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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[-Jack-]

Well since they've passed an assisted dying bill, we don't need a functioning health care system anymore, just off yourselves when you get the tiniest papercut.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Dunno about you frendo but I am not my usual chipper self today and optimism isn't coming easy. The last few years have turned majority of the electorate into absolute gigatards.

Then take heart in the fact that the last ~15 years of Yookay government has taught us that the electorate has no power or influence whatsoever.

yaaaaaay.

 

[BongoMongo]

Then take heart in the fact that the last ~15 years of Yookay government has taught us that the electorate has no power or influence whatsoever.

yaaaaaay.

I mean that's one way of looking at it, and optimism in a manner of speaking, and better than I can muster just now, so thank you. <3

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I think the abolishment of NHS England could be a good thing. I don't need a GP to tell me to go see a Dr to tell me I need to see a specialist to tell me I have the wrong specialist who then informs me I need physiotherapy.

Really the easy fix is stop people having to come in for easily treatable shit.

If anything with AI all the issues of the boaties can be fixed in 5 seconds. Just get it to translate then pescribe them meds. Done. All from the phone which for some reason they all have and know how to use…

 

[teriyakiburns]

Well since they've passed an assisted dying bill, we don't need a functioning health care system anymore, just off yourselves when you get the tiniest papercut.

Not passed yet. Still in committee, where they've just dropped the requirement for a high court judge to sign off before the NHS can epstein you. It has to go through a report to the Commons, where it will be debated and amendments proposed, and then a third reading, before going off to the Lords for a repeat of the whole process. I suspect, though I can't be certain, that it won't survive these last two steps. The current state of the bill is radically different to the form it had when it was initially voted through and enough MPs have got their blood up that there's not much chance Starmer will be able to whip them into compliance this time. Even if it does get past, it still has to make it through the Lords.

 

[Kane Lives]

Not passed yet. Still in committee, where they've just dropped the requirement for a high court judge to sign off before the NHS can epstein you. It has to go through a report to the Commons, where it will be debated and amendments proposed, and then a third reading, before going off to the Lords for a repeat of the whole process. I suspect, though I can't be certain, that it won't survive these last two steps. The current state of the bill is radically different to the form it had when it was initially voted through and enough MPs have got their blood up that there's not much chance Starmer will be able to whip them into compliance this time. Even if it does get past, it still has to make it through the Lords.

The Lords can only delay, no? Or send it back to the Commons to be redebated.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Even if it does get past, it still has to make it through the Lords.

Getting old people to sign off on a bill that will let you kill them is indeed doomed to fail.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The Lords can only delay, no? Or send it back to the Commons to be redebated.

It can delay for up to a year, which would pretty much kill a bill like this.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Getting old people to sign off on a bill that will let you kill them is indeed doomed to fail.

There's not a single person in the Lords at risk of being subject to this bill without their consent. The poor and powerless are who it will give the government the right to cull.

 

[Amin Yasister]

I dislike the tories as much as labour but at least I felt I could get a straight answer from my former Tory MP. With labour there's the party line and God help you if you challenge it.

Agree totally. Thank God my Tory MP got voted back in, as she has always answered my questions to her (not always with the reply I had hoped).
Fuck knows what a Labour MP 's answers to them would have been - I would probably have received a knock on my door...

 

[6MillionCoofs]

There's not a single person in the Lords at risk of being subject to this bill without their consent.

You can’t consent when your mind goes. All the power in the world never stops that.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Some Letby news.

A police investigation at the hospital where nurse Lucy Letby murdered seven babies and attempted to kill seven others has been expanded to consider whether there was evidence of gross negligence manslaughter.

Cheshire Police said it opened a corporate manslaughter investigation at the Countess of Chester Hospital in October 2023.

He also said his force was continuing to investigate the deaths and non-fatal collapses of babies at both the Countess of Chester Hospital and the Liverpool Women's Hospital between 2012 and 2016.

Letby, originally from Hereford, is serving 15 whole-life sentences for attacking babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital's neonatal unit between June 2015 and June 2016.

