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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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The thing is, civil wars are entirely different, and you will be surprised by what an old woman could do in a position where she wants to fight. I do think this summer is going to be very interesting because the level of discontent is so high. Now Labour policies intend to fuck with kids and we are going to have one bumpy ride. They learnt nothing from Southport, and they overstepped their reach.
 
>IMPLYING said:
I can't help but note in one of your prior posts you used the Covid period as an example of why this country will remain shit, whilst simultaneously downplaying the significance of the Southport riots, why one demonstrated people will always be servile to the government but the other was just a fluke that meant nothing in the long run. That's an example of what I'm talking about, with how our state of mind will just naturally direct things to the worst possible conclusion and accept it, even in spite of contradictory evidence or viewpoints, embedding it as something that will just persist.
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To sum things up around COVID and South port very quickly. In the long run did Southport really achieve anything positive? Not really. It showed the "da norf" might have more of a spine then the south does since they actually had riots but how quickly did those burn out? Plus it was used as the vehicle to introduce a lot of laws and mandates to sentence people harder for petti crimes and a lot of the legislation around jailing people for tweets. We always had this but now people were seeing way harsher prison sentences then ever before. When it came to COVID did anyone ever really kick up that big of a fuss outside of small groups or on an individual level? Not really and things continued for over a year until the government eventually lifted the restriction. Nothing really came of Southport except harsher restrictions on speech and COVID is representative on how most people will react to such events of government mass tyranny.
>IMPLYING said:
Regarding how you feel about things, I already mentioned at the start that your surroundings can heavily affect it. Sun's never out, visits into town don't leave you with any hope on the demographic situation, your white neighbours don't exemplify your ideas you think your fellow natives ought to live up to, and the country just looks like shit in general. That's not even taking into considering your personal situation, which will just exemplify the misery if it matches the quality of what you see around you. I know that when my mood is in the shitter I tend to break down any positives I might have in my head or get presented with, either because that's what being pessimistic or miserable naturally does, or it's to justify what I'm feeling because otherwise I'm just a bitch and only bitches don't have a good reason to feel bad.
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So where I live is very bad, always has been but I get to travel around the country for work and other places I visit are not filling me with confidence either. We are on a very bad decline in all areas and it's getting harder and harder to ignore it and most people notice it but don't really have any ideas on how to fix it or motivation to do much about it. We know it's about to get worse once the new spring budget changes begin to fully kick in.

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When you let in this misery shit to begin with, it can affect your view of yourself, your view of others, how you think others perceive you in turn, and what'll come of the future (which is bargain bin psychology shit, I know) — Your brain will just accept every negative argument you raise and put up no fight in this state because in some respect, anger and sadness can actually motivate us. But it can also do the opposite. It's something that affects a lot of people, but I think it's rather insidious on those who care about politics and the like. You get that motivation from seeing the dire state of things, but you have nowhere to put that energy and motivation to actually affect change. Then when time has passed, you're just left with the initial emotions, nothing accomplished (because there's no way to achieve the things what you want alone) and it just intensifies over time. I think partially this contributes to a sense of resentment for your fellow countrymen, since you already recognise you can't fix problems of this scale alone, but don't see the same willingness in others, and as a result — going hand in hand that the shit cycle will last forever — conclude they don't at all feel the same frustration that you do and never will. Assuming it's widespread, I think the added awareness of our situation at all times thanks to technology alongside being very aware of how things have changed since even the mid-2000s, have made this feeling across society a lot worse over the years. Explains boomer indifference (consistent in lack of awareness) and why radicalisation seems more prevalent in younger people (who are more aware), energy and passion aside. And because it produces an actual reaction from you emotionally, it becomes a lot harder to push it away. You affirm it, become certain of it, because something that made you feel that bad can't be the result of a fluke. You'll justify it, reinforce it, argue such to others and when pushed back on, you'll continue clinging to it in spite of all reason. When you have emotional investment in a view or idea, it becomes a lot harder to let it go, even if it made you feel wholly negative.

I also think being aware of how bad things are, and not seeing the sentiment shared with others can push you into a state of feeling isolated, and that isolation helps to foster a sense of helplessness since you feel there's nothing you can personally do, which further grows into becoming hopelessness. It can push you into convincing yourself to do nothing at all to ease the sense of obligation you once felt to the country and its people, or coax some joy out of it by trying to imbibe it in others. You know from this thread you're not alone in desiring change, but this website pales in comparison to the millions of it and out there who feel the same as you but just out of reach.

