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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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That's just because of the feature. Whenever shit goes down in Britain some Yanks pop in to gloat.
Invariably there's gleeful posts about how funny it is that little girls get raped, or murdered.

Also, went through London recently; first time in a while I had a real roam around the place. Am I crazy or are there just packs of men sat on the floor, literally everywhere? I feel like a lunatic upon noticing it, and no one else seems to see an issue with it. They're not begging, they're just sat in groups of 9-15ish people, staring at passers by. They're like human pigeons, what the hell?
 
They're like human pigeons, what the hell?
You see this a lot in poor countries, especially when they have a lot of single men who lack the intelligence to find something to occupy them. If they don't have jobs, they just gather in groups and wait for something to happen. It's especially prevalent in the middle east and africa, for obvious reasons.
 
Well Lord Miles has now officially left the UK and honestly I don't blame him

Today, I permanently left England. There are too many lgtv perverts, rocket scientists, chavs and stinky tech support workers. London is 33% English and some areas of the UK are 0%. Anglos are very depressed in England. You can only be British if you’re white. They say England is 70% white, but that’s based off the census, a lot of people don’t fill out the census, I don’t believe the census, it’s atleast 40% foreigner, none actual refugees! Even if they were refugees…who cares? Not my problem. Our government is either retarded or evil, probably both. People are poorer than ever. Ukrainian refugees are leaving because it feels unsafe. I honestly feel safer in Kabul when I’m there. Witnessed the aftermath of 2 murders in 2 days in Birmingham when I was younger. Stabbings are constant. Who are doing that? Clearly the colored and non Christian’s, but they’re trying to regulate knives, what retards. It’s evidently treason against the British people. There is a very real feeling that Islam will take over England and some very horrific things will happen in the next 20-40 years. Every group in England is lobbying for control apart from the English. If you speak against it, you go to prison. It is all revenge from browns for the British empire, I can promise you that. We all know who is funding this decline too. The new architecture in England is visual terrorism and the weather is awful. The trains costs a days wages and are never on time. The UK is not competitive in any way, who goes “yeah I’ll keep my startup in England!” Gov is out of touch with the international competition The high street is a money laundering scheme. Every shop is a vape shop, a phone repair shop, a kebab takeaway shop that only takes cash etc. they’re all laundering money from crimes and abusing gov grants. They’re all run by foreigners In university when I studied physics, I tried to join the British military twice but never got a response back (I wasn’t known back then and was exceptionally academic). As I’ve left, I’m no longer a tax resident and therefore legally don’t have to pay income tax. Why should I pay money to a gov that is working against me? The UK is a bad deal for anyone with any sense or options. I feel sorry for those stuck in England because they’ll experience war in the next 20 years. I travel the world for a living. If things carry on as it is, I guarantee war will happen. Women raped, men tortured, children groomed etc. Every group that isn’t us hates us. From my years of traveling, I can promise you that. They want to take over, take revenge, humiliate you and subjugate you. They hate your country, values, religion etc. It’s one of the few things I’m certain on in this life. If you don’t see this reality, you will pay for it with your bloodline in the near future. I pray to God that England reverses this suicide because Britain could have been something wonderful, we can bring back the empire if we wanted, let’s hope someday. My only hope is for a major economic disaster that’ll, through accelerationalism, will allow for dramatic instability, allowing for the British military, majority white, to perform a brutual coup and end the British parliament and force mass deportations. The other possibility is Germany or Ireland finding their balls again and doing something similar and, from their positive results, other countries following their example. This white / Christian destruction is happening all over Europe, non Europeans being helped in taking over. Why is this being lobbied for? Who’s funding it? Very obvious answers. These hostile powers need to be addressed swiftly and directly at the root. It’s certainly revenge for WW2 because Europe is one of the last great civilizations that is a threat to them. America is already subverted at the governmental level, although this process is slower due to constitutional rights to free speech and the right to guns.
 
You see this a lot in poor countries, especially when they have a lot of single men who lack the intelligence to find something to occupy them. If they don't have jobs, they just gather in groups and wait for something to happen. It's especially prevalent in the middle east and africa, for obvious reasons.

It's the same in Paris. Fucking horrible, so glad I moved away and miles from any large city.
 
