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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

think that the solution to every problem in life is to shoot it.

I'm reaching that point. I was talking yesterday with a friend who works in the civil service, and he said that there's lots of good people, but some bad ones that spoil the whole organisation. My thought was 'right then, I'll line all of them up, and go down, shooting them, and you say stop when we've got all the bad ones.'

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

At some point, we do have to accept that the country is in a bad state, and no amount of wishful thinking, gumption, pull yourself up, can do attitude, perseverance and discipline can change the reality that there are 5 jobs, and 10 people.

Be one of the 5 that gets the job, not one of the 5 that doesn't.
HMO and cheap digs are available all over the country, as are jobs. Relocating to scotland, wales, or some small town that is offering a decent paying job shouldn't be off of the table.

Yes, the country is in trouble, but that doesn't, or shouldn't, give people the excuse to give up. OTOH, if more people give up, the easier it is for industrious people to secure a high paying job, earn enough for a deposit for a house and you're sorted.

The only way you fail in the game, is if you play by the rules other people tell you to play by. An example; you can take out a bank loan to pay for a mortgage deposit. Often, a mortgage will be cheaper than renting. With this knowledge you can take a loan out knowing that by buying a house (loan repayment+ mortgage repayment) = <rental payment.
Who needs to wait five years to save? only suckers that are bad a maff.

 

[Snekposter]

Exactly and Starmer fails to realize what happens to people post-conscription, they love uprising.

Didn't the Irish finally manage to win their independence on account of all the battle-hardened WW1 vets they could call on?

 

[Mr Bunny]

Didn't the Irish finally manage to win their independence on account of all the battle-hardened WW1 vets they could call on?

I would argue the Irish "won" more due to the British being sick of war at that point after WW1. The Black & Tans, the British forces the Irish where mostly fighting, where WW1 vets.

Even then Britain threatened the Irish with total war at the peace talks.

 

[Snekposter]

Even then Britain threatened the Irish with total war at the peace talks.

God, that would have solved so many problems down the line...

Total Mick Death.

 

[Foltest]

I would argue the Irish "won" more due to the British being sick of war at that point after WW1. The Black & Tans, the British forces the Irish where mostly fighting, where WW1 vets.

Even then Britain threatened the Irish with total war at the peace talks.

Seeing as smug and cucked modern day Irish are today, UK won by washing their hands off Ireland.

 

[GratsTheat783]

I considered posting this in the articles section, but I think it's more suited to here: Starmer wants your kids to watch this new Netflix series.

Spoiler: PM backs campaign to show Adolscence in schools

Story by Faye Brown, political reporter
3 min read

Sir Keir Starmer has revealed he is watching Netflix's Adolescence with his family and supports a campaign for it to be shown in parliament and schools.

The drama, starring Stephen Graham, depicts the aftermath of the stabbing of a teenage girl - as a 13-year-old boy from her school is arrested for her murder.


Graham and co-writer Jack Thorne have said they want it to be a show that "causes discussion and makes change", after it was hailed by critics and topped Netflix's charts around the world.

Asked by Labour MP Anneliese Midgley if he backs the creators' calls for it to be aired in parliament and schools, Sir Keir said he does.

He told PMQs: "At home we are watching Adolescence. I've got a 16-year-old boy and a 14-year-old girl, and it's a very good drama to watch.

"This violence carried out by young men, influenced by what they see online, is a real problem.

"It's abhorrent, and we have to tackle it."

MPs want tougher action on online safety

Sir Keir's commitment came as Sky News learned around 25 Labour MPs who want tougher action on online safety have formed an informal group and are due to meet next week.

It could pressure the government to take more radical steps, after a private member's bill to raise the age of social media consent from 13 to 16 was watered down because ministers didn't support the measure.

The changes were criticised by Thorne in a recent interview with Sky News, accusing the government of being "frightened of big tech".

Johnathan Brash is among the MPs who backs showing Adolescence in parliament and schools, telling Sky News he found it "so powerful and distressing I immediately went upstairs and gave my son a hug".

The Labour MP for Hartlepool, whose son is eight, said elements of the show could be shown in primary school "with discretion" so children understand the dangers before they are using social media.

He said he will raise the issue with officials at the Department for Education to ensure Sir Keir's "extremely supportive" words are followed through on.

Mr Brash said the government must "protect children from an environment that is increasing hostile and dangerous".

It comes after Sky News revealed teenagers are regularly being served up "horrific" content on social media apps, including violent and sexually explicit material.

Government 'alert' to 'toxic influencers'

Speaking after PMQs, Sir Keir's spokesman called Adolescence "an incredibly powerful programme that shows the threat of young men carrying out violence from seeing things online".

"Insidious misogyny taking root will be tackled," he added, though he did not say how.

He also said the government is "alert to and taking on" issues raised by Sir Gareth Southgate, after the ex-England manager hit out at "manipulative and toxic influencers" who trick young men into thinking women are against them.

The Online Safety Act, which is being implemented this year, is intended to protect young people from illegal and harmful content with fines for platforms who break the rules coming in this summer.

