer, director or producer in February
Kneecap's lyrics frequently contain Republican slang and slogans. Even their name is a reference to the IRA's chosen method of punishment for alleged drug dealers during the Troubles.
The messaging has landed them in hot water before. DJ Próvaí lost his job as a teacher in 2020 after his school was alerted to a video of a concert where he'd painted "Brits out" on his buttocks.
Two years later, the band made headlines in Belfast after commissioning a mural of a burning police vehicle with a slogan criticising Northern Ireland's pre-Good Friday police force, the RUC.
Designed to promote a festival appearance, it was criticised by politicians across the spectrum.
"Loathe to give the band more publicity," said Alliance leader Naomi Long, "but as a community we need to start asking ourselves what messages we're sending out about the kind of future we want."
The band have claimed their take on Republicanism is partially tongue-in-cheek - satirising the self-important sloganeering they grew up with.
"Republicanism is so vast, and on a spectrum," Móglaí Bap told the New York Times. "We like to toy with it. We like to take the irony on."
Certainly, the band's gleeful celebration of drug culture puts them at odds with the old guard of the movement - but the band are serious about their desire for a unified Ireland.
"The British government has failed us for 100 years," Mo Charra told Vulture last year. "It's not like this is a trial run. You've had enough time and it's failed."

Awards success​

Kneecap's reputation grew in 2024 with the release of a film, also called Kneecap, which presented a semi-fictional, and often hilarious, account of their rise to fame.
Starring the band as themselves, with Michael Fassbender as Móglaí's father, the movie won the audience award at the Sundance Film Festival, with critics praising its "punky defiance" and "unruly energy", and was nominated for six Baftas.
It was followed by their debut album, Fine Art, a concept record that threw fans into a hedonistic night out with the band at a fictional Belfast pub called The Rutz.
With songs that skewered the music industry and addressed Northern Ireland's mental health crisis, it showcased a band with more to say than their reputation suggested.
Still, in an era of sanitised, apolitical music, Kneecap's instincts for provocation and protest were inevitably going to draw attention.
Pro-Palestinian chants have featured in their gigs since the start of the latest Israel-Gaza war. But when they brought those messages to Coachella, they faced a new level of scrutiny and criticism.
Kneecap weren't the only people who uttered pro-Palestinian messages at the festival, but accusations of genocide and video screens that declared "F*** Israel" were seen by some as crossing a line into hate speech.
The organisers of Israel's Nova Music Festival, where more than 360 people were killed by Hamas in 2023, said Kneecap's message "deeply hurt" their community, and invited the band to visit an exhibition about the victims and survivors – "not to shame or silence but to connect".
Others took a more strident tone. A music industry group called The Creative Community For Peace, along with Sharon Osbourne, called on the US government to revoke the band's visas.

The band's manager defended their actions. Citing Hamas-run health ministry figures that more than 50,000 Palestinians had been killed since the start of the war, Daniel Lambert characterised criticism of the Coachella performance as "moral hysteria".
"If somebody's hurt by the truth, that's something for them to be hurt by," he told RTÉ1. "But it's really important to speak truth and thankfully, the lads are not afraid to do that.
"They have the bravery and the conviction, given where they've come from in a post-conflict society, to stand up for what's right, and [they] are willing to do that despite the fact that it may harm their career."
Right now, their career is under intense pressure.
Since Coachella, Kneecap have received death threats and have been dropped by their booking agents in the US, which could jeopardise their visas ahead of a forthcoming sold-out tour.
The discovery of the concert video in which the band shouted "the only good Tory is a dead Tory" and advised the audience to "kill your local MP" shocked the political establishment, with counter-terrorism police reviewing the footage.
In Scotland, First Minister John Swinney has called for the band to be dropped from Glasgow's TRNSMT festival, saying their comments had "crossed a line".
The Eden Project in Cornwall has cancelled their gig in July, and others, including Glastonbury, are under pressure to call off appearances.
Home Office minister Dan Jarvis said on Tuesday: "There is an ongoing live police investigation, so the government would urge the organisers at the Glastonbury Festival to think very carefully about who is invited to perform there later this year."
At the same time, the criticism has only increased the profile of an act who were essentially an underground act a month ago.
This week, Kneecap's album entered the iTunes chart in Italy, Brazil and Germany for the first time.
Choice snippets:
> The mixtape 3CAG (slang for the drug MDMA) arrived in 2018
> the band shouted "the only good Tory is a dead Tory" (based) and advised the audience to "kill your local MP" (redpilled)
> DJ Próvaí (lol, lmao even) lost his job as a teacher in 2020 after his school was alerted to a video of a concert where he'd painted "Brits out" on his buttocks (not gay)
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Tato faced softie clowns essentially, why is le beeb giving them free advertising?
 
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When multiple women have accused him of sex crimes, should he be performing - and in a supposedly 'woke' city like Brighton?
Because they were a bunch of BPD women lying about him. The case was pretty fucked up and really dodgy.

He puts on an amazing live show BTW and I recommend it to any Kiwi bros in that gay town.

Tato faced softie clowns essentially, why is le beeb giving them free advertising?
Because a producer will be sodomising at least one of them and the BBC also hate this country.
 
Tato faced softie clowns essentially, why is le beeb giving them free advertising?
Same reason they've been artificially pushed in the first place? One more propaganda tool telling their audience to rage against the machine by embracing most of what the machine wants.
 
Ainsley harriet because he's the campest, uncoolest, lack-of-rhytmist cotton-picker in the country.
you take back that badly spelled rhythm untruth.
I just said I thought there was some opportunity to spread some good news,
Let us know when you find any. The UK is fucking awful.
the Japs might be able to regrow teeth by 2030
Regrow? You know they consider snaggletooth to be cute? They'll be growing extra teeth for fashion like a bunch of sharks.
 
I mean... they look pretty? What's your issue lmao. They're from working class background, met in college etc. None of them are Muslim or pakis, all white, British.
I want you to know that I enjoy your posts on here and, even when I'm taking the piss out of you, your possible autism and idealised unicorn-fairy view of the world, I do think you're a good person.
INB4 she(?) ain't gunna fuck you bro.

I've seen much nicer looking working class birds than those three trollops. Council estates always have a few top-draw slags knocking about on them. Unfortunately, their looks are wasted by their penchant for half-nogs, full-wogs, or drug-dealing deadheads called McKenzie or Rylan. Dem bitches luv da danger, init.

TL;DR - Those three tarts are rough as toast and I wouldn't give em a push down a slide. I hope they win though.
 
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