Now to just double post and get real for a second. I do genuinely think "it's over" for the UK.

I decided to go outside, get a walk in and go to the gym and it is honestly shocking at just what a state my local area has become. I was the only white person in the whole town centre with seas upon seas of brown and black. The buildings are in a state of disrepair and likely would need to be knocked down for any form of development with just how bad they look and the ones that do have people in them are either international "convince stores", vape and/or phone shops and Turkish barbers. Even as I walked to where my gym was I was stared at by the rocket scientists as if I didn't belong there and honestly I didn't belong there because that isn't my town any more, it's theirs.

It really didn't help that after I was done and I walked home and I was back in the white areas that every white was either old, unfit or just plain dysgenic (usually a mix of the three) white trash that likely has no future other then claiming disability (or at least they did kek). It makes it really hard to defend whites when I have to defend that when they will never lift a finger to do anything more then drink, watch football and beat their wifes.

It felt at least where I am from that there is no coming back from this without some extreme methods which I feel that our politicians would never have the balls to do and even if we do solve all of this then what future do we have with the native stock when they've gotten as bad as they have? Defend it if you would like to but I'm gonna tap out.
 
14 paki MPs just on that letter. 10 more than reform has in total. Yet reform will change the country? Some say it's impossible that the pakis are in power behind the scenes, and laughable that a paki will be PM?
 
Now to just double post and get real for a second. I do genuinely think "it's over" for the UK.

I decided to go outside, get a walk in and go to the gym and it is honestly shocking at just what a state my local area has become. I was the only white person in the whole town centre with seas upon seas of brown and black. The buildings are in a state of disrepair and likely would need to be knocked down for any form of development with just how bad they look and the ones that do have people in them are either international "convince stores", vape and/or phone shops and Turkish barbers. Even as I walked to where my gym was I was stared at by the rocket scientists as if I didn't belong there and honestly I didn't belong there because that isn't my town any more, it's theirs.

It really didn't help that after I was done and I walked home and I was back in the white areas that every white was either old, unfit or just plain dysgenic (usually a mix of the three) white trash that likely has no future other then claiming disability (or at least they did kek). It makes it really hard to defend whites when I have to defend that when they will never lift a finger to do anything more then drink, watch football and beat their wifes.

It felt at least where I am from that there is no coming back from this without some extreme methods which I feel that our politicians would never have the balls to do and even if we do solve all of this then what future do we have with the native stock when they've gotten as bad as they have? Defend it if you would like to but I'm gonna tap out.
Well Lord Miles has now officially left the UK and honestly I don't blame him
I think how you feel about the future of your country is dependent on the places you're generally exposed to. Rundown shitholes with seas of brown faces tend not to inspire confidence, and I get that more than you know. (As an aside on the laundering thing: legitimately the only 'nice' food places I've noticed allow for card transactions, if there's no such option and it's being staffed by browns you're probably going to get served some actual shit, and I'm worried not just in a figurative sense.)

The surroundings you're most familiar with is also probably why Miles thought the census was a lie, since his personal experience might've led him to conclude such, but wouldn't it mean the opposite could potentially be true too? I mean, even if I resonated partially with what he said he's still so far removed from the average person (first class tickets on touchdown in England to go meet Andrew Tate by the way) that his observations are just preaching to the choir that is his primarily right-wing audience. His insistence on things being too far gone to save feels like he's justifying his own departure from the country rather than any meaningful or honest insight on the state of things. His primary experience with the nation being London and what he probably sees going to and from Heathrow airport likely led him to paint the entire country as such. And the only other city of note he has previously mentioned having any connection to is Birmingham.

If you're a nationalist (or wear the skin of one), you know how much of a contradiction it is to leave your country behind; the argument to justify any action that might contradict one of your central viewpoints has to be large enough to settle the conscience, and him deciding the country he loves is beyond saving and thus moving elsewhere to avoid paying taxes to the enemy is sufficient enough in his eyes. Although in Miles' case, were I to be unforgiving, he sees that he has to justify the move to his primarily right-wing audience since it's from them he gets supplemental income. When you need to use that level of intensely blackpilled rhetoric (there's a difference between realism and arguing things are actually worse than they appear) to present your reasoning to people, it naturally presents a few holes — professing to be a patriot who loves his country and its natives, saying only fighting can save it, but in the same breath remove yourself from the risk of any potential fighting (alongside mentioning he'll no longer be paying taxes which I think is more of a reason for his departure than he's willing to admit) will piss any nationalist off who isn't rich enough to run away. It's tone-deaf at best, and just bragging at worst.