However, MPs from across the political spectrum want further action to tackle the amount of time children spend on their smartphones.

The Tories want the government to force teachers to ban smartphones from schools, with shadow education secretary Laura Trott revealing she is so concerned she won't allow her children to have one until they are 16.

The government has resisted the measure, saying teachers already have the power to ban phone

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If you want to know, the series caused a stir because it directly name drops Andrew Tate as one of the reasons the boy kills a girl.
Showing it in schools would not work, kids who like Andrew Tate will take the piss out of it while the others wouldn't care.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Be one of the 5 that gets the job, not one of the 5 that doesn't

What if you're white?

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

I'm old now (29),

You're not.
At 30 I was laid off. it took a few years of basic work before I could get back into skilled work, I've been in that other field for over a decade now. When you're with the people that have accepted their lot in life it can seem impossible to get out. I once heard most people change careers 3 times in their life, it was probably bollocks but you'd be surprised how one career can give you an advantage in one completely different.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

If you want to know, the series caused a stir because it directly name drops Andrew Tate as one of the reasons the boy kills a girl.
Showing it in schools would not work, kids who like Andrew Tate will take the piss out of it while the others wouldn't care.

It also does this.

At 30 I was laid off. it took a few years of basic work before I could get back into skilled work, I've been in that other field for over a decade now. When you're with the people that have accepted their lot in life it can seem impossible to get out. I once heard most people change careers 3 times in their life, it was probably bollocks but you'd be surprised how one career can give you an advantage in one completely different.

I've already changed career from insurances sales (where I was a manager), got my degree, masters and PhD, and now I'm a research scientist. If I change again I'll end up as a submariner or something lol.

But no, doing sales I think actually gave me a lot of transferable skills. Lot of confidence, a real power to just bullshit through the back of my teeth and fly by the seat of my pants. Good stuff.

 

[A-Logato]

It also does this.
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The only time you see whitewashing on TV. There was also that PSA that came out a couple of weeks ago that had a young black girl being sexually harassed and cat called by young white boys until they were heroically stopped by a brown kid saying "mmmaaaaattttteeeee!"

 

[BongoMongo]

You're not.
At 30 I was laid off. it took a few years of basic work before I could get back into skilled work, I've been in that other field for over a decade now. When you're with the people that have accepted their lot in life it can seem impossible to get out. I once heard most people change careers 3 times in their life, it was probably bollocks but you'd be surprised how one career can give you an advantage in one completely different.

I was laid off at 28 from a "good" job. I went to university and got a HCPC related degree. I don't use it as working in the NHS broke me and I now work at an engineering firm. I started this job after getting sacked last year.

At the times the change was scary and unsettling but I'm beyond glad I faced up to it and did it even though copping out and going on sick was an option.

Plans change and life happens. We're not defined by the adversities we face, but by how we rise to meet the challenges we face.

 

[Otterly]

pelvic pelmets

Let she who never altered her blazer or skirt cast the first stone ….

but the downside is that the people who end up in power are the sort of people who think that the solution to every problem in life is to shoot it.

The thing is that the ‘shoot them all and get god sort them out’ mode, while not ideal for day to day, is about the only way you get through certain periods of history. We are in a real mess, and fannying around the e edges isn’t going to help. We need to roll our sleeves up and clean house.

Economically, this country is so far down the sewer that I can see blackpool beach and socially it is so torn apart that there is no longer a common English demos, let alone the more nebulous British one. We are atomised and isolated, surrounded by constant condemnation for merely existing.

I agree. It feels like the late seventies/early 80s yet far, far more bleak in many ways. We at least had community then. I lived through the miners strike and we had people helping each other, I don’t think you’d get that now. And the poverty and neglect is real - I went to school with kids who had one pair of wellies as shoes and who were never washed and as I grew up that stuff kind of vanished and now it’s coming back. It’s awful to see . The tales my parents tell me of how much poorer they were, and how much better community was then, are striking.

You take a bunch of disaffected people, make them fit, disciplined, and give them access to firearms; and then dump them en masse back into a broken society, you're going to end up with violent criminal gangs at best.

Or a revolution

I don't actually know if there is a real 'solution' to the current state of the UK.

There are a couple of them. Only one is peaceful.

However young people have been fundamentally sold a lie, that if they work hard, try hard, they get rewarded for it. That's not true. It's not been true for a while, and I think a lot of British people - in this thread as well - are deluded about it. People see £30K as a good wage. That's poverty at best; and most jobs don't pay that.

It’s been a lie for a long time. I worked hard, and I got myself to university, I have always worked, as a student I had a few part time jobs at once as well as 40hours a week class time. I have also worked hard. I have what people would consider to be a job that’s not easy to get. I work hard. I get paid peanuts compared to what my US peers get. I am certainly not in a position to retire early or gift my kids cars or houses.
And that’s someone with an education and who works and is has a ‘decent’ job. If you are just a school leaver at 16 what chance do you have?