If letby was the big bad baby murderer, why is the force investigating deaths 3 years before she started working there?
Something is rotten at these hospitals and I'll be pound to pennies that these cases are not isolated.

 

[Big Judge Cock]

So my children are being shuffled off to Pakis or similar for dental treatment as they are NHS patients, about which of course I'm going to kick off. Has anyone else seen this going on? Also I was assigned to a random asian person for a harrowing hygienist session which I don't intend to repeat, and I certainly don't intend to put my children through that.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

So a couple of things well one major;

Jonathon Hall KC returns to felt Starmer;

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/terror-watchdog-rejects-demands-to-change-terrorism-definition-after-southport-murders-over-fears-of-restricting-freedom-of-expression/ar-AA1ANHHm?ocid=CALHeader

Outright says no to Starmer directly and says it will pack the system of nebulous cases. There appears someone on the inside who hates Starmer just as much as us. Apparently, Starmer is furious and I believe so, remember when Beth Rigby called him out? She thought he was going to hit her.

As for the assisted dying bill, that shit is not passing. A judge not signing off means people signing off on it can be liable if it is investigated. The whole reason why you have a judge sign off on it is to avoid that very point. No doctor worth their salt would ever agree to carry out it. Bill is dead in the water.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Has anyone else seen this going on?

Have you not been paying attention to the fact they are the majority of NHS staff since before people even started moaning about them to this degree?

Been fucked for decades. Literal decades.

The reason you are seeing it now most likely is all the old white people are retiring.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

As for the assisted dying bill, that shit is not passing. A judge not signing off means people signing off on it can be liable if it is investigated. The whole reason why you have a judge sign off on it is to avoid that very point. No doctor worth their salt would ever agree to carry out it. Bill is dead in the water.

This is the same country that has previously ruled, and now has official guidelines to say, that it is okay to rape so long as you are sufficiently diverse.

The judiciary since this started has shown themselves to be either strongly influenced by, or in natural agreement with, pretty much anything Starmer has said.

It'll pass. You wouldn't want to be the far right racist who didn't vote with Beloved Leader would you?

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

There appears someone on the inside who hates Starmer just as much as us.

Same article

Hall has also warned that "disinformation" in the aftermath of the Southport murders - and has called on police to do more to squash "cover-up" claims in future.

While he is right to say that expanding the definition of terrorism he's also quite happy to support putting the jackboot further on people's throats in other ways.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Same article

While he is right to say that expanding the definition of terrorism he's also quite happy to support putting the jackboot further on people's throats in other ways.

He was talking about squashing those claims by getting the police to actually tell the truth.

Saying the police need to do more to quash cover up talk is not saying to jackboot you in this instance.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

He was talking about squashing those claims by getting the police to actual tell the truth.

Saying the police need to do more to quash cover up talk is not saying to jackboot you in this instance.

Where did he say that the police need to quash them by telling the truth? I know articles tend to always put their own spin on it but all the stuff around it is focused more on the stopping people talking and punishing claims of cover ups. He certainly has said more could be revealed but that seems less of a priority than stopping people talking. He was saying the truth would help stop that but he still seems to be all in on punishing people for speculating on the internet.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Where did he say that the police need to quash them by telling the truth?

From his report, where he very politely castigates the police for staying silent rather than simply releasing the facts as they stood:

1.22. Ultimately, the process of “declaring” involves a combination of
legal definition and a sense of proportion. But because of the real or
imagined possibility of the police using terrorism in a selective or political
way, these are decisions for which the police are ultimately accountable,
and they should be properly recorded at the time.
1.23. There is a separate and equally important consideration about
what can or cannot be said because of contempt of court.
1.24. In the digital era, if the police do not take the lead in providing
clear, accurate and sober details about an attack like Southport, others
will. Social media is a source of news for many people23 and near-
silence in the face of horrific events of major public interest is no longer
an option.
1.25. Following Southport, the disinformation generated on social
media, combined with widespread allegations of a ‘cover-up’, risked far
more prejudice to any trial than the placement of undisputed facts about
the attacker in the public domain. Whether or not the Contempt of Court
Act 1981 needs reform, the nature of prejudice in the digital age needs
to be understood.