Most perplexing were the countries he highlighted at the end as being the most likely to 'find their balls' again and inspire action in the UK. He pinned Germany, likely due to AFD's good showing and that alone (in contrast the most display of public discontent they've demonstrated aside from the election itself were the protests and riots in reaction to AFD being an option). Reform (aside from present misgivings with Farage) ran for the 1st time in 2024 and got the third highest vote share, losing only to the big 2 and having potential seat totals stymied by our FPTP system. This was before the Southport riots. Highlighting Ireland might've been because of of his tradcath LARP, the nation voting 'no' to the constitutional amendments to broaden the definition of family and motherhood, or even the 2023 Riot in Dublin as a result of 3 girls being stabbed by an migrant (sound familiar?). Ireland is particularly odd to highlight as we mirror one another if I have the right reasons in mind for Miles citing them. Brexit = comparable to constitution vote. 2023 Dublin riot = Southport Riots. But both of ours were larger in comparison. Him not extending the same prospect of hope to his own nation despite the same things happening elsewhere is odd, never mind that he no hope of his countrymen resorting to violence unless it's demonstrated elsewhere first.

Why do these types always profess their patriotism the loudest, emphasise the importance of whiteness, the brilliance of the country he was born in, but then undermine it all by saying there's no chance of the (white) population doing anything and doom is certain? The old-fashioned blackpilled at least say it's all going to end in civil war/violence, which is at least some prospect where they acknowledge a positive outcome is possible. This new form of vantablackpill is a suppository that's too suspiciously phallic for me to consider taking. What's particularly vexing about these types is that they can so easily uproot and leave because they had nothing tying them to the country anyway: no family (at least none they're in good standing or close with), no friends, no material or sentimental connection to the land. A part of me wonders if what he's demonstrating is just the same phenomena you see in literally every other immigrant, where a loud chest beating love for their home country is just to keep some semblance of identity as they melt into just being regarded as any other 'foreigner' in whatever country they make their home.

Or maybe Miles used those two because they were violent and nationalist once upon a time, (IRA bombing English civilians and Hitler being a sperg about Poland despite being handed Czechoslovakia for free) and violence is based (which he's not here to participate in), the IRA were based (bombing English civilians), Hitler was based (causing the war that lead us here and ended the empire), Miles is based (rich toff who makes money as a travel vlogger disguised as a journalist). He just limited his twitter btw, probably as a result of pushback to his frankly retarded statement. I should've got the other two tweets he made beneath his post too just for posterity — cest la vie. I think Miles' perspective is ultimately shallow. His hope lies in countries that demonstrated the same exact things we have, and the source of his own hopelessness is from his experiences in London as a rootless cosmopolitan whilst wilfully ignoring everything else. His Afghan visit after the during the Taliban takeover was a cool stunt, as was his visit after, but the 3rd attempt to visit was ultimately performative (The Times interview where he says he had 'accepted death' in 2021 but the subsequent visits in 2022 and 2023 really make me question the sincerity of how much he truly thought his life was in danger.) and meant to push book sales.

I didn't meant to type a lot out about Miles, sorry.

