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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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(Sorry for doubleposting)
close said:
Again, I might have misunderstood. Universal credit appears to be for poors only, while I thought that child tax credits were given to anyone with children as sort of an incentive to breed.
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Ironically, what you describe is called Child Benefit (explanation).
On the other hand, Child Tax Credit are for poor people with children. From Google, it seems they will be rolled into Universal Credit.

In terms of immigration, while the news will often repeat that immigrants cannot get universal credit, there are some conditions when they can, namely (source)
  • British or Irish citizenship
  • EU settled status
  • indefinite leave to remain (ILR)
  • refugee status or humanitarian protection
  • a visa under the Ukraine family scheme or the Homes for Ukraine scheme
You can get ILR if (source)
You must usually have lived and worked in the UK for 5 years. If you have a tier 1 visa, it can be 2 or 3 years. If you have an Innovator Founder or Global Talent visa, it can be 3 years.
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Overly Serious said:
And in a recent interview Liz Truss said that there are a list of laws that need to be repealed before a Prime Minister actually has the power to fix things. She said that if the elected representative of the people doesn't have the power to remove those actually running things (the Civil Servants) then you're not living in a democracy. And that she didn't have that power as PM.
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I have watched some podcasts she went on while promoting her book and did a bit of research myself.
This seems the sort of thing that she had issues with. Idk if OBR is "Civil Servant" or not, but they are government related:
they count the economic impact of migration as (edit - forgot to link the OBR source, copied the text from there)
  • Total revenues for specific fees and charges that migrants pay to gain entry to the country amount to £4.1 billion per year
  • the general taxes migrants pay as workers, consumers, and residents once they enter the country. Due to new migrants being concentrated among those of prime working age, we estimate they have a slightly higher participation rate than the resident population. Beyond this, we assume new migrants have the same employment, consumption, and residential patterns as residents, and as such pay similar levels of wider taxation, so that their per capita contribution is close to the average UK adult
  • the welfare benefits for which migrants are eligible, which are limited for most migrants during at least their first five years in the country. The impact of new migrants on welfare spending over our five-year forecast is therefore very small
  • the public services they use in the UK. While migrants will consume public services such as education, healthcare, and transport, there is no direct link between the size of the population and the money allocated for departmental spending on public services
Research lab at Oxford University puts it more succinctly:
Office for Budget Responsibility forecasts typically find that higher net migration reduces government borrowing
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What Oxford does not consider, and neither does the budget office, is the fact that the second generation is actually a lot worse than the parents.
 
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I like yours best. But I do feel that an otter wearing ermine is kind of disturbing. Way to enforce the "don't mess with me" message!

@Soggy paper straw Good info. Also those assumptions of the OBR sound lunatic to me.

FedPostalService said:
How many will I get?
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Uncertain at this time. The recent ruling that trans women are not in fact women is forcing the government to redo its numbers.
 
The Gene Genie said:
The Twitterati say that Zoomer Historian has also apparently been removed from the party. I think Homeland is quite glad, all things considered, that Camus was banned from entry. It keeps the attention away from hiring a literal BNWO sissy faggot to be a party officer.
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Sorry for the late reply but speaking of the devil, there's an article about Camus being banned.

April 23, 2025

Britain bans French philosopher who conceptualized the 'great replacement' theory, from entering country​

By Eric Utter

The British government, led by the radically globalist Labour Party and far-left Prime Minister Keir Starmer, has banned 78-year-old French philosopher and author Renaud Camus from entering the country, alleging that his ‘controversial’ views on mass immigration are a threat to “the public good.”

In truth, Camus’ views are the only thing that could save Britain, which is being literally overtaken by a massive wave of Muslim immigration.

The government fears and despises Camus, as he was the originator of the term “The Great Replacement” to describe the belief that mass migration is leading to the demographic replacement of native British citizens, as well as Europeans in general-- and Americans and Canadians with European ancestry.

Camus had been slated to speak at a ‘nationalist’ event later this month, but that appearance has been cancelled after the UK Home Office denied his travel authorization, telling Camus his presence was “not considered to be conducive to the public good.” You know whose presence is actually not “conducive to the public good?” Keir Starmer’s for starters. And Sadiq Khan’s.

And Theresa May’s. And Boris Johnson’s. And Liz Truss’s. And…well, you get the idea.

Camus is the latest in a long line of folks the U.K. has banned-- or considered banning -- from entering its environs.
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The guy who runs fucking McVities says the chocolate digestive is supposed to be eaten chocolate side down. What the actual fuck, my mind is completely blown. Should we execute him for wrongthink, the chocolate absolutely 100% goes up top
 
Inquisitor_BadAss said:
The only thing this graphic tells me is if you get rid of the Somalis, Moroccans, Algerians, Iraqis, Afghans and Albanian's and our arrest rates would plummet.
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I don't understand why we can't revoke their ILR or even citizenship if they have it and send them back. Unless the ECHR is blocking every single case, it would certainly free up space in our prisons.

Inquisitor_BadAss said:
That's just it, they were actually marketing them around helping digestion hence the name.
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It's obvious when you say it like that.
 
isalaide said:
The main long term effects were to rocket house prices, since people now had two salaries to borrow on instead of one, and also to substantially expand the consumer credit burden on the UK population, since you can get credit even with 16 hours a week wages that you can't get at all with no job.
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And to make wages go down. Companies could offer wages below poverty level because they knew people could top it up with tax credits. So there was a general wage lowering effect that the bottom of the market, and also of course that means that the public purse, the taxpayer, was subsidising private industry, via them being able to save in wages.
Tax credits had a lot of really shit knock on effects
 
Otterly said:
And to make wages go down. Companies could offer wages below poverty level because they knew people could top it up with tax credits. So there was a general wage lowering effect that the bottom of the market, and also of course that means that the public purse, the taxpayer, was subsidising private industry, via them being able to save in wages.
Tax credits had a lot of really shit knock on effects
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Anecdote because I don't have an antidote.
Back in 2001 lads were saying they couldn't do overtime or they'd lose more in tax credits than they'd earn.
 
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