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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

I think I have the answer as to why.

Well, there is that, but I would have thought a neon hair would have just sent that to the butter knife licencing authority and not circulated it for people to laugh at.


Reform seriously needs to get a better grip on their people, I can very easily imagine them becoming a banned group with messages like that, official or just random supporters.

 

[Spud]

Reform seriously needs to get a better grip on their people, I can very easily imagine them becoming a banned group with messages like that, official or just random supporters.

Reform is just the tories and labour with a new coat of paint, them being banned would be funny.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

I mean, if you had a successful job yes?

You shouldn’t have to give up all of your money or become poor because you comitted a crime.

I’m rather sure that would fall under unusual punishment.

And if you did, the tax payer would be paying for them when they got out due to benefits.

You seem mad you didn’t have a job as good or made good investments.

In fairness, he was out their showing it off in public. He clearly did not care. And this would not count as bannable yet.

You should go to prison if you have committed a crime involving the sexual abuse of children. And fuck it, leave him destitute for all I care.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Why did they have to include his licence plate.

This is easily offensive speech in the UK and this dudes getting deported to a prison in Estonia.

We've just had someone get away with calling two of our Asian politicians coconuts, that sort of thing will be fine. The company that made the sign will no doubt get harassed despite the fact that they're just doing the work, not expressing the sentiment.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

I know pensioners who have been directly fucked by the most recent happenings who are still convinced that MPs retaining their heating allowance and their freinds losing their lump sums is a good thing, and that anyone who didn't vote Labour is a racist that needs to go to jail.

Controversial opinion here, I know, but literally why should I, as a young, cool, attractive person, give a single solitary shit about old people freezing over the winter when most of them are dumb as fuck and they're probably all going to snuff it soon anyway?

 

[Drihten]

Controversial opinion here, I know, but literally why should I, as a young, cool, attractive person, give a single solitary shit about old people freezing over the winter when most of them are dumb as fuck and they're probably all going to snuff it soon anyway?

Because it's Labour doing it, it makes for useful propaganda. Not only that, but context is important as well, that money saved from cutting the winter fuel payments will just go towards dumb shit like trying to send migrants to Albania (this is bad only because it doesn't work) or furthering their net zero plans, nothing beneficial will actually arise from it.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

Controversial opinion here, I know, but literally why should I, as a young, cool, attractive person, give a single solitary shit about old people freezing over the winter when most of them are dumb as fuck and they're probably all going to snuff it soon anyway?

Because the government has broken the pact made with them when they were single, young attractive people and has stolen the money they are rightfully entitled to in their long paid into pensions (which are not a benefit however Starmer might claim) and allowances; and will do exactly the same to you when you are old if you fail to tackle it now?

Then again, I am suggesting the British to not be buttfucked by their tyrannical overlords which is quite a big ask when they openly accept their youth being raped on an industrial scale.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The point of my post, you unmitigated spastic, was that the majority of Brits didn't bother voting

Yes, voter turnout collapsed after Blair fucked over the people who brought him to power and it has never really recovered. The thing is, these people don't bother voting because nobody represents them or stands for them. In a healthy political system, that disengagement would be taken as a sign that the people up top have seriously miscalculated, but instead they're all fighting for a share of an ever-shrinking minority of the population and claiming legitimacy from it. "Voter apathy" is a refusal to engage with people who hate them.

Aside from disengagement being missed as an important signal, it's also worth remembering that the share of voters each party has lost due to the decline in voters is roughly proportionate to their still-voting population (The Labour loss is probably slightly more than the Tories due to the lingering effects of Blair's betrayal of the workers). If Labour has 45% of the vote, for example, then approximately 45% of the non-voting population will be former labour voters. This makes non-voters functionally vote-neutral and only really starts to affect outcomes once the active voting population falls to a low-enough level that wards end up being decided by few hundred votes. This has happened from time to time, but overall it isn't an issue yet.

and the few who did make the effort voted Labour to get back at the Conservatives

Labours vote share was smaller than at the last election; they lost votes overall, but just happened to lose less than the Tories. The major shift was away from the Tories to parties other than Labour, with the largest portion going to the Liberal Democrats and Reform. The way constituency boundaries fall means that Reform, while they got almost as many votes as the Liberal Democrats, didn't gain seats. So again, Labour gained a majority, despite having fewer votes than at the last election, because voters switched to other parties. Voter apathy didn't affect the percentages nearly as much as people want to believe. Labour won because people voted for Reform in the wrong place.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Controversial opinion here, I know, but literally why should I, as a young, cool, attractive person, give a single solitary shit about old people freezing over the winter when most of them are dumb as fuck and they're probably all going to snuff it soon anyway?

