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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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10 years for how many rapes? Absolutely disgusting, though not surprising given his connections. If London allow China to build their “mega-embassy” then we will truly be fucked, if not more.
Walk around Manchester and you'll see a ton of Chinese nationalists there. They've even got their own national bank and CCP headquarters set up and everything.

It's no surprise that this chink pretty much got away with it and that lets be honest here, he's not doing 10 years of this sentence. Chinas the only country that tolerates the UK because for what ever reason our politicians keep sucking up to it. Starmer does so, so much that if it comes out that he was a Chinese psy op then I wouldn't be at all surprised.
 
I hate being right again. I tell people Farage is just a grifter who turns every party he joins into a personal vanity project and they look at me like I'm stupid. "He's been consistent in his message for years", they always say, as if consistently saying the things that get him the most attention and money somehow makes him not a grifting egotist. He never wanted brexit. He never wanted Reform to be a viable party. He wanted to get into Parliament, make a few bombastic speeches, and collect another pension, just like he did with his UKIP grift at the europarl. He doesn't want change; he wants his ego tickled.
 
I hate being right again. I tell people Farage is just a grifter who turns every party he joins into a personal vanity project and they look at me like I'm stupid. "He's been consistent in his message for years", they always say, as if consistently saying the things that get him the most attention and money somehow makes him not a grifting egotist. He never wanted brexit. He never wanted Reform to be a viable party. He wanted to get into Parliament, make a few bombastic speeches, and collect another pension, just like he did with his UKIP grift at the europarl. He doesn't want change; he wants his ego tickled.
Being saying this for months, if not years now, I really dislike Nigel. Everything he's ever done is all about him and him alone and everything he's ever been attached to is just a personal cult of personality and Reforms been no different. From kicking out anyone who was slightly right wing or edgy to capitulating to foreigners (Populism for me but not for thee when ever he talks to Trump).

I was only just barely willing to vote for Reform since a vote for Ukip is a meme and every other party is far left but now I don't even want to vote Reform ever again after kicking Rupert Lowe and the way they've gone about it such as blocking his replies on Twitter when he's responded to the allegations and the fact that as soon as he was critical of Nigel, all these allegations come out about him and they give him the boot.

Reform is not going to win next election, polls are a meme and Nigel is the worst thing to happen to the right in English political history.
 
Being saying this for months, if not years now, I really dislike Nigel. Everything he's ever done is all about him and him alone and everything he's ever been attached to is just a personal cult of personality and Reforms been no different. From kicking out anyone who was slightly right wing or edgy to capitulating to foreigners (Populism for me but not for thee when ever he talks to Trump).

I was only just barely willing to vote for Reform since a vote for Ukip is a meme and every other party is far left but now I don't even want to vote Reform ever again after kicking Rupert Lowe and the way they've gone about it such as blocking his replies on Twitter when he's responded to the allegations and the fact that as soon as he was critical of Nigel, all these allegations come out about him and they give him the boot.

Reform is not going to win next election, polls are a meme and Nigel is the worst thing to happen to the right in English political history.
Unfortunately this is all true. If Reform were serious, they could have already completely demolished the current government, with the Southport situation, Keir Starmer gift scandal, rape gang scandal, poor budget, and many other issues to point at.

Also, apart from Rupert Lowe, the majority of the people involved with Reform are deluded incompetent boomers. Hopefully Lowe forms his own party with other like-minded politicians.
 
Unfortunately this is all true. If Reform were serious, they could have already completely demolished the current government, with the Southport situation, Keir Starmer gift scandal, rape gang scandal, poor budget, and many other issues to point at.

Also, apart from Rupert Lowe, the majority of the people involved with Reform are deluded incompetent boomers. Hopefully Lowe forms his own party with other like-minded politicians.
I've argued with many Reform MP's, mostly in real life and almost every time it's some boomer who some how thinks Reform is a centerist party and that they "have to play by the book". If you want to throw them into a tism then just ask them why they kicked out multiple members based on reports from the ADL, an openly left wing and admitted communist group.

TLDR I hope the next milkshake thrown at Farage has acid in it.
 
Pretty serious happening, all things considered. Lowe himself telling people not to leave Reform suggests this has a while to go yet - best case scenario, party reforms itself after realising they're making a big error.

Likely scenario, they close ranks and despair continues.
 
I actually feel somewhat optimistic. Maybe that's silly.

Rupert is not like all the others that Farage has kneecapped in the past. He is independently rich, he has a decent media profile (not at Farage's level, but better than most other backbench MPs), he is already an MP and could probably hold the seat as an independent or as a member of another party. There are no known skeletons in his closet - if there were, Reform would have hit him with that rather than the spurious nonsense Yusuf came out with. Rupert's not fading away and if Farage wants him as an enemy, then he won't be able to simply ignore him. He is in a much stronger position than e.g. Ben Habib was.

On top of that is the link to Musk. If Rupert founds a new party or joins an existing one, there is the possibility it will come with funding supplied, which would automatically put that party over the top of every other right-of-centre party in the UK. It wouldn't be a rehash of Andrew Bridgen joining Reclaim.

And the general picture in the country won't change. People who are fed up now aren't going to stop being fed up, or cowed into changing their minds. Things aren't going to get better between now and 2029, and Labour will carry that can. The Tories are not going to suddenly get their act together and attract back all the people who have turned to Reform - even if Badenoch is defenestrated at the first opportunity and Jenrick takes over, he will be hamstrung by exactly the same facts as Badenoch; the Tory talent pool is very shallow and over half the parliamentary party are wets. He's not as lazy as she is, but does he have the courage to play chicken with them and force them out before they force him out? I doubt it.

