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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Patients facing two-day waits in A&E​

'Patients at Royal Liverpool University Hospital's accident and emergency unit are facing waits of up to 50 hours.
Liverpool University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust has declared a "critical incident" due to "exceptionally high demand" on services and urged people to only go to A&E in a genuine medical emergency.
The hospital said it was "extremely busy" amid a rising number of patients with flu and other respiratory conditions, prompting Liverpool Riverside Labour MP Kim Johnson to call on the government to immediately come up with a plan to increase NHS funding.
Critical incidents have also been declared in the East Midlands, Birmingham, Devon, Cornwall, Northamptonshire and Hampshire.'

I'm not even sure what I would use A+E for. Everything is either urgent enough to call 999/111 or you can just see a GP surely ? Luckily I am fortunate enough to afford private treatments so I don't really have to deal with A+E.

 

[The Gene Genie]

I gotta say, despire his geographical disability, I really do sympathize with Starmer. Having to deal with all these racist rightoids whinging about supposed "Pakistani Rape Gangs" when there's literally no evidence to support it is just as wild as Trump's whole "Haitians are eating cats in Ohio" senility.

Maybe one day the British will be able to hold themselves to some form of accountability instead of blaming all their problems on others.

Musk has now achieved exactly the opposite of what he set out to do. He's gone way overboard posting nonsense that is easily disproved and he has managed to rile the eternally grey and bland Starmer into actually displaying some passion and fire.

I'm not a huge Starmer fan but his record on the rape gangs as DPP was actually OK, he took positive steps such as pressing ahead with cases where the victims had previously been thought of as unreliable witnesses. Meanwhile the Conservative government of the time failed to implement any of the recommendations of the Jay review. The more sensible Conservatives know they failed the victims and are holding off from picking up the Musk pitchforks. It's only that twat Jenrick who is going in hard and he will end up looking like an even bigger twat at the end of it.

Weirdly I think this has actually improved Starmer's public image no end and will do so even more if Musk keeps up the bullshit claims.

Low effort. It didn’t even rile me up.

 

[bort420]

Why release this documentary now?

lol. lmao. u know exactly why

they are embarrassed they presided over it. encouraged it even. some participated in it. they are the paedo masters they said didn't exist and the best/worst part is that some of them were duped! How stupid they are, despite their Oxbridge degree.

Real emperor-has-no-clothes moment for them. Elon already knows he's a fool to them so it doesn't matter what they say.

@Chicken of the woods 4/10, u need more fakepost training, sport

 

[Wonderland foster child]

Also who's buying coffee from Gregg's?

Someone who has a gift voucher. Free coffee is best coffee.

 

[Allo Vera]

Patients facing two-day waits in A&E​

I'm not even sure what I would use A+E for. Everything is either urgent enough to call 999/111 or you can just see a GP surely ? Luckily I am fortunate enough to afford private treatments so I don't really have to deal with A+E.

You wouldn’t say that if you actually had experience of using the NHS.

111 is fucking useless and often ends in A&E anyway, so it’s by no means a way of avoiding A&E (apart from if they decide you’re worthy of an out of hours GP appointment - the least worst option).

999 is not much better. Horror story after horror story along the lines of “we have no ambulances and an old lady with a suspected broken hip isn’t a priority - you might be waiting for 8 hours”.

Getting a GP appointment is positively Kafkaesque at the best of times. As in, hitting redial 187 times between 8.00 and 8.24am until someone picks up.

The health service is truly fucked and I’m honestly scared of needing it in an emergency.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

His dad also just branded Tommy Robinson as the next Nelson Mandela that should lead the UK.

Tommy Robinson giving politicians and rapists a good necklacing when?

Musk has now achieved exactly the opposite of what he set out to do. He's gone way overboard posting nonsense that is easily disproved and he has managed to rile the eternally grey and bland Starmer into actually displaying some passion and fire.

Lol. Lmao even. This is bait right?

 

[Otterly]

The only thing worth buying is a good, traditional London Cheesecake and if love these then you're also elite.

I’ve never seen one of those. Maybe they don’t do them up here.

Whereas brown people who commit arson and rape and groom and traffic young girls for sex are given a couple of years, and out in half for "good behaviour".

I spent a fair amount of time over Christmas at gatherings hammering home the idea that people who DO bad things are getting let go and people who SAY ‘bad’ things are getting locked up and that this is what those banana republic countries do. A lot of ‘I hadn’t thought about it like that but you’re right…’

I'm not even sure what I would use A+E for.

Everything gets triaged through an and e which is a huge problem. We need much better GP services and far more, like x100 minor injuries units. Slip on the ice, maybe that wrist is broken and the patient is 75? Is that emergency, it’s probably not a GP job. It needs a quick X ray, and that’s the job of minor injuries. We have vanishingly few of them. We need a service where you can go and drop in, PAY 25 quid or whatever to keep the frequent flyers and paracetamol on prescription crowd away, and just get a sore throat swabbed, or a bumped wrist checked. Instead everything gets sent to emergency, which gets swamped from that end and blocked from the other by bed blocking and our creaking aged care system (which we could resolve with the kind of cottage hospital convalescence units that used to be everywhere.) it’s a mess

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Lmao Jess Philips. How she gets to play ‘I was surprised and unprepared people called me out on my bs’ every time she says something stupid is honestly a Talent.

 

[teriyakiburns]

We need a service where you can go and drop in, PAY 25 quid or whatever to keep the frequent flyers and paracetamol on prescription crowd away

I've heard this exact line from relatives who were all LUV ARE NHS a couple of years ago. It seems to be catching on.

