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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Gyppos, pakis and nogs, oh my! It truly warms the heart to see such a diverse selection of doctors and engineers coming together to..... smash police cars, burn buses and generally turn the areas they have infected into even bigger shit holes?
 
Gyppos, pakis and nogs, oh my! It truly warms the heart to see such a diverse selection of doctors and engineers coming together to..... smash police cars, burn buses and generally turn the areas they have infected into even bigger shit holes?
I hope everyone who voted Labour gets what they fucking deserve.
 
Gyppos, pakis and nogs, oh my! It truly warms the heart to see such a diverse selection of doctors and engineers coming together to..... smash police cars, burn buses and generally turn the areas they have infected into even bigger shit holes?
You're not wrong. The demographics for the area are
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It is the 2nd most deprived area in Leeds and has the worst educational outcomes in Leeds and they can't blame socio-economic factors like usual since the 1st and 3rd most deprived areas beat it quite easily.

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Apparently sparked by social services trying to take some abused gypsy children into care. Thanks for the last 14 years of importing these animals, Conservative Party, very cool.
 
It's Leeds, Labour majority since 2011.

Even before then they were the largest individual party most years, believe there was a brief spate of Lib Dem with Tory support rule.
I know what and where Leeds is. I know how British politics work. I know how to look up who has held a seat.

Richard Burgon, fucking lol.
 
Reminder that the Soviet Union, then Russia, have been signed up to the ECHR since its creation and have treated all their rulings with the respect they deserve.

I point this out as someone who hates commies and modern day Russia.
Yes, but Russia aren't exactly part of the co-operating block of Western Elites. I think our leaders are far more concerned about being kicked out of the fruity little club we belong to.
All of this "we're going after the gangs" is a massive smoke screen. So they close down a few gangs. They don't think new ones will spring up to take their place ? It's like saying "oh, we're going to tackle the war on drugs by shutting down the cartels". Shut down one cartel, another one springs up to replace it. All the time there is huge money to be made in organised crime, there will always be people willing to take the risk of imprisonment vesus the possibility of massive wealth. I'd argue it's a better tactic to make the criminal enterprise unprofitable.
 
The kings Speech

Just to be clear about 'Martyns Law' which is supposedly in response to the Manchester arena bombing in 2017 #dontlookbackinanger.

This is Labour signalling to the Police that they're 'on side' and so long as they don't go after 'protected' groups and don't keep leaking to the media and sabotaging policy like they did under the tories everything will be cool.

This is the Policewoman who was on duty during the bombing, she took a two hour lunch break during which Abedi entered the arena. She has (police favourite) 'No Memory' of members of the public approaching her warning her about them, or telling them to fuck off and stop bothering her.

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She's holding a medal the transport police gave her , even after they had found out what she had done. Most likely because they didn't know there was going to be an actual inquiry that they couldn't knobble.

Even though the police had multiple opportunities to stop the bombing, they're being rewarded for their incompetance with a bill, that forces venues to essentially fund the police presence give them all the 'facilities' the lads want (no need for a two hour lunch break to grab a kebab from the other side of the city) . Essentially exactly what happened after they fucked up at Hillsborough.

Also here's PC Bullough after the inquiry started to question her bullshit story. She's since been give a 'final written warning' so if another 21 kids die at an event she's supposed to be policing she could be fired (in the next 3 years)

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turn the areas they have infected into even bigger shit holes?
Bigger shit holes? It couldn't be a bigger shit hole if it was a 1mile square hole with shit in it.


Thanks for the last 14 years of importing these animals, Conservative Party, very cool.
Read my post, mush. Harehills has been wog capital of yorkshire since the 80s. Pakis started moving in around 20 years ago.



Fun fact: Harehills and chapeltown used to be two seperate towns, they're now all classed as Harehills because the crime rate was so high that they needed to 'halve' it by doubling the size of Harehills.
 
Probably. But why, when they have come DIRECTLY from France, do they have to be assessed in the UK? Should they have been assessed in France (or the "free" countries they came through)?
They crossed the channel on a boat to claim asylum that they should have claimed before climbing in the rubber boat, fuck them straight back. They can bleat to their lawyers about ECHR in the first country they came to.
As I understand it, they're not claiming asylum in France, so it's not up to France to do anything with them. As there is no border control coming into France from whichever other European country they passed through, I think the French view them as an inconvenience, but not a permanent problem as they are passing through. In effect, it benefits the French to get them to England.
You have to remember whose side the Human Rights Lawyers are on ( clue - it's not ours ! ) - they get to claim all sorts of wonderful fees from the state to defend the asylum claimers and further their agenda. The whole of this system is rigged in favour of the status quo. The main problem is the ECHR is stuck in time - when it was introduced post WW2, the world was a much different place and mass immigration by people of a completely different culture wasn't really considered a possibility, certainly not as economic migrants.