I think a Lowe-driven party, if it comes to pass, can attract more talent than Reform could, precisely because it won't have the problem of the party needing to be Nigel and friends. Some people talk about Jenrick and Braverman and others joining Reform - I don't think they ever would, because it would mean playing second banana to Farage and deferring to him on everything. Should they be encouraged to defect? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they are too tainted by their presence in the last government. But the point is that people with the ability to think and plan ahead (hopefully) wouldn't be stymied in a Lowe party the way they would in Reform, which would be a distinct advantage for any such party.

I do hope that, somehow, they can thrash it all out and that Farage finally accepts that if Reform want to be considered a serious party of government, it cannot be all about him. But if not, there's over 4 years to go and I am not resigned to the Uniparty staying on top, yet.
 
I found that Rupert Lowe thing pretty fishy when I first saw it, immediately suspended for "bullying" after he challenged Nigel Farage. If they kick Rupert out of the party, will they have to redo the elections in that area? Out of interest, why do a lot of you dislike Nigel? I've heard general sayings about him, but not much specific other than him being a grifter, being a banker and leaving UKIP then decrying it as racist. Do you agree with Labour's claim that he only wears the British flag to his own benefit?
 
Nigel is a snake and a self-flagellating ego-driven prick. He kills everything he touches because he is void of any ideals or moral compass. Lowe was correct and other commentators on YouTube like Lotus-eaters and independents have been saying this for a while, Rupert just said the quiet part.

Ask yourself this How can you be a party about changing the political and cultural establishment AND HAVE A FUCKING MUSLIM AS A CHAIRMAN. I feel this was something Rupert challenged and called lunatic and he was backstabbed because of it.

Farage does not want change and never does, he wants power and now that he is not in Trump's good books he knows that grift in the US is fucked. Reform was his second project and he is pissed that he is not regarded as Jesus. Since Brexit I have disliked this prick and he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. This fucker would be like Starmer and reneg EVERYTHING he promised.

I was going to say about the Civil unrest advisor because I think that shit is coming this year, Southport was merely an echo.

@GratsTheat783 One of the most remotely honest things Starmer has said. Yes, he was doing it for his benefit to sow seeds but he was correct.
 
Nigel is a snake and a self-flagellating ego-driven prick. He kills everything he touches because he is void of any ideals or moral compass. Lowe was correct and other commentators on YouTube like Lotus-eaters and independents have been saying this for a while, Rupert just said the quiet part.

Ask yourself this How can you be a party about changing the political and cultural establishment AND HAVE A FUCKING MUSLIM AS A CHAIRMAN. I feel this was something Rupert challenged and called lunatic and he was backstabbed because of it.

Farage does not want change and never does, he wants power and now that he is not in Trump's good books he knows that grift in the US is fucked. Reform was his second project and he is pissed that he is not regarded as Jesus. Since Brexit I have disliked this prick and he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. This fucker would be like Starmer and reneg EVERYTHING he promised.

I was going to say about the Civil unrest advisor because I think that shit is coming this year, Southport was merely an echo.

@GratsTheat783 One of the most remotely honest things Starmer has said. Yes, he was doing it for his benefit to sow seeds but he was correct.
How far does his history go back? He only seemed to come to relevance within the past 10 years and he disappeared for several years after Brexit before suddenly popping back up with GB News and Reform. Are there any specific examples of movements he's ruined?
 
How far does his history go back? He only seemed to come to relevance within the past 10 years and he disappeared for several years after Brexit before suddenly popping back up with GB News and Reform. Are there any specific examples of movements he's ruined?
He's been around since the 80's but wasn't really important until the 90's, most worthily when he got elected to European parliament in 99. He's also one of UKIP's founding members in 93 and got steadily more relevant off of the Euro sceptics and his spats with the BNP.
 
Nigger rigging a warhead to a jet is possible but it's hardly as proper deterrence.
These platforms I am referring to were specifically designed to drop nukes and the retrofit to remove the nuclear capability is literally a couple of wiring looms and pushing in a few circuit breakers.
This platform could be loaded with a nuclear warhead and ready to fly within six months, and we have the OG nuke bases ready to go back to being nuclear within that time as well.
 
Has anyone else noticed that fewer people obey speed limits in the last few years? I suspect that this is the visible end of people realising that laws only exist if they are enforced.

e: also I agree that no British-focused party can have a muslim involved at all.
 
Basically, @A-Logato said that once the referendum was being proposed, he popped his head up and started grifting hard. I think he has a current kill count of 2/3 parties. Reform is done after this, so many members are pissed, Reform members tend to be online and more aware. Reddit is pissed and it is sad because they are pretty chill guys but Farage is done.

Reform was the only answer to the UniParty and that is gone. They were a chance of political decorum and resolution without a civil war being the outcome and that is ruined. I think a civil war in this country will be horrific because it will be Muslims vs all others but it will be street fighting and firebombing. The main cities will become blood-bathed and damage to our cultural infrastructure will be irreparable.

I do not like thinking like this because I am optimistic usually but I am a realist, my career means I have to be. As for the speed limits, I noticed this too walking back from my shop I saw 20-odd people speeding in minutes. I think our police force is cooked btw. I know a few coppers who are decent and they said morale is in the gutter and they get asked to investigate the most inane shit. When anything serious comes along they do not have the numbers or expertise to investigate.
 
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