 

[Otterly]

I've heard this exact line from relatives who were all LUV ARE NHS a couple of years ago. It seems to be catching on.

In some European countries this is where the private sector is used effectively. This kind of thing lends itself well to a private group doing it. We desperately need this extra layer of infrastructure. The majority of an and e visits arent life threatening; they’re minor falls, slips, etc. I’ve worked in a European country where this stuff, and stuff like mammograms, was done by a private group. It’s linked into the hospital system so if there is something that needs emergency you get sent there. It works really well. I think it was about 25 euro to get a visit

 

[f4t2h7gc]

Overhauling minor injury units and building dedicated diagnostic centers is a good idea. Sounds like a flywheel policy though, it might take a while for these to make any kind of dent in the current backlog. Worth a try.

Finding, training and retaining competent people is the elephant in the room. If staff aren't valued then why would they stay? They're moving to Australia or the US. Better weather and better pay.

But I guess you don't need 6 years of medical school to sign up 85 year old Mrs Oldbridge to the assisted dying program.

 

[Allo Vera]

I've heard this exact line from relatives who were all LUV ARE NHS a couple of years ago. It seems to be catching on.

It does make you wonder if running the NHS into the ground until the public are begging for at least semi-privatisation has been the plan all along.

It makes a change from the usual narrative that we can’t complain about shit care, widespread incompetence and total neglect because “it’s free tho “

 

[-Jack-]

Overhauling minor injury units and building dedicated diagnostic centers is a good idea. Sounds like a flywheel policy though, it might take a while for these to make any kind of dent in the current backlog. Worth a try.

Finding, training and retaining competent people is the elephant in the room. If staff aren't valued then why would they stay? They're moving to Australia or the US. Better weather and better pay.

But I guess you don't need 6 years of medical school to sign up 85 year old Mrs Oldbridge to the assisted dying program.

Don’t worry, the government will import them all from India.

 

[FedPostalService]

Lmao Jess Philips. How she gets to play ‘I was surprised and unprepared people called me out on my bs’ every time she says something stupid is honestly a Talent.

I love how she goes from “stronk woman who don‘t need to man” to “I’m a frightened lady who needs big strong men to protect me” when it suits her.

It does make you wonder if running the NHS into the ground until the public are begging for at least semi-privatisation has been the plan all along.

It makes a change from the usual narrative that we can’t complain about shit care, widespread incompetence and total neglect because “it’s free tho “

Whenever someone mentioned getting treated on the NHS they’d always so a weird speil about how great the doctors and staff were almost like a weird prayer. I’ve noticed that’s stopped.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I've heard this exact line from relatives who were all LUV ARE NHS a couple of years ago. It seems to be catching on.

And it will be abused to allow the blights on society to get to the front of the queue and everyone who's a functioning tax-payer will be told "you need to pay for the fast access."

 

[Otterly]

Finding, training and retaining competent people is the elephant in the room. If staff aren't valued then why would they stay?

Having spoken to staff at these places, they were all pretty happy working there. They were well run, and I assume less political than the Byzantine nightmare that is the nhs. The body preventing more uk doctors being trained is the BMA, who operate like a medieval guild.

It does make you wonder if running the NHS into the ground until the public are begging for at least semi-privatisation has been the plan all along.

Yes, I think it is. And we won’t do private involvement well either because we never do. Some European countries tried gave this very well delineate niche the private sector works in and it seems to work. We will just carve bits off and sell it and it’ll be a mess, like PPP building hospitals.

 

[the rat]

I gotta say, despire his geographical disability, I really do sympathize with Starmer. Having to deal with all these racist rightoids whinging about supposed "Pakistani Rape Gangs" when there's literally no evidence to support it is just as wild as Trump's whole "Haitians are eating cats in Ohio" senility.

Maybe one day the British will be able to hold themselves to some form of accountability instead of blaming all their problems on others.

Left this right that while children are being raped and every politician+journoscum enable and likely practice it alongside those mudslimes they so desperately protect.

I hope people like you fucking die.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

dedicated diagnostic centers

I went to an 'Urgent Care Centre' on one occasion after ringing 999 for something. The response was '4 hours for an ambulance or if you can drive to this not-quite-a-hospital you'll be seen immediately. This was on a Sunday morning at around 7am.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

We need a service where you can go and drop in, PAY 25 quid or whatever to keep the frequent flyers and paracetamol on prescription crowd away, and just get a sore throat swabbed, or a bumped wrist checked.

That’s by and large what GPs should be doing. They just aren’t. Instead of taking 5 second on the frequent flyers they are taking 10mins

Punishing people for the GPs not doing their job I do not think will help.

Set up the Local Pharmacy to come round with the repeat Meds or tell the person to contact over the phone.

There are a billion things the practices could be doing other than charging to solve the problem but they are lazy so don’t.

The fact that it took covid for them to go ‘hey, we could do a lot of stuff by phone and email, it would take no time’ is honestly shocking.

 

[FedPostalService]

That’s by and large what GPs should be doing. They just aren’t. Instead of taking 5 second on the frequent flyers they are taking 10mins

Holy shit. I needed a sick line when I was fucked with covid. They wouldn’t do it over the phone, which used to be normal.

They made me come in for an appointment, which I thought was retarded when they first asked as I was not only too ill to leave the house but contagious, only to find out the first appointment was three weeks later, which lead to three weeks of pestering from HR for my sick line.

I sat down, still fucked but able move and work, expecting a check up. Nope. I was out after a few minutes. I could have told her anything and I would have still got the sick line, it was a colossal waste of fucking time and could have been done on the phone and saved me a ton of stress but they had to do it in the most retarded way possible.