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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Balr0g said:
The Britsh voting lawa seem to be really strange. I read that Farage's party actually got 15% of the votes but thanks to the laws only got a handful of seats. Can a Island Kiwi perhaps elaborate on that?
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We work on areas.

It doesn’t matter how many votes you get in total, the party that gets seats in the most areas wins.

London will have more Labour votes than Reform so they’ll win London. But all those extra Reform votes will go to increase Reforms overall vote percentage.

Vote percentage is like the popular vote in the US, meaningless technically but an indicator of how the people as a whole are feeling.
 
I have two years left but lets just say I'll be hitting the ground running. I have been urging for a semi privatisation of health (my career field) in order to give speed but also introduce capital. For example in places like Malta you give 50 euros and see a GP/doctor pretty much immediately but it means the intake of your patients need services and not just a referral for painkillers. The power pharmacies have to give medication for certain things like allergies etc is actually a really good think Sunak introduced. I cannot express as a practitioner how many patients just come in for mundane shit that the pharmacies can hand over. A and E is full of it.

Tax needs to be addressed, 20% of my salary being eviscerated without doing anything is ridiculous and honestly I think all civil field employees should get a break as the pension is awful.

Starmer is going to be surrounded by a group of delusional misfits who for the first time in their lives have the scent of power. The Chancellor Rachel Reeves seems insane as is Raynor.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
We work on areas.

It doesn’t matter how many votes you get in total, the party that gets seats in the most areas wins.

London will have more Labour votes than Reform so they’ll win London. But all those extra Reform votes will go to increase Reforms overall vote percentage.

Vote percentage is like the popular vote in the US, meaningless technically but an indicator of how the people as a whole are feeling.
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I can see a future where it’s London/Manchester/Liverpool vs the rest of England.

The North has already shown (with the exception of Liverpool and Manchester) that they can vote Tory if pissed off enough.
 
Terfing said:
Jess Phillips (Labour) won by 693 votes and was booed and heckled by people yelling about Palestine as she tried to give her speech. Apparently it has been a really nasty campaign.
The runner up was Jody McIntyre of the Workers' Party. I assumed Jody was another lefty woman. No. This is Jody.

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Workers Party is George Galloway Islam grift party, he funnily lost his seat.

Labour lost a few seats because dumb Muslims think Labour have the power to stop the war in Gaza and voted purely on that, rather than any issues that impact the UK. If they were in America where they gave billions a year to Israel, they would have a point, but UK does no such thing. But really showed the failure of integration of Muslims.

What is funny is Labour even said they will recognised State of Palestine, and review weapon sales to Israel, to make sure only weapons sold are purely for defence reasons aka shooting down drone attacks. Yet will never been go enough.

Should be a wake up call for Labour that most Muslims aren't compatible with the UK, but doubt it will be.
 
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Last name on the list, though, as a crossbencher:
Dr Hilary Cass OBE FRCN FRCGP - Former president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health.
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They’re making her a peer? Well that’s made my week.
Balr0g said:
The Britsh voting lawa seem to be really strange. I read that Farage's party actually got 15% of the votes but thanks to the laws only got a handful of seats. Can an Island Kiwi perhaps elaborate on that?
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So we have a first past the post system and vote for MPs based on our constituency. You send an MP to parliament for your area. Becasue of the boundaries of those constituencies you can end up with bizzare results like this. The Lib Dem’s got over 70 seats, and got half a million FEWER votes than reform, who got four (?)
The system we have entrenched the big parties in power and stops smaller parties getting any seats at all. There’s a big push for proportional representation every few years but then we’d have no local MPs and if you have a good local MP they can be active in your area so there’s also a big push to keep it the same.
My area stayed labour, which was unsurprising. The SNP got wiped out, which is fantastic, and Labour took most of Scotland, which is very depressing. Open borders and trans insanity incoming. Not that the SNP were any better, but I look forward to being dragged to the gulag for hate speech at some point for pointing out that humans can’t actually change sex.
So pleased Cass got a peerage. Heheheh
 
Scotland is REALLY over represented in parliament, mainly because Labour didn’t picture themselves collapsing and that the peasants who vote for them without thinking would switch their support to the SNP for a few elections
 
My favourite part of yesterday was Liz Truss holding up the results by hiding in the toilets, apparently having an accident because she changed her trousers and then refusing to give a speech, with the room giving her slow claps as she mounted the stage.
Balr0g said:
The Britsh voting lawa seem to be really strange. I read that Farage's party actually got 15% of the votes but thanks to the laws only got a handful of seats. Can a Island Kiwi perhaps elaborate on that?
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Here we go, made a little diagram for a fictional town called Kiwithorpe. It's split into 5 constituencies of 70,000. 30% of people living in Kiwithorpe voted for Reform this election, so you'd expect they'd get 1-2 seats while only 10% of people living in Kiwithorpe voted Tory (so you'd assume they'd get no seats).
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Extrapolate Kiwithorpe to the whole country.

Each constituency is voting for a member of Parliament to represent them. Most people don't vote this way and vote for who they want to run the country, but as a technical rule your vote doesn't do this - it's just about picking someone to go to Parliament to represent you. The MPs in the biggest faction can form a government if they've got a majority, with the leader of that faction being the person who can "command the confidence of the House" (i.e. is the person who can lead a government) and becomes Prime Minister.

So with First Past The Post voting, the person with the most votes becomes the elected representative of that constituency. Reform came second place in a lot of constituencies, but only came first in Clacton, Boston & Skegness, Great Yarmouth and Ashfield. If you don't come first in a constituency, you don't get a consolation prize - there's no MP and deputy MP for Islington North, just the person with the most votes getting the role of MP. Concentrating your vote is far more useful than just having widespread diffuse support, which is how the Greens have managed to get the same number of seats as Reform with half the votes. The perceived unfairness of the system is well established and we did have a referendum about potentially introducing an alternative voting system but it was quashed by the Conservatives launching a campaign arguing that we should be building more maternity wards instead of trying to do electoral reform.
 
@AssignedEva This explanation is brilliant and I am sorry more people will miss it, hidden away down in this thread. Any chance you might crosspost it into the election coverage thread?
 
FedPostalService said:
Scotland is REALLY over represented in parliament
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This isn't the case anymore - they fixed this in 2005 or 2010. The Jocks got more seats per capita as a consolation prize for the Act of Union, but this was reversed after devolution.

AssignedEva said:
we did have a referendum about potentially introducing an alternative voting system but it was quashed by the Conservatives launching a campaign arguing that we should be building more maternity wards instead of trying to do electoral reform.
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It was quashed by the pro-AV side being shit. Very few people thought that AV was an improvement on FPTP.
 
The most retarded thing about Labour is that the two major groups who Labour are complete opposites of each other on social issues.

The first type are the basic bitch self hating white leftists. Typically over educated and middle class, these faggots make up the loudest voices on the Internet. The second is the low IQ peasants that make up much of the former manufacturing hubs of the UK. Poorly educated and racist, they are socially speaking somewhere on the right of Hitler.

Labour has to somehow manage walking a tight rope of making both equally groups unhappy but not too unhappy to lose another election. You can expect a lot of poor decisions in the next few years but if it's any consolation, it's nothing the Conservatives wouldn't have done too. I can't wait to remind all the plebs complaining about how many street shitting, machete wielding, child rapist immigrants are flooding the UK that they voted for this.
 
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