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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I just want to laugh at cows and call prince Harry a nigger, but I mustn't be allowed to do that because it would offend some histrionic, delusional, Guardian reader's delicate fucking sensibilities.

I hate this country so fucking much it's unreal.
 
>IMPLYING said:
By restricting the site's reach to those with a VPN or TOR,
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If you are in the UK you get a splash page telling you to download an app - because Tor has one - and put in a web address.

And majority uses phones anyway.

If you can’t download an app or paste a web url how were you even browsing the farms in the first place?
 
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Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
I suspect the banning of sites with seep in slowly cascading. I think they will go for X but it will have massive blowback.

To the screeching Guardian reader who is shrilling victory - NIGGER!
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Good luck with that. X is the most used news source on the planet and the majority of UK buissnesses have customer support and help routed through it at a minimum

Going after X would cripple a lot of things.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
Good luck with that. X is the most used news source on the planet and the majority of UK buissnesses have customer support and help routed through it at a minimum

Going after X would cripple a lot of things.
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Future vision of the UK Govt setting up their own X but with reasonable restrictions and duty of care and it's just a shitty fedi instance that gets instantly flooded with crap because they're all rubbish.
 
Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
Exactly that craven bitch Yvette is itching to but it is political and social suicide.
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And that’s before you even get to Musk doing apnything in response…

Picking a fight with the dude that probably controls your net and satalities as a side quest or feasablely could with his connections is a very bad idea. To put it nicely.

And that is only step 1.
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Future vision of the UK Govt setting up their own X but with reasonable restrictions and duty of care and it's just a shitty fedi instance that gets instantly flooded with crap because they're all rubbish.
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That’s exactly what will happen. The UK does not haove the stuff to pull it off because the Gov is still running old tech.

This is what happens if you rely on another country, the second you want to fuck with it it becomes impossible without you taking damage because you have not built yourself up.
 
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If I was living in the lead up to Soviet Union or North Korea I would attempt to escape before it got worse, that's how I feel right now.
 
the rat said:
Who do you think retard? I think you're taking him far too seriously with the whole "i fucking hate british people" shit. Like, I'm sure he doesn't like us but not to the extent where it's like "don't even come to my fucking website in fact how about i give your government your data? :)" level of disliking.
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Nah, I'm pretty sure he does hate us. The English invented Cheddar, after all.

Bog-standard Poster said:
We went from "lul, fuck the uk govt, they can't do shit to the farms" to "you need a vpn to access the farms", in about 1 hour.
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I think he's doing that for our own protection more than anything. The government can get ISPs to tell them what sites you're accessing on clearnet, even if the content itself is protected with TLS, so anyone accessing KF without some form of tunneling is painting a target on his back. I'm sure he'll re-assess this in a few months and loosen restrictions again, but it's generally a good idea to avoid accessing controversial sites on clearnet regardless.

I've finally figured out mullvad and wireguard (in a slightly convoluted way) so I'm quids in.

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Ofcom:
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I wanted to point out the similarity to him, but I think it might fall on deaf ears.
 
teriyakiburns said:
I think he's doing that for our own protection more than anything. The government can get ISPs to tell them what sites you're accessing on clearnet, even if the content itself is protected with TLS, so anyone accessing KF without some form of tunneling is painting a target on his back. I'm sure he'll re-assess this in a few months and loosen restrictions again, but it's generally a good idea to avoid accessing controversial sites on clearnet regardless.
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It was a tongue-in-cheek comment, not panic. I appreciate the response though.

Null should keep the restrictions. This whole thing with ofcom and the safety bill will be shit-canned the second the internet ad companies start losing money, and they will blame Starmer.

I believe it's why previous attempts to wall off the internet were stopped because of loss of revenue. I hope it chases everyone in the country onto a VPN and it results in SM being abandoned in droves.
Let's see ofcom tackle instagram. Please.
 
I've been using Mullvad since the DKF shenanigans, except when we were Tor only. I've still got the Tor browser for emergencies.

I chose Mullvad, because even if VPNs are banned, you can conduct business with them by merely sending your account number and cash, analogue style, and they'll add time on that account, without any other identifying information. I don't know if that'll make a difference, but I suppose we'll find out.

I doubt they'll be able to ban VPNs though, all businesses use them for people who work from home to connect to work websites, or anyone away from the office for any reason to check in, so it would cause business a huge amount of issues.
 
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I chose Mullvad, because even if VPNs are banned, you can conduct business with them by merely sending your account number and cash,
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Mullvad kicks ass. I've been using it for years now with no problems. For extra convenience, you can simply purchase a Mullvad VPN voucher off of amazon using your credit card, then plug in the scratch off code into your new account number. Amazon wont know where the code you bought is going to and Mullvad wont know who bought the code they received. Gives you a nice barrier between your identifiable payment info and your Mullvad account. But, for the seriously paranoid (might want to consider this, Bongs) you can now use XMR cryptocurrency for even more anonymity in payment.
 
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I wanted to point out the similarity to him, but I think it might fall on deaf ears.
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I came here to post it after I realised it in the other thread. I think he did implement the tor restriction to protect 'us', since regardless of whether the site implements restrictions for UK users after the fact, Ofcom are going to ask that he do as they say giving him a date for the official demand and then a deadline to carry out that demand.
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I don't know if he intends to comply or not, but he didn't to Cloudfare and he didn't to New Zealand so it's unlikely. Doesn't help Ofcom's chances that they're asking him to do more than simply take down content the cheeky fuckers want a full on risk assessment, which means they're too lazy to do it themselves or there's so many websites they sent these emails too that they simply don't have the manpower, so they're trying to conscript/scare site admins into doing the work for them. Why? Well, remember that the crossbow killer's entire motive was deduced as being Tate-inspired hyper-misogyny, all because the police saw he had Tate videos in his Youtube watch history? That tells me the websites that the authorities even factor in when it comes to investigating someone is a general sense is hilariously primitive. I'm sure they don't reveal everything in trying to deduce a motive, but it seems their internet investigations are heavily reliant on search histories, browser history, and Youtube watch history in doing so. It's all too reliant on retrospect.

My guess is that they just want to compile a shortlist of problematic websites to 'monitor' for illegal content and problematic users in the future since it's likely limited to the obvious stuff like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, TikTok, Instagram and so forth. They probably want names and accounts of users highlighted in the admin's risk assessment, then they'd likely request the IP addresses tied to said accounts, tossing out any that weren't from the UK (or if they wanted to be cunts, forward them to their respective foreign agencies). Then worse still, if you do comply and send a risk assessment and IPs, they might thank you and then ask for another one in six months or something. This plan will fall through if too many don't comply since I imagine the 'enforcement team' are just people who are supposed to do the job they tried assigning to the admins, either that or they'll do a literal 1:1 of the TV Licence and make their next email appear scarier since it's now from the 'enforcement team' whilst not actually taking any action beyond hoping the admin listens now. That does open up the avenue for you to lie and send whatever bullshit you want and claim it's legit, but again it might not be worth the effort. If they similarly copy the BBC when it comes to attempting enforcement, it might just result in some low paid, disinterest employee trawling the farms for anything they deem 'illegal' and either send takedown requests or use it as an excuse to get it banned across the ISPs. It deprives them of being of being able to identify problematic individuals though if someone is fedposting.
 
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