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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Broadside said:
Yeah didn't think so
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Based on the share of votes, reform would be the third largest party in parliament and labour would barely have a majority. They only got five seats because of how the votes are distributed across wards. This has been explained multiple times in this very thread, but mutts keep shoving those 56% faces in to cry about things they don't understand.

You can think whatever you like, but that just makes you a low-info retard who has no idea what you're talking about.
 
teriyakiburns said:
Based on the share of votes, reform would be the third largest party in parliament and labour would barely have a majority. They only got five seats because of how the votes are distributed across wards. This has been explained multiple times in this very thread, but mutts keep shoving those 56% faces in to cry about things they don't understand.

You can think whatever you like, but that just makes you a low-info retard who has no idea what you're talking about.
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There was a whole paragraph besides just mentioning Reform. I'm aware of how retarded the UK voting system is and just happens to always favour the liberal parties each eelction.

My contention was your broad "that's dumb" when he made adequate points- nearly 50% of people in the UK didn't vote this election, so I feel the poster 100% has the right to point out what a joke Brits are for their inaction.
 
Broadside said:
My contention was your broad "that's dumb" when he made adequate points- nearly 50% of people in the UK didn't vote this election, so I feel the poster 100% has the right to point out what a joke Brits are for their inaction
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Voting malaise is a disease for sure. I can't really blame them, their choices were between a twat and a cunt. If everyone voted, that might have changed, but that's the case in every western nation right now. Paralysis of the people in the face of their shit government.
 
Chunky Salsa said:
Voting malaise is a disease for sure. I can't really blame them, their choices were between a twat and a cunt. If everyone voted, that might have changed, but that's the case in every western nation right now. Paralysis of the people in the face of their shit government.
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It's unlikely to have made much of a difference in any case. Labour's vote total fell roughly in proportion to the general reduction in voters, so if more people had voted, it's very likely labour would have retained their position, give or take a few seats. The big difference, the reason why labour won such a majority, was tory voters switching to other parties out of disgust at the tories, rather than people not voting in general. Labour got such a huge majority because of how the constituency boundaries are drawn to favour the big two (with the lib dems getting pulled along for the ride), which ended up dividing large reform-voting populations across several constituencies*, and because of how the vote was split between the tories and the minor parties (primarmily reform) in so many places. Labour's majorities are razor thin in much of the country, on the order of just a few hundred to a couple of thousand votes.

*Which is why my pre-election guesses went so wildly wrong, for what it's worth. I assumed reform votes proportionally reflect the number of tory voters in a constituency and give them more majorities, but too many of their major voter concentrations fell within traditional labour heartlands (a lot of the red wall flipped back to labour because of this effect) and across constituency boundaries, denying them a majority in any one place.
 
teriyakiburns said:
The big difference, the reason why labour won such a majority, was tory voters switching to other parties out of disgust at the tories, rather than people not voting in general.
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Been said before but it’s worth stating again for observers from forrin places - almost every British election where the party in charge changes is about voting the people in power out rather than actively voting the opposition in .
 
SirCliveSinclairdabbing said:
You could ask the same about the referendum party but (eventually) we got brexit.
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We only got brexit because Cameron / the establishment thought it was a sure thing and everyone would vote remain. Nigel himself doesn't want to be elected he wants to grift off of not being pm, like George Galloway on the other side. If he got elected he'd shit himself and then do the minimum to see his term out. Anything negative you think about Galloway you should equally think about Farage.
 
Tragon Dirtle said:
We only got brexit because Cameron / the establishment thought it was a sure thing and everyone would vote remain. Nigel himself doesn't want to be elected he wants to grift off of not being pm, like George Galloway on the other side. If he got elected he'd shit himself and then do the minimum to see his term out. Anything negative you think about Galloway you should equally think about Farage.
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Don't tell me how to think. Prove your own position instead.
 
Huw Edwards grabbed himself a six month suspended sentence. (archive eventually)

They've clarified that his "creating" of CP was by downloading rather than taking the pictures himself, so I suppose that means he's just a passive nonce, which is ok in the eyes of the judge.

Six months suspended for grooming a teenager into posing for dirty snaps. At least he didn't say anything mean about a muslim while he was doing it. That would have been criminal.
 
teriyakiburns said:
Huw Edwards grabbed himself a six month suspended sentence. (archive eventually)

They've clarified that his "creating" of CP was by downloading rather than taking the pictures himself, so I suppose that means he's just a passive nonce, which is ok in the eyes of the judge.

Six months suspended for grooming a teenager into posing for dirty snaps. At least he didn't say anything mean about a muslim while he was doing it. That would have been criminal.
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I took a readthrough the live updates during my lunch break and the longest he would have gotten is 12 months since it wasn't sent to a crown court. To say he got off lightly with 41 pictures would be the understatement of the god damned century.
 
Shit like this is why I now view myself as an accelerationist now with regards to the state of the country.

I genuinely think the only thing we can do now is let shit get worse until eventually the entire country collapses, and then hope that whatever comes afterwards when the political and cultural systems fall through is better than what we have now. It's a big fucking gamble and there's every chance that what comes after would be the Islamic Caliphate of Britain, but the alternative is a painstaking process of decades of things being just barely not shit enough to collapse the system.
 
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Shit like this is why I now view myself as an accelerationist now with regards to the state of the country.

I genuinely think the only thing we can do now is let shit get worse until eventually the entire country collapses, and then hope that whatever comes afterwards when the political and cultural systems fall through is better than what we have now. It's a big fucking gamble and there's every chance that what comes after would be the Islamic Caliphate of Britain, but the alternative is a painstaking process of decades of things being just barely not shit enough to collapse the system.
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Remember to encourage leftists to not have babies for Climate Change™!
Only good thing coming out of his shitshow atm, but besides that yeah- acceleration is the only way now. They refused and refused to get out of the bed filled with venomous snakes so how else are normies going to learn?
 
teriyakiburns said:
Huw Edwards grabbed himself a six month suspended sentence. (archive eventually)

They've clarified that his "creating" of CP was by downloading rather than taking the pictures himself, so I suppose that means he's just a passive nonce, which is ok in the eyes of the judge.

Six months suspended for grooming a teenager into posing for dirty snaps. At least he didn't say anything mean about a muslim while he was doing it. That would have been criminal.
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Apparently you get a harsher sentence for yelling at a police dog then you do for being an actual pedophile and grooming a teenager.

If there are moments when you lose all faith in the British law and judicial system then it is ones like this. The BBC has had case after case of harbouring nonces, knowingly and they do nothing about them and the few times they do get caught then it always seems to be the lightest of light sentences.

I do my part in the protection of children by refusing to pay my TV tax so that my money doesn't go any where near this cabal of kiddy diddlers.
 
FedPostalService said:
Business rates fuck over a lot of starter small businesses. It’s part of the reason why the high street of every small town is just charity shops, pawns shops, and money laundering “vape” shops. Even the bookies closing down.
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In theory it shouldn't. Small business rate relief is 100% as long as the rateable value is under 12k (with tapered discount above that). The challenges come when you take on a second place and lose the discount unless you know exactly how to game the system, or when the rateable value rises above the threshold.

The reason for all the charity shops is that the landlord gets exemption for any bills in their name if they only let to charities. The discount for charities is 80% so hardly any different from normal retailers at 75%.

In my admittedly limited experience usually people get into trouble because they just don't plan to pay their rates, don't register for it and then get a huge bill after trading for a year or more, or just straight up have no idea it exists. It might be an unjust tax but if it's not researched as part of your business plan you're a fool.
 
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