Because Labour aren’t doing it to save money, they are doing it to be arseholes. They’ve already admitted putting all the people on benefits to get back their winter fuel bonus will cost more than if they’d just done nothing.

So if you don’t care about the old people you should care that the money is just being pissed away over bs.

And the same thing will happen to you when you retire. They will cause you pain and suffering just because they can.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Because Labour aren’t doing it to save money, they are doing it to be arseholes.

Exactly this. Labour has not been the party of the workers for two or more generations (certainly not since they booted Foot). They are the party of the metropolitan elite and feckless urbanite hedonists, who despise the working class for refusing to validate their valueless, meaningless lifestyle of consumption and indulgence (amongst other things) and hate the elderly for reminding them that their future is fixed and inexorably approaching. They hide their derision behind a superficial veneer of class consciousness and trendy vernacular, but the red banner they frantically wave can only conceal so much. Any of the working class who still vote for them do so because they're thoroughly indoctrinated and unable to accept or understand what the party has become.

 

[Otterly]

Voter apathy is a refusal to engage with people who hate them.

Withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apathy ….

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Controversial opinion here, I know, but literally why should I, as a young, cool, attractive person, give a single solitary shit about old people freezing over the winter when most of them are dumb as fuck and they're probably all going to snuff it soon anyway?

I take umbridge with it for a few reasons, I am not irrate but I know the issues it will cause.

• Shows how hypocritical Labour are, they ragged on Truss and May for cutting things for the elderly but a week in do something even worse.
• They complain constantly about money yet will not show the spending when a FOIA is filed but in the same vein will pour 10's of billions into migrants that do nothing and if they do work illegally.
• They are doing it to purposefully kill voters because they were former and/or Tory voters.
• Starmer last week harped on about the NHS needing reform but will inact a policy that will create a surge in AandE and beds being used. Creating more of a wait but also a higher cost.
• He is probably doing it too, to empty houses so jeets can move in and continue to infect small towns.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apathy ….

It was meant to be in quotes.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

why should I, as a young, cool, attractive person, give a single solitary shit about old people freezing over the winter

Because you too, will be old one day.

First they came for the chavs, and I said nothing, because I wasn't one.
Then they came for the pensions, and I said nothing, because I didn't need one
Then they came for the biddies, and there was no-one to speak out, because we had sold out our future.

 

[Welsh Catgirl Enjoyer]

Controversial opinion here, I know, but literally why should I, as a young, cool, attractive person, give a single solitary shit about old people freezing over the winter when most of them are dumb as fuck and they're probably all going to snuff it soon anyway?

Who do you think are getting the homes after the pensioners kick the bucket? Where do you think their pensions that they don't need anymore are being sent?

If you think of letting pensioners die as a form of resource acquisition and reallocation, then you can probably see why it's a problem.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Speaking of killing pensioners for fun and profit looks like the unions are not in favour of it. Almost like those of them that don't have family affected by it know they themselves might have wanted it soon. Purely performative, leadership will support Labour no matter what, but it's amusing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdd4ejq32pdo

