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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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@isalaide I didn’t know that, interesting, thanks!
I have an idea, a very bold and stupid one but... maybe the government could stop giving all our money to migrants and putting them up in swanky hotels? Then maybe there'd be enough for our actual citizens here. Madness, I know!
I agree, my personal solution for the disability benefits side of things would be only have them apply for either permanent, lifelong conditions or terminal ones like cancer patients and not for mental health issues like depression or anxiety.

It might be better if those people were instead put in another category, maybe universal credit but without any obligation to seek work and at the same time also be given priority to be seen by the appropriate mental health services so the government can help them back into work or education as soon as possible as letting them stay at home all day will probally just cause their mental health to get worse.
 
It might be better if those people were instead put in another category, maybe universal credit but without any obligation to seek work
That category already exists, it's know as having Limited Capability for Work/Limited Capability for Work Related Activities. Notably it's entirely separate from other stuff like PIP. It's entirely possible to have LCW but not PIP, and even vice versa.
 

That sounds fucking ominous.

Also this;


I love how the amount of Labour MPs is 404, it's just perfect. Starmer has caught wind of the rebellion on its way and is probably going to lay down the threats but I don't think it will work. His welfare proposal for Labour is political suicide because a ton of those Muslims happen to be on those benefits too. His grab for the Muslim vote will disappear and he is handing a win to the Tories immediately. Having 80 upwards is 20% which is a pretty large minority. Additionally, only 18 people supported the bill, to begin with, which is pretty piss poor support that is 4% of the party.

I have a feeling a lot of Labour MPs feel massively conned by Starmer, he led them down the Primrose path to ruin, a point where they are unelectable because every single 1 of their voting points was reneged. Historically Thatcher did something very similar and months later she was out. Starmer also fears huge unrest, he senses his Poll Tax moment is coming and on top of the clear unrest there is about immigration.

All in time for that lovely spring weather.
 
So nice to see that Farage is getting absolutely destroyed. That fucking traitor of a snake had it coming for decades.

I don't think it's something you can reliably predict.

And this is the correct response.

You cannot guess the future, you cannot predict the next moves. If it happens it happens, and if it does happen it will look obvious that it was going to happen with hindsight but not to people having to deal with it at the time.

But if I had to put my 2 cents on it, I would guess a blackout (as in electricity) could trigger. Any modern city about 48 hours without power away from complete chaos.


Oh shit we have a scheduled happening for later this month cool
 
Starmer also fears huge unrest, he senses his Poll Tax moment is coming and on top of the clear unrest there is about immigration.
I think you're overestimating the man. I don't think he 'senses', 'fears', 'feels' or 'believes' anything at all. He's a cricket wearing a person suit. There is nothing behind his eyes. Did you ever listen to him describe his homelife? He walks in, says hello to his kids, sits down at the table for dinner, asks them in sequence what they did that day, goes and does more work, sleeps.

I legit think he might be some sort of philosophical zombie.
 
I think you're overestimating the man. I don't think he 'senses', 'fears', 'feels' or 'believes' anything at all. He's a cricket wearing a person suit. There is nothing behind his eyes. Did you ever listen to him describe his homelife? He walks in, says hello to his kids, sits down at the table for dinner, asks them in sequence what they did that day, goes and does more work, sleeps.

I legit think he might be some sort of philosophical zombie.
I've a sneaky feeling he's a literal psychopath, who is just very practised at playing the part of a normal human.
 
That sounds fucking ominous.

Also this;
It's the draft, isn't it?

The government now controls everything. Eat the pod and live in the bugs or die for american jews via suicide drone in a boggy field because the MIC need more money from adolph putler.
 
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See I was thinking about the draft too he wants his Churchill moment. It will never come Churchill had endearing qualities and Starmer is frankly a psychopath. To do that and announce welfare destruction along with an influx of migrants who we know get 5* treatment is outright retarded. For a while though I think Starmer purposely stokes for riots to garner more control e.g. Southport.

Hearing him describe his life is the most psychopathic shit I have heard. He says "I don't dream.", "I don't have ambitions." The fuck, gratz Kier, Patrick Bateman is more affable than you.

It's really going to pot for them though, the Unions have said Rayner's 1.5 million homes plan is "lunacy" and "grossly under costed". Reeves has been just destroyed and is a joke, even the head of the Treasury refuses to talk to her. Starmer is a joke the EU leaders openly hate him and Trump mocks him openly. Streeting has a department full of nonces and he wants to kill 150,000 trees a year to put little pieces of card in cigarette packets to tell you it's bad. Cooper is a joke and is being mocked by the migration committee for leaking the stats and covering up Southport. Even Mark Rowley of the London Metropolitan is openly calling the government ineffective due to cuts and staffing. The military is even calling out Starmer and saying his plan is stupid and we do not have the capability.

The cabinet and their leader are laughing stocks and even the systems they are dependent on are turning on them, police, military, and unions. What is funnier is this year the migrant wave is set to be worse than the BoJo wave. It would be funnier if we were not subject to this madness but I honestly cannot see him lasting the year, oh and a fucking recession too.
 