Playing whack-a-mole is making the enterprise unprofitable.
then why isn't it working ? Why is the number coming in increasing ? Do you think this tactic will have an effect long term ? :optimistic:
I just think one gang gets shut down, another springs up to fill the vacuum.
 
then why isn't it working ? Why is the number coming in increasing ? Do you think this tactic will have an effect long term ? :optimistic:
I just think one gang gets shut down, another springs up to fill the vacuum.
I didn't say it was necessarily effective - just that if you increase the risk of getting caught you make the whole thing less attractive.
If they were really clever they'd deliberately spread rumours in Albanian or whatever that we do unspeakable things to anybody we catch. It worked in the Falklands - they shat themselves whenever the Gurkhas appeared, because we let them believe that they were bloodthirsty cannibals.
 
Now the Bangadeshi's are rioting in Whitechapel, East London. Not about the trouble in Harehills, but over an incident that took place in Bangladesh.

I'm glad I left the shithole.
 
Now the Bangadeshi's are rioting in Whitechapel, East London. Not about the trouble in Harehills, but over an incident that took place in Bangladesh.

I'm glad I left the shithole.
I hope a few more places kick off so i can text my Labour cattle friends in the morning.
 
While protestors getting longer sentences than actual violent criminals is a bad thing, seeing those Just Stop Oil benders get banged up for 4-5 years amuses me greatly.

Guess the useful idiots need to be swept away now Labour won the election
 
Probably. But why, when they have come DIRECTLY from France, do they have to be assessed in the UK? Should they have been assessed in France (or the "free" countries they came through)?
They crossed the channel on a boat to claim asylum that they should have claimed before climbing in the rubber boat, fuck them straight back. They can bleat to their lawyers about ECHR in the first country they came to.
This is a pretty widespread misconception, which probably is so widespread because it used to be the rule. (But more on that later!) With apologies to Colin Yeo, herein lies the difficulty.

There is no obligation in the Refugee Convention, either explicit or implicit, to claim asylum in the first safe country reached by a refugee.

The UN Refugee Convention actually gives refugees a degree of choice as to where they seek asylum, in fact.
Article 31 of the Convention protects refugees against prosecution for illegal entry to a receiving country in certain circumstances:
The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
This is not a right of entry. But it is protection against penalisation if the person does manage to evade the border guards and enter a country anyway. Remember the hostile environment and Sue Ellen frothing at the mouth about all the terribad things she would do to 'illegal migrants' but actually she did fuck all? She knew she was going to do fuck all, and she knew the above Article was exactly why.

The 'problem' is fuck all to do with the ECHR or Strasbourg in reality. The issue comes from within the wording of the Convention itself.

"But," you cry, "does that mean that a refugee can leave a country on the other side of the world, make no effort to claim asylum until they reach Shitthole-upon-Thames, and then claim asylum because they just fancy Shitthole-upon-Thames more than say, Lille?"
Yes. That is the exact correct reading of international law on this matter.

"b-b-but muh first safe country rule!! Where did that go???" Easy. The abolition of the 'first safe country rule' was one of the numerous benefits of Brexit. That went up in a blue light along with our EU membership. You see, that rule isn't found anywhere in the Convention, or any other bit of international refugee law.

Where it still is found, though, is in an agreement between EU members called the Dublin Convention. This is now incorporated into EU law, which as any fule kno, the UK is no longer a party to.

Back in the 1990s the EU set about creating the Common European Asylum System in order to standardise asylum law and process across the whole of the EU and thereby reduce incentives for asylum seekers to travel within the EU. If they would be treated broadly the same everywhere, the reasoning went, they would not seek to move between EU countries.

The development of the system was largely driven by the UK in order to rationalise the Dublin Convention, originally agreed outside the auspices of the EU in 1995. Latterly referred to as the Dublin system or the Dublin Regulation, it is now a piece of EU law. Where an asylum seeker has been fingerprinted in an EU Member State but then moves on to another EU Member State, under the Dublin system the asylum seeker can be sent back to the first country to have the asylum claim processed there.