Unions have won a non-binding vote at the Labour Party conference calling on the government to reverse its cuts to winter fuel payments.
In an impassioned speech to Labour activists, Unite general secretary Sharon Graham said she "did not understand" how the new Labour government could target pensioners while leaving "the super-rich untouched".
"This is not what people voted for. It's the wrong decision and it needs to be reversed," she told the hall.
Addressing the subject in his conference speech on Tuesday, Prime Minister Keir Starmer said he understood people's concerns but that he did not want to "risk" the public finances.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77x8medmgzo
He added that "stabilising" the economy was "the only way we keep prices low, cut NHS waiting lists and secure the triple lock so that every pensioner in this country will be better off with Labour".
Although the vote will not force a change in position, the defeat for Labour’s leadership on one of the first controversial decisions they have made in government underlines the unease in the party over this issue.
The vote had originally been expected on Monday and threatened to overshadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves' speech.
However, in a move the Unite union labelled an "outrage" the vote was shifted to the last day of the conference, when many delegates had left the conference.
On Wednesday morning, campaigners staged a protest in the conference exhibition hall with supporters of Unite's motion chanting “save the winter fuel”.
Addressing the conference hall, Graham said the Labour government of 1945, which came to the power at a time of high public debt, had not talked about cuts or austerity but acted to make "lasting change" and "built an NHS on the back of a crisis".
She contrasted that with the current government saying: "People simply do not understand, I do not understand, how our new Labour government can cut the winter fuel allowance for pensioners and leave the super-rich untouched."
One Labour member Maggie Cosin argued against the motion saying she did not need the payment and the money could be better spent elsewhere.
"Every single year, £200 comes into my bank account and every year I go and buy stuff for the food bank with it," she told the conference.
The motion, which was passed by a show of hands, also called for a wealth tax and an end to the government's self-imposed rules which prevent the government from borrowing money to invest.
Speaking after the vote, Graham told the BBC it reflected the feeling "in the real world".
She said Rachel Reeves should now "U-turn" adding: "Leadership is also about acknowledging when you've made a mis-step."
About 10 million pensioners are expected to lose their payment this winter, but supporters of means-testing say the payment is not needed by many.
Responding to the vote, Health Secretary Wes Streeting told the BBC's Politics Live programme the government “don’t have the luxury of ducking the difficult choices and decisions".
"I’m not sure we were ever going to persuade Sharon," he added.
The motion to reverse the decision was put forward by Unite, one of the country's biggest unions, and seconded by the Communication Workers Union (CWU), which represents postal workers and the banking sector, among others.
Earlier in the day, Streeting delivered his speech to the conference and reiterated his previous claim that the NHS was "broken" and "letting people down".
Some senior sources in the health service have told the BBC his comments could lead to patients putting off getting help and risked damaging staff morale.
However, Streeting stuck by his stance telling the conference: "I know the doctor's diagnosis can sometimes be hard to hear but if you don't have an accurate diagnosis, you won't provide the correct prescription.
"So I say respectfully but unequivocally: I won’t back down. The NHS is broken, but it’s not beaten and together we will turn it around."
Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson and Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall also spoke, with Phillipson promising to increase the number of nursery places available.
The conference closed with delegates singing The Red Flag and Jerusalem.

I'm on the fence. It's a relatively new benefit, I do agree with means testing. But conversely Kier and co. were the ones screaming last winter that the energy prices were tantamount to the Tories personally murdering every single pensioner in the country. So they can eat every last mouthful of this shit sandwich.

 

[EddyRooney]

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Good to see the early release scheme in action

Oh and for reference -

Original offence ?

"Criminals serving prison sentences of less than four years for violent offences, including manslaughter, are among those eligible to be freed under the scheme.
Officials had previously said that some of those released were likely to reoffend.
Earlier this month, Martin Jones, HM chief inspector of probation, said: "There is also, I think, a certainty that some will reoffend.
He added that the risk of serious offences was rare but a risk that could not be eliminated."

I could fill the whole fucking screen with them.

It gets better ( and by that I mean much, much worse ).....

Why is the Benny Hill theme song playing in my head as I read this ?

 

[teriyakiburns]

It gets better ( and by that I mean much, much worse ).....

Why is the Benny Hill theme song playing in my head as I read this ?

Five of those who were mistakenly released have still not been located

Still wanted by the government, the survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if nobody else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The Rape Team

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

It gets better ( and by that I mean much, much worse ).....

Of the 32 back in custody one of them is this fellow who immediately committed another crime and there's another I linked to a page or two back who also committed a crime within less than a day.

What % are we betting on having reoffended when the truth finally comes out?

 

[FedPostalService]

Speaking of killing pensioners for fun and profit looks like the unions are not in favour of it. Almost like those of them that don't have family affected by it know they themselves might have wanted it soon. Purely performative, leadership will support Labour no matter what, but it's amusing.

The unions are still supporting and funding Labour, so they don’t care that much.

Now I’m off the naughty step I’m happy to remind people that the unions stopped caring about the workers decades ago and are now just another faction of the WEF.

If you pay union dues you’re absolute neighbour cattle and I hope you enjoy being replaced.