TLDR: Miles' entire experience with England is tied to what he sees in London and Heathrow airport. He's a young out of touch man who possesses more wealth and freedom than most people with nothing connecting him to the country beyond what it says on his passport, hence why despite being a 'nationalist' he'll gladly leave the country and its people behind (most of whom are stuck here and can't use the moral impetuous of 'paying taxes to the enemy' as just cause to leave), justifying the contradiction to his audience and possibly to himself by saying it's beyond entirely saving and without hope. His hope lies in Germany (AFD results =/= Reform results?) and Ireland (Constitution referendum =/= Brexit? 2023 Dublin riots =/= Southport Riots?) for some reason, ignoring that the reasons to feel hope in those two happened here also but with more extraordinary results, larger scale, or a more impressive first-time showing in voting. His rhetoric is a more intense form of usual blackpill shit, since it goes beyond violence being the only solution, since it argues there's no solution at all that white people can undertake and that the only hope for things to get better is when the browns attack us first within 20 years and only if there's a white majority military to coup — beside that, there's no chance, unless some other country does so first to 'show us the way', and apparently I'm the only one who thinks having so small a view of their country and the capabilities of its people does anything but show a love for it. I also think he's just being performative LARPer, tradcath travel vlogger he is, and despite living here until just today apparently, he's just acting like very other immigrant: inflating their own sense of cultural identity/pride to slow their melt into being nothing more than just another 'foreigner' to whatever country will take him in.

Potentially the gayest shit of the year (so far) below, possibly beyond-reddit — I can't emphasise that enough:


Regarding how you feel about things, I already mentioned at the start that your surroundings can heavily affect it. Sun's never out, visits into town don't leave you with any hope on the demographic situation, your white neighbours don't exemplify your ideas you think your fellow natives ought to live up to, and the country just looks like shit in general. That's not even taking into considering your personal situation, which will just exemplify the misery if it matches the quality of what you see around you. I know that when my mood is in the shitter I tend to break down any positives I might have in my head or get presented with, either because that's what being pessimistic or miserable naturally does, or it's to justify what I'm feeling because otherwise I'm just a bitch and only bitches don't have a good reason to feel bad.

I can't help but note in one of your prior posts you used the Covid period as an example of why this country will remain shit, whilst simultaneously downplaying the significance of the Southport riots, why one demonstrated people will always be servile to the government but the other was just a fluke that meant nothing in the long run. That's an example of what I'm talking about, with how our state of mind will just naturally direct things to the worst possible conclusion and accept it, even in spite of contradictory evidence or viewpoints, embedding it as something that will just persist.

I think because you live with the shit (neighbours), all that's nearby is shit (your local area), and all you see nowadays is shit (news), your thoughts become a self-sustained shit cycle that fosters the mindset that it's everywhere, and because no solution appears to be coming forward, that it'll last forever in turn. I've jumped back and forth on the position of the country's future often, switching between despair and hope (and the same goes for my personal situation too). I think what helped me with that is a combination of things, some are the arguments I've made in past posts, others are just my mindset I guess. Maybe I'm just autistic.

First, being aware of how your brain does this shit to begin with is a start, it'll at least help you in countering your perceived, dour state of reality and remembering you're not in a state of mind to measure things objectively as they are in the whole. Knowing this doesn't fix your mood but it can help you in trying to keep what's dragging you down out of mind.

When you let in this misery shit to begin with, it can affect your view of yourself, your view of others, how you think others perceive you in turn, and what'll come of the future (which is bargain bin psychology shit, I know) — Your brain will just accept every negative argument you raise and put up no fight in this state because in some respect, anger and sadness can actually motivate us. But it can also do the opposite. It's something that affects a lot of people, but I think it's rather insidious on those who care about politics and the like. You get that motivation from seeing the dire state of things, but you have nowhere to put that energy and motivation to actually affect change. Then when time has passed, you're just left with the initial emotions, nothing accomplished (because there's no way to achieve the things what you want alone) and it just intensifies over time. I think partially this contributes to a sense of resentment for your fellow countrymen, since you already recognise you can't fix problems of this scale alone, but don't see the same willingness in others, and as a result — going hand in hand that the shit cycle will last forever — conclude they don't at all feel the same frustration that you do and never will. Assuming it's widespread, I think the added awareness of our situation at all times thanks to technology alongside being very aware of how things have changed since even the mid-2000s, have made this feeling across society a lot worse over the years. Explains boomer indifference (consistent in lack of awareness) and why radicalisation seems more prevalent in younger people (who are more aware), energy and passion aside. And because it produces an actual reaction from you emotionally, it becomes a lot harder to push it away. You affirm it, become certain of it, because something that made you feel that bad can't be the result of a fluke. You'll justify it, reinforce it, argue such to others and when pushed back on, you'll continue clinging to it in spite of all reason. When you have emotional investment in a view or idea, it becomes a lot harder to let it go, even if it made you feel wholly negative.