For example, if an asylum seeker reaches Italy, is fingerprinted then travels to the UK and claims asylum, pretty much the first thing the Home Office used to do is take fingerprints, check them against the central Eurodac fingerprint database and then if a match is found, notify the other country and send the asylum seeker back there pronto.

There is no legal duty or obligation on the asylum seeker to claim and remain in the first safe country and an asylum seeker who moves on is not breaking the law by doing so, or disqualifying themselves from refugee status. But as a matter of administration, one EU country can send the asylum seeker back to another EU country under this system.

There used to be over a thousand of these “Dublin removals” every year from the United Kingdom, although the number fell over time and was eventually exceeded by transfers in by children to join families here. There was however a very substantial chilling effect that encouraged a lot of people to just cool their heels in Hamburg and Napoli rather than trying to get to Kent and get bounced anyway. There is now absolutely no reason to not try your luck and try to enter the UK.

An inevitable consequence of the type of Brexit pursued by the UK government was that the UK left the Common European Asylum System and the Dublin Regulation. In short, removals to safe European countries were rendered impossible by Brexit.

Since Brexit, the UK government has tried to implement a system whereby those people who have passed through a third country can be excluded from the asylum system in certain circumstances. However the absence of anywhere to send people whose claims are deemed “inadmissible” has instead brought the asylum system to a grinding halt. (And hence, the absolute brain tumour of the 'Rwanda plan' - buy the right for these people to stay in another third country.)

"HOW CAN WE NO PUT THEM BACK IN CALAIS" inquires average Question Time panellist. The answer is simple: turning up on the territory of another sovereign nation, unloading individuals and running away - for this seems to be the proposal - is, in terms of international law and comity, very much the same as turning up and unloading some soldiers there for a bit of rape 'n' pillage. And is likely to meet with the same response.

We cannot just send refugees to France because the French government would not accept them. One country cannot simply send a person to another country without the receiving country’s permission. Other countries don’t do it to us and we don’t do it to them. It’s pretty basic.

Imagine, how would it work? If just placed on a boat, plane, train or automobile, the receiving officials would refuse to let the person disembark or would just send them straight back to the UK. The UK would then face the same problem. Ferry terminals and airports would quickly start to fill with people caught in bureaucratic limbo. We would be as popular as a case of monkeypox on Grindr with our fellow sovereign nations. The smarter ones would very quickly ban flights and ships coming from the UK as they would know we were planning to dump a bushel of chinky dinks and run away.

UK border officials could physically take a person to the other country, perhaps, and then hand them over. But what happens when the receiving officials say “va te faire foutre”? Do the UK officials just leave with the gypsy in hot pursuit?

Intercepting dinghies in the Channel and then towing them to France likewise is also impossible, at least without endangering life. Actively firing on small boats with the intention to sink them and kill the occupants is the sort of thing the Americans get all invade-y about if they think you have any oil. We would definitely have to sit in the super naughty corner with Israel and Russia for that. Landing the occupants of the dinghies in France without French permission would be tantamount to an actual rather than imagined invasion. The French would certainly fire on any British ships attempting to do so.
 
Count down until they find a way to blame whitey for the lawless savages acting as expected for third world imports.

Get used to these events, they're only going to get more common and with the police being told to stand off look forwards to your shit getting fucked up with no help to prevent it by the people who we supposedly empower to prevent it.

Reminder that riot is expressly disclaimed in every insurance policy. Technically speaking a riot should be compensated by the police under the riot compensation act

The Riot Compensation Act (RCA) gives victims of criminal damage or loss during a riot the right to compensation. It is designed to allow communities to recover quickly from the impact of rioting.

If your property is not adequately insured you can claim compensation under the RCA from the local police claims authority.

In order to qualify for compensation victims must demonstrate that the damage or loss they have suffered was as a result of a riot.

With the important bit bolded. It's on you to show it was the result of a riot which is not a simple thing to show.

Where 12 or more persons who are present together use or threaten unlawful violence for a common purpose and the conduct of them (taken together) is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety, each of the persons using unlawful violence for the common purpose is guilty of riot


In the London 2011 riot after some drug dealing scum ate a police bullet it was obvious it was a riot right? Well it took until 2016 for it to be decided for compensation purposes if it was a riot or not, and went all the way to the supreme court.

Imagine your house and car get torched and it takes 5 years for the insurance to finish fighting with the police in court before someone pays out. Oh and shit like lost wages/business ain't covered by the act even if it was a riot so sorry if your business goes up in smoke too...
 
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