I heard on the radio yesterday that they're clearing prisons to make room for rioters now that we're approaching spring. I guess they know they aren't popular. No, don't change your policies, just lock everyone up!
 
Honest to God I am thankful beyond words myself and his nibs are both ill enough (however we both work full time; neither one of us claims disability benefits. Go figure. We must be walking fucking miracles eh?) and old enough we wouldn't be called up.

Starmer is nothing like Churchill. Churchill was a gifted orator. He was intelligent. And above all he had the love of the people.

Starmer is fucking despised by even his own party.

I'd never given much thought about David Ickes beliefs about lizards in people suits but looking at that creature absolutely convinces me Icke is onto something.
 
I'd never given much thought about David Ickes beliefs about lizards in people suits but looking at that creature absolutely convinces me Icke is onto something.
Given his bizarre, stilted mode of speaking i legitimately wonder if he's had a stroke, or a TBI, or something else that stops whatever part of his brain controls emotion and inflection from coming through in his voice.
 
Given his bizarre, stilted mode of speaking i legitimately wonder if he's had a stroke, or a TBI, or something else that stops whatever part of his brain controls emotion and inflection from coming through in his voice.
I'm unironically convinced that Starmer is an Aspie, or whatever branch of autism they call it now.

Firstly, he seems to completely lack theory of mind as he has consistently shown that he is incapable of understanding how other people will perceive his statements and policies, nor is he able to predict how they will react to them no matter how obvious that may be. Just think about how reckless this administration has been in fucking over various portions of society, pensioners, farmers, the disabled, people on benefits, many of which are natural Labour supporters. Now if he was doing this with some sort of strategy to mitigate the fallout then I'd just put him down as evil, but the fact he's been stumbling from one victim group to another without considering how this makes his administration look just lends credance to him being a window licker.

He also seems to view the world in complete absolutes, black or white, with no in between. You see this a lot in how he justifies Labours supposed right to govern with such reckless abandon, despite only receiving around 30% of the vote, which always amounts to him merely stating that well they won and that's just how it works. Again there's an inability to grasp the nuances at play, as while yes Labour did technically win, the way in which they won makes their position tenuous and they should therefore be more cautious. But that's how a normal person would view things, an autistic retard just sees they got the bigger number and that means they can do whatever they want because that's what the rules say.

And finally as a wee anecdote, I have a relative that was diagnosed with Asperger's back when it was still medically recognised, and that completely flat, stilted cadence that Starmer has is identical to how he speaks. So much so that if wasn't for having a different accent you'd probably have a hard time telling them apart by speech alone. He also is a genuine psycopath that has no empathy for anyone, and would absolutely behave exactly like Starmer if he was in the same position.
 
The thing about unemployment benefits is,he amount you get if you've no children is insultingly, pitifully low. I have no debt and I struggled on it. There is a slew of non-cash benefits (free to you bus passes, funds towards clothing for interviews, energy vouchers via the energy redress scheme, so called social tariffs fo mobile and broadband bills) but these depend on 1. You knowing how to ask and present yourself 2. How nice your job center advisor is (I was lucky. Mine was an absolute treasure of a woman) and 3. In the case of social tariffs the staff at your mobile or broadband provider not being total wallopers.


The biggest issue with it though, in my experience,is that far,far too many people view an easy life on benefits as a birthright, and that these idle fuckers simply do not want to get a job.

By far and away the most depressing thing about the job center, for me, was the the poor woman who was assigned to me was so surprised I was actively looking for a job. That's fucking grim.

We've allowed a generation of bone idle bastards to spawn and we're reaping what we've sown.

Even if we deported every immigrant taking up a low skilled job tomorrow,we would be left with a significant number of shiftless fucks who do not want to work or contribute in any meaningful way.
 
Starmer also fears huge unrest, he senses his Poll Tax moment is coming
I’d prefer a Johan de Witt moment.
But if I had to put my 2 cents on it, I would guess a blackout (as in electricity) could trigger. Any modern city about 48 hours without power away from complete chaos.
I also think this. What would happen is not whites going out and rioting first though, it’d be widespread brown-based looting, rape and crime. It would be so obvious and damaging that it would make the most bovine of plebs realise something needs to be done.
I heard on the radio yesterday that they're clearing prisons to make room for rioters now that we're approaching spring. I guess they know they aren't popular. No, don't change your policies, just lock everyone up!
How much can they do this though? We going to release every criminal who DID something bad and replace the with people who SAID something starmer doesn’t like? (Yes we are!)
The black and white thinking is classic personality disorder prog stuff. You’re a goodie or a baddie and if you’re a baddie this week then anything we do to you is good, and everything we do is good, because we are the goodies. This is the leftist mind.
And even if starmer gets ousted, whomever replaces him will be just as bad. We need labour OUT. We need people to stand up for their rights and demand freedom if speech and expression and the law to be applied justly and consistently. We need the actual criminals locking up. And we need a lot of deportations.
 
By far and away the most depressing thing about the job center, for me, was the the poor woman who was assigned to me was so surprised I was actively looking for a job. That's fucking grim
I remember going to one as a teenager and them getting confused and telling me to go to the website if I was looking for a job.
 
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