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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[GratsTheat783]

A large number of people in response to this will start fly tipping. When the bins resume they will not be cleaning that up, just their BAU stuff. It's going to get deeply unpleasant.

Josh said in one of his livestreams that when trash stops getting picked up off the street, that's a sign you should get out while you can.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Josh said in one of his livestreams that when trash stops getting picked up off the street, that's a sign you should get out while you can.

This is literally part of the setup for Joker. life imitates art (Though the stabbings precede the garbage strike this time.)

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

A large number of people in response to this will start fly tipping.

It's birmingham, how can they tell what is fly tipping and what is the shithole that is birmingham? Just bulldoze the whole city into the sea and have done.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Josh said in one of his livestreams that when trash stops getting picked up off the street, that's a sign you should get out while you can.

Wise advice, though this is not the street cleaners but rather the regular collection of waste from people's bins. Very similar.

It's birmingham, how can they tell what is fly tipping and what is the shithole that is birmingham? Just bulldoze the whole city into the sea and have done.

Lots of people fly tip just out of basic laziness or an attitude of, "not my problem." When you have nowhere at home to put the rubbish and no sign that the waste will be emptied from the bin any time soon then desperation will become a motivator that makes a lot more people do that who normally would not.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Josh said in one of his livestreams that when trash stops getting picked up off the street, that's a sign you should get out while you can.

He's right, but wrong at the same time. He's talking about the collapse of services due to a general breakdown of social norms, which has no obvious end other than some form of total collapse and revolution. Strikes don't fit into that. The strikes in 79 saw rubbish pilling up for weeks, but it was resolved eventually.

It's birmingham, how can they tell what is fly tipping and what is the shithole that is birmingham? Just bulldoze the whole city into the sea and have done.

They did that for the commonwealth games. Didn't work.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Lots of people fly tip just out of basic laziness or an attitude of, "not my problem." When you have nowhere at home to put the rubbish and no sign that the waste will be emptied from the bin any time soon then desperation will become a motivator that makes a lot more people do that who normally would not.

I wouldn't say it's laziness. The council tips have been closed left, right and centre, all over the country. The ones that have remained open have retarded environmental policies, far beyond "put garden waste in this skip and wood in this skip".
The last time I went to a tip, I could only take 10 breeze blocks a day and I was only allowed 2 drop offs a month. What is one to do with waste when a skip was £170 - which I would have paid if not for the council banning me from putting it on my front garden without a permit and banning it from being on the road due to obstruction of vehicles (it's no larger than my car) or on the footpath for obstruction of people.

At some point, when you've tried the legal avenues, you say "fuck it". Wang it all in a van and drop it near a building site.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

At some point, when you've tried the legal avenues, you say "fuck it". Wang it all in a van and drop it near a building site.

Well, as you yourself pointed out, you did not try all legal avenues. You did not get a permit. Meaning it was in fact laziness. This is what it always comes down to.

There is an easy solution though. Just don’t be White. They will ignore you breaking the rules then.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Well, as you yourself pointed out, you did not try all legal avenues. You did not get a permit. Meaning it was in fact laziness. This is what it always comes down to.

The permit took 6-8 weeks to obtain and the skip location was subject to an inspection, plus they wanted to know what waste I was throwing away in quantities of Kg.
You can keep your moralfagging for someone else, i'm not jumping through ridiculous hoops to dispose of material that could go to a skip, be ground down and recycled, when the council make it as hard as possible to do so and stop the recycling of material because of muh environment.

Laziness would have been fly-tipping it without going to a tip.

 

[Turquoise]

Detritus on the streets of London
Garbage on the streets of Birmingham
I wonder to myself
"Could Britain ever be clean again?"

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Guys I am getting a tingling sensation, my happening sense is tingling;

Here is what is unfolding;

• A KC calls out Southport as a cover-up and calls Starmer inept.
• There is a leaker in the home office leaking bills and policies to international media outlets and they are picking it up days in advance but here is the thing because of the nature of what is being leaked it cannot be the home office but the cabinet itself due to detail.
• Starmer is withdrawing the welfare cuts, for now, I think his meeting in 10 Downing Street did not go to plan.
• The cabinet is scrambling trying to figure out who the leaker meaning it is probably from the inside.
• A 20%-30% faction of Labour MPs are making their discontent known. How do we know this the reports said 80 but said up to 100 meaning they essentially told on themselves.
• UK businesses are starting to cave in, and Poundland is most likely going into administration.
• 35% slashed jobs in the NHS and 15% in the Department of Health. Unions are pissed.
• A letter was sent out to civil servants from Starmer saying what a good job they were doing a great job but "tough choices are coming" aka cuts.
• Councils are going bankrupt and staff are going on strike.
• Twitter, Facebook Reddit, and sites like this are being used to voice their dissent and it is starting to piss off the Government because other powers will call them out.