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Has anyone used sites like 192.com or other electoral roll address finders ? I need to find an address for someone to file something in court. I have a full name, DOB and postcode area which matches up with the preview the directory enquiry sites give me. However I don't really feel like shelling out £15 unless it's going to give me a full and up to date address. Feels like this is the right website to ask.

 

[GratsTheat783]

It also does this.

I thought something like that as well. Since it's described as "anti-white", did they make him racist and the girl he stabbed non-white? As much as I dislike Andrew Tate, directly name-dropping him in the film as absolutely laughable. How long until we have a film directly name-drop Sargon of Akkad? Perhaps even name-drop Null and the Kiwi-Farms?

This reminds me of some pro-LGBT film that was shown in our school, I forget the name but the teacher was this gay black man who you could tell was gay just by the way he talked and looked and there's this girl that gets bullied because people think she's a lesbian and there's this closeted-homosexual who bullies other homosexuals and gets stopped from committing a stabbing by his mother. It had this really annoying "emotional ukulele" strum that would play after every "deep" scene.

 

[Special spoonie]

This is a fairly decent interview from Beth Rigby, she goes in on Liz Kendall that these PIP cuts are about fixing Reeves’ fuck ups towards the end.

Grumblings rising from a few the backbenchers publicly last couple of days. Some little posts, some in the commons & media. Will this rebellion actually happen, though? Probably not.



Edit:
Big Nige being ridiculous again. Who discovered that Nigel? Not the man with “dementia” who used to do all the work for you? Why yap if you won’t do anything anyway?

 

[Alpahrius Omegon]

Can't we just send all the little bastards to seven weeks of boot camp instead of the school summer holidays for a laugh anyway. They will come back thin and fit and motivated to not be conscripted, this is an all round win

Bad Lads Army ages like a fine wine every year.
The main problem is Capita and how fucked recruitment is. People act like basic training is like full metal jacket where you get screamed at all the time. Directing Staff do genuinely give a shit about the recruits under their care and unironically I think that the army can provide what a lot of lads are missing in this day and age, self discipline and camaraderie. They might only do four years but it can set them in good stead for the rest of their life.

 

[Coolio55]

Didn't the Irish finally manage to win their independence on account of all the battle-hardened WW1 vets they could call on?

I would argue the Irish "won" more due to the British being sick of war at that point after WW1. The Black & Tans, the British forces the Irish where mostly fighting, where WW1 vets.

Even then Britain threatened the Irish with total war at the peace talks.

The entire thing was a farce. The IRA was funded by the US. What did you think was going to happen?

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

That moron Lammy continues to be awful at his job.

https://archive.ph/F3XXR

David Lammy retreated from his comments that Israel broke international law by stopping aid from reaching Gaza, after UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer appeared to rebuke his foreign secretary.
Lammy twice told the House of Commons on Monday categorically that Israel’s blockage of aid flows to Gaza for more than two weeks are in breach of international law, only for Starmer’s spokesman on Tuesday to tell reporters that the UK government position remained only that there is a “clear risk” of Israel breaking the law. Later Tuesday, Lammy told Bloomberg that he “could have been clearer” in the chamber, when asked if he regretted making the statement.
“Ultimately of course these are matters for the courts to determine but it’s difficult to see how denying humanitarian assistance to a civilian population can be compatible with international humanitarian law,” Lammy said in an interview. He described the blockade of aid as “unacceptable” and said assistance needs to be allowed to flow.
Lammy’s comments to the Commons preceded Israel’s deadly bombardment of Gaza overnight, shattering its ceasefire with Hamas, which said more than 400 people had been killed. Britain’s foreign secretary told Bloomberg on Tuesday that the cessation of hostilities was always a “fragile deal” but that “a return to full-scale fighting is in no one’s interest.”

“The reported civilian casualties resulting from last night’s strikes are appalling,” Lammy said. “We continue to condemn Hamas of course and believe in Israel’s right to security, but all parties must re-engage with negotiations to get the remaining hostages out, we do need to continue to surge aid into Gaza and a secure and permanent end to this conflict is the only way out.”

Israel said it carried out the airstrikes because of Hamas’ refusal to release the remaining hostages taken during the October 2023 attacks. Hamas, designated a terrorist organization by the US and many other countries, has repeatedly accused Israel of failing to meet its commitments under the truce brokered by Qatar, Egypt and the US in January, including through the aid stoppage.
Lammy last year chose to suspend some 30 of the UK’s 350-odd export licenses to Israel, covering components used in F-16 fighter aircraft, helicopters, drones and naval systems, as well as items that facilitate ground targeting after concluding that there was a clear risk that they might be used to commit or facilitate a serious violation of international humanitarian law. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office responded at the time by calling the UK decision “shameful.”

"Israel broke international law!"
Day or so later.
"Clearly what I meant to say was they were at risk of breaking international law."

Worse than useless. You could ensure David Lammy's job would achieve more success by leaving the post vacant than having him in it.

 

[pot of sneed]

The entire thing was a farce. The IRA was funded by the US. What did you think was going to happen?

Good point. That reminds me, America sure stopped thinking terrorism was so cute and funny when the Boston marathon bombing happened.