We really are as a country driving on fumes (Labour currently have the lowest voter share mandate of any party in power since 2001, it's too expensive for many to even consider saving up, the budget is buckling under the weight of never ending migrant hordes, people are growing steadily pissed off between unanswered pleas to fix immigration and the economy, house prices are so high banks will rarely cover the mortgages of shitheaps) and so I think we're currently in the "worse" portion of "things are going to get worse before they get better" part of the saying. Change is carried on the backs of the determined, even if it's just in spirit, and it honestly doesn't take a lot of backs either to carry it along. If you, personally, don't reside in an area where such change doesn't look to arrive soon, maintain hope that it'll reach you eventually once it begins elsewhere first.
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I'm fairly negative on the UK and it's people but that's just being realistic on the situation we see our self in. We've proven to not have the same back bone as our mainland European cousins even when were in a worse situation then they are and the people who were meant to be a way out or at least a better solution have proven them selves to be nothing more then back stabbing snakes so were in for a disastrous local elections with what I guarantee to be a low turn out. . In short were just not going to see things getting better and the idea of it getting better in the future must be very far off as their is no sign of it in sight.

If you want to stick around and see it out then sure go ahead but my choice is to pick up my stuff and leave.
 
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We've proven to not have the same back bone as our mainland European cousins
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Are you retarded? Have you not seen what is going on in Spain, France, Germany, etc. or are you making the same mistake as Burgers by thinking if news isn't in English it didn't happen?

Whatever is happening here is not on a par with what is going on in France and Germany. The only difference is that the French will riot at the drop of a hat but they always achieve nothing when they do it (storming of the Bastille excluded.)
 
Everyone in France says that Germany and the UK are rising up, everyone in Germany says that France and the UK are rising up; everyone in the UK says Germany and France are rising up.

I just wanna know, what's the deal with airline food?
 
>IMPLYING said:
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Fucking bullshit, so I can't despise the rape of British children if I'm not a bong?

What if I send my money to a company/person that donates on my behalf?
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It just seem to be attracting Yank LARPers now
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If it helps I'm neither a clap nor am I pretending to be a bong. I hope my casual derision of your island is not entirely unwelcome.
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There are over a million British Kashmiris living in England
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What the fuck is a "British Kashmiri"? Either you're British or you're not. Forsake the old gods, browns.
 
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What the fuck is a "British Kashmiri"? Either you're British or you're not. Forsake the old gods, browns.
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Some of us might remember when Palestine was ran by commies and no muslims cared about them. "What about da baby muuuuuuuuuusssssslims in Kashmir" was the favourite topic of the browns.

It's also causing strife in the Labour party as Pakis being Pakis are up in arms about it and driving Indians (i.e. the browns with money) away.

If Kashmir is that great go and fucking live there.
 
@FedPostalService Basically, this is about the police now seemingly acting on school complaints to essentially scare parents into silence. Footage has emerged from numerous UK schools, "wanting to try on the hijab".

I was doing some chores, and the PoliticalJoe podcast popped up on my list. This piqued mt interest because there is now a rise in left groups rejecting labour of all ilk. Even PoliticalJoe is beginning to turn anti-migration, but they are really against Labour now. They are not even at the level of Owen Jones. It is really interesting now that both sides are rejecting them entirely.

So, in other news too there is a major one for Angela Rayner's Battlebus

There are 24 declared MPs in total, and if found guilty, they would need to surrender their seats. Along with other scandals, Labour has nearly lost its majority. In less than a year. If you add this on with the looming rebellion and Rayner, who would be the frontrunner, forced into shame.

Now, call this a schitzo theory, but I think the Conservatives have been looking for ammo to sink Rayner, and they hit the payload. She is going to get rinsed over the employment act with business leaders calling it insane. Because it was her scheme, along with Nandy's, they would take the hit. This gives the backbench rebellion a lot more ammo too, where they just uproot the entire cabinet.
 
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I recently stumbled upon this channel, and while I don't agree with everything they say, It's quite nice and interesting to hear different takes on the same topics, they sometimes clash, sometimes come to an agreement and they also have really interesting guests on there.
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Yeah I've watched a bit of that podcast. I recommend this guy on Youtube called Professor Tim Wilson. I get a lot of my news about the UK from him.

Actually he's made a few videos criticising the online safety act and about de-banking, the issue Null has been having. Apparently Farage was a victim of this as well. Might be of interest to you guys.
 
Reeves now wanting to pay a reward to those individuals that grass up tax avoiders. Avoidance is not illegal, evasion is.
Tax Avoidance is mainly done by, but not exclusively by, higher earners who buy into schemes promoted by taxation and accountancy companies.

Evasion is done by all earners, whether working cash in hand, self employed under declaring their earnings, etc., etc.

Why target avoidance rather than evasion?

 
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The British government, actually legislating over things that matter and potentially improving the situation as a result? I need to stop drinking. I'm hallucinating again.

Amin Yasister said:
Why target avoidance rather than evasion?
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Avoidance is documented and easy to track (as it's following the law and HMRC guidelines so you don't pay tax you don't actually owe); evasion is deliberately deceptive, what with it being illegal and all, so it's hard work. Any serious attempt at catching tax evasion is also very likely to catch party donors and senior government officials in the net. This would be bad.

I could rant for hours the revenue's pernicious and slimy constant campaign to soak up every penny they can from the public, no matter what their actual tax status. They unquestionably hold the belief that all the money you earn belongs to them and that they're just letting you hold some of it for a while.
 
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