The last point is over a few months, but the previous points are in the last days. Also stopping people from talking in pubs will make it work, historically this is the worst thing to do, for fucks sake you have political researchers ask them to research the results.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

• A KC calls out Southport as a cover-up and calls Starmer inept.

Which KC, current or former? Because any sitting one doing that and keeping their job seems unlikely,

• There is a leaker in the home office leaking bills and policies to international media outlets and they are picking it up days in advance but here is the thing because of the nature of what is being leaked it cannot be the home office but the cabinet itself due to detail.

Normal in all governments. In times of crisis, "let's brief against one another," was a running joke for what the cabinets do because they cannot stop themselves from backstabbing when things are bad

• Starmer is withdrawing the welfare cuts, for now, I think his meeting in 10 Downing Street did not go to plan.

Is he? Because looking up his name all the news articles nothing seems to be indicating a U-turn

• UK businesses are starting to cave in, and Poundland is most likely going into administration.

https://archive.ph/5DkzY

• 35% slashed jobs in the NHS and 15% in the Department of Health. Unions are pissed.

https://archive.ph/n2lPP not an exact match but close

• A letter was sent out to civil servants from Starmer saying what a good job they were doing a great job but "tough choices are coming" aka cuts.

Saw that one.

https://archive.ph/lQWpZ

He's also continuing to sprout Tony's line about replacing them with AI.

https://archive.ph/Hnojk

 

[teriyakiburns]

He's also continuing to sprout Tony's line about replacing them with AI.

This is the most horrifying idea. Civil servants may be bad, but they can at least be reasoned with, and are capable of flexibility in the right circumstances; you can appeal to ego as a last resort. An automated system will be exponentially worse than the worst jumped up department sub-manager, because it will have no latitude. The rules will be followed to the letter. Go away and die now.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

The rules will be followed to the letter

And be written by people who hate us

 

[isalaide]

No one tell Elon that the guy he wants to give all this money to to lead the Reform Party sent Southampton into bankruptcy. Let's let him find out for himself how good Rupert Lowe is with other people's money.

 

[John Shedletsky]

So, uh, how are you britbongs doing?

 

[Gregis]

At some point, when you've tried the legal avenues, you say "fuck it". Wang it all in a van and drop it near a building site.

Anarcho-tyranny. I don't want to get banned for one word response, so I guess I'll add that I despise the british. Cheerio!

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

No one tell Elon that the guy he wants to give all this money to to lead the Reform Party sent Southampton into bankruptcy. Let's let him find out for himself how good Rupert Lowe is with other people's money.

To be fair, I'm more or less resigned to here now being a third world "If the United Nations was made by Wish" LARPing as a state.

I just want this cunt out, and am at the point I really don't care who replaces him. I don't think there is a single politician in the house, Gaza stans and SNP included, who could do a worse job than the current cabinet.

 

[teriyakiburns]

No one tell Elon that the guy he wants to give all this money to to lead the Reform Party sent Southampton into bankruptcy. Let's let him find out for himself how good Rupert Lowe is with other people's money.

It was the Saints Trust wot did it. If you want to see who drove the club into bankruptcy, look at Mike Wilde. Forced Lowe out after Southampton was relegated, splashed mountains of cash on new players and restructured the club's finances to temporarily defray the costs, then buggered off when he couldn't get investment to cover the huge expenses he'd incurred. Lowe coming back as chairman for a single year couldn't fix that level of gross mismanagement.

 

[Cougar Pump]

It's birmingham, how can they tell what is fly tipping and what is the shithole that is birmingham? Just bulldoze the whole city into the sea and have done.

 

[Special spoonie]

So between 21-23 the NHS spent millions merging bodies like Health Education England into NHS England. With 1,000s of redundancies as a result . Now Starmer and Streeting are going to axe NHS England with 1,000s more job cuts. To avoid “duplication” with the Department of Health & Social care. Apparently this will bring in government control annd make it all better. If you look at the state of NHS Wales that is a complete lie. All these services are already overstretched and behind as it is.

This is all under the promise and slogans of “helping reduce wait times” like always. There has been a lot of drama behind the scenes because they tried to make Amanda Pritchard lead a transition team for her replacements they decided on. She announced she’s noped out and stepping down. They’ve now left her to deal with the job cuts lol. She’s handling it incredibly well. Not.

Whilst there’s, a lot of, specifically senior management waste of spaces. Doubtful they will be the ones to go, though. This is a load of fuckery waiting to happen. No real answers of how exactly this is going to work. It seems nothing more than yet another expensive government vanity project.
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