I also think being aware of how bad things are, and not seeing the sentiment shared with others can push you into a state of feeling isolated, and that isolation helps to foster a sense of helplessness since you feel there's nothing you can personally do, which further grows into becoming hopelessness. It can push you into convincing yourself to do nothing at all to ease the sense of obligation you once felt to the country and its people, or coax some joy out of it by trying to imbibe it in others. You know from this thread you're not alone in desiring change, but this website pales in comparison to the millions of it and out there who feel the same as you but just out of reach.

We really are as a country driving on fumes (Labour currently have the lowest voter share mandate of any party in power since 2001, it's too expensive for many to even consider saving up, the budget is buckling under the weight of never ending migrant hordes, people are growing steadily pissed off between unanswered pleas to fix immigration and the economy, house prices are so high banks will rarely cover the mortgages of shitheaps) and so I think we're currently in the "worse" portion of "things are going to get worse before they get better" part of the saying. Change is carried on the backs of the determined, even if it's just in spirit, and it honestly doesn't take a lot of backs either to carry it along. If you, personally, don't reside in an area where such change doesn't look to arrive soon, maintain hope that it'll reach you eventually once it begins elsewhere first.

Gazzer is 'beating' his wife to toughen her up. In the inevitable 2030 race riots when our Nige finally breaks character and kicks Yusuf off the top of Big Ben's clocktower, and Muhammed tries to slash her face off during a home invasion, his blade will shatter against her hardened cheek — you'll see.

TLDR: Gay and autistic. Everyone (who follows politics closely) might just be a depressed because under a democracy you're one person out of many who share the supposed responsibility of managing society via voting but as things get worse and your individual contribution appears to not matter at all, your impatience and frustration continues to grow and your brain either gets depressed pushing you toward inaction and no longer caring as a coping mechanism, or encourages action which might be detrimental to you or others around you. It helps to remember you're not alone in experience the frustration, and to remember that your brain doesn't put up much of a fight against negativity (you need to do that yourself), and in a dour state will even try to actively dismantle and dissolve positivity (but being conscious of this can help mitigate that). We live in a tiny slice of history that may take years for us to see positive results or may even just be around the corner (Consider the man born in 1900 and how shit the next five decades looked), with the only bitter note to things becoming great for us is how many years were spent getting there. Patience is key, keep at least some measure of hope in your fellow man, have faith things can change for the better just as quick as they changed for the worst.
 
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You see this a lot in poor countries, especially when they have a lot of single men who lack the intelligence to find something to occupy them. If they don't have jobs, they just gather in groups and wait for something to happen. It's especially prevalent in the middle east and africa, for obvious reasons.
Just say non white countries. Its the most bizarre thing. They just stand around doing nothing. Our gutter trash at least talks, eats some sunflower seads and has a good time. these fuckers are like zombies waiting to be activated. The ability to just stand around doing nothing and not get bored is alien to the white man. He has to do something even if its not productive.
 
‘We lnow we keep over paying people to the tune of 8bil but we have to track all your banks’

Nothing will be done. They are going to crack down on the people getting the correct amounts while claiming otherwise, again
 
So, I hear the UK doesn't produce steel anymore? I'm sure that will not have any unintended consequences at all.
 
Kier rubbing his balls talking about conscription but letting steel manufacturing die out.

Wouldn't we need both the facilities and the skills if we have a war.
Britain is in no shape to fight a peer war, no offence to the actual under-supplied, under-manned soldiers themselves.

Our most recent nuclear missile test resulted in the missile plopping down into the ocean a few hundred metres from the launch sub after the engines failed. Our navy is a fraction of what it used to be and filled with weird lack of coordination between our air force and our ships. We are grossly undersupplied on tanks (which we have been sending to Ukraine to either be hidden at the back to avoid getting blown up, or not hiding and they've been blown up) and munitions. Kier Starmer's proposals to send our troops to Ukraine serve only one purpose and it's not military, it's political. It's the idea that when they are killed the USA will feel obliged to send its own boots on the ground.

Which under Trump is highly